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1633 clicks; posted to Business » on 26 Sep 2020 at 8:52 PM (4 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



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2020-09-26 8:34:52 PM  
How the hell is that possible? Does a big hand come out of the screen and grabs you?
 
2020-09-26 9:09:00 PM  
Having rtfa at no point do they spell out how the scammers go from "you have passport or visa issues" to "and now you will fake your own kidnapping and have your parents send money to ransomers".

I'm interested in that missing explanation, and I imagine any potential victims would find it handy too.

I thought the guardian was supposed to be the good paper over there?
 
2020-09-26 9:26:01 PM  
seems like a lot of work. easier to just phish for passwords.
 
2020-09-26 9:38:37 PM  

Smackledorfer: Having rtfa at no point do they spell out how the scammers go from "you have passport or visa issues" to "and now you will fake your own kidnapping and have your parents send money to ransomers".

I'm interested in that missing explanation, and I imagine any potential victims would find it handy too.

I thought the guardian was supposed to be the good paper over there?


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2020-09-26 10:25:13 PM  

Smackledorfer: Having rtfa at no point do they spell out how the scammers go from "you have passport or visa issues" to "and now you will fake your own kidnapping and have your parents send money to ransomers".

I'm interested in that missing explanation, and I imagine any potential victims would find it handy too.

I thought the guardian was supposed to be the good paper over there?


I'm guessing that the researchers won't go into details with anyone who might publish them. The terrorism expert I knew at my university, for example, would not go into details on how recruiting Americans into extremism happens. There was no legal barrier, he just felt that academia shouldn't provide a how to manual for bad actors. Make them work for it.

There could be barriers put in place by other governments. You have to operate at the level of restrictions placed by the most restrictive government you want cooperation from. It can be a professional minefield trying to work with various governments, particularly China when it comes to something like this.
 
2020-09-26 11:28:30 PM  
Sounds like a Saw sequel with morons. I might actually watch that.

"And then the Chinese Office of International Policing told me I had to hack my foot off."
 
2020-09-27 12:07:01 AM  
Chinese 4chan is so freaking weird.
 
2020-09-27 6:27:33 AM  
This is why I hang up on almost any unknown number calling my phone.
"We have kidnapped..."
Not interested. Can't afford it.
"No seriously. We are going to kill your..."
Fark off. I'm watching something. *click*
 
2020-09-27 6:37:22 AM  
So you're telling me that they are getting young Chinese girls to go to stranger's apartment and let them be tied up with photos?

Now THAT'S a newsletter I want to subscribe to!

/I know, Fark is not my personal erotica site
 
2020-09-27 9:49:45 AM  
People seem eager to do stupid things when told to do so over the phone.

Managers hoaxed into strip searching employees because of a phone call
 
2020-09-27 11:17:59 AM  
Getting tied up like this, just give up, I mean, there's no way you're going to escape.

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2020-09-27 11:52:02 AM  

hammettman: Getting tied up like this, just give up, I mean, there's no way you're going to escape.

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I think they were persuaded of the need to tie themselves up to convince their parents of the danger.

Yes, it's literally unbelievable. But the scammers wouldn't be in business if it didn't work sometimes. I know a guy who is VP of an energy company. He negotiates wind projects with state and local governments and utility companies. Obviously not a moron.

He was *this* close to sending iTunes gift credits to the "IRS agent" who called and said it was urgent to pay off his liability to avoid arrest. Thank goodness he called an actual Federal employee friend to ask if the IRS would do that.
 
2020-09-27 12:30:34 PM  

Smackledorfer: Having rtfa at no point do they spell out how the scammers go from "you have passport or visa issues" to "and now you will fake your own kidnapping and have your parents send money to ransomers".

I'm interested in that missing explanation, and I imagine any potential victims would find it handy too.

I thought the guardian was supposed to be the good paper over there?


That info is probably restricted to only the cops. Imagine the number of copycat crimes if they told the whole world how it was done.

But OTOH, if there were a bunch of copycat crimes people would quickly figure out it was just a scam.
 
2020-09-27 12:50:20 PM  
Amateurs.

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2020-09-27 2:29:45 PM  
These have to be the stupidest people in the whole world.  I could see a gullible guy taking in some stranger to his home.  Maybe.   But I don't care what they were told, if you are not kidnapped, you do not send those photos to your family.

There should be a "I am too stupid, give me a legal guardian" Law.
 
2020-09-27 4:04:51 PM  
 
2020-09-28 7:38:24 AM  
New shiat has come to light, man.
 
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