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(ESPN)   Rams squawk about bogus pass-interference call on final drive that cost them deserved win. Too bad it wasn't reviewable by replay booth   (espn.com) divider line
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2020-09-28 4:01:14 AM  
To be fair, that earlier "interception" seemed bogus.

Evened out.

Rams still owe the world after stealing a win and then shiatting the bed in the Owl.
 
2020-09-28 7:18:58 AM  
that cost them deserved win

I didn't watch the game, but it certainly it wasn't one call or play towards the end of the game that "cost" you anything that coughing up four nearly-unanswered touchdowns earlier didn't cost you.

Not sure you "deserve" anything when you are trailing 28-3 during an NFL game.
 
2020-09-28 7:52:28 AM  

Dr.Fey: that cost them deserved win

I didn't watch the game, but it certainly it wasn't one call or play towards the end of the game that "cost" you anything that coughing up four nearly-unanswered touchdowns earlier didn't cost you.

Not sure you "deserve" anything when you are trailing 28-3 during an NFL game.


Not that I have any skin in this game, but that's kind of a weird take.  Why would it matter when LA scored their points during the game?  Is a call worse if they scored most of their 32 points in the first half instead of the second?  Do you get less of a win if you have to come back to win it?
 
2020-09-28 8:33:14 AM  

The Third Man: Dr.Fey: that cost them deserved win

I didn't watch the game, but it certainly it wasn't one call or play towards the end of the game that "cost" you anything that coughing up four nearly-unanswered touchdowns earlier didn't cost you.

Not sure you "deserve" anything when you are trailing 28-3 during an NFL game.

Not that I have any skin in this game, but that's kind of a weird take.  Why would it matter when LA scored their points during the game?  Is a call worse if they scored most of their 32 points in the first half instead of the second?  Do you get less of a win if you have to come back to win it?


This. It's better to chalk it up to the missed FG attempt and interception in the 1st half and the fumble at the end. That missed FG would have given the points to win and possibly changed the momentum. The interception during the 1st half gave the Bills one of their touchdowns. That's what cost the Rams the game, although it came really close. The Rams just need to play well both halves, not just the 2nd.
 
2020-09-28 9:00:30 AM  

The Third Man: Dr.Fey: that cost them deserved win

I didn't watch the game, but it certainly it wasn't one call or play towards the end of the game that "cost" you anything that coughing up four nearly-unanswered touchdowns earlier didn't cost you.

Not sure you "deserve" anything when you are trailing 28-3 during an NFL game.

Not that I have any skin in this game, but that's kind of a weird take.  Why would it matter when LA scored their points during the game?  Is a call worse if they scored most of their 32 points in the first half instead of the second?  Do you get less of a win if you have to come back to win it?


If the call was bad then it did cost them the game. A team should only be required to play well enough to score more than the other team, not score more than the other team and overcome bad officiating.

My opinion is all plays should be reviewable, particularly non-calls.
 
2020-09-28 9:01:33 AM  
It was an objectively bad call and not making it would've ended the game.

Really nothing to argue about there. We don't need to play the stupid "but what about...?" game like we have some stake saying that they're responsible for their own loss. I think we do enough of the whole excusing authority for its errors while blaming victims in this country.

Yep, they're right, it was a bad call and it ended up costing them the game. Life ain't fair sometimes. Let's try to make it more fair.
 
2020-09-28 9:18:37 AM  

The Third Man: that's kind of a weird take.


You're probably right.

/I sleepily posted that around 5 am local time after being awakened by some weird explosion outside about a mile away (estimation based on time between flash illuminating windows and noise).  My guess is a transformer blew somewhere, but we still have power.  I'm sure my nosy vigilant neighbors will have the answer posted on nextdoor.com if I go look.
 
2020-09-28 9:20:17 AM  

puffy999: To be fair, that earlier "interception" seemed bogus.

Evened out.

Rams still owe the world after stealing a win and then shiatting the bed in the Owl.


Yeah, just in case anyone didn't see the "pick":
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That was robbery. Refs made up for it, it happens.
 
2020-09-28 9:39:32 AM  

phimuskapsi: puffy999: To be fair, that earlier "interception" seemed bogus.

Evened out.

Rams still owe the world after stealing a win and then shiatting the bed in the Owl.

Yeah, just in case anyone didn't see the "pick":
[Fark user image image 850x478]

That was robbery. Refs made up for it, it happens.


Just watched a clip of that now. Wow, was that a bad call.

As the the PI, I don't think it was interference but I do think it was defensive holding, so...
 
