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2020-09-28 10:11:11 PM  
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2020-09-28 10:25:29 PM  

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2020-09-28 10:31:26 PM  
As much as I love John Cho, isn't he a bit old to be playing Spike? Is James Earl Jones playing Jet?
 
2020-09-28 10:40:12 PM  
I love Cowboy Bebop, but I wish they'd stop trying to make live action versions of animated series.
 
2020-09-28 10:40:59 PM  

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I'm not optimistic.  Even the movie wasn't able to quite recapture the music and feel of the series.  And that had all of the same people working on it.

/still like the movie alright, just nowhere near as much as the series.
 
2020-09-28 10:41:50 PM  

karl2025: I love Cowboy Bebop, but I wish they'd stop trying to make live action versions of animated series.


Or go completely nuts and actually follow through on making a live action Evangelion film, but have someone like David Lynch direct it.
 
2020-09-28 10:41:57 PM  

Ragin' Asian: As much as I love John Cho, isn't he a bit old to be playing Spike? Is James Earl Jones playing Jet?


Considering the injury put filming off for months, you might have a point.
 
2020-09-28 11:13:42 PM  
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2020-09-28 11:14:39 PM  
I was supposed to bring John Cho his coffee but he couldn't hear me through his trailer door. Guess I gotta knock a little harder...
 
2020-09-28 11:19:02 PM  

Ragin' Asian: As much as I love John Cho, isn't he a bit old to be playing Spike? Is James Earl Jones playing Jet?


Maybe, but he looks younger than he is and I don't recall them ever giving any details as to Spike's age.  Besides, not every single detail has to carry over exactly.  I'm pretty sure John Cho isn't going to be running around with green hair.
 
2020-09-28 11:19:57 PM  

karl2025: I love Cowboy Bebop, but I wish they'd stop trying to make live action versions of animated series.


As much shiat as people piled on, I liked the recent Battle Angel Alita. If the original work is treated with the respect it deserves, I won't complain. To put forward another example, The Boys television series pretty much strayed from the comic at the jump. It's held to the spirit, though, and I enjoy it on its own merits.
 
2020-09-28 11:24:28 PM  

NeoCortex42: PlaidJaguar: [Fark user image 294x224] [View Full Size image _x_]

I'm not optimistic.  Even the movie wasn't able to quite recapture the music and feel of the series.  And that had all of the same people working on it.

/still like the movie alright, just nowhere near as much as the series.


I think lots of fans expected the movie to be this epic when it was just an extended episode wedged into the existing canon.
 
2020-09-28 11:33:57 PM  

Neondistraction: Ragin' Asian: As much as I love John Cho, isn't he a bit old to be playing Spike? Is James Earl Jones playing Jet?

Maybe, but he looks younger than he is and I don't recall them ever giving any details as to Spike's age.  Besides, not every single detail has to carry over exactly.  I'm pretty sure John Cho isn't going to be running around with green hair.


The guy is Asian 48 and looks it. Spike's supposed to be in his mid to late 20s. I'll reserve judgment, but there are a bunch of younger talented actors out there who  could pull this off. Cho is in the Chow Yun Fat in Crouching Tiger stage of his career.
 
2020-09-28 11:47:46 PM  
I'm still not hopeful for a Cowboy Bebop that has a Spike who is well into his 40s.
 
2020-09-29 12:16:45 AM  
Speaking of series that used to run on Adult Swim 20 years ago, did anyone watch that CG abomination of Ghost in the Shell that Netflix released a few months ago? If that's how Netflix treats venerable anime series, I'm just going to pretend I didn't hear about this.
 
2020-09-29 12:24:28 AM  

karl2025: I love Cowboy Bebop, but I wish they'd stop trying to make live action versions of animated series.


I dont know man Pacific Rim was pretty good and it was essentially a super robot anime movie.
 
2020-09-29 12:38:11 AM  

Ragin' Asian: Neondistraction: Ragin' Asian: As much as I love John Cho, isn't he a bit old to be playing Spike? Is James Earl Jones playing Jet?

Maybe, but he looks younger than he is and I don't recall them ever giving any details as to Spike's age.  Besides, not every single detail has to carry over exactly.  I'm pretty sure John Cho isn't going to be running around with green hair.

The guy is Asian 48 and looks it. Spike's supposed to be in his mid to late 20s. I'll reserve judgment, but there are a bunch of younger talented actors out there who  could pull this off. Cho is in the Chow Yun Fat in Crouching Tiger stage of his career.


