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2020-09-27 4:55:39 PM  
 
2020-09-27 5:57:08 PM  
This is why they stopped their ad buys. The money is going to lawyers instead.
 
2020-09-27 6:00:13 PM  
I worry the Dems aren't investing enough in defense of this. The GOP is going to challenge results in every state.
 
2020-09-27 6:03:01 PM  
Just count the votes.
 
2020-09-27 6:50:04 PM  
"Poll watchers", in brown shirts no doubt, is the part that pisses me off.

I'm looking forward to going to my polling place and counter-protesting these assholes. I am 100% fed up with tolerating MAGAts.
 
2020-09-27 7:33:31 PM  
B-B-But Republicans hate lawyers*!

*Except and until they need one. And inevitably, they do.
 
2020-09-27 7:44:06 PM  
FTA: "Dozens of lawyers from three major firms have been hired."

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2020-09-27 7:54:21 PM  
So the same as every election.
 
2020-09-27 7:56:47 PM  

GardenWeasel: I worry the Dems aren't investing enough in defense of this. The GOP is going to challenge results in every state.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.r​e​uters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN24305H

1000's of lawyers all around!
 
2020-09-27 7:58:51 PM  
I volunteered to be a poll observer in my area. For 10 days. Not for Trump though.
 
2020-09-27 7:59:31 PM  

GardenWeasel: This is why they stopped their ad buys. The money is going to lawyers instead.


He's paying his lawyers well for a change?
 
2020-09-27 8:00:18 PM  

GardenWeasel: This is why they stopped their ad buys. The money is going to lawyers instead.


Doubtful.

Right now, I'd wager more than most of those lawyers are asking each other, "so, have you guys gotten paid yet?"
 
2020-09-27 8:01:20 PM  

GardenWeasel: I worry the Dems aren't investing enough in defense of this. The GOP is going to challenge results in every state.


My fear is they'll pull an Al Gore and "Oh, well, for the good of the country," the farking thing. Establishment Dems have no fight in them.
 
2020-09-27 8:01:24 PM  
So are Republicans going to put this effort into the down ballet races?  What if they end up torpedoing their Senate and House candidates.
 
2020-09-27 8:01:41 PM  
It took a thousand lawyers to craft the US Constitution, after the failed Articles of Confederation crashed and burned.

It will take tens of thousands of lawyers to break the Democracy that happened from the US Constitution from it's beginning to now.

Trump and the Republicans are willing to pay that price, county by county, jurisdiction by jurisdiction.


It happened before.  In 1086 in England.  In ten years, all the Anglo Saxon landholders had their property transferred to the Normans of William the Conqueror, through the English court system.    Within ten year, only 5% of the original holdings rested in Anglo Saxon hands.

Don't think it isn't doable here.  And it would be voting rights, not just real estate.
 
2020-09-27 8:02:49 PM  
My favorite part of any election is the ritual combat of lawyers in the streets.
 
2020-09-27 8:03:39 PM  
Given Trump's history in court battles, this is not going to go the way he wants it to, unless this is just for show so that he can run with the narrative of the courts also being part of the "deep state" and that the Democrats are stealing the election, all so he can stand tall when he refuses to turn over power.

\still not going to go his way, but a man can dream, can't he?
 
2020-09-27 8:04:15 PM  
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2020-09-27 8:04:23 PM  

GardenWeasel: I worry the Dems aren't investing enough in defense of this. The GOP is going to challenge results in every state.


The constitution says that the state legislatures appoint electors, right?  Does that mean that a Republican legislature can ignore the vote and appoint a slate of electors over the objections of a Democratic governor?

I have been assuming that a GOP trifecta would be required for that trick.  If a GOP controlled legislature can do it without the governor, that increases the number of states that could be "flipped" in this fashion.
 
2020-09-27 8:04:25 PM  

iheartscotch: My favorite part of any election is the ritual combat of lawyers in the streets.


How can we make that happen?

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2020-09-27 8:06:06 PM  
What a world
 
2020-09-27 8:06:18 PM  
Now there is a man who is not confident in how much people like him.
 
2020-09-27 8:06:54 PM  
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/I just had to
 
2020-09-27 8:07:52 PM  
Looks like Herr Furor is trying to lawyer up and sue to overturn the election, when Biden wipes the country with him. No doubt with a little help from Rooty-Tooty Vladmir Pooty
 
2020-09-27 8:08:12 PM  
Meh,he's toast.
 
2020-09-27 8:10:02 PM  
If like to see that list of volunteer attorneys, so I know who not to hire.
 
2020-09-27 8:11:31 PM  

iheartscotch: My favorite part of any election is the ritual combat of lawyers in the streets.


ANCHORMAN COMPLETE FIGHT SCENE
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2020-09-27 8:11:39 PM  
Lawyers guns and money.
 
2020-09-27 8:12:09 PM  

flondrix: GardenWeasel: I worry the Dems aren't investing enough in defense of this. The GOP is going to challenge results in every state.

The constitution says that the state legislatures appoint electors, right?  Does that mean that a Republican legislature can ignore the vote and appoint a slate of electors over the objections of a Democratic governor?

I have been assuming that a GOP trifecta would be required for that trick.  If a GOP controlled legislature can do it without the governor, that increases the number of states that could be "flipped" in this fashion.


It is a valid concern, although in the back of the minds of the legislature and electors would have to be

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Yes, odd looking frogs in suspenders. Always in the back of their minds.
 
2020-09-27 8:13:55 PM  
Honestly speaking, how many are going to stick with him after his tax returns have been shown off.

Lawyers don't particularly care if you win or not, though it's better if they win. They care about getting PAID, and it's likely a coin flip whether they get paid or not.

