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2020-09-27 10:20:14 PM  
In her whopping 40-page dissent in that case, she laid out why the US has the right to block people who it deems likely to become dependent on public assistance in the future - even if they have never used public assistance in the past.

Meet the RACIST AS HELL "pre-crime" handmaiden.
 
2020-09-27 11:20:09 PM  

Kirablue42: In her whopping 40-page dissent in that case, she laid out why the US has the right to block people who it deems likely to become dependent on public assistance in the future - even if they have never used public assistance in the past.

Meet the RACIST AS HELL "pre-crime" handmaiden.


This is why she "adopted" Haitian children. To block these types of accusations.
She is playing a long game.
 
2020-09-28 12:52:12 AM  

GardenWeasel: Kirablue42: In her whopping 40-page dissent in that case, she laid out why the US has the right to block people who it deems likely to become dependent on public assistance in the future - even if they have never used public assistance in the past.

Meet the RACIST AS HELL "pre-crime" handmaiden.

This is why she "adopted" Haitian children. To block these types of accusations.
She is playing a long game.


We will not attack her adoption record.

We will attack her hatred of women, minorites, choice, equal rights, lgbt rights, voting....etc
 
2020-09-28 3:16:17 AM  
I think she hates herself.  Either that or she's really, really, really, really, stupid.
 
2020-09-28 4:51:28 AM  

GardenWeasel: Kirablue42: In her whopping 40-page dissent in that case, she laid out why the US has the right to block people who it deems likely to become dependent on public assistance in the future - even if they have never used public assistance in the past.

Meet the RACIST AS HELL "pre-crime" handmaiden.

This is why she "adopted" Haitian children. To block these types of accusations.
She is playing a long game.


She adopted them to do house labor.

Like LaVoy Finicum did with all his slaves foster children.
 
2020-09-28 4:51:29 AM  
Donnie doesn't love anyone but himself.  I'm sure McConnell made this choice.
 
2020-09-28 4:59:19 AM  

puffy999: GardenWeasel: Kirablue42: In her whopping 40-page dissent in that case, she laid out why the US has the right to block people who it deems likely to become dependent on public assistance in the future - even if they have never used public assistance in the past.

Meet the RACIST AS HELL "pre-crime" handmaiden.

This is why she "adopted" Haitian children. To block these types of accusations.
She is playing a long game.

She adopted them to do house labor.

Like LaVoy Finicum did with all his slaves foster children.


citation needed.

(dont get me wrong i totally believe you but the wiki doesnt say anything in this regard)
 
2020-09-28 5:06:01 AM  

Father_Jack: puffy999: GardenWeasel: Kirablue42: In her whopping 40-page dissent in that case, she laid out why the US has the right to block people who it deems likely to become dependent on public assistance in the future - even if they have never used public assistance in the past.

Meet the RACIST AS HELL "pre-crime" handmaiden.

This is why she "adopted" Haitian children. To block these types of accusations.
She is playing a long game.

She adopted them to do house labor.

Like LaVoy Finicum did with all his slaves foster children.

citation needed.

(dont get me wrong i totally believe you but the wiki doesnt say anything in this regard)


He was grifting , scroll down to the second section above the video

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n​a​tion-now/2016/01/23/ariz-militia-membe​rs-ore-siege-say-state-took-kids/79240​714/

IDK about slave labour.
 
2020-09-28 5:06:43 AM  
She's just awful.
 
2020-09-28 5:08:00 AM  
You know who should more worried about ACB than immigrants? Evangelicals. Catholics consider them all pseudo-Christian heathens for having rejected the One True Church™ - there's now five Catholics. ACB makes six.

Imagine the right wing freak out if there were 2 let alone 6 of anything other than Christian. Six atheists!
 
2020-09-28 5:08:23 AM  
It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone at this point that Amy Coney Barrett is trash.
 
2020-09-28 5:11:15 AM  

Alphax: I'm sure McConnell made this choice.


I'm guessing Barr (Opus Dei) did.
Both belong to really weird offshoots of Catholicism.
 
2020-09-28 5:19:47 AM  

Kirablue42: In her whopping 40-page dissent in that case, she laid out why the US has the right to block people who it deems likely to become dependent on public assistance in the future - even if they have never used public assistance in the past.

Meet the RACIST AS HELL "pre-crime" handmaiden.


Meh.

