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2020-09-27 11:25:35 PM  
It's a feature.
 
2020-09-27 11:25:46 PM  
If by "works," you mean "send the voice to another channel and reinforce supporters' belief while detractors pretend they're the only perspective in the world," then I guess it does "work."
 
2020-09-27 11:26:57 PM  
Pedo Guy Zuckerberg has already made it abundantly clear that he thinks people should be allowed to lie without restriction.
 
2020-09-27 11:31:42 PM  
one edit to bgp tables and we could be rid of facebook for a while.
 
2020-09-27 11:35:15 PM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: If by "works," you mean "send the voice to another channel and reinforce supporters' belief while detractors pretend they're the only perspective in the world," then I guess it does "work."


QAnon is not a voice.  It's a baboon-like screeching.
 
2020-09-27 11:36:02 PM  
I know that Fark prides itself on peeps posting that don't read the article. But I thought that about myself ... until I tried to read that drivel. Even I can not stomach that noise.

/a first time for everything I guess
 
2020-09-27 11:40:23 PM  

assalon5: I know that Fark prides itself on peeps posting that don't read the article. But I thought that about myself ... until I tried to read that drivel. Even I can not stomach that noise.

/a first time for everything I guess


I got as far as it talking about how they torture children to get a drug out of them and started scrolling and skimming after that.

/yikes
 
2020-09-27 11:42:16 PM  
Very easy to deplatform channels hardly anyone was watching in the first place.  Let's see what happens when they try to deplatform something that will actually cost them money.
 
2020-09-27 11:44:16 PM  

gnosis301: fark'emfeed'emfish: If by "works," you mean "send the voice to another channel and reinforce supporters' belief while detractors pretend they're the only perspective in the world," then I guess it does "work."

QAnon is not a voice.  It's a baboon-like screeching.


Sorry, I couldn't hear you over all these cows chewing their cud.
 
2020-09-27 11:44:24 PM  
where we fark one we fark all
 
2020-09-27 11:46:57 PM  

Boo_Guy: assalon5: I know that Fark prides itself on peeps posting that don't read the article. But I thought that about myself ... until I tried to read that drivel. Even I can not stomach that noise.

/a first time for everything I guess

I got as far as it talking about how they torture children to get a drug out of them and started scrolling and skimming after that.

/yikes


The best (worst?) part is that even if the conspiracy were somehow true, a Q clearance (which is a real thing) doesn't grant access to anything remotely resembling that sort of information.
 
2020-09-27 11:48:53 PM  
I never heard of QAnon.
 
2020-09-27 11:57:58 PM  

kdawg7736: I never heard of QAnon.


Lucky you.
 
2020-09-28 12:03:09 AM  

kdawg7736: I never heard of QAnon.


Impossible! They was platformed!!!
 
2020-09-28 12:03:14 AM  
Y'know, I'm glad Twitch has accomplished elimination - or at least a big reduction - in wingnuts by tightening the screws. I have mixed feelings about this, though.

Zuckerberg should have the integrity and courage to do the right thing and block wingnuts, call out lying liars, etc.,

But then again, corporations aren't known for their integrity or courage. The exist to enrich stockholders and, of course, to provide power to their senior executives. Any duty they have to the public is legislated.

Congress is the one we expect to have integrity and courage. THEY should set the standards - or maybe offload that function to some group comprised of free speech people and stop-the-wingnuts people and maybe a couple other constituent groups who can establish and maintain rules for these SOBs who ruin everyone's lives.
 
2020-09-28 12:03:26 AM  
qanon is like ancient aliens.

Its garbage. But some people believe it. But they arent garbage people. They tend to be lonely, or angry, or disenfranchised peoples. Searching for a community where they feel warmth. They are like flat earthers. They arent reprehensible humans. Just idiots. And we are all kindof idiots in our own way. Nobody has all their shiat together. Some are just really good at pretending. So they are idiots. But so is everyone else. Its a cult - it gives you a sense of belonging. It makes sense of a senseless world. It gives community. and it makes the individual feel valued and special.

And those are things we all crave. These people just don't have it.

qanon exists because we are promoting a culture that doesn't include them. And i think its important to realize that 'them' could quickly move to some other 'them'. And since everyone is an idiot to someone else pretty much everyone is vulnerable to both the lure and the public hortation around any real movement. 

