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(Twitter)   The Pope: "It has become evident that those who do not pay taxes do not only commit a felony but also a crime: if there are not enough hospital beds and artificial respirators, it is also their fault." Holy shiat   (twitter.com) divider line
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2020-09-27 9:54:39 PM  
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2020-09-27 10:16:23 PM  
Well, that puts a new spin on the "Democrats are anti-Catholic" nonsense they've been trying to spin up for the last couple days.
 
2020-09-27 10:38:34 PM  
Those superstitious rape-enablers will vote Trump in droves no matter what Francis says.
 
2020-09-27 10:47:50 PM  
Dayum.
 
2020-09-27 10:49:48 PM  
Jesus paid his taxes.
 
2020-09-27 10:56:47 PM  
The head of the largest criminal syndicate in the world should not be handing out moral advice to anyone else.
 
2020-09-27 10:57:33 PM  

Scar4711: Jesus paid his taxes.


There'd be a lot of bankers with whipped asses if he came back today.
 
2020-09-27 11:09:23 PM  

enry: Scar4711: Jesus paid his taxes.

There'd be a lot of bankers with whipped asses if he came back today.


Lots of Prosperity Gospel preachers with whip welts, I'd say.  The bankers aren't actually right there in the temple.
 
2020-09-27 11:10:50 PM  
I do believe that is a Pope-burn!
 
2020-09-27 11:15:23 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: enry: Scar4711: Jesus paid his taxes.

There'd be a lot of bankers with whipped asses if he came back today.

Lots of Prosperity Gospel preachers with whip welts, I'd say.  The bankers aren't actually right there in the temple.


Oh especially those asshats.
 
2020-09-28 12:16:20 AM  
You're God damned right.

...
Oh, dude, sorry Mr. P. My bad.
 
2020-09-28 12:33:59 AM  

Scar4711: Jesus paid his taxes.


And said some crap about rendering salads!
WE SHOULD DO THE STUFF!
 
2020-09-28 12:50:47 AM  

Markoff_Cheney: Scar4711: Jesus paid his taxes.

And said some crap about rendering salads!
WE SHOULD DO THE STUFF!


Not a big fan of money changers either
 
2020-09-28 2:11:27 AM  

IrishinTexas: The head of the largest criminal syndicate in the world should not be handing out moral advice to anyone else.


HEY NOW, that's uncalled for.  Pope Francis has done a lot to reform the Catholic Church, legitimize it, and make it mainstream.  You know, like Michael Corleone did with the family business.
 
2020-09-28 2:13:52 AM  
One year I had to pay a tax bill so large my bank called to verify the check I wrote for $300k was valid.

In the last decade alone I've contributed more to this country financially than the entire bloodline of the trump family.
 
2020-09-28 2:52:07 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Those superstitious rape-enablers will vote Trump in droves no matter what Francis says.


White Male Catholics will break for DT. Other Catholics will break for Biden. Biden will probably take the majority.
 
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2020-09-28 3:15:22 AM  
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2020-09-28 3:17:59 AM  
Trump is part of the 47%
 
2020-09-28 3:19:42 AM  
Start excommunicating Catholic authority figures who choose politics over their faith and give the FBI ALL information regarding any sexual criminal behavior within the church and I might consider giving a rats ass what the pope says.
 
2020-09-28 3:22:18 AM  

IrishinTexas: The head of the largest criminal syndicate in the world should not be handing out moral advice to anyone else.


I agree.  Trump should keep his yap shut.
 
2020-09-28 3:24:24 AM  

Cubansaltyballs: One year I had to pay a tax bill so large my bank called to verify the check I wrote for $300k was valid.

In the last decade alone I've contributed more to this country financially than the entire bloodline of the trump family.


You need to fire your accountant.
 
2020-09-28 3:24:28 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: enry: Scar4711: Jesus paid his taxes.

There'd be a lot of bankers with whipped asses if he came back today.

Lots of Prosperity Gospel preachers with whip welts, I'd say.  The bankers aren't actually right there in the temple.


Prosperity Gospel is what makes me think I must still be some weird flavor of christian, deep down, because I don't think they'd make me SO farkING ANGRYif I weren't.

