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(Guardian)   Clothing company started by a Pom son of a working-class MP and a Jewish guy from Austria are not happy that Proud Boys have adopted their black and yellow logo   (theguardian.com) divider line
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2020-09-28 6:00:51 PM  
Pomeranian?
Pomegranate?

Either way, I'm in. It probably won't be my favorite shirt, but that's amazing.
 
2020-09-28 6:12:27 PM  
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2020-09-28 6:12:49 PM  
Are there organisations that are storing the faces, names, social media accounts, and identifying features of all of the out-and-proud racists, misogynist, xenophobia, magats, hoaxes, and other scumbags to make sure they don't live without consequences?
 
2020-09-28 6:16:10 PM  

KB202: Are there organisations that are storing the faces, names, social media accounts, and identifying features of all of the out-and-proud racists, misogynist, xenophobia, magats, hoaxes, and other scumbags to make sure they don't live without consequences?


Probably not because fb and camanal are on the same side
 
2020-09-28 6:26:17 PM  

OccamsWhiskers: Pomeranian?
Pomegranate?

Either way, I'm in. It probably won't be my favorite shirt, but that's amazing.


Here's a helpful photo of a working class Pom in a polo shirt

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2020-09-28 6:27:30 PM  
With a helpful picture of asshats that begs the question, "WTF is wrong with these people?" They are so damaged.

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2020-09-28 6:32:06 PM  

OccamsWhiskers: Pomeranian?
Pomegranate?

Either way, I'm in. It probably won't be my favorite shirt, but that's amazing.


Mostly Australian use...slang for Brits or recent immigrants to Aus from Britain

"The best guess at this time is that "pommy" was based on the word "pomegranate" - either because the redness of the fruit supposedly matched the typically florid British complexion, or because (like "Johnny Grant") it was used as rhyming slang for "immigrant." "

First theory I heard was that it as derived from pomme, French for "apple" with the above connotation.
 
2020-09-28 6:49:24 PM  
Yeah, sorry guys, but it's on my do-not-buy list now. They should find someone responsible to sue (like whoever's making the knockoffs of their logo). The damage is probably pretty significant.

Maybe try polos without logos. I'd consider them then. They don't have to have a logo. It's better if they don't, really.
 
2020-09-28 6:53:11 PM  

Billy Liar: OccamsWhiskers: Pomeranian?
Pomegranate?

Either way, I'm in. It probably won't be my favorite shirt, but that's amazing.

Mostly Australian use...slang for Brits or recent immigrants to Aus from Britain

"The best guess at this time is that "pommy" was based on the word "pomegranate" - either because the redness of the fruit supposedly matched the typically florid British complexion, or because (like "Johnny Grant") it was used as rhyming slang for "immigrant." "

First theory I heard was that it as derived from pomme, French for "apple" with the above connotation.


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2020-09-28 6:54:06 PM  
Polos are for dads. What's next with these slack jawed cosplayers? Grass-stained white New Balance shoes?
 
2020-09-28 6:56:21 PM  

Billy Liar: OccamsWhiskers: Pomeranian?
Pomegranate?

Either way, I'm in. It probably won't be my favorite shirt, but that's amazing.

Mostly Australian use...slang for Brits or recent immigrants to Aus from Britain

"The best guess at this time is that "pommy" was based on the word "pomegranate" - either because the redness of the fruit supposedly matched the typically florid British complexion, or because (like "Johnny Grant") it was used as rhyming slang for "immigrant." "

First theory I heard was that it as derived from pomme, French for "apple" with the above connotation.


I'd never thought about it - but there was certainly no shortage of poor folks from the east end of London transported to Australia, Cockney rhyming slang makes sense.

The correct usage is also either "Whining/Whinging Pom" or "Pom/Pommy Bastard"

"Whining Pom Bastard" is also acceptable.
 
2020-09-28 7:20:38 PM  
Good for Fred Perry and doing the right thing.
 
2020-09-28 7:21:11 PM  

KB202: Are there organisations that are storing the faces, names, social media accounts, and identifying features of all of the out-and-proud racists, misogynist, xenophobia, magats, hoaxes, and other scumbags to make sure they don't live without consequences?