Very catch 22. The way out is not acceptance. But its not cancel culture either. Its building better communities where people feel more connected and accepted and less vulnerable to people who would prey on peoples weaknesses.

I guess my point is that qanon might be super evil but the blame really lies with the few originators or knowing participants in the farce. The vast majority of its support is just your derpy idiot neighbors. But dont blame qanon. Blame a society that makes some fragments feel so disenfranchised that the only reasonable solution is a secret cabal of elites raping newborns around a virgin sacrifice.
 
2020-09-28 12:05:03 AM  
I'm imagining a low-tech solution for Qanon
external-content.duckduckgo.comView Full Size
 
2020-09-28 12:08:41 AM  

mikefinch: qanon is like ancient aliens.

Its garbage. But some people believe it. But they arent garbage people. They tend to be lonely, or angry, or disenfranchised peoples. Searching for a community where they feel warmth. They are like flat earthers. They arent reprehensible humans. Just idiots. And we are all kindof idiots in our own way. Nobody has all their shiat together. Some are just really good at pretending. So they are idiots. But so is everyone else. Its a cult - it gives you a sense of belonging. It makes sense of a senseless world. It gives community. and it makes the individual feel valued and special.

And those are things we all crave. These people just don't have it.

qanon exists because we are promoting a culture that doesn't include them. And i think its important to realize that 'them' could quickly move to some other 'them'. And since everyone is an idiot to someone else pretty much everyone is vulnerable to both the lure and the public hortation around any real movement. 

Very catch 22. The way out is not acceptance. But its not cancel culture either. Its building better communities where people feel more connected and accepted and less vulnerable to people who would prey on peoples weaknesses.

I guess my point is that qanon might be super evil but the blame really lies with the few originators or knowing participants in the farce. The vast majority of its support is just your derpy idiot neighbors. But dont blame qanon. Blame a society that makes some fragments feel so disenfranchised that the only reasonable solution is a secret cabal of elites raping newborns around a virgin sacrifice.


You basically summarized how incels are also created...

As well as just about everyone who engages in any sort of severely anti-social behavior, from school shooters to the people that are gang members.
 
2020-09-28 12:09:00 AM  

assalon5: I know that Fark prides itself on peeps posting that don't read the article. But I thought that about myself ... until I tried to read that drivel. Even I can not stomach that noise.

/a first time for everything I guess


Yeah, I got halfway through the article before I closed it. The article was a word count column, but what I did pick up is that Twitch isn't easily exploitable like Facebook and Twitter, though it is vulnerable in its own way. So deplatforming sort of works.

People keep whining about Facebook, but won't leave. I tried Google+, and thought it would have been a good FB alternative, but there weren't many friends on it. I dropped FB even before the Cambridge Anylitica stuff, because I wasn't seeing current postings from my friends and family, and it was causing me issues making me feel inferior to what my friends posted themselves doing. For my mental well-being, I decided I was better off without FB.
 
2020-09-28 12:09:12 AM  

mikefinch: qanon is like ancient aliens.

Its garbage. But some people believe it. But they arent garbage people. They tend to be lonely, or angry, or disenfranchised peoples. Searching for a community where they feel warmth. They are like flat earthers. They arent reprehensible humans. Just idiots. And we are all kindof idiots in our own way. Nobody has all their shiat together. Some are just really good at pretending. So they are idiots. But so is everyone else. Its a cult - it gives you a sense of belonging. It makes sense of a senseless world. It gives community. and it makes the individual feel valued and special.

And those are things we all crave. These people just don't have it.

qanon exists because we are promoting a culture that doesn't include them. And i think its important to realize that 'them' could quickly move to some other 'them'. And since everyone is an idiot to someone else pretty much everyone is vulnerable to both the lure and the public hortation around any real movement. 

Very catch 22. The way out is not acceptance. But its not cancel culture either. Its building better communities where people feel more connected and accepted and less vulnerable to people who would prey on peoples weaknesses.