2020-09-28 9:48:29 AM  

Dafatone: phimuskapsi: puffy999: To be fair, that earlier "interception" seemed bogus.

Evened out.

Rams still owe the world after stealing a win and then shiatting the bed in the Owl.

Yeah, just in case anyone didn't see the "pick":
[Fark user image image 850x478]

That was robbery. Refs made up for it, it happens.

Just watched a clip of that now. Wow, was that a bad call.

As the the PI, I don't think it was interference but I do think it was defensive holding, so...


I agree that not DPI, but definitely a hold - as he was 8 yards deep into his route when he got held up. The argument that it wasn't catchable (which I've seen online) is bogus, because had he not been held - it would have been.
 
2020-09-28 10:22:20 AM  

puffy999: To be fair, that earlier "interception" seemed bogus.

Evened out.

Rams still owe the world after stealing a win and then shiatting the bed in the Owl.


I will never feel any pity for L.A. over a bad PI call/no-call.
 
2020-09-28 10:39:04 AM  

phimuskapsi: puffy999: To be fair, that earlier "interception" seemed bogus.

Evened out.

Rams still owe the world after stealing a win and then shiatting the bed in the Owl.

Yeah, just in case anyone didn't see the "pick":
[Fark user image image 850x478]

That was robbery. Refs made up for it, it happens.


Thank you. I do not like biatching about the refs, but that call was mind-numbing. He caught it, he came down with it via contact, held it to the ground and the Ram defender climbed on top of him and grabbed it, while Kroft never lost control. At worst it was a 50/50 ball. Nope, they called it an INT. Stupefying.

But hey, there's always gonna be bad calls. You win some, you lose some.
 
2020-09-28 10:57:11 AM  
It's true--the refs gave the game to Buffalo. LA had the Bills stopped dead.
Ref steps in, calls a bogus PI, and gives Buffalo 1st n goal on the 1.
I watched it and it was BS.
 
2020-09-28 11:05:14 AM  

fastfxr: It's true--the refs gave the game to Buffalo. LA had the Bills stopped dead.
Ref steps in, calls a bogus PI, and gives Buffalo 1st n goal on the 1.
I watched it and it was BS.


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Note the contact, note the position passed the LOS. 8-10 yards down the line. 5 yards is the rule.
 
2020-09-28 11:11:57 AM  
I'm a Packers fan, but the Saints got jobbed by the refs last night.  Probably nearly 100 yards in BS penalties against the Saints last night.
 
2020-09-28 12:11:41 PM  

phimuskapsi: fastfxr: It's true--the refs gave the game to Buffalo. LA had the Bills stopped dead.
Ref steps in, calls a bogus PI, and gives Buffalo 1st n goal on the 1.
I watched it and it was BS.

[Fark user image 850x337]

Note the contact, note the position passed the LOS. 8-10 yards down the line. 5 yards is the rule.


Lol.  If that potato screenshot is the best you got, you got nothing.  Be happy with the gift win, no need to try and defend it so bad.  The Bills are an ok team.  They'll probably make the playoffs.  Mazel tov
 
2020-09-28 1:03:04 PM  

mjbok: I'm a Packers fan, but the Saints got jobbed by the refs last night.  Probably nearly 100 yards in BS penalties against the Saints last night.


I agree with you but I thought that the Packers did enough to win and were the better team anyway. Cheers.
 
2020-09-28 1:18:41 PM  

max_pooper: The Third Man: Dr.Fey: that cost them deserved win

I didn't watch the game, but it certainly it wasn't one call or play towards the end of the game that "cost" you anything that coughing up four nearly-unanswered touchdowns earlier didn't cost you.

Not sure you "deserve" anything when you are trailing 28-3 during an NFL game.

Not that I have any skin in this game, but that's kind of a weird take.  Why would it matter when LA scored their points during the game?  Is a call worse if they scored most of their 32 points in the first half instead of the second?  Do you get less of a win if you have to come back to win it?

If the call was bad then it did cost them the game. A team should only be required to play well enough to score more than the other team, not score more than the other team and overcome bad officiating.

My opinion is all plays should be reviewable, particularly non-calls.


No game will ever be reffed perfectly. That is simply impossible.

That should be the aspiration (and is why I farking hat people defending "the human factor" in baseball umpiring), but with a recognition that it will never be perfect.

Unless there is a clear pattern of bad calls against a team, there is no reason to get up in arms, you just have to deal with it.
 
2020-09-28 1:50:49 PM  

dywed88: max_pooper: The Third Man: Dr.Fey: that cost them deserved win

I didn't watch the game, but it certainly it wasn't one call or play towards the end of the game that "cost" you anything that coughing up four nearly-unanswered touchdowns earlier didn't cost you.

