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(CNN)   Man finds 9-carat diamond in Crater of Diamonds State Park. You'd think this would happen all the time, but no-o-o-o   (cnn.com) divider line
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2020-09-27 7:38:03 AM  
Is it worth anything?
 
2020-09-27 7:45:37 AM  
Aren't you not aloud to take things from state parks by law? Or is that national parks?
 
2020-09-27 7:46:55 AM  

Thatguy!1984: Aren't you not aloud to take things from state parks by law? Or is that national parks?


You can if it's shiny, according to bird law.
 
2020-09-27 7:47:32 AM  

Thatguy!1984: Aren't you not aloud to take things from state parks by law? Or is that national parks?


If you do it quietly it's OK.
 
2020-09-27 7:50:09 AM  

Thatguy!1984: Aren't you not aloud to take things from state parks by law? Or is that national parks?


I'm pretty sure it's one of the established places where you're allowed to legally prospect as a visitor.
 
2020-09-27 7:50:34 AM  

Salmon: Is it worth anything?


Really depends on the clarity, color, whether or not it's full of occlusions, how it can be cut, etc.  With 9 carats he may be able to get a nice looking stone out of it.

I'm certainly not an expert, but I've got a few dozen carats of uncut rubies and emeralds sitting in a jar here.  Tons of emerald mines here in NC, been going since I was a kid.  I've always been told by the mines we go to (and considering they polish and cut in house, I'm sure they have a reason to push people to get everything they can polished) that anything under 4-5 carats probably isn't worth polishing other than to make it shiny, i.e. for setting in jewelry because of how much gets wasted putting all those facets on.

Obviously emeralds/rubies are different than diamonds, but I imagine it's probably a similar situation.  It's also entirely possible the guy found one with no occlusions that's perfectly clear and it's worth tens of thousands.  That's the fun part.

Fwiw, I've been going to the emerald mine for like 20 years and I'm a court clerk, not a jewel merchant, to give you an idea of what kind of stone he probably found.
 
2020-09-27 7:52:52 AM  

dryknife: Thatguy!1984: Aren't you not aloud to take things from state parks by law? Or is that national parks?

If you do it quietly it's OK.


Technically the park is in AR, though it's not far from the OK border.
 
2020-09-27 7:53:23 AM  

Tchernobog: Salmon: Is it worth anything?

Really depends on the clarity, color, whether or not it's full of occlusions, how it can be cut, etc.  With 9 carats he may be able to get a nice looking stone out of it.

I'm certainly not an expert, but I've got a few dozen carats of uncut rubies and emeralds sitting in a jar here.  Tons of emerald mines here in NC, been going since I was a kid.  I've always been told by the mines we go to (and considering they polish and cut in house, I'm sure they have a reason to push people to get everything they can polished) that anything under 4-5 carats probably isn't worth polishing other than to make it shiny, i.e. for setting in jewelry because of how much gets wasted putting all those facets on.

Obviously emeralds/rubies are different than diamonds, but I imagine it's probably a similar situation.  It's also entirely possible the guy found one with no occlusions that's perfectly clear and it's worth tens of thousands.  That's the fun part.

Fwiw, I've been going to the emerald mine for like 20 years and I'm a court clerk, not a jewel merchant, to give you an idea of what kind of stone he probably found.


thanks!
 
2020-09-27 7:55:09 AM  

Thatguy!1984: Aren't you not aloud to take things from state parks by law? Or is that national parks?


In this case, Crater of Diamonds is a neat state park where you can dig and keep anything you find.
 
2020-09-27 7:59:07 AM  

Salmon: Is it worth anything?


about tree-fiddy in one way or another.
 
2020-09-27 8:05:03 AM  

Somaticasual: Thatguy!1984: Aren't you not aloud to take things from state parks by law? Or is that national parks?

In this case, Crater of Diamonds is a neat state park where you can dig and keep anything you find.


Gotcha. Wasn't aware some places made exceptions 👍
 
2020-09-27 8:11:00 AM  

Thatguy!1984: Aren't you not aloud to take things from state parks by law? Or is that national parks?


You should at least stay aquiet about it.
 
2020-09-27 8:14:51 AM  

Thatguy!1984: Aren't you not aloud to take things from state parks by law? Or is that national parks?


"The park has a "finders keepers" policy, which is pretty generous considering the many large diamonds that have been found there, "
 
2020-09-27 8:41:01 AM  

Salmon: Is it worth anything?


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2020-09-27 9:05:17 AM  

dryknife: Thatguy!1984: Aren't you not aloud to take things from state parks by law? Or is that national parks?

If you do it quietly it's OK.