1. Any country should be able to unilaterally decide who can become a citizen.

2. If they sign onto any international agreements those should have binding power to some extent.

3. Denying migrants based on the expectation they may need assistance is stupid. But I do think we should have that right.

If the US cannot determine who can become a lapr or citizen, who should be able to? India? China? Honduras? The UK?

The ONLY reasonable answer is us, via our executive and legislative branches as elected by the people.
 
2020-09-28 5:21:19 AM  
Naturalized citizen here, green card 2006, citizen Nov 1, 2016. No way in hell could my wife and I at the time - living on her 13$/hr alone, me with a uhm sketchy employment history at best- have passed a public charge test when I first applied, especially applied to a "possible future". As soon as I got a green card I got a 12$/hr job, we kept our thrifty way of living, she took online school to get a 2 yr degree which promoted her madly at work, I lucked out like hell into a decent white collar desk job myself, we make just over 6 figures combined now and with no kids yeah we pay taxes and a mortgage. (Am aware this bootstrappy tale contains a lot of privilege , and luck with our location/standard of living) When I hear this 'public charge' shiat I am livid.
 
2020-09-28 5:23:18 AM  

gas giant: Alphax: I'm sure McConnell made this choice.

I'm guessing Barr (Opus Dei) did.
Both belong to really weird offshoots of Catholicism.


Barr isn't a decision maker, though.
 
2020-09-28 5:26:08 AM  

GardenWeasel: Kirablue42: In her whopping 40-page dissent in that case, she laid out why the US has the right to block people who it deems likely to become dependent on public assistance in the future - even if they have never used public assistance in the past.

Meet the RACIST AS HELL "pre-crime" handmaiden.

This is why she "adopted" Haitian children. To block these types of accusations.
She is playing a long game.


Considering the "conservative" mindset, it's very likely that she actually has no problem with her children of color because they are hers.  Others can fark off.  They are a weirdly selfish bunch.
 
2020-09-28 5:28:35 AM  
Guaranteed the rated income of a public charge would yield more tax revenue for the United States than it's received from it's current President
 
2020-09-28 5:28:39 AM  

Benalto: Naturalized citizen here, green card 2006, citizen Nov 1, 2016. No way in hell could my wife and I at the time - living on her 13$/hr alone, me with a uhm sketchy employment history at best- have passed a public charge test when I first applied, especially applied to a "possible future". As soon as I got a green card I got a 12$/hr job, we kept our thrifty way of living, she took online school to get a 2 yr degree which promoted her madly at work, I lucked out like hell into a decent white collar desk job myself, we make just over 6 figures combined now and with no kids yeah we pay taxes and a mortgage. (Am aware this bootstrappy tale contains a lot of privilege , and luck with our location/standard of living) When I hear this 'public charge' shiat I am livid.


six figgas in iowa prolly aint a bad livin, if one can see passed the whole "living in iowa" part.

good on you and yours for makin the Dream, mate!

where you from originally?
 
2020-09-28 5:31:54 AM  

Father_Jack: Benalto: Naturalized citizen here, green card 2006, citizen Nov 1, 2016. No way in hell could my wife and I at the time - living on her 13$/hr alone, me with a uhm sketchy employment history at best- have passed a public charge test when I first applied, especially applied to a "possible future". As soon as I got a green card I got a 12$/hr job, we kept our thrifty way of living, she took online school to get a 2 yr degree which promoted her madly at work, I lucked out like hell into a decent white collar desk job myself, we make just over 6 figures combined now and with no kids yeah we pay taxes and a mortgage. (Am aware this bootstrappy tale contains a lot of privilege , and luck with our location/standard of living) When I hear this 'public charge' shiat I am livid.

six figgas in iowa prolly aint a bad livin, if one can see passed the whole "living in iowa" part.

good on you and yours for makin the Dream, mate!

where you from originally?


Canuckistan!
 
2020-09-28 5:33:52 AM  

vrax: GardenWeasel: Kirablue42: In her whopping 40-page dissent in that case, she laid out why the US has the right to block people who it deems likely to become dependent on public assistance in the future - even if they have never used public assistance in the past.

Meet the RACIST AS HELL "pre-crime" handmaiden.

This is why she "adopted" Haitian children. To block these types of accusations.
She is playing a long game.

Considering the "conservative" mindset, it's very likely that she actually has no problem with her children of color because they are hers.  Others can fark off.  They are a weirdly selfish bunch.


I wondering was there some kind of dowry involved with her adoptions or a guarantee that these kids would never become dependent on the state? I mean, if she believes that the state has a right to deny because of a possibility of future dependence what metrics make her kids an exception?
 