Not sure you "deserve" anything when you are trailing 28-3 during an NFL game.

Not that I have any skin in this game, but that's kind of a weird take.  Why would it matter when LA scored their points during the game?  Is a call worse if they scored most of their 32 points in the first half instead of the second?  Do you get less of a win if you have to come back to win it?

If the call was bad then it did cost them the game. A team should only be required to play well enough to score more than the other team, not score more than the other team and overcome bad officiating.

My opinion is all plays should be reviewable, particularly non-calls.

No game will ever be reffed perfectly. That is simply impossible.

That should be the aspiration (and is why I farking hat people defending "the human factor" in baseball umpiring), but with a recognition that it will never be perfect.

Unless there is a clear pattern of bad calls against a team, there is no reason to get up in arms, you just have to deal with it.


I got my masters at a D3 school (Go St. John Fisher!) and I so love that at level you just need to deal with the call on the field and not wait 5m for a call.
 
2020-09-28 2:07:13 PM  

Dr.Fey: Not sure you "deserve" anything when you are trailing 28-3 during an NFL game.


I can think of a team that felt they deserved something when trailing 28-3.
 
2020-09-28 2:09:18 PM  
DPI?  No.  Illegal contact downfield?  Yes.  Though the difference is in yardage (half the distance that deep in Rams territory vs. 5 yards), it still would result in an automatic first down.
 
2020-09-28 2:24:12 PM  

dark brew: phimuskapsi: fastfxr: It's true--the refs gave the game to Buffalo. LA had the Bills stopped dead.
Ref steps in, calls a bogus PI, and gives Buffalo 1st n goal on the 1.
I watched it and it was BS.

[Fark user image 850x337]

Note the contact, note the position passed the LOS. 8-10 yards down the line. 5 yards is the rule.

Lol.  If that potato screenshot is the best you got, you got nothing.  Be happy with the gift win, no need to try and defend it so bad.  The Bills are an ok team.  They'll probably make the playoffs.  Mazel tov


Plenty of refs and announcers agree that the call could be made easily. 

That's the best video I could find at the time. Here's something better, note where the blue line is that's the LOS. It's defensive holding at best, but because the ball was in the air, it's DPI. Pretty easy case.

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2020-09-28 2:39:23 PM  
The Rams player probably caused it by hopping away and doing that "I wasn't touching him AT ALL!" pose. That's like telling the refs you were doing DPI.
 
2020-09-28 4:05:23 PM  

puffy999: Rams still owe the world after stealing a win and then shiatting the bed in the Owl.


I'm with ya, but I'd put that shiatting of the bed on Certified Offensive Genius Sean McVay, not on all the Rams. Wade Phillips and their defense were more than good enough to win that game had their offense done...anything...
 
2020-09-28 4:25:24 PM  

phimuskapsi: dark brew: phimuskapsi: fastfxr: It's true--the refs gave the game to Buffalo. LA had the Bills stopped dead.
Ref steps in, calls a bogus PI, and gives Buffalo 1st n goal on the 1.
I watched it and it was BS.

[Fark user image 850x337]

Note the contact, note the position passed the LOS. 8-10 yards down the line. 5 yards is the rule.

Lol.  If that potato screenshot is the best you got, you got nothing.  Be happy with the gift win, no need to try and defend it so bad.  The Bills are an ok team.  They'll probably make the playoffs.  Mazel tov

Plenty of refs and announcers agree that the call could be made easily. 

That's the best video I could find at the time. Here's something better, note where the blue line is that's the LOS. It's defensive holding at best, but because the ball was in the air, it's DPI. Pretty easy case.

[Fark user image 850x438]


Just as a note, if it were the other way round, and it was the Rams that got the call - I'd be fuming too. At the same time, I feel no sympathy because the stolen int totally changed the second half, and it's not like the Rams haven't benefitted from those kinds of calls, or lack thereof. lol.
 
2020-09-29 12:47:08 AM  

Killer Cars: puffy999: Rams still owe the world after stealing a win and then shiatting the bed in the Owl.

I'm with ya, but I'd put that shiatting of the bed on Certified Offensive Genius Sean McVay, not on all the Rams. Wade Phillips and their defense were more than good enough to win that game had their offense done...anything...


Oh, definitely.

Worst SB play calling I've ever seen. And it was even worse knowing they paid Goff big boy money... But, then again, he's not the only overpaid guy out there.
 
2020-09-29 12:47:57 AM  
Yes, worse than the FailCons.

At least they TRIED to score, for part of the game.
 
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