Hey I'm just happy we didn't end up with Keanu Reeves as Spike.
 
2020-09-29 12:59:18 AM  

Ragin' Asian: As much as I love John Cho, isn't he a bit old to be playing Spike? Is James Earl Jones playing Jet?


Meanwhile in official show lore Jet is supposed to be 36.  A very hard 36, apparently.  Being played by a 44 year old.  With a 33-year old playing Faye, whom looks like she's in her twenties.  She's supposed to be in her 70's or 80's if not for her accident, right?
 
2020-09-29 1:01:23 AM  
Cho is not too old.

Yeah, Spike is 20-something, but in anime, that is experiences veteran dude territory.

Live action people that age all look like little kids.  There is no way an actual 20-something could pull off the coolness and gravitas needed to play Spike.  Someone closer to the age of a typical noir detective?  Better.
 
2020-09-29 1:05:00 AM  

NeoCortex42: karl2025: I love Cowboy Bebop, but I wish they'd stop trying to make live action versions of animated series.

Or go completely nuts and actually follow through on making a live action Evangelion film, but have someone like David Lynch direct it.


Ou god no. Eva was a mess as an OVA and as two or three movies that tried to fix the original. Let this one die off.
 
2020-09-29 1:05:18 AM  
I want it to be good, but I very much expect it to be bad.
 
2020-09-29 1:08:56 AM  

Ragin' Asian: karl2025: I love Cowboy Bebop, but I wish they'd stop trying to make live action versions of animated series.

As much shiat as people piled on, I liked the recent Battle Angel Alita. If the original work is treated with the respect it deserves, I won't complain. To put forward another example, The Boys television series pretty much strayed from the comic at the jump. It's held to the spirit, though, and I enjoy it on its own merits.


The Battle Angel and GitS movies suffered the same fatal flaw, they both tried to mash in multiple seasons and movies worth of plot into one messy script that made little sense to outside audiences and frustrated those familiar with the material.

Take any one or two Graphic Novels and just tell that part of the story, results would have been much better.
 
2020-09-29 1:11:11 AM  

Fabric_Man: Speaking of series that used to run on Adult Swim 20 years ago, did anyone watch that CG abomination of Ghost in the Shell that Netflix released a few months ago? If that's how Netflix treats venerable anime series, I'm just going to pretend I didn't hear about this.


The CG was a little jarring as first but the core of the storytelling was there. Give them some credit for trying to go on a different direction and actually blowing up the existing world and making something different.
 
2020-09-29 1:11:40 AM  

rummonkey: NeoCortex42: karl2025: I love Cowboy Bebop, but I wish they'd stop trying to make live action versions of animated series.

Or go completely nuts and actually follow through on making a live action Evangelion film, but have someone like David Lynch direct it.

Ou god no. Eva was a mess as an OVA and as two or three movies that tried to fix the original. Let this one die off.


Have you been keeping up with Rebuild of Evangelion?
 
2020-09-29 1:13:02 AM  

NetOwl: rummonkey: NeoCortex42: karl2025: I love Cowboy Bebop, but I wish they'd stop trying to make live action versions of animated series.

Or go completely nuts and actually follow through on making a live action Evangelion film, but have someone like David Lynch direct it.

Ou god no. Eva was a mess as an OVA and as two or three movies that tried to fix the original. Let this one die off.

Have you been keeping up with Rebuild of Evangelion?


No, I tried watching Eva when it came out on Netflix a while ago and I just cant. I think I've completely moved past Eva.
 
2020-09-29 1:20:59 AM  

Snukastyle: Ragin' Asian: As much as I love John Cho, isn't he a bit old to be playing Spike? Is James Earl Jones playing Jet?

Meanwhile in official show lore Jet is supposed to be 36.  A very hard 36, apparently.  Being played by a 44 year old.  With a 33-year old playing Faye, whom looks like she's in her twenties.  She's supposed to be in her 70's or 80's if not for her accident, right?


As much as I respect Cho and lIke him, I get the feeling they went with the local Asian actors they knew, and they don't know more than a handful. Yet, I will give a benefit of a doubt, it doesn't look obviosly bad like the Death Note live action series.
 
2020-09-29 1:56:12 AM  

Snukastyle: Ragin' Asian: As much as I love John Cho, isn't he a bit old to be playing Spike? Is James Earl Jones playing Jet?