National parks allow fishing. You can do some limited mushroom gathering as well. State parks are going to vary from state to state.
 
2020-09-27 9:08:10 AM  
Pardon me a moment, I'm off to Giant Bars of Gold National Park.
 
2020-09-27 9:29:02 AM  

Salmon: Is it worth anything?


From the pictures, it's a dark brown diamond, meaning it's not worth much.  If the clarity's decent, he might get it cut and have a jeweler palm it off as a "chocolate diamond" to some rube.
 
2020-09-27 9:59:12 AM  

Mouser: Salmon: Is it worth anything?

From the pictures, it's a dark brown diamond, meaning it's not worth much.  If the clarity's decent, he might get it cut and have a jeweler palm it off as a "chocolate diamond" to some rube.


Brown diamonds matter.

/probably.
 
2020-09-27 10:00:37 AM  

CordycepsInYourBrain: dryknife: Thatguy!1984: Aren't you not aloud to take things from state parks by law? Or is that national parks?

If you do it quietly it's OK.

National parks allow fishing. You can do some limited mushroom gathering as well. State parks are going to vary from state to state.


Google says rock collecting and gold panning are allowed, but shovels and picks are not. And it suggests to check with park rangers first.
 
2020-09-27 10:09:28 AM  

Mouser: Salmon: Is it worth anything?

From the pictures, it's a dark brown diamond, meaning it's not worth much.  If the clarity's decent, he might get it cut and have a jeweler palm it off as a "chocolate diamond" to some rube.


Even if it were clear, diamonds are realistically nearly worthless. The only "value" is because diamond cartels and jewelry merchants say they're valuable, and because they strictly control the market to make them seem scarce when they're actually rather abundant on Earth.

People became aware of the scam in the 90s, and diamond sales have been dropping ever since. Gen Z doesn't give a shiat about diamonds, and honestly, a large chunk of Gen X (myself included) thinks they're best used for cutting things, not as jewelry, because they're so blah-looking as gemstones go. Lots of other stones look better, and if you want something that looks like a diamond it can be achieved with a variety of other stones or lab-made diamonds.

My partner and I don't wear them. I'm personally not keen on supporting an industry that not only cheats customers on the regular, but has a long history of actually enslaving children to work the mines. We also happen to think other, more colorful stones are prettier.
 
2020-09-27 10:12:19 AM  

Algebrat: Thatguy!1984: Aren't you not aloud to take things from state parks by law? Or is that national parks?

You can if it's shiny, according to bird law.


Well yes, but bird law is not based on logic.
 
2020-09-27 10:16:35 AM  
From the picture it looks as if he found a nice drill bit, but it was a fun day I bet.

Remember kids, color, cut and clarity determine price over carat weight.

Interesting colors are worth $$.  BROWN is not an interesting color, Yellow, red, blue, green white are.
 
2020-09-27 10:21:32 AM  
Turbo Cojones: BROWN is not an interesting color


'Aint that the last 500 years in a nutshell?
 
2020-09-27 10:36:07 AM  
I would take a simple ring made of meteoric iron over a diamond ring in a heartbeat.
 
2020-09-27 10:53:04 AM  
That was a good story to read before I head down to my gold claim.
 
2020-09-27 10:55:42 AM  

WilderKWight: Mouser: Salmon: Is it worth anything?

From the pictures, it's a dark brown diamond, meaning it's not worth much.  If the clarity's decent, he might get it cut and have a jeweler palm it off as a "chocolate diamond" to some rube.

Even if it were clear, diamonds are realistically nearly worthless. The only "value" is because diamond cartels and jewelry merchants say they're valuable, and because they strictly control the market to make them seem scarce when they're actually rather abundant on Earth.

People became aware of the scam in the 90s, and diamond sales have been dropping ever since. Gen Z doesn't give a shiat about diamonds, and honestly, a large chunk of Gen X (myself included) thinks they're best used for cutting things, not as jewelry, because they're so blah-looking as gemstones go. Lots of other stones look better, and if you want something that looks like a diamond it can be achieved with a variety of other stones or lab-made diamonds.


And for those who like glitter, moissanite has a higher index of refraction than diamond, hence is "glitterier"
 
2020-09-27 10:58:31 AM  
can one make a living by doing this?
 
2020-09-27 10:59:08 AM  
There's also a gem mine in NC where you can pay to pan for stones.... my mom has found a couple of heralds & amethysts
 
2020-09-27 11:02:59 AM  
Went there summer 2018, all I got was a sunburn and dirt everywhere. Even if I did get a tiny diamond in my pan we probably tossed it out being we really didn't know what to look for.  Was still a fun adventure on the way back from grandma's house.
 