2020-09-28 5:34:41 AM  

Benalto: Father_Jack: Benalto: Naturalized citizen here, green card 2006, citizen Nov 1, 2016. No way in hell could my wife and I at the time - living on her 13$/hr alone, me with a uhm sketchy employment history at best- have passed a public charge test when I first applied, especially applied to a "possible future". As soon as I got a green card I got a 12$/hr job, we kept our thrifty way of living, she took online school to get a 2 yr degree which promoted her madly at work, I lucked out like hell into a decent white collar desk job myself, we make just over 6 figures combined now and with no kids yeah we pay taxes and a mortgage. (Am aware this bootstrappy tale contains a lot of privilege , and luck with our location/standard of living) When I hear this 'public charge' shiat I am livid.

six figgas in iowa prolly aint a bad livin, if one can see passed the whole "living in iowa" part.

good on you and yours for makin the Dream, mate!

where you from originally?

Canuckistan!


how BORING.

Besides, thats a better country than the USA, gtfo! Go home to your free education and decent health care!
 
2020-09-28 5:43:03 AM  
The disabled are barely tolerated by their host countries. We aren't considered fully human by any country in the world, let alone our own; why does it surprise people that the disabled are confined to their birth country?

If you are wondering how countries would like to treat their own disabled people if they didn't have to keep up appearances, see how they treat disabled people coming from other countries. No one likes us disabled people. At all.
 
2020-09-28 5:44:01 AM  
Waiting for Justice Kobash to slither his way up
 
2020-09-28 5:44:38 AM  

Father_Jack: Benalto: Father_Jack: Benalto: Naturalized citizen here, green card 2006, citizen Nov 1, 2016. No way in hell could my wife and I at the time - living on her 13$/hr alone, me with a uhm sketchy employment history at best- have passed a public charge test when I first applied, especially applied to a "possible future". As soon as I got a green card I got a 12$/hr job, we kept our thrifty way of living, she took online school to get a 2 yr degree which promoted her madly at work, I lucked out like hell into a decent white collar desk job myself, we make just over 6 figures combined now and with no kids yeah we pay taxes and a mortgage. (Am aware this bootstrappy tale contains a lot of privilege , and luck with our location/standard of living) When I hear this 'public charge' shiat I am livid.

six figgas in iowa prolly aint a bad livin, if one can see passed the whole "living in iowa" part.

good on you and yours for makin the Dream, mate!

where you from originally?

Canuckistan!

how BORING.

Besides, thats a better country than the USA, gtfo! Go home to your free education and decent health care!


I figured it out and to live with our same standard of living we'd have to make about 2.5x as much where I'm from where the average job pays....not that good. And the jobs we do are non existent. Ehhhh there are a lot of reasons why we didn't immigrate to Canada (we actually tried at one point) but the funniest is the one 18 month period she was in Canada it hit -30 on Halloween and didn't get warmer than -25, with weeks of -40 and worse, until late April.
She said "fark this"
 
2020-09-28 5:45:27 AM  

Kirablue42: In her whopping 40-page dissent in that case, she laid out why the US has the right to block people who it deems likely to become dependent on public assistance in the future - even if they have never used public assistance in the past.

Meet the RACIST AS HELL "pre-crime" handmaiden.


A good example: This post implies that being dependant on public assistance is criminal. The disabled sometimes need public assistance, therefore, to say this is a pre-crime allegation is to say that the disabled are criminals who leech off their host country like a parasite.

/to be fair, I'd say that's accurate in my case, but other disabled people are not parasites
 
2020-09-28 5:50:32 AM  

Father_Jack: puffy999: GardenWeasel: Kirablue42: In her whopping 40-page dissent in that case, she laid out why the US has the right to block people who it deems likely to become dependent on public assistance in the future - even if they have never used public assistance in the past.

Meet the RACIST AS HELL "pre-crime" handmaiden.

This is why she "adopted" Haitian children. To block these types of accusations.
She is playing a long game.

She adopted them to do house labor.

Like LaVoy Finicum did with all his slaves foster children.

citation needed.

(dont get me wrong i totally believe you but the wiki doesnt say anything in this regard)


You know, I have to correct myself (another poster covered the Finicum thing):

I don't KNOW she used these adopted kids for slave labor. For all I know, she could have adopted them because of publicity.