What happens when someone gets mis-identified?
 
2020-09-28 7:27:30 PM  
Good.

Now do a fundraising design collaboration with BLM leaders and really set off the white supremacists.
 
2020-09-28 7:29:26 PM  
Tell that to the Rolling Stones, Bruce Springsteen, or anyone who has used the phrase "Notorious RBG" in the last 3 years and see what a reaction you get to this. RWNJ's have no imagination and are thieves to boot.
 
2020-09-28 8:19:20 PM  
License the logo to a line of dildos.
 
2020-09-28 8:27:42 PM  

Unscratchable_Itch: With a helpful picture of asshats that begs the question, "WTF is wrong with these people?" They are so damaged.

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The short answer is "toxic masculinity" but what that means is a long, long answer.
 
2020-09-28 8:35:23 PM  

WhiskeySticks: Polos are for dads. What's next with these slack jawed cosplayers? Grass-stained white New Balance shoes?


They're the best casual shirt-sleeve option around if you don't want to rock a t-shirt las outerwear. You've got short sleeve button ups but they have a bad "1960s nerd" vibe.
 
2020-09-28 8:35:53 PM  
Short-sleeve, that is.
 
2020-09-28 9:14:44 PM  

fallingcow: WhiskeySticks: Polos are for dads. What's next with these slack jawed cosplayers? Grass-stained white New Balance shoes?

They're the best casual shirt-sleeve option around if you don't want to rock a t-shirt las outerwear. You've got short sleeve button ups but they have a bad "1960s nerd" vibe.


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2020-09-28 9:31:58 PM  

fallingcow: Yeah, sorry guys, but it's on my do-not-buy list now. They should find someone responsible to sue (like whoever's making the knockoffs of their logo). The damage is probably pretty significant.

Maybe try polos without logos. I'd consider them then. They don't have to have a logo. It's better if they don't, really.


Lol.

What you're saying is that you had no problem for the decades that skinheads were rocking the brand, but this is a bridge too far because...?
 
2020-09-28 9:38:58 PM  

WhiskeySticks: Polos are for dads. What's next with these slack jawed cosplayers? Grass-stained white New Balance shoes?


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Football casual.

And by football, I mean the sport called football by almost everyone in the world.
 
2020-09-28 10:28:42 PM  

Unscratchable_Itch: With a helpful picture of asshats that begs the question, "WTF is wrong with these people?" They are so damaged.

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Wearing a polo over an acu jacket... Alrighty then.
 
2020-09-28 10:43:05 PM  

gar1013: fallingcow: Yeah, sorry guys, but it's on my do-not-buy list now. They should find someone responsible to sue (like whoever's making the knockoffs of their logo). The damage is probably pretty significant.

Maybe try polos without logos. I'd consider them then. They don't have to have a logo. It's better if they don't, really.

Lol.

What you're saying is that you had no problem for the decades that skinheads were rocking the brand, but this is a bridge too far because...?


Because I didn't know about it, and I think that was pretty normal (at least in the US). Now the logo's been all over news photos & video of "alt right" nutters.

I hope they just take the logo off. Keep that shiat for signage and the tag. More decent, logo-free polos is a good thing.
 
2020-09-28 11:40:55 PM  

WhiskeySticks: Polos are for dads. What's next with these slack jawed cosplayers? Grass-stained white New Balance shoes?


Have you been raiding my closet, son?
 
2020-09-28 11:47:32 PM  

fallingcow: gar1013: fallingcow: Yeah, sorry guys, but it's on my do-not-buy list now. They should find someone responsible to sue (like whoever's making the knockoffs of their logo). The damage is probably pretty significant.

Maybe try polos without logos. I'd consider them then. They don't have to have a logo. It's better if they don't, really.

Lol.

What you're saying is that you had no problem for the decades that skinheads were rocking the brand, but this is a bridge too far because...?

Because I didn't know about it, and I think that was pretty normal (at least in the US). Now the logo's been all over news photos & video of "alt right" nutters.

I hope they just take the logo off. Keep that shiat for signage and the tag. More decent, logo-free polos is a good thing.