I guess my point is that qanon might be super evil but the blame really lies with the few originators or knowing participants in the farce. The vast majority of its support is just your derpy idiot neighbors. But dont blame qanon. Blame a society that makes some fragments feel so disenfranchised that the only reasonable solution is a secret cabal of elites raping newborns around a virgin sacrifice.


comparing a sick and twisted personal belief system to a harmless TV show is a bit of a stretch there, Goggles Paisan.
 
2020-09-28 12:12:21 AM  

2chinz: Y'know, I'm glad Twitch has accomplished elimination - or at least a big reduction - in wingnuts by tightening the screws. I have mixed feelings about this, though.

Zuckerberg should have the integrity and courage to do the right thing and block wingnuts, call out lying liars, etc.,

But then again, corporations aren't known for their integrity or courage. The exist to enrich stockholders and, of course, to provide power to their senior executives. Any duty they have to the public is legislated.

Congress is the one we expect to have integrity and courage. THEY should set the standards - or maybe offload that function to some group comprised of free speech people and stop-the-wingnuts people and maybe a couple other constituent groups who can establish and maintain rules for these SOBs who ruin everyone's lives.


farkerberg is compromised with Russian money. He will let them use FB to destabilize governments and corporations as they see fit.
 
2020-09-28 12:14:41 AM  
But....that would mean less profit for Zuck-bot.
 
2020-09-28 12:16:01 AM  

mikefinch: Very catch 22. The way out is not acceptance. But its not cancel culture either. Its building better communities where people feel more connected and accepted and less vulnerable to people who would prey on peoples weaknesses.


I approve of your belief in the destruction of the industrial system.
 
2020-09-28 12:16:08 AM  

Billy Bathsalt: I'm imagining a low-tech solution for Qanon
[external-content.duckduckgo.com image 413x232]


thanksgiving will be fun.
 
2020-09-28 12:18:57 AM  
Identifying and suspending a channel on Twitch:
Fark user imageView Full Size

Meanwhile, on Facebook:
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-09-28 12:19:11 AM  

anfrind: Boo_Guy: assalon5: I know that Fark prides itself on peeps posting that don't read the article. But I thought that about myself ... until I tried to read that drivel. Even I can not stomach that noise.

/a first time for everything I guess

I got as far as it talking about how they torture children to get a drug out of them and started scrolling and skimming after that.

/yikes

The best (worst?) part is that even if the conspiracy were somehow true, a Q clearance (which is a real thing) doesn't grant access to anything remotely resembling that sort of information.


This.  I had always wondered why whoever stared QAnon picked "Q clearance" as their secret squirrel level, as it's strictly a Department of Energy thing.  It's pretty boring and obscure, and mostly just has to do with access to technical data about the bits inside the nuclear warheads (about half of the DOE's job is to maintain the warheads), and has nothing to do whatsoever with anybody that would be investigating global cabals and such.  The only reason I had ever heard of it was that I worked for the DOE for a number of years.  When it came out, I thought it was odd, but just figured it was someone who had worked for them at some point and had seen the phrase on a bulletin board, or presentation slide, or something.

Then, just the other night, I was re-watching Archer, and there was an episode where the Archer bluffs his way through security at Area 51 with a "Q Clearance Code" he stole from a CIA agent. I looked it up, and sure enough, that episode aired about a year before the whole QAnon thing started.

So, yes, the origin of QAnon is most likely...Sterling Archer.
 
2020-09-28 12:19:45 AM  

kdawg7736: I never heard of QAnon.


Be glad. They're like Flat-earthers, moon landing deniers and evangelicals had a titanically stupid baby. That baby is dumber than a Trump.

TLDR Version? They think that Donny is gonna take down an international behind the scenes bad guy group called the Deep State any day now. Aaaany day now.
 
2020-09-28 12:26:09 AM  

Forty-Three: anfrind: Boo_Guy: assalon5: I know that Fark prides itself on peeps posting that don't read the article. But I thought that about myself ... until I tried to read that drivel. Even I can not stomach that noise.

/a first time for everything I guess

I got as far as it talking about how they torture children to get a drug out of them and started scrolling and skimming after that.

/yikes

The best (worst?) part is that even if the conspiracy were somehow true, a Q clearance (which is a real thing) doesn't grant access to anything remotely resembling that sort of information.