But her religion, on top of the secrecy of her taboo cult, makes me think they were for chores. Or worse. ... Not that Trump or outlier Catholics would do that.
 
2020-09-28 5:52:54 AM  

Benalto: figured it out and to live with our same standard of living we'd have to make about 2.5x as much where I'm from where the average job pays....not that good. And the jobs we do are non existent. Ehhhh there are a lot of reasons why we didn't immigrate to Canada (we actually tried at one point) but the funniest is the one 18 month period she was in Canada it hit -30 on Halloween and didn't get warmer than -25, with weeks of -40 and worse, until late April.
She said "fark this"


so you're from Moose Jaw. Or somewhere else where you have to land by pontoon plane. Or maybe just northern Saskatchewan. Got it.

And yes i can empathize, weather that extreme you cant put up with it unless its all you've known. I have that to some extent in my own precious snowflake kind of way here in Europe too. As a native Southern Californian, if i dont see the sunshine a few days a week after a week or so i am a total basket case, its pathetic.

Maybe just go to Vancouver? Not so bad weather there, west coast vibe, loads of jobs! Hell, probably better weather than where y'all are at now.

But well, yeah the cheap as dirt midwest has its appeal to some. I'd be curious to visit Iowa, it seems to be one of those "up and coming" states that's gradually getting civilised with infusions of Blue State kids who dont want to pay 3k for an 800sqft apt any more but still have degrees and decent jobs. Like Austin was 10 years ago maybe? Doesnt google have a data center there now?
 
2020-09-28 5:57:29 AM  
Well, this might have something to do with her views:

Amy Coney Barrett & People of Praise: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know


But Trump chose here, and it's a safe bet she was shoved in his face by other people, so that's all you really need to know.
 
2020-09-28 5:59:57 AM  

Alphax: gas giant: Alphax: I'm sure McConnell made this choice.

I'm guessing Barr (Opus Dei) did.
Both belong to really weird offshoots of Catholicism.

Barr isn't a decision maker, though.


True, but I doubt his recommendations are ignored.
 
2020-09-28 6:03:09 AM  

Benalto: Father_Jack: Benalto: Father_Jack: Benalto: Naturalized citizen here, green card 2006, citizen Nov 1, 2016. No way in hell could my wife and I at the time - living on her 13$/hr alone, me with a uhm sketchy employment history at best- have passed a public charge test when I first applied, especially applied to a "possible future". As soon as I got a green card I got a 12$/hr job, we kept our thrifty way of living, she took online school to get a 2 yr degree which promoted her madly at work, I lucked out like hell into a decent white collar desk job myself, we make just over 6 figures combined now and with no kids yeah we pay taxes and a mortgage. (Am aware this bootstrappy tale contains a lot of privilege , and luck with our location/standard of living) When I hear this 'public charge' shiat I am livid.

six figgas in iowa prolly aint a bad livin, if one can see passed the whole "living in iowa" part.

good on you and yours for makin the Dream, mate!

where you from originally?

Canuckistan!

how BORING.

Besides, thats a better country than the USA, gtfo! Go home to your free education and decent health care!

I figured it out and to live with our same standard of living we'd have to make about 2.5x as much where I'm from where the average job pays....not that good. And the jobs we do are non existent. Ehhhh there are a lot of reasons why we didn't immigrate to Canada (we actually tried at one point) but the funniest is the one 18 month period she was in Canada it hit -30 on Halloween and didn't get warmer than -25, with weeks of -40 and worse, until late April.
She said "fark this"


Uh....
Those temperatures aren't exactly representative of the vast majority of inhabited Canada. You gotta work pretty hard to live in a place that gets that cold for that long.
 
2020-09-28 6:03:50 AM  

Pichu0102: A good example: This post implies that being dependant on public assistance is criminal. The disabled sometimes need public assistance, therefore, to say this is a pre-crime allegation is to say that the disabled are criminals who leech off their host country like a parasite.

/to be fair, I'd say that's accurate in my case, but other disabled people are not parasites


the whole implicit "public service consumption is wrong" is one of the most farked up things the Right ever got adopted into the mainstream. Thats what those services are for, that's why they were set up to begin with! To be farking consumed!

Th
ere was a time when people used to have solidarity for one another an dhelp eachother out, and want to lift people out of poverty, and were happy to pay taxes so that others might have a second chance, or a better future for their kids, or help the immigrants integrate.

There's been this embedded shame put into the US that if you use the safety nets that are there (which are bullshiat and barely work anyway) you must be a bad person, and that's terrible.