/Grew up in the UCC, a verrryyy left-leaning church. Prior to Obgerfell, they sued the state of NC, arguing it's gay marriage ban was infringing on their right to practice, AND WON.
//Hell, UCC churches were arguing that homosexuality was not only not a sin, but a perfectly natural expression of human love in the 60's, which frankly wasn't even a popular *secular* opinion at the time...
 
2020-09-28 3:27:09 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: enry: Scar4711: Jesus paid his taxes.

There'd be a lot of bankers with whipped asses if he came back today.

Lots of Prosperity Gospel preachers with whip welts, I'd say.  The bankers aren't actually right there in the temple.


It wasn't actaully that the money-changers were doing their trade on the temple lot as much as it was them over charging on sacrificial animals so that the poor were forced to pay goat prices for doves.

He probably would not be a fan of rich people buying cheap homes for $800 a month and charging $2000 a month, which is more than the mortgage on a large new home, to poor people to live in them.
 
2020-09-28 3:27:15 AM  
FAKE POPE!
 
2020-09-28 3:28:05 AM  

Scar4711: Jesus paid his taxes.


Yep. "Render unto Caesar" and all that.

Yeshua ben Joseph wasn't a huge fan of the moneylenders, as I recall, though.
 
2020-09-28 3:29:54 AM  
What's next, the head of the Church of Scientology laying a smackdown on him? Maybe a multilevel marketing CEO can tell everyone he's a bad businessman? The pope telling us that Trump is immoral, especially in regards to taxes, is so farking ironic it broke the needle on my irony meter.
 
2020-09-28 3:34:35 AM  
Republicans to hate all Catholics in 3...2...1...
 
2020-09-28 3:37:47 AM  

Murkanen: Cubansaltyballs: One year I had to pay a tax bill so large my bank called to verify the check I wrote for $300k was valid.

In the last decade alone I've contributed more to this country financially than the entire bloodline of the trump family.

You need to fire your accountant.


I actually had a really awesome accountant. I just had a REALLY good f-ing year.

Paying the tax bill stung for a second, but then I went to the bar and imagined a new life with the bartender and her glorious titties and I didn't feel so bad.
 
2020-09-28 3:38:35 AM  
so when are the Churches going to start paying taxes?
 
2020-09-28 3:40:36 AM  

winedrinkingman: Benevolent Misanthrope: enry: Scar4711: Jesus paid his taxes.

There'd be a lot of bankers with whipped asses if he came back today.

Lots of Prosperity Gospel preachers with whip welts, I'd say.  The bankers aren't actually right there in the temple.

It wasn't actaully that the money-changers were doing their trade on the temple lot as much as it was them over charging on sacrificial animals so that the poor were forced to pay goat prices for doves.

He probably would not be a fan of rich people buying cheap homes for $800 a month and charging $2000 a month, which is more than the mortgage on a large new home, to poor people to live in them.


Did you get dropped on your head? First of all if someone can afford to pay $2000 a month in rent in almost every part of the country they are not "poor".

Secondly, I bought a home in 2010 and the mortgage is $1400 a month. I rent it out for $2400 a month (very fair for it's location).  Am I evil? If so, why? If not, what is the rent I would need to charge to become evil?

Also, I am not at all "rich".

In addition, the people who I rent to generally are not in a financial position to buy a home, so the way I see it I am providing a service to them. Just like when I rented for a decade because I was not in a position to buy.
 
2020-09-28 3:40:51 AM  

Dave The Slushy: Republicans to hate all Catholics in 3...2...1...


What will a nominee to SCOTUS do?

Oh.. yeah...she'll side with the tax cheat, of course.
 
2020-09-28 3:41:41 AM  

notmyjab: Dave The Slushy: Republicans to hate all Catholics in 3...2...1...

What will a nominee to SCOTUS do?

Oh.. yeah...she'll side with the tax cheat, of course.


She will keep her mouth shut until she's confirmed.
 
2020-09-28 3:43:19 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Those superstitious rape-enablers will vote Trump in droves no matter what Francis says.


Likely...At least for the US Christians, it boils down to one guy saying you can atone for you  sins and earn forgiveness with work and sacrifice, and the other saying nah- you're not even sinning, and patriotic to do anything you want, and a God loves a Patriot. When one is doing things they do not want to admit may be in conflict with Christian teachings, who is more comfortable to vote for?
 