Literally nobody who knows about Fred Perry is unaware of the association.

As far as polos go, they actually aren't all that great. They tend to shrink - not quite as bad as Lacoste though.

Ben Sherman makes a better polo, but the one thing the euro brands don't do well is have shirts that fit people with wide shoulders. I can get USA XL shirts that are baggy, and then turn around and buy a 3XL UK shirt and feel like I can't actually move my arms.

If you really want logo free, just get some Lands End or LL Bean stuff. If you don't mind a logo too much, go Brooks Brothers.
 
2020-09-29 12:18:33 AM  
gar1013:

Yeah, I do a lot (a lot for me, anyway, with a non-huge wardrobe) of BB because I know they fit OK in the shoulders/chest and the fabric and construction is excellent. Good deal on sale. Down sides: logo that makes me feel a bit douchey, tennis tail (I like to wear both untucked and tucked), and they run crazy-long for some reason. Oh and have to get slim fit because, like so many other US brands, "slim" actually means "a little fat" while "regular" means "a lot fat", and I'm only a little fat.

My favorite for the money is Wisdom Cotton because they fit me almost perfectly, cloth and construction's not BB level but is better than J.Crew, no tennis tail, except they have hideous glued-on thick vinyl logos, which are even worse than embroidered. :-(

Was thinking of trying Kent Wang next time a polo wears out (hopefully 3-4 years, maybe more, I'm pretty stocked up). May try Bean next time I'm there, which is like a 1/year trip for me at most, hadn't occurred to me to look for polos there.

FWIW I was aware of Doc Martens for many years before I found out about the skinhead and neonazi association, I think when reading up on some of the stuff in the movie Green Room. Looks like that was five years ago so I probably knew of the boots (though didn't own any) for a decade or more before learning that. Similar deal with Fred Perry, for me, I guess. Didn't know about it until IIRC Charlottesville. Now they're in the pile with "any somewhat reddish hat whatsoever" as things I'm not gonna wear any time soon.
 
2020-09-29 1:27:26 AM  
Meh. I prefer to be decisive and either wear a t-shirt or button down as the situation demands. Not this half-assed polo shirt crap that's trying to be both.
 
2020-09-29 2:35:26 AM  

Chevello: Meh. I prefer to be decisive and either wear a t-shirt or button down as the situation demands. Not this half-assed polo shirt crap that's trying to be both.


They're just stretchy but non-synthetic-fiber athletic shirts that've never been considered primarily underwear (that fact, the stretchiness, and the collar are basically what differentiate them from a t-shirt). They're not a bit formal, though they can take a blazer slightly better than a t-shirt does. In either case you can either pull off that look, or you can't. That they have any association with business wear is kinda weird and I assume a result of attempts by e.g. car salesmen to adopt a casual, fun country club look, but they turned it into their work uniform, so now it's (arguably, and just barely) the casualest of business-casual by association with the least trendy and attractive of occupations, which admittedly isn't a good sign. In fact I'd say the biggest strike against them is that, wearing them, you risk looking like you work at Best Buy, especially if you're young. Easily avoided by not wearing them with chinos in any normal color if the polo's a solid, non-"loud" color that might be mistaken for a minimum-wage work shirt. If it's hot out, simply wearing them with shorts is an easy choice, and if you're going somewhere shorts aren't OK then you might want to reconsider the polo anyway. At any rate, if that's a problem, t-shirts have even worse associations one could make, yet people seem OK with them.

Men's casual Summer wear for actually-hot and also-humid but not-beach weather blows, generally, and that describes Summer in much of the US. Polo shirts are a good staple in that kinda-shiat niche of casual wear for icky-hot weather. I've basically just used them as a t-shirt replacement, personally. They're fartin' around, quick-run-to-the-store-for-butter, and sports/light-outdoor-activites shirts that look just a smidge nicer than t-shirts.
 
2020-09-29 5:10:08 AM  

Konlii: OccamsWhiskers: Pomeranian?
Pomegranate?

Either way, I'm in. It probably won't be my favorite shirt, but that's amazing.

Here's a helpful photo of a working class Pom in a polo shirt

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Thank you. That was awesome
 
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