2020-09-27 11:05:13 AM  

WilderKWight: Mouser: Salmon: Is it worth anything?

From the pictures, it's a dark brown diamond, meaning it's not worth much.  If the clarity's decent, he might get it cut and have a jeweler palm it off as a "chocolate diamond" to some rube.

Even if it were clear, diamonds are realistically nearly worthless. The only "value" is because diamond cartels and jewelry merchants say they're valuable, and because they strictly control the market to make them seem scarce when they're actually rather abundant on Earth.

People became aware of the scam in the 90s, and diamond sales have been dropping ever since. Gen Z doesn't give a shiat about diamonds, and honestly, a large chunk of Gen X (myself included) thinks they're best used for cutting things, not as jewelry, because they're so blah-looking as gemstones go. Lots of other stones look better, and if you want something that looks like a diamond it can be achieved with a variety of other stones or lab-made diamonds.

My partner and I don't wear them. I'm personally not keen on supporting an industry that not only cheats customers on the regular, but has a long history of actually enslaving children to work the mines. We also happen to think other, more colorful stones are prettier.


Uh, wat. You can say the same thing about any currency. It's worth nothing if nobody will buy it. By definition, the value of any object is exactly what someone will pay. For example, a painting is worthless unless someone tells you the artist is famous. And it can't even be used to cut things.

But congratulations on subverting society. It must look pretty smug up there on that very tall horse.
 
2020-09-27 11:18:31 AM  
Even a guesstimate would have been nice.
 
2020-09-27 11:24:48 AM  
I found a 1/4 carat clear diamond there.  It was a fun for about 10 minutes.
 
2020-09-27 11:45:21 AM  

Thatguy!1984: Aren't you not aloud to take things from state parks by law? Or is that national parks?


they have a finders keepers policy
 
2020-09-27 11:48:46 AM  

TheCableGuy: Mouser: Salmon: Is it worth anything?

From the pictures, it's a dark brown diamond, meaning it's not worth much.  If the clarity's decent, he might get it cut and have a jeweler palm it off as a "chocolate diamond" to some rube.

Brown diamonds matter.

/probably.


ALL diamonds matter
 
2020-09-27 11:50:54 AM  

Turbo Cojones: Interesting colors are worth $$.  BROWN is not an interesting color, Yellow, red, blue, green white are.


But which are the creative colours?
 
2020-09-27 11:53:15 AM  

Salmon: Is it worth anything?


The IRS will determine that around tax time.
 
2020-09-27 11:56:43 AM  

dr_iacovone: TheCableGuy: Mouser: Salmon: Is it worth anything?

From the pictures, it's a dark brown diamond, meaning it's not worth much.  If the clarity's decent, he might get it cut and have a jeweler palm it off as a "chocolate diamond" to some rube.

Brown diamonds matter.

/probably.

ALL diamonds matter


Just because brown ones matter doesn't mean the others don't.  The brown one needs the attention right now.

/ if you want to argue further let's take it to the politics tab or Nextdoor where it belongs.
//😁
 
2020-09-27 12:01:07 PM  

TheCableGuy: dr_iacovone: TheCableGuy: Mouser: Salmon: Is it worth anything?

From the pictures, it's a dark brown diamond, meaning it's not worth much.  If the clarity's decent, he might get it cut and have a jeweler palm it off as a "chocolate diamond" to some rube.

Brown diamonds matter.

/probably.

ALL diamonds matter

Just because brown ones matter doesn't mean the others don't.  The brown one needs the attention right now.

/ if you want to argue further let's take it to the politics tab or Nextdoor where it belongs.
//😁


But nothing ever has clarity in the politics tab.
 
2020-09-27 1:04:23 PM  

WilderKWight: Mouser: Salmon: Is it worth anything?

From the pictures, it's a dark brown diamond, meaning it's not worth much.  If the clarity's decent, he might get it cut and have a jeweler palm it off as a "chocolate diamond" to some rube.

Even if it were clear, diamonds are realistically nearly worthless. The only "value" is because diamond cartels and jewelry merchants say they're valuable, and because they strictly control the market to make them seem scarce when they're actually rather abundant on Earth.

People became aware of the scam in the 90s, and diamond sales have been dropping ever since. Gen Z doesn't give a shiat about diamonds, and honestly, a large chunk of Gen X (myself included) thinks they're best used for cutting things, not as jewelry, because they're so blah-looking as gemstones go. Lots of other stones look better, and if you want something that looks like a diamond it can be achieved with a variety of other stones or lab-made diamonds.