2020-09-28 3:46:04 AM  
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Very much related. America in 2020 is the richest society in history. Every broken subway, crumbling bridge, bankrupt patient, overcrowded classroom and underpaid worker is a deliberate policy choice we make in the service of keeping billionaires from paying taxes and keeping our military contractors from needing to earn their income on the free market.
 
2020-09-28 3:48:10 AM  
Awful lot of shade being thrown at the Pope around here.

The most effective way to silence our guilty conscience is to convince ourselves and others that those we have sinned against are indeed depraved creatures, deserving every punishment, even extermination. We cannot pity those we have wronged, nor can we be indifferent toward them. We must hate and persecute them or else leave the door open to self-contempt.
- Eric Hoffer, American philosopher and recipient of the Presidential Medal of Freedom
 
2020-09-28 3:48:43 AM  

NeedlesslyCanadian: Well, that puts a new spin on the "Democrats are anti-Catholic" nonsense they've been trying to spin up for the last couple days.


They've been saying the Pope is fraudulent and evil for awhile though.
 
2020-09-28 3:50:15 AM  

NeedlesslyCanadian: Well, that puts a new spin on the "Democrats are anti-Catholic" nonsense they've been trying to spin up for the last couple days.


There seem to be a fair amount of Midwestern U.S. Catholics who don't feel like the Pope is even a "real" Catholic.
 
2020-09-28 3:50:16 AM  

enry: Scar4711: Jesus paid his taxes.

There'd be a lot of bankers with whipped asses if he came back today.


There would be another man nailed to a cross if he came back today and the Christians will be the ones that put him there.
 
2020-09-28 3:50:38 AM  

Felgraf: Prosperity Gospel is what makes me think I must still be some weird flavor of christian, deep down, because I don't think they'd make me SO farkING ANGRYif I weren't.


If nothing else, it makes things much more surreal if you were once a Christian, since the process of getting better and recovering from Christianity usually involves becoming informed about what the theology of various groups actually is during your relapses while you're under the illusion that you might just not be the right kind of Christian and that there's probably a reasonably moral sect out there somewhere*.

Because there is nothing weirder than the fact that prosperity gospel was a quantum leap directly from Calvinism.  Nothing.  Even the shiat the schismatic popes pulled never did that much of a farking 180 that fast.


*Spoilers: there isn't.
 
2020-09-28 3:50:50 AM  
He needs a new private secretary just to do mic drops after he speaks.
 
2020-09-28 3:52:03 AM  

fusillade762: FAKE POPE!


And that's more or less exactly what "good Catholics" like Barr and Hannity will respond with.
Hell, in Hannity's case it wouldn't even be the first time.
 
2020-09-28 3:54:30 AM  
Tell that to tech companies.
 
2020-09-28 3:57:52 AM  

jst3p: Also, I am not at all "rich".


If your description of your situation is accurate (I'll allow for the strong possibility that you're just blatantly lying because internet) then that's objectively untrue.

If you own so much property that you make your income simply off of the fact that you own property, you're financially speaking essentially a completely different species than people who actually work for a living or contribute constructively to society in some way.  Specifically, a species that holds arbitrary and unjustified power over them, as if you were over them separated by a vertical gap that they are unable to bridge.

An "upper" "class", if you will.  But that's just some random term I came up with by using the literal dictionary definitions of words, so I'm sure your vague idea that you're somehow spiritually middle class in the depths of your emotional inner life in a way that has no impact on actual reality whatsoever is definitely more important.
 
2020-09-28 3:59:54 AM  

kkinnison: so when are the Churches going to start paying taxes?


So much this.
 
2020-09-28 4:00:51 AM  

jst3p: Did you get dropped on your head? First of all if someone can afford to pay $2000 a month in rent in almost every part of the country they are not "poor".

Secondly, I bought a home in 2010 and the mortgage is $1400 a month. I rent it out for $2400 a month (very fair for it's location).  Am I evil? If so, why? If not, what is the rent I would need to charge to become evil?

Also, I am not at all "rich".

In addition, the people who I rent to generally are not in a financial position to buy a home, so the way I see it I am providing a service to them. Just like when I rented for a decade because I was not in a position to buy.