This.  I had always wondered why whoever stared QAnon picked "Q clearance" as their secret squirrel level, as it's strictly a Department of Energy thing.  It's pretty boring and obscure, and mostly just has to do with access to technical data about the bits inside the nuclear warheads (about half of the DOE's job is to maintain the warheads), and has nothing to do whatsoever with anybody that would be investigating global cabals and such.  The only reason I had ever heard of it was that I worked for the DOE for a number of years.  When it came out, I thought it was odd, but just figured it was someone who had worked for them at some point and had seen the phrase on a bulletin board, or presentation slide, or something.

Then, just the other night, I was re-watching Archer, and there was an episode where the Archer bluffs his way through security at Area 51 with a "Q Clearance Code" he stole from a CIA agent. I looked it up, and sure enough, that episode aired about a year before the whole QAnon thing started.

So, yes, the origin of QAnon is most likely...Sterling Archer.


First they're tied up in ISIS, and now QAnon?  What's next, Central American Dictators?
 
2020-09-28 12:26:10 AM  

mikefinch: qanon is like ancient aliens.

Its garbage. But some people believe it. But they arent garbage people. They tend to be lonely, or angry, or disenfranchised peoples. Searching for a community where they feel warmth. They are like flat earthers. They arent reprehensible humans. Just idiots. And we are all kindof idiots in our own way. Nobody has all their shiat together. Some are just really good at pretending. So they are idiots. But so is everyone else. Its a cult - it gives you a sense of belonging. It makes sense of a senseless world. It gives community. and it makes the individual feel valued and special.

And those are things we all crave. These people just don't have it.

qanon exists because we are promoting a culture that doesn't include them. And i think its important to realize that 'them' could quickly move to some other 'them'. And since everyone is an idiot to someone else pretty much everyone is vulnerable to both the lure and the public hortation around any real movement. 

Very catch 22. The way out is not acceptance. But its not cancel culture either. Its building better communities where people feel more connected and accepted and less vulnerable to people who would prey on peoples weaknesses.

I guess my point is that qanon might be super evil but the blame really lies with the few originators or knowing participants in the farce. The vast majority of its support is just your derpy idiot neighbors. But dont blame qanon. Blame a society that makes some fragments feel so disenfranchised that the only reasonable solution is a secret cabal of elites raping newborns around a virgin sacrifice.


So people should one chew on approved and sanctioned dribble?
Okay.
But, what if they don't want to? They should just be without?
For like example, if person X wants some odd finish thing that someone else finds racist or sexist that they should just go without that because it's offensive?
(But not illegal)
So basically this is censorship without the government getting involved?
 
2020-09-28 12:27:36 AM  

mikefinch: qanon is like ancient aliens.

Its garbage. But some people believe it. But they arent garbage people. They tend to be lonely, or angry, or disenfranchised peoples. Searching for a community where they feel warmth. They are like flat earthers. They arent reprehensible humans. Just idiots. And we are all kindof idiots in our own way. Nobody has all their shiat together. Some are just really good at pretending. So they are idiots. But so is everyone else. Its a cult - it gives you a sense of belonging. It makes sense of a senseless world. It gives community. and it makes the individual feel valued and special.

And those are things we all crave. These people just don't have it.

qanon exists because we are promoting a culture that doesn't include them. And i think its important to realize that 'them' could quickly move to some other 'them'. And since everyone is an idiot to someone else pretty much everyone is vulnerable to both the lure and the public hortation around any real movement. 

Very catch 22. The way out is not acceptance. But its not cancel culture either. Its building better communities where people feel more connected and accepted and less vulnerable to people who would prey on peoples weaknesses.

I guess my point is that qanon might be super evil but the blame really lies with the few originators or knowing participants in the farce. The vast majority of its support is just your derpy idiot neighbors. But dont blame qanon. Blame a society that makes some fragments feel so disenfranchised that the only reasonable solution is a secret cabal of elites raping newborns around a virgin sacrifice.


qanon
Should sell it self as fiction and their fans are just hardcore like Star wars and Star trek fans.

LOL
Evil Mister Burns voice
Excellent
 
2020-09-28 12:27:56 AM  

Billy Bathsalt: I'm imagining a low-tech solution for Qanon
[external-content.duckduckgo.com image 413x232]


🙄
 
2020-09-28 12:31:30 AM  

skinink: assalon5: I know that Fark prides itself on peeps posting that don't read the article. But I thought that about myself ... until I tried to read that drivel. Even I can not stomach that noise.