Meanwhile in official show lore Jet is supposed to be 36.  A very hard 36, apparently.  Being played by a 44 year old.  With a 33-year old playing Faye, whom looks like she's in her twenties.  She's supposed to be in her 70's or 80's if not for her accident, right?


Well Jet lived a hard life, I'd expect him to look older than he is.  And Faye was chronologically 80+ years old but biologically she was mid to late 20's probably.

Honestly though it's a mistake to try and stick to the exact physical appearance of characters in live action.  Does it really impact the story if everyone is a few years older? Were the X-Men movies worse off because Hugh Jackman is nearly a foot taller than Wolverine is supposed to be?
 
2020-09-29 3:36:34 AM  

Neondistraction: Snukastyle: Ragin' Asian: As much as I love John Cho, isn't he a bit old to be playing Spike? Is James Earl Jones playing Jet?

Meanwhile in official show lore Jet is supposed to be 36.  A very hard 36, apparently.  Being played by a 44 year old.  With a 33-year old playing Faye, whom looks like she's in her twenties.  She's supposed to be in her 70's or 80's if not for her accident, right?

Well Jet lived a hard life, I'd expect him to look older than he is.  And Faye was chronologically 80+ years old but biologically she was mid to late 20's probably.

Honestly though it's a mistake to try and stick to the exact physical appearance of characters in live action.  Does it really impact the story if everyone is a few years older? Were the X-Men movies worse off because Hugh Jackman is nearly a foot taller than Wolverine is supposed to be?


kindof yeah.
 
2020-09-29 6:31:23 AM  

karl2025: I love Cowboy Bebop, but I wish they'd stop trying to make live action versions of animated series.


Can't be worse than OVAs. Not that I have seen everyone, but of the roughly 60ish I have seen in my life. Only 4 were worth the money.

Bleach wasn't bad. FMA was awful. At least this universe doesn't have super powered monsters. At worst, we get shiatty CGI planes and city scapes. I like GHitS and Alita, but that puts me in the minority.
 
2020-09-29 8:02:22 AM  

Ragin' Asian: NeoCortex42: PlaidJaguar: [Fark user image 294x224] [View Full Size image _x_]

I'm not optimistic.  Even the movie wasn't able to quite recapture the music and feel of the series.  And that had all of the same people working on it.

/still like the movie alright, just nowhere near as much as the series.

I think lots of fans expected the movie to be this epic when it was just an extended episode wedged into the existing canon.


I saw the movie first, and liked it enough that I immediately sought out the series. So it did something right.
 
2020-09-29 8:05:33 AM  

AppleOptionEsc: karl2025: I love Cowboy Bebop, but I wish they'd stop trying to make live action versions of animated series.

Can't be worse than OVAs. Not that I have seen everyone, but of the roughly 60ish I have seen in my life. Only 4 were worth the money.

Bleach wasn't bad. FMA was awful. At least this universe doesn't have super powered monsters. At worst, we get shiatty CGI planes and city scapes. I like GHitS and Alita, but that puts me in the minority.


So, do you actually like anime?  And why are you watching so many OVAs instead of just watching series?
 
2020-09-29 8:14:27 AM  

AppleOptionEsc: At least this universe doesn't have super powered monsters


Unless you count the fridge monster.
 
2020-09-29 8:30:04 AM  
I'd really love to see a live action Bubblegum Crisis, personally.
 
2020-09-29 8:53:49 AM  

karl2025: I love Cowboy Bebop, but I wish they'd stop trying to make live action versions of animated series.


Seriously, who are these people who want live action versions of anime?

Fabric_Man: Speaking of series that used to run on Adult Swim 20 years ago, did anyone watch that CG abomination of Ghost in the Shell that Netflix released a few months ago? If that's how Netflix treats venerable anime series, I'm just going to pretend I didn't hear about this.


I watched an episode. I couldn't take any more. I'm told the writing was supposedly good, but I couldn't make it past the CG. If only they spent a little bit more money and either did it normal, or at least decent CGI..

Though, the obviously influenced by Netflix parts kind of bugged me. Like "Now in America (or America like place, anyway)!" or "Token black guy!"
 
2020-09-29 9:03:08 AM  

Any Pie Left: I'd really love to see a live action Bubblegum Crisis, personally.