I've worked my whole life but i've been laid off a time or two, why should i feel bad for using unemployment for a few months, i've paid into it since i was 16! And to those who say "but what about those who never pay in?" my answer is "there is waste in every system and every society, and the waste we tolerate in military spending, war fighting, tax cuts for rich people who dont need them etc is infinitely greater than letting some single mom get an extra 200 a month".

Americans hate each other in a way i've never seen in other places i've lived (lived and gone to schol in 4 countries)

Hell here in germany for 30 years we've been paying the "solidarity tax" ostensibly to modernize the former east germany to western standards, and now that that is done, the money is used to fund reconstruction and modernization projects in other parts of germany (not just the former east) to help rebuild infrastructure, schools etc... and the germans grumble about it to some extent, but are obliging. Why? because they recognize a rising tide floats all boats. Its better to have fewer rich people and fewer poor people, than to have a small percent of hugely wealthy and a larger percentage of poorer people.
 
2020-09-28 6:05:15 AM  

Father_Jack: Benalto: figured it out and to live with our same standard of living we'd have to make about 2.5x as much where I'm from where the average job pays....not that good. And the jobs we do are non existent. Ehhhh there are a lot of reasons why we didn't immigrate to Canada (we actually tried at one point) but the funniest is the one 18 month period she was in Canada it hit -30 on Halloween and didn't get warmer than -25, with weeks of -40 and worse, until late April.
She said "fark this"

so you're from Moose Jaw. Or somewhere else where you have to land by pontoon plane. Or maybe just northern Saskatchewan. Got it.

And yes i can empathize, weather that extreme you cant put up with it unless its all you've known. I have that to some extent in my own precious snowflake kind of way here in Europe too. As a native Southern Californian, if i dont see the sunshine a few days a week after a week or so i am a total basket case, its pathetic.

Maybe just go to Vancouver? Not so bad weather there, west coast vibe, loads of jobs! Hell, probably better weather than where y'all are at now.

But well, yeah the cheap as dirt midwest has its appeal to some. I'd be curious to visit Iowa, it seems to be one of those "up and coming" states that's gradually getting civilised with infusions of Blue State kids who dont want to pay 3k for an 800sqft apt any more but still have degrees and decent jobs. Like Austin was 10 years ago maybe? Doesnt google have a data center there now?


Des Moines is pretty blue though holy crap there's still lots of Trump/Pence signs around here, and the metro area is made out of all these suburbs encroaching on small towns and those are all full of trashy people. But Des Moines is getting to be like a little Austin. Kinda? Vancouver and Toronto are two places where OWNING A HOME like we do now with mortgage being....26% or whatever of our monthly income? - is a pipe dream. We committed and here we are now with our six cats.
 
2020-09-28 6:11:26 AM  

GardenWeasel: Kirablue42: In her whopping 40-page dissent in that case, she laid out why the US has the right to block people who it deems likely to become dependent on public assistance in the future - even if they have never used public assistance in the past.

Meet the RACIST AS HELL "pre-crime" handmaiden.

This is why she "adopted" Haitian children. To block these types of accusations.
She is playing a long game.


I would like to know more about the candidate,and let the next POTUS fill the seat.  Legally speaking it is Donald Trump's to fill, and it looks like he has the senate votes to do so.
Having said that, so many of his picks and associates are in prison for crimes, and he is 100% compromised by his debts and looming IRS fines I do question this choice as well.  Remember Kavanaugh?  He had something like $200,000 in credit card debt from in his words "buying too many MLB tickets for his friends who didn't pay him back".  That debt mysteriously disappeared once he became the front runner for the seat.  Call me crazy but that is corrupt as hell.  So how many dead kids does Barrett have buried in shallow graves in her garden?
 
2020-09-28 6:12:57 AM  

MillionDollarMo: Benalto: Father_Jack: Benalto: Father_Jack: Benalto: Naturalized citizen here, green card 2006, citizen Nov 1, 2016. No way in hell could my wife and I at the time - living on her 13$/hr alone, me with a uhm sketchy employment history at best- have passed a public charge test when I first applied, especially applied to a "possible future". As soon as I got a green card I got a 12$/hr job, we kept our thrifty way of living, she took online school to get a 2 yr degree which promoted her madly at work, I lucked out like hell into a decent white collar desk job myself, we make just over 6 figures combined now and with no kids yeah we pay taxes and a mortgage. (Am aware this bootstrappy tale contains a lot of privilege , and luck with our location/standard of living) When I hear this 'public charge' shiat I am livid.

six figgas in iowa prolly aint a bad livin, if one can see passed the whole "living in iowa" part.

good on you and yours for makin the Dream, mate!

where you from originally?