Landlords aren't providing a service; they're sucking passive income out of people who work. The house exists whether you buy it or not. The tenant wants to live in the house whether you exist or not. The only thing you're doing is putting yourself between the tenants and the property, stuffing $1400 of their wages into your equity and $1000 of their wages into your pockets every month, with your purported moral justification as they're "not in a financial position" to buy their own property...even though they're actually the ones whose money is paying down your mortgage and paying your own living expenses to boot.

(Gotta love the shifting goalposts between someone bragging about their thousands of dollars of passive income every month saying "I'm not at all rich", while arguing it's perfectly fine to leech that much money out of working people, because the fact any given tenant has so far survived their slumlord rent gouging without becoming homeless means they're obviously "not poor" yet.)
 
2020-09-28 4:04:00 AM  

Scar4711: Jesus paid his taxes.


christ was greek, jesus wasn't

/ergo
//jesus wasn't christ
 
2020-09-28 4:06:41 AM  
christ what an asshole
 
2020-09-28 4:08:50 AM  

Jim_Callahan: jst3p: Also, I am not at all "rich".

If your description of your situation is accurate (I'll allow for the strong possibility that you're just blatantly lying because internet) then that's objectively untrue.

If you own so much property that you make your income simply off of the fact that you own property, you're financially speaking essentially a completely different species than people who actually work for a living or contribute constructively to society in some way.  Specifically, a species that holds arbitrary and unjustified power over them, as if you were over them separated by a vertical gap that they are unable to bridge.

An "upper" "class", if you will.  But that's just some random term I came up with by using the literal dictionary definitions of words, so I'm sure your vague idea that you're somehow spiritually middle class in the depths of your emotional inner life in a way that has no impact on actual reality whatsoever is definitely more important.


You are completely wrong. I have a regular 9-5, the rental property is a matter of circumstance. I bought it in 2010. My now fiancé moved in in 2011 and in 2012 we bought a home together. Having only "owned" the property for 2 years means that my down payment and the mortgage payments I had made thus far were almost only paying interest, not principal. So we decided to rent it out.

In the last eight years the difference between the rent and the mortgage have not covered the maintenance I have had to put into the house, the largest expense being the 5k I paid to replace the central AC unit.

It is true that the equity in the house has increased, and that is a financial benefit that I will realize someday but to say that my rental property provides me "income" is not entirely accurate as so far I am, cash wise, in the red or barely breaking even on the prospect while, as I mentioned before, making it possible for families that can't own a home to put a roof over their head.

If you think this makes me "rich" you have a complete lack of experience and understanding of how ANY of this works.
 
2020-09-28 4:09:01 AM  
I wonder how thoroughly the Pope gets vetted? He seems to be a good man and genuinely believes the poor are ill-served. But it makes you wonder about whether he is allowed financial discretion. The Church as an institution may take spiritual direction from him - and in other matters may have little say at all.

I appreciate his good intentions and deeds - and in this case, he makes the case that withholding legal taxes is stealing from the poor. And Jesus said almost the same thing. There are some Christians that will not be happy. Fark 'em.
 
2020-09-28 4:10:26 AM  

pkjun: jst3p: Did you get dropped on your head? First of all if someone can afford to pay $2000 a month in rent in almost every part of the country they are not "poor".

Secondly, I bought a home in 2010 and the mortgage is $1400 a month. I rent it out for $2400 a month (very fair for it's location).  Am I evil? If so, why? If not, what is the rent I would need to charge to become evil?

Also, I am not at all "rich".

In addition, the people who I rent to generally are not in a financial position to buy a home, so the way I see it I am providing a service to them. Just like when I rented for a decade because I was not in a position to buy.

Landlords aren't providing a service; they're sucking passive income out of people who work. The house exists whether you buy it or not. The tenant wants to live in the house whether you exist or not. The only thing you're doing is putting yourself between the tenants and the property, stuffing $1400 of their wages into your equity and $1000 of their wages into your pockets every month, with your purported moral justification as they're "not in a financial position" to buy their own property...even though they're actually the ones whose money is paying down your mortgage and paying your own living expenses to boot.

(Gotta love the shifting goalposts between someone bragging about their thousands of dollars of passive income every month saying "I'm not at all rich", while arguing it's perfectly fine to leech that much money out of working people, because the fact any given tenant has so far survived their slumlord rent gouging without becoming homeless means they're obviously "not poor" yet.)


You also have no idea what you are talking about. See my last post as to why.
 
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