/a first time for everything I guess

Yeah, I got halfway through the article before I closed it. The article was a word count column, but what I did pick up is that Twitch isn't easily exploitable like Facebook and Twitter, though it is vulnerable in its own way. So deplatforming sort of works.

People keep whining about Facebook, but won't leave. I tried Google+, and thought it would have been a good FB alternative, but there weren't many friends on it. I dropped FB even before the Cambridge Anylitica stuff, because I wasn't seeing current postings from my friends and family, and it was causing me issues making me feel inferior to what my friends posted themselves doing. For my mental well-being, I decided I was better off without FB.


Everything you describes is completely personal your issue and completely internal and had nothing to do with Facebook or your friends.

You need to look at Facebook like you look at the corner you might like walk up on the corner and have a pedestrian fleeting acquaintance relationship with the guys on the corner spending 15 or 20 minutes BS and with them and go on about your day if you're not treating Facebook like that maybe you take online too serious to begin with.
I know a lot of people take Internet very serious because they're doing their banking on there and buying stuff from Amazon but I don't see why I can't also be a place to talk to weird stupid people that in real life you probably punch in the face
🙄¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
2020-09-28 12:33:01 AM  
Fark user imageView Full Size

TRUTH!
 
2020-09-28 12:33:19 AM  

iheartscotch: kdawg7736: I never heard of QAnon.

Be glad. They're like Flat-earthers, moon landing deniers and evangelicals had a titanically stupid baby. That baby is dumber than a Trump.

TLDR Version? They think that Donny is gonna take down an international behind the scenes bad guy group called the Deep State any day now. Aaaany day now.


I feel bad when I run into one.  They are usually people who were pretty untethered to begin with, and really bad at figuring things out for themselves, on top of it.  Add a bunch of free time on top of that, so they can really immerse themselves in the story, and ...

Wow.  It gets stupid.  And they get condescending when you don't sign up to their derp.  "Well, you doesn't know about the 1983 flight from Beliz to Ecuadore that was shot down, and the chance meeting in Tegucigalpa a few months later.  But how could you?  You don't listen to this all day like I do.  You are such a clueless drone.  I feel bad for you."
 
2020-09-28 12:33:27 AM  

Forty-Three: anfrind: The best (worst?) part is that even if the conspiracy were somehow true, a Q clearance (which is a real thing) doesn't grant access to anything remotely resembling that sort of information.

This.  I had always wondered why whoever stared QAnon picked "Q clearance" as their secret squirrel level, as it's strictly a Department of Energy thing.  It's pretty boring and obscure, and mostly just has to do with access to technical data about the bits inside the nuclear warheads (about half of the DOE's job is to maintain the warheads), and has nothing to do whatsoever with anybody that would be investigating global cabals and such.  The only reason I had ever heard of it was that I worked for the DOE for a number of years.  When it came out, I thought it was odd, but just figured it was someone who had worked for them at some point and had seen the phrase on a bulletin board, or presentation slide, or something.

Then, just the other night, I was re-watching Archer, and there was an episode where the Archer bluffs his way through security at Area 51 with a "Q Clearance Code" he stole from a CIA agent. I looked it up, and sure enough, that episode aired about a year before the whole QAnon thing started.

So, yes, the origin of QAnon is most likely...Sterling Archer.


That jackass!  First ISIS, and now this.  More seriously, I can see why "Q Clearance" would be attractive to these conspiracy nuts.  It has an air of mystery around it because it's not widely known and/or understood.  The name itself ads to this because instead of somewhat describing the clearance like "top secret," it's just a letter.   And it's not like the people who are going to be drawn into conspiracy theories are going to do the research, or believe it if they do look it up.
 
2020-09-28 12:34:01 AM  

Forty-Three: anfrind: Boo_Guy: assalon5: I know that Fark prides itself on peeps posting that don't read the article. But I thought that about myself ... until I tried to read that drivel. Even I can not stomach that noise.

/a first time for everything I guess

I got as far as it talking about how they torture children to get a drug out of them and started scrolling and skimming after that.