Canuckistan!

how BORING.

Besides, thats a better country than the USA, gtfo! Go home to your free education and decent health care!

I figured it out and to live with our same standard of living we'd have to make about 2.5x as much where I'm from where the average job pays....not that good. And the jobs we do are non existent. Ehhhh there are a lot of reasons why we didn't immigrate to Canada (we actually tried at one point) but the funniest is the one 18 month period she was in Canada it hit -30 on Halloween and didn't get warmer than -25, with weeks of -40 and worse, until late April.
She said "fark this"

Uh....
Those temperatures aren't exactly representative of the vast majority of inhabited Canada. You gotta work pretty hard to live in a place that gets that cold for that long.


That is what is so funny, that was back in the 90s. While it is a cold part, and touches -30, -40 on occasion, WE were all whining about that winter. My DAD was whining about that winter. My wife's "winter jacket" she had was a complete joke. Now, 25 years of global warming later, my brother complains his kids can't go skating like we used to in the public rinks in December
 
2020-09-28 6:40:44 AM  

Alphax: Donnie doesn't love anyone but himself.  I'm sure McConnell made this choice.


Her anti-immigrant stance makes me suspect otherwise.

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2020-09-28 6:42:02 AM  

Benalto: MillionDollarMo: Benalto: Father_Jack: Benalto: Father_Jack: Benalto: Naturalized citizen here, green card 2006, citizen Nov 1, 2016. No way in hell could my wife and I at the time - living on her 13$/hr alone, me with a uhm sketchy employment history at best- have passed a public charge test when I first applied, especially applied to a "possible future". As soon as I got a green card I got a 12$/hr job, we kept our thrifty way of living, she took online school to get a 2 yr degree which promoted her madly at work, I lucked out like hell into a decent white collar desk job myself, we make just over 6 figures combined now and with no kids yeah we pay taxes and a mortgage. (Am aware this bootstrappy tale contains a lot of privilege , and luck with our location/standard of living) When I hear this 'public charge' shiat I am livid.

six figgas in iowa prolly aint a bad livin, if one can see passed the whole "living in iowa" part.

good on you and yours for makin the Dream, mate!

where you from originally?

Canuckistan!

how BORING.

Besides, thats a better country than the USA, gtfo! Go home to your free education and decent health care!

I figured it out and to live with our same standard of living we'd have to make about 2.5x as much where I'm from where the average job pays....not that good. And the jobs we do are non existent. Ehhhh there are a lot of reasons why we didn't immigrate to Canada (we actually tried at one point) but the funniest is the one 18 month period she was in Canada it hit -30 on Halloween and didn't get warmer than -25, with weeks of -40 and worse, until late April.
She said "fark this"

Uh....
Those temperatures aren't exactly representative of the vast majority of inhabited Canada. You gotta work pretty hard to live in a place that gets that cold for that long.

That is what is so funny, that was back in the 90s. While it is a cold part, and touches -30, -40 on occasion, WE were all whining about that winter. My DAD was whining about that winter. My wife's "winter jacket" she had was a complete joke. Now, 25 years of global warming later, my brother complains his kids can't go skating like we used to in the public rinks in December


Oooh, yeah I remember those days. Skating on the river by Christmas.

Still got right hot in my (former) neck of the woods in summertime so I can't say I've ever seen a stretch of winter longer than six months, which is a fairly normal length for the further north place I live now.
 
2020-09-28 6:42:20 AM  
Meh. Many "enlightened" western socialist nations block people from immigrating based on strict income requirements and place rules against the use of public services by fresh immigrants. It's not right morally but it's fair given limited resources in the real world.
 
2020-09-28 7:26:46 AM  
Can we deport Republicans who represent an undue burden to taxpayers?
 
2020-09-28 7:29:03 AM  

PaulRB: I think she hates herself.  Either that or she's really, really, really, really, stupid.


Why not both?
 