A younger college-aged me from back in the 90s would agree with you wholeheartedly. With what we have seen from Disney and other production companies, I think that is now a terrible idea. Any movie or television show is a product of the time it was released. Trying to make a Bubblegum Crisis or a AD Police Revival 30+ years after it was released would never work. It would be a muddled mess partially because the audience isn't where it used to be back in the 80s and 90s when it was written. Looking at Bubblegum Crisis specifically there would be far too much information to have to unpack for new audiences just for them to understand that the Genom Corporation is an enemy analog to Tyrell from Blade Runner. I guess we would have to have the hacks at ScreenRant spell it out for modern audiences so that they have some sort of context to be able to understand what is happening.

Somewhere, somehow, production companies are making some sort of financial profit from live-action revivals of animated movies and shows. In the creative realm, they just dilute the original. The golden age for creativity in anime has passed. It is not the 80s and 90s anymore. If you want good new anime you are going to have to write new stuff.
 
2020-09-29 9:08:17 AM  

NeoCortex42: AppleOptionEsc: karl2025: I love Cowboy Bebop, but I wish they'd stop trying to make live action versions of animated series.

Can't be worse than OVAs. Not that I have seen everyone, but of the roughly 60ish I have seen in my life. Only 4 were worth the money.

Bleach wasn't bad. FMA was awful. At least this universe doesn't have super powered monsters. At worst, we get shiatty CGI planes and city scapes. I like GHitS and Alita, but that puts me in the minority.

So, do you actually like anime?  And why are you watching so many OVAs instead of just watching series?


An OVA is like a movie? I suppose it would be how pedantic you want to be on comparisons. Movies or live t.v. show adaptations don't often coincide with the original creator or run on an anime series. And how would I know if  I like something if you don't watch it? Life is too short to be elitist on anime. the 90's are over. We have crunchyroll, Hulu and Netflix. There is more stuff to watch than time in a year. Unless you are a house bound NEET.
 
2020-09-29 9:27:15 AM  

AppleOptionEsc: NeoCortex42: AppleOptionEsc: karl2025: I love Cowboy Bebop, but I wish they'd stop trying to make live action versions of animated series.

Can't be worse than OVAs. Not that I have seen everyone, but of the roughly 60ish I have seen in my life. Only 4 were worth the money.

Bleach wasn't bad. FMA was awful. At least this universe doesn't have super powered monsters. At worst, we get shiatty CGI planes and city scapes. I like GHitS and Alita, but that puts me in the minority.

So, do you actually like anime?  And why are you watching so many OVAs instead of just watching series?

An OVA is like a movie? I suppose it would be how pedantic you want to be on comparisons. Movies or live t.v. show adaptations don't often coincide with the original creator or run on an anime series. And how would I know if  I like something if you don't watch it? Life is too short to be elitist on anime. the 90's are over. We have crunchyroll, Hulu and Netflix. There is more stuff to watch than time in a year. Unless you are a house bound NEET.


Well there are a handful of very good offerings that have come out recently, I still miss a lot of my 80s and 90s anime. I even got a subscription to Funimation for a couple of months to get it out of my system.
 
2020-09-29 9:27:34 AM  

Neondistraction: Ragin' Asian: Neondistraction: Ragin' Asian: As much as I love John Cho, isn't he a bit old to be playing Spike? Is James Earl Jones playing Jet?

Maybe, but he looks younger than he is and I don't recall them ever giving any details as to Spike's age.  Besides, not every single detail has to carry over exactly.  I'm pretty sure John Cho isn't going to be running around with green hair.

The guy is Asian 48 and looks it. Spike's supposed to be in his mid to late 20s. I'll reserve judgment, but there are a bunch of younger talented actors out there who  could pull this off. Cho is in the Chow Yun Fat in Crouching Tiger stage of his career.

Hey I'm just happy we didn't end up with Keanu Reeves as Spike.


I'll certainly second that.
 
2020-09-29 9:38:17 AM  

AppleOptionEsc: NeoCortex42: AppleOptionEsc: karl2025: I love Cowboy Bebop, but I wish they'd stop trying to make live action versions of animated series.

Can't be worse than OVAs. Not that I have seen everyone, but of the roughly 60ish I have seen in my life. Only 4 were worth the money.

Bleach wasn't bad. FMA was awful. At least this universe doesn't have super powered monsters. At worst, we get shiatty CGI planes and city scapes. I like GHitS and Alita, but that puts me in the minority.