/yikes

The best (worst?) part is that even if the conspiracy were somehow true, a Q clearance (which is a real thing) doesn't grant access to anything remotely resembling that sort of information.

This.  I had always wondered why whoever stared QAnon picked "Q clearance" as their secret squirrel level, as it's strictly a Department of Energy thing.  It's pretty boring and obscure, and mostly just has to do with access to technical data about the bits inside the nuclear warheads (about half of the DOE's job is to maintain the warheads), and has nothing to do whatsoever with anybody that would be investigating global cabals and such.  The only reason I had ever heard of it was that I worked for the DOE for a number of years.  When it came out, I thought it was odd, but just figured it was someone who had worked for them at some point and had seen the phrase on a bulletin board, or presentation slide, or something.

Then, just the other night, I was re-watching Archer, and there was an episode where the Archer bluffs his way through security at Area 51 with a "Q Clearance Code" he stole from a CIA agent. I looked it up, and sure enough, that episode aired about a year before the whole QAnon thing started.

So, yes, the origin of QAnon is most likely...Sterling Archer.


Next thing you know you're going to say the cocaine and CIA thing is complete fiction too
 
2020-09-28 12:36:26 AM  
waxbeans:

You need to look at Facebook like you look at the corner you might like walk up on the corner and have a pedestrian fleeting acquaintance relationship with the guys on the corner spending 15 or 20 minutes BS and with them and go on about your day if you're not treating Facebook like that maybe you take online too serious to begin with.
I know a lot of people take Internet very serious because they're doing their banking on there and buying stuff from Amazon but I don't see why I can't also be a place to talk to weird stupid people that in real life you probably punch in the face
🙄¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Normally, when I meet people who abuse grammar and punctuation, I punch them in the face.
 
2020-09-28 12:38:19 AM  
I completely ignored QAnon, Antifa, the Flat-Earth Society, and all the others, in the same way I tune out 4chan and fursex aficionados.

And now my country seems to have fallen.
 
2020-09-28 12:39:11 AM  

iheartscotch: kdawg7736: I never heard of QAnon.

Be glad. They're like Flat-earthers, moon landing deniers and evangelicals had a titanically stupid baby. That baby is dumber than a Trump.

TLDR Version? They think that Donny is gonna take down an international behind the scenes bad guy group called the Deep State any day now. Aaaany day now.


He is working night and day on this. So much work. He's even stopped styling his "hair" to make more time for saving little white children from Killary's rapacious appetites. She can drain a 3 year old child of its vital essences in 30 seconds, tops.

We'll all be thanking 45* for his service . . .  soon . . .  very very soon.
 
2020-09-28 12:39:48 AM  

Polish Hussar: Forty-Three: anfrind: The best (worst?) part is that even if the conspiracy were somehow true, a Q clearance (which is a real thing) doesn't grant access to anything remotely resembling that sort of information.

This.  I had always wondered why whoever stared QAnon picked "Q clearance" as their secret squirrel level, as it's strictly a Department of Energy thing.  It's pretty boring and obscure, and mostly just has to do with access to technical data about the bits inside the nuclear warheads (about half of the DOE's job is to maintain the warheads), and has nothing to do whatsoever with anybody that would be investigating global cabals and such.  The only reason I had ever heard of it was that I worked for the DOE for a number of years.  When it came out, I thought it was odd, but just figured it was someone who had worked for them at some point and had seen the phrase on a bulletin board, or presentation slide, or something.

Then, just the other night, I was re-watching Archer, and there was an episode where the Archer bluffs his way through security at Area 51 with a "Q Clearance Code" he stole from a CIA agent. I looked it up, and sure enough, that episode aired about a year before the whole QAnon thing started.

So, yes, the origin of QAnon is most likely...Sterling Archer.

That jackass!  First ISIS, and now this.  More seriously, I can see why "Q Clearance" would be attractive to these conspiracy nuts.  It has an air of mystery around it because it's not widely known and/or understood.  The name itself ads to this because instead of somewhat describing the clearance like "top secret," it's just a letter.   And it's not like the people who are going to be drawn into conspiracy theories are going to do the research, or believe it if they do look it up.


