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(CNBC)   New study says intermittent fasting doesn't help you lose weight, it just makes you grumpy, THEN hungry   (cnbc.com) divider line
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2020-09-29 8:52:22 AM  
required reading for every married woman out there, this should be
 
2020-09-29 9:29:00 AM  
I intermittently fast between the food I eat between meals.
 
2020-09-29 9:35:40 AM  
I don't really ever get hangry. It annoys my wife to no end when the most she gets out of me is "I could eat."

/still a fat kid
 
2020-09-29 9:45:06 AM  
I'll make a point on this. Based on this study, you can't say the diet makes a difference. You also can't say that it doesn't make a difference. The sample size may have not been enough to notice.

The results show the people on the diet lost 33% more than those not of the diet. If you do a bigger study and get the same results, that would be something. But you can't know unless you do more research.
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2020-09-29 9:47:37 AM  
Every diet has people lose some weight because every diet requires a person to track what they're eating and to eat with purpose.

Miraculously, when they stop the diet they gain back the weight.

Your diet could be a tootsie roll diet and you'd still lose weight if you had fewer calories in than calories out.
 
2020-09-29 9:51:42 AM  

RussianPotato: Every diet has people lose some weight because every diet requires a person to track what they're eating and to eat with purpose.

Miraculously, when they stop the diet they gain back the weight.

Your diet could be a tootsie roll diet and you'd still lose weight if you had fewer calories in than calories out.



The Hawthorne Effect applies to lots of things besides assembly lines.
 
2020-09-29 9:53:02 AM  

RussianPotato: Every diet has people lose some weight because every diet requires a person to track what they're eating and to eat with purpose.

Miraculously, when they stop the diet they gain back the weight.

Your diet could be a tootsie roll diet and you'd still lose weight if you had fewer calories in than calories out.


True, problem is whether a diet of all tootsie rolls would sate you before you run over your calorie budget for the day, and it probably wouldn't do your blood sugar or micronutrient levels much good. Healthy diets have a lot of vegetables because they fill you up and supply necessary nutrients without adding much to the calorie count.
 
2020-09-29 9:54:08 AM  

pdieten: RussianPotato: Every diet has people lose some weight because every diet requires a person to track what they're eating and to eat with purpose.

Miraculously, when they stop the diet they gain back the weight.

Your diet could be a tootsie roll diet and you'd still lose weight if you had fewer calories in than calories out.

True, problem is whether a diet of all tootsie rolls would sate you before you run over your calorie budget for the day, and it probably wouldn't do your blood sugar or micronutrient levels much good. Healthy diets have a lot of vegetables because they fill you up and supply necessary nutrients without adding much to the calorie count.


True.  But people go on fad diets because all they give a crap about is losing weight.  If they actually cared about micronutrients and healthy eating they probably wouldn't be desperate for a fad diet.
 
2020-09-29 10:43:29 AM  

SanityIsAFullTimeJob: I'll make a point on this. Based on this study, you can't say the diet makes a difference. You also can't say that it doesn't make a difference. The sample size may have not been enough to notice.

The results show the people on the diet lost 33% more than those not of the diet. If you do a bigger study and get the same results, that would be something. But you can't know unless you do more research.
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It should be noted that the easiest way to find "statistically significant" differences is to work with huge samples. I could probably measure 1 billion packages of strawberries from 2 brands and say with statistical certainty that Brand A has 0.001 milligram heavier strawberries than Brand B.
 
2020-09-29 10:49:57 AM  

RussianPotato: Every diet has people lose some weight because every diet requires a person to track what they're eating and to eat with purpose.

Miraculously, when they stop the diet they gain back the weight.

Your diet could be a tootsie roll diet and you'd still lose weight if you had fewer calories in than calories out.


Simply keeping a record of what you eat will make you lose weight.  I don't mean using an app. If you have a small notebook and have to take it out and write down everything you eat, it cuts down on snacking.  I learned this as an undergrad.  It is also a great way to restrict buying things, because it makes you think about each purchase.
 
2020-09-29 11:38:00 AM  
The best diet is the one that gets you to commit
 
2020-09-29 12:12:14 PM  
I do the 8pm-Noon fasting and I like it.  It at least keeps me from snacking at night and before lunch.  And this, prob more than anything, helps me lose weight.
 
2020-09-29 12:30:11 PM  

natazha: RussianPotato: Every diet has people lose some weight because every diet requires a person to track what they're eating and to eat with purpose.

Miraculously, when they stop the diet they gain back the weight.

Your diet could be a tootsie roll diet and you'd still lose weight if you had fewer calories in than calories out.

Simply keeping a record of what you eat will make you lose weight.  I don't mean using an app. If you have a small notebook and have to take it out and write down everything you eat, it cuts down on snacking.  I learned this as an undergrad.  It is also a great way to restrict buying things, because it makes you think about each purchase.


It is based on the old "fark paperwork" principle of human motivation.
 
2020-09-29 12:47:12 PM  
Ehh, I'm still going carnivore for October, OMaD as possible. An n of 1, but I figure I can do anything for a month.
 
2020-09-29 1:25:40 PM  
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2020-09-29 1:34:29 PM  

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2020-09-29 2:08:12 PM  

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"Your thread is in another castle."
 
2020-09-29 2:55:27 PM  
At first I misread "fasting" as "fisting" and that's all I've got to say about that.
 
2020-09-29 3:00:46 PM  
I have (more or less) done the vasting bit during my stay at home time due to COVID.

I was a little over 220 lbs, and now under 180lbs. So, for ME it works, i can handle 'starving feeling' that comes with it i guess, my wife simply cannot.

For my wife a low carb diet seems to work though, that did not work for me (turns out, carbs make food yummy).

/ YMMV, apparently?
 
2020-09-29 3:43:02 PM  
Read the "Obesity Code".

Its about insulin resistance. if you keep your blood sugar high all the time your body will resist...meaning you need to create more insulin...but because your body is continually loaded with sugar your body will resist a bit more.....then you need more sugar, more insulin...etc, etc. etc...

a 12 week study is pretty weak. As pointed out earlier if you go on a diet for 12 weeks and then start eating normally then you will bounce back pretty quickly.

I eat a very healthy calorie count from 4pm to 8pm (diner, snacks, beer) but nothing the rest of the time except water, coffee and tea.

so now I am down 15 pounds and I don't have the jumps up and down on the weight...just a steady average of about a 10th of a pound lost each day.

Got 15 more lbs to go!
 
2020-09-29 9:37:13 PM  
I put on 15 lbs thanks to the pandemic and not being able to go to the gym and I find it difficult to work out at home. Also, the comfort eating because we had nowhere to go and stuck home with our 5 year old and newborn (born 2/15). I made cookies and cakes, which we never do for a very good reason. Also got ice cream way too much. For the past few weeks I've been "dieting", which for me is just eating less. No more ice cream 4 times a week. I walk away from every meal just a little hungry, knowing I could eat more and still not be uncomfortable. I toss in snacks of beef jerky and fruit throughout the day. I'm down 7 lbs, and that's with a weekend off while my wife and I enjoyed time away from the kids. Most people don't need to diet. Just eat less.
 
2020-09-30 7:35:55 AM  
This isn't a diet, diets are what you eat. And I'm not sure what happened with the study, but I've never seen intermittent fasting NOT work. Need a better study.
 
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