2020-09-28 7:41:00 AM  

Benalto: MillionDollarMo: Benalto: Father_Jack: Benalto: Father_Jack: Benalto: Naturalized citizen here, green card 2006, citizen Nov 1, 2016. No way in hell could my wife and I at the time - living on her 13$/hr alone, me with a uhm sketchy employment history at best- have passed a public charge test when I first applied, especially applied to a "possible future". As soon as I got a green card I got a 12$/hr job, we kept our thrifty way of living, she took online school to get a 2 yr degree which promoted her madly at work, I lucked out like hell into a decent white collar desk job myself, we make just over 6 figures combined now and with no kids yeah we pay taxes and a mortgage. (Am aware this bootstrappy tale contains a lot of privilege , and luck with our location/standard of living) When I hear this 'public charge' shiat I am livid.

six figgas in iowa prolly aint a bad livin, if one can see passed the whole "living in iowa" part.

good on you and yours for makin the Dream, mate!

where you from originally?

Canuckistan!

how BORING.

Besides, thats a better country than the USA, gtfo! Go home to your free education and decent health care!

I figured it out and to live with our same standard of living we'd have to make about 2.5x as much where I'm from where the average job pays....not that good. And the jobs we do are non existent. Ehhhh there are a lot of reasons why we didn't immigrate to Canada (we actually tried at one point) but the funniest is the one 18 month period she was in Canada it hit -30 on Halloween and didn't get warmer than -25, with weeks of -40 and worse, until late April.
She said "fark this"

Uh....
Those temperatures aren't exactly representative of the vast majority of inhabited Canada. You gotta work pretty hard to live in a place that gets that cold for that long.

That is what is so funny, that was back in the 90s. While it is a cold part, and touches -30, -40 on occasion, WE were all whining about that winter. My DAD was whining about that wi ...


funny, I did the opposite. I immigrated to Canada in 2005, got my permanent residency in 2009, Canadian citizenship in 2014. Im glad I did, even though the weather can be crap in the winter.
 
2020-09-28 7:55:57 AM  

vrax: GardenWeasel: Kirablue42: In her whopping 40-page dissent in that case, she laid out why the US has the right to block people who it deems likely to become dependent on public assistance in the future - even if they have never used public assistance in the past.

Meet the RACIST AS HELL "pre-crime" handmaiden.

This is why she "adopted" Haitian children. To block these types of accusations.
She is playing a long game.

Considering the "conservative" mindset, it's very likely that she actually has no problem with her children of color because they are hers.  Others can fark off.  They are a weirdly selfish bunch.


Family's church is really hard about Haiti. The local area is poor as dirt; do we do local assistance? Nope, all our outreach money goes to Haiti to help them from being dirty heathens.

Local poor kids that have to relay on a couple of cans of soup the school gives them on Friday to eat all weekend, but have Jesus to pray to, but the Haitians? They worship Satan (that's what the church taught us), and need to be helped with food, clothing, and school supplies to feel love love of Christ. I was told helping the poor local kids will just make them reliant on assistance.

Also, the Haitian adoption system is real sketchy. Like they buy kids from poor people and adopt them to rich Americans kinda thing. Know a few people who have adopted from there, and where as one family is kind of racist... Something about them "saving the child from the 'black culture' that leads to all the pitfalls in life." I'm pretty sure that's possibly worse then it even sounds. Other family is pretty nice, but were having issues with American adoption so went with international adoption.
 
2020-09-28 8:17:59 AM  
That is not very Chrostian of her.  She must be one of those cafeteria catholics who only pick out the parts of her faith to follow that she personally likes.
 
2020-09-28 8:19:08 AM  

winedrinkingman: That is not very Chrostian of her.  She must be one of those cafeteria catholics who only pick out the parts of her faith to follow that she personally likes.


How the hell does my phone autocorrect christian into chrostian?  What the hell does it think a chrostian is?
 
2020-09-28 8:21:54 AM  

chrismurphy: You know who should more worried about ACB than immigrants? Evangelicals. Catholics consider them all pseudo-Christian heathens for having rejected the One True Church™ - there's now five Catholics. ACB makes six.

Imagine the right wing freak out if there were 2 let alone 6 of anything other than Christian. Six atheists!


I'm Catholic and I've never heard anyone from priests to fellow Catholics express much of any opinion on Evangelicals.  But that's just my experience.

Quite the opposite, I've had Evangelicals mention to me how much Catholics are all on the hell-bent path for their fascination with saints, Mary and worshipping the anti-christ in Rome. Most Catholics aren't particularly the spreading/prosethyesizing types.... I guess we had already had our phase during the period of Empire or colonialism when folks were forced to become Catholics at cannon or musket point.