Yes. But, this attitude of people should just go debunk them self is silly.
Until we as a nation invest in making a repository of debunked garbage; can you really cry about unscrupulous people taking advantage of stupid rubes?
And if those rubes kill people isn't the blood on everyone's hands for just shrugging and proclaiming rubes should teach themselves?

you want to act like this stupidity is happening in a vacuum but you're ignoring the fact that you could step up and do something about the ignorance.

But rest on your laurels, and  have your save be censorship via CEOs to be your only backstop.
 
2020-09-28 12:40:42 AM  

iheartscotch: kdawg7736: I never heard of QAnon.

Be glad. They're like Flat-earthers, moon landing deniers and evangelicals had a titanically stupid baby. That baby is dumber than a Trump.

TLDR Version? They think that Donny is gonna take down an international behind the scenes bad guy group called the Deep State any day now. Aaaany day now.


The dangerous part are the followers who have their own private arsenal that get tired of "trusting The Plan" and waiting for any day now to come and decide it's up to them to initiate the takedown of the Deep State.  Keep in mind that this "takedown" is basically the Day of the Rope from "The Turner Diaries," which was Timothy McVeigh's inspiration for the Oklahoma City bombing.
 
2020-09-28 12:41:16 AM  
Censorship is not an effective  tool against ignorance.
It's just easy and popular.

Woot🙄
 
2020-09-28 12:43:54 AM  
It's simple:

Transient Anonymity x Lack of Consequences = Online Idiocy.

How else to explain my immense popularity?

The Pope of Manwich Village

Fark user image(lapsed)

The Smart button is
right about here...
👇
 
2020-09-28 12:44:41 AM  
All this talk of Archer reminds me that we did have some farkup get paid by the administration to attempt a coup in Venezuela earlier this year.  The encyclopedia yearbook for 2020 is going to take a few volumes.
 
2020-09-28 12:50:30 AM  
FTA: an imaginary drug called "adrenochrome"

To be clear, adrenochrome is very real, and it does trigger psychotic reactions, but it is not at all as QAnon describes it. Nor is it a great deal as Aldous Huxley, Anthony Burgess or Hunter S. Thompson describe it.
 
2020-09-28 12:58:07 AM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: If by "works," you mean "send the voice to another channel and reinforce supporters' belief while detractors pretend they're the only perspective in the world," then I guess it does "work."


Damn near every alternative video and social media platform developed with Qanon, alt-right or reactionaries in mind has imploded in spectacular fashion.  Look how fast Yolo Minimouse vanished without Twitter.
 
2020-09-28 1:01:51 AM  
Not sure how many people scrolled through the article far enough to see the Dan Olson video, I recommend watching it.  He does a good job giving a history and overview of the Flat Earth and QAnon conspiracy theories, but also covers the mindset of conspiracy theory adherents and why attempts to break them of their belief by educating them about the blatant falsehoods inherent in the conspiracy theory almost never works.

In Search Of A Flat Earth
Youtube JTfhYyTuT44


He goes from Flat Earth to QAnon because almost all of the Flat Earth community migrated to QAnon, the Voltron of conspiracy theories.
 
2020-09-28 1:09:24 AM  
and the censorship continues. now we just need a bunch of groupthinkers to be reinforce it. done!
 
2020-09-28 1:11:57 AM  
Oh wow.  A rare 2002 account appears to stan for Q
 
2020-09-28 1:24:43 AM  

anfrind: Boo_Guy: assalon5: I know that Fark prides itself on peeps posting that don't read the article. But I thought that about myself ... until I tried to read that drivel. Even I can not stomach that noise.

/a first time for everything I guess

I got as far as it talking about how they torture children to get a drug out of them and started scrolling and skimming after that.

/yikes

The best (worst?) part is that even if the conspiracy were somehow true, a Q clearance (which is a real thing) doesn't grant access to anything remotely resembling that sort of information.


Specifically, it's a DOE clearance specifically for nuclear secrets.

It is technically the highest clearance level of clearance, but that's because it's specific to a narrow set of secrets that normal clearance is never enough for, and if a Q level secret ended up on the internet, there's a very short list of people who would all be getting black suit visits very quickly.

Need to know always applies to clearance, too. Clearance isn't a library pass to browse the files, your job needs to bring you to a file for your clearance to even matter.
 
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