Also, and this is important... it's only worth going to court if it's somewhat close.
 
2020-09-27 8:15:31 PM  

quiotu: Honestly speaking, how many are going to stick with him after his tax returns have been shown off.

Lawyers don't particularly care if you win or not, though it's better if they win. They care about getting PAID, and it's likely a coin flip whether they get paid or not.

Also, and this is important... it's only worth going to court if it's somewhat close.


They will get paid through donation money since it is part of the effort.

These lawyers signed on because they can bill whatever the fark they want to because the election will pick up the tab. If it was trump personally, most would have declined.
 
2020-09-27 8:16:16 PM  
Have these new Trump lawyers not heard the stories of Trump's previous lawyers who A) said they couldn't be in a room without several of them present to make sure he didn't lie his ass off, B) said that Trump never paid his bills, and C) working for Trump eventually landed some of them in jail?
 
2020-09-27 8:16:26 PM  
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2020-09-27 8:18:51 PM  

AsparagusFTW: quiotu: Honestly speaking, how many are going to stick with him after his tax returns have been shown off.

Lawyers don't particularly care if you win or not, though it's better if they win. They care about getting PAID, and it's likely a coin flip whether they get paid or not.

Also, and this is important... it's only worth going to court if it's somewhat close.

They will get paid through donation money since it is part of the effort.

These lawyers signed on because they can bill whatever the fark they want to because the election will pick up the tab. If it was trump personally, most would have declined.


Brad Parscale has already ripped off the RNC donations to the tune of tens of millions of dollars. And he's not the only one skimming.
It may behoove the lawyers to insist on cash up front, even if it's not coming directly from Trump himself.
 
2020-09-27 8:19:13 PM  

flondrix: GardenWeasel: I worry the Dems aren't investing enough in defense of this. The GOP is going to challenge results in every state.

The constitution says that the state legislatures appoint electors, right?  Does that mean that a Republican legislature can ignore the vote and appoint a slate of electors over the objections of a Democratic governor?

I have been assuming that a GOP trifecta would be required for that trick.  If a GOP controlled legislature can do it without the governor, that increases the number of states that could be "flipped" in this fashion.


It's happened before, in the election of 1876. That was resolved by negotiations, not courts, so it's still an unanswered question.
 
2020-09-27 8:21:49 PM  
Didn't the article say that many of the lawyers are volunteers?

There are a dozen or so getting paid by the campaign but the thousands they mention in the article are free of charge.  So I imagine they are graduates of Trump University.
 
2020-09-27 8:23:15 PM  
They organized this on the fly when it became apparent Florida had a razor margin in 2000.
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Imagine what they'll do with weeks to prepare.

/ John Roberts was there, too, just not in the hooting and howling section of the operation
 
2020-09-27 8:23:17 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: iheartscotch: My favorite part of any election is the ritual combat of lawyers in the streets.

How can we make that happen?

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Provide swords?
 
2020-09-27 8:24:32 PM  

goodncold: Didn't the article say that many of the lawyers are volunteers?

There are a dozen or so getting paid by the campaign but the thousands they mention in the article are free of charge.  So I imagine they are graduates of Trump University.


John Roberts worked on the Florida theft for Bush Jr. in 2000. It sure paid off for him.
 
2020-09-27 8:24:49 PM  
Is he getting his giant chisel ready to chisel his way back into the Whites House?  Chiseler.
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2020-09-27 8:27:52 PM  
Thousands of volunteer attorneys and poll watchers across the country have been recruited.

Good thing they're volunteers because they sure as hell ain't getting paid.
 
2020-09-27 8:29:24 PM  

iheartscotch: My favorite part of any election is the ritual combat of lawyers in the streets.


The breakdancing competitions are the best part.  And the rap battles.
 
2020-09-27 8:29:52 PM  
Why would ANY lawyer accept to take on a job for Trump, knowing full well his abysmal past history of deadbeating out on everyone from contractors to little girls??
 
2020-09-27 8:30:53 PM  

vernonFL: Lawyers guns and money.

*shakes tiny fist*

 
2020-09-27 8:30:55 PM  
Did they get paid in advance?
 
2020-09-27 8:32:54 PM  

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Now there's a, "Name my band" meme pic if there ever was...


/Looking at that bunch it's definitely a Rush cover band..
// I like Rush too ok...
/// piece band..
 
2020-09-27 8:35:37 PM  
Both political parties are bracing for the Nov. 3 election to spill over into the days and perhaps weeks after Election Day, given the drawn out process of counting what's expected to be a historic number of mail-in votes. Since Republicans and Democrats vehemently disagree over how - and when - those ballots should be counted, the court system might be the ultimate arbiter.

This is technically correct, but the more complete statement is that the "when" for Republicans is "never".


"Donald Trump is both desperate and can't bear to be seen as a loser," said David Lublin, an elections expert at American University. "So he's got to come up with some way that he either doesn't lose or he can pretend to all of his followers that he was forced out unjustly due to the massive fraud that somehow did not plague all the previous elections."

This is untrue. Trump's followers have already been fed a narrative that previous elections have been plagued by massive fraud as is evident by Democrats ever being elected to any office, ever.
 
2020-09-27 8:36:38 PM  
Ah, Trump's lawyers.

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2020-09-27 8:41:37 PM  
If this an example, how the fark do you people get anything done in that country?
 
2020-09-27 8:42:41 PM  
To Kansas, Arkansas and Florida?

Landslides aren't contestable. Ask Stevie Nicks (if she isn't on the list of women you tried to rape), she'll use her dulcet tones to lure you to sleep until January 21st.
 
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