However, no doubt the fact is Evangelicals and hardcore Catholics have a ton in common. And I'm willing to bet the Evangelicals are willing to look the other way with their distaste for Catholics in order to get that one extra vote to overturn Roe v Wade. Just my .02
 
2020-09-28 8:22:52 AM  

chrismurphy: You know who should more worried about ACB than immigrants? Evangelicals. Catholics consider them all pseudo-Christian heathens for having rejected the One True Church™ - there's now five Catholics. ACB makes six.

Imagine the right wing freak out if there were 2 let alone 6 of anything other than Christian. Six atheists!


I find it quite amusing that a majority protestant country is judged by catholics and jews. Although there's really not much difference between conservative protestants and catholics, they both hate free women.
 
2020-09-28 8:37:32 AM  
Coney hates immigrants so much she adopted two of them from Haiti...is this really the best you've got????

And practically every country in the world that you ever liked applies means testing and restricts immigration, but somehow it's required that the U.S. have practically open borders.

You tried it in 2016.
You tried it in 2018.

Keep trying.
 
2020-09-28 8:39:36 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: chrismurphy: You know who should more worried about ACB than immigrants? Evangelicals. Catholics consider them all pseudo-Christian heathens for having rejected the One True Church™ - there's now five Catholics. ACB makes six.

Imagine the right wing freak out if there were 2 let alone 6 of anything other than Christian. Six atheists!

I find it quite amusing that a majority protestant country is judged by catholics and jews. Although there's really not much difference between conservative protestants and catholics, they both hate free women.


It is no great mystery.  Catholic universities tend to be very good with first rate law schools.  Catholica also do not send their kids to bible college, or Bob Jones University, BYU and they are probably not great fans of Liberty University.

BYU is probably much better than Bob Jones, but it is no Notre Dame and it sure as hell is not Georgetown.

Too many Evangelicals seem scared that their kids might learn something, and the same applies to Mormons some years but not others, depending on whomever their prophet happens to be at the time.

Other generic protestants seem content with state school.
 
2020-09-28 8:43:01 AM  

Animatronik: Coney hates immigrants so much she adopted two of them from Haiti...is this really the best you've got????

And practically every country in the world that you ever liked applies means testing and restricts immigration, but somehow it's required that the U.S. have practically open borders.

You tried it in 2016.
You tried it in 2018.

Keep trying.


I know lots of racists, especially religious racists, who adopt black kids.  They seem to have this idea that they can magically raise black kids better than black parents, and discipline the black out of them.

I am not saying this is the case here.  Most cross racial adoptions seem to be okay.  Just that I know racists who have done this very thing.
 
2020-09-28 10:50:44 AM  

winedrinkingman: Animatronik: Coney hates immigrants so much she adopted two of them from Haiti...is this really the best you've got????

And practically every country in the world that you ever liked applies means testing and restricts immigration, but somehow it's required that the U.S. have practically open borders.

You tried it in 2016.
You tried it in 2018.

Keep trying.

I know lots of racists, especially religious racists, who adopt black kids.  They seem to have this idea that they can magically raise black kids better than black parents, and discipline the black out of them.

I am not saying this is the case here.  Most cross racial adoptions seem to be okay.  Just that I know racists who have done this very thing.


When you are sure that everybody you disagree with is racist, then even when they do things no racist would do it's somehow proof of racism???

This is like the media ignoring months of riots as a nonstory, at worst some peaceful protest.

If you cover your eyes and ears and turn counterclockwise 3 times, the facts will just go away.
 
2020-09-28 11:15:14 AM  

Smackledorfer: Kirablue42: In her whopping 40-page dissent in that case, she laid out why the US has the right to block people who it deems likely to become dependent on public assistance in the future - even if they have never used public assistance in the past.

Meet the RACIST AS HELL "pre-crime" handmaiden.

Meh.

1. Any country should be able to unilaterally decide who can become a citizen.

2. If they sign onto any international agreements those should have binding power to some extent.

3. Denying migrants based on the expectation they may need assistance is stupid. But I do think we should have that right.

If the US cannot determine who can become a lapr or citizen, who should be able to? India? China? Honduras? The UK?

The ONLY reasonable answer is us, via our executive and legislative branches as elected by the people.


Sure, we technically have the "right" in international law.

It's also unamerican horseshiat and I stand against it.

The plaque doesn't say "Bring me your means-tested 95th percentile citizens, yearning to pay lower taxes", after all.
 
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