My partner and I don't wear them. I'm personally not keen on supporting an industry that not only cheats customers on the regular, but has a long history of actually enslaving children to work the mines. We also happen to think other, more colorful stones are prettier.


Umm, so is gold.   Gold is only worth something because humans assign value.  Otherwise, ain't worth shiat.  I don't know if you know this but paper money is also worthless unless people assign value.
 
2020-09-27 1:05:46 PM  
After hours of searching, the friends stopped by the park's Diamond Discovery Center to have their stones examined.

They check for cancer there?  Talk about full-service.
 
2020-09-27 1:18:28 PM  
"It weighs 9.07, and I found it on 9/7. I thought that was so unique."

I'd like to thank the man for not resorting to numerology and/or religion, given such an opportunity.
 
2020-09-27 1:18:51 PM  

Pointy Tail of Satan: I would take a simple ring made of meteoric iron over a diamond ring in a heartbeat.


You can gets them too.
 
2020-09-27 1:35:10 PM  

YouPeopleAreCrazy: Thatguy!1984: Aren't you not aloud to take things from state parks by law? Or is that national parks?

"The park has a "finders keepers" policy, which is pretty generous considering the many large diamonds that have been found there, "


Thanks for the answer.  You would think that theyd put important info like that in TFA so that the poster wouldnt have had to ask!
 
2020-09-27 2:08:33 PM  
I've been a few times but never found a diamond. If you're into rock polishing/lapidary stuff, there are TONS of minerals on site, lots of different jaspers for example. You can load a bucket and have material to work with for 6 months for the cost of entry to the park. It's really a neat place to visit.

not much further from there is an even better spot. Colemans Crystal Mine. It's a huge quartz mine and you can dig through the tailings. I've found 6" solid crystals, huge quartz clusters, etc. Also super cheap. If you have kids, taking a trip digging in the dirt can be pretty fun.
 
2020-09-27 2:09:53 PM  

bikkurikun: Salmon: Is it worth anything?

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That photo has persuaded persuaded me that pawn brokers today wear a distinctive costume at work. Something like old-time London chimney sweeps; what other occupations have of late evolved distinctive clothing?
 
2020-09-27 2:17:19 PM  

Salmon: Is it worth anything?


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They know a guy...
 
2020-09-27 2:24:47 PM  

g.fro: Algebrat: Thatguy!1984: Aren't you not aloud to take things from state parks by law? Or is that national parks?

You can if it's shiny, according to bird law.

Well yes, but bird law is not based on logic.


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2020-09-27 3:35:03 PM  
Who cares?

I, for one, don't carat all
 
2020-09-27 3:46:14 PM  

Zombies ate my neighbors: not much further from there is an even better spot. Colemans Crystal Mine. It's a huge quartz mine and you can dig through the tailings. I've found 6" solid crystals, huge quartz clusters, etc. Also super cheap. If you have kids, taking a trip digging in the dirt can be pretty fun.


Theres a place on National Forest land near us called Crystal Peak. Was mined for radio crystals during WW2. Personally ove never found anything substantial but my wife hae seen some people find some monsters.
Also a few hours away from us are opal mines. Depending on your price range you can dig through tailings or the can dig you a fresh hole with a backhoe. She was there when a kid found a big opal and the guy that owned the place offered him $1k for it.
 
2020-09-27 5:29:16 PM  

WilderKWight: Mouser: Salmon: Is it worth anything?

From the pictures, it's a dark brown diamond, meaning it's not worth much.  If the clarity's decent, he might get it cut and have a jeweler palm it off as a "chocolate diamond" to some rube.

Even if it were clear, diamonds are realistically nearly worthless. The only "value" is because diamond cartels and jewelry merchants say they're valuable, and because they strictly control the market to make them seem scarce when they're actually rather abundant on Earth.

People became aware of the scam in the 90s, and diamond sales have been dropping ever since. Gen Z doesn't give a shiat about diamonds, and honestly, a large chunk of Gen X (myself included) thinks they're best used for cutting things, not as jewelry, because they're so blah-looking as gemstones go. Lots of other stones look better, and if you want something that looks like a diamond it can be achieved with a variety of other stones or lab-made diamonds.

My partner and I don't wear them. I'm personally not keen on supporting an industry that not only cheats customers on the regular, but has a long history of actually enslaving children to work the mines. We also happen to think other, more colorful stones are prettier.


This sight was only made a park because DeBeer's didn't want any diamond mines to exist in countries with antitrust laws.

Diamonds aren't 'worthless'. Try to sell one back to a jewelry store. That's what they are actually worth.
About ten cents on the retail dollar, if you are lucky and didn't get outright robbed in the first place.
 
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