So, do you actually like anime?  And why are you watching so many OVAs instead of just watching series?

An OVA is like a movie? I suppose it would be how pedantic you want to be on comparisons. Movies or live t.v. show adaptations don't often coincide with the original creator or run on an anime series. And how would I know if  I like something if you don't watch it? Life is too short to be elitist on anime. the 90's are over. We have crunchyroll, Hulu and Netflix. There is more stuff to watch than time in a year. Unless you are a house bound NEET.


Maybe we're working off different definitions of OVA here. OVAs are the anime equivalent of direct to video. Slightly better budgets than TV, but well below a movie. Their quality is just as varied as proper series or movies.

Some series work better than others when it comes to expanding to an additional OVA story. Then there's some manga adaptations that only ever get an OVA.

It just seems weird to say you don't like OVAs in general. It's just a distribution model.
 
2020-09-29 10:46:13 AM  

NeoCortex42: AppleOptionEsc: NeoCortex42: AppleOptionEsc: karl2025: I love Cowboy Bebop, but I wish they'd stop trying to make live action versions of animated series.

Can't be worse than OVAs. Not that I have seen everyone, but of the roughly 60ish I have seen in my life. Only 4 were worth the money.

Bleach wasn't bad. FMA was awful. At least this universe doesn't have super powered monsters. At worst, we get shiatty CGI planes and city scapes. I like GHitS and Alita, but that puts me in the minority.

So, do you actually like anime?  And why are you watching so many OVAs instead of just watching series?

An OVA is like a movie? I suppose it would be how pedantic you want to be on comparisons. Movies or live t.v. show adaptations don't often coincide with the original creator or run on an anime series. And how would I know if  I like something if you don't watch it? Life is too short to be elitist on anime. the 90's are over. We have crunchyroll, Hulu and Netflix. There is more stuff to watch than time in a year. Unless you are a house bound NEET.

Maybe we're working off different definitions of OVA here. OVAs are the anime equivalent of direct to video. Slightly better budgets than TV, but well below a movie. Their quality is just as varied as proper series or movies.

Some series work better than others when it comes to expanding to an additional OVA story. Then there's some manga adaptations that only ever get an OVA.

It just seems weird to say you don't like OVAs in general. It's just a distribution model.


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2020-09-29 8:29:02 PM  
I don't think  Bubblegum Crisis needs all that much explanation.  Hot chicks in power armor fight biomechanical monsters owned by an evil mega-corporation.  It's not Tolstoy. Dystopian future worlds don't need a lot of explanation to modern audiences.  It wouldn't take very long to teach the audience that Stingray's dad was the genius behind the technology GENOM stole and applied to their boomers, and that to get revenge and fight back, Stingray is using the advanced suit designs her father pioneered, while financing everything doing mercenary work.
 
2020-09-30 1:19:25 AM  

Neondistraction: with Keanu Reeves as Spike.


I don't know, I think Keanu Reeves might be Spike.
 
2020-09-30 1:25:24 AM  

tinderfitles: karl2025: I love Cowboy Bebop, but I wish they'd stop trying to make live action versions of animated series.

I dont know man Pacific Rim was pretty good and it was essentially a super robot anime movie.


Right, they made a live action movie in a genre, not a live action Voltron. There is a significant difference.
 
2020-09-30 10:02:32 AM  

Last Man on Earth: AppleOptionEsc: At least this universe doesn't have super powered monsters

Unless you count the fridge monster.


There was the deathless kid from the gate explosion, and the weird guy who reminded me of The Penguin.  *He* gave Spike a load of trouble.
 
2020-09-30 10:03:48 AM  

trialpha: karl2025: I love Cowboy Bebop, but I wish they'd stop trying to make live action versions of animated series.

Seriously, who are these people who want live action versions of anime?

Fabric_Man: Speaking of series that used to run on Adult Swim 20 years ago, did anyone watch that CG abomination of Ghost in the Shell that Netflix released a few months ago? If that's how Netflix treats venerable anime series, I'm just going to pretend I didn't hear about this.

I watched an episode. I couldn't take any more. I'm told the writing was supposedly good, but I couldn't make it past the CG. If only they spent a little bit more money and either did it normal, or at least decent CGI..

Though, the obviously influenced by Netflix parts kind of bugged me. Like "Now in America (or America like place, anyway)!" or "Token black guy!"


Have you seen the live action 'Space Battleship Yamato'?
 
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