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(Wisconsin State Journal)   City Clerk: let us hold an event where we collect absentee ballots GOP: STHAP THIS IS ILLEGAL City Clerk: Nope, it isn't GOP: NO STHAP VOTING   (madison.com) divider line
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2020-09-26 2:20:27 AM  
"The cease-and-desist letter does not affect the event and it will continue as planned, she said."

Good.
 
2020-09-26 2:35:57 AM  
We've certainly gotten to the point where telling people to vote is considered offensive by Republicans.
 
2020-09-26 2:56:16 AM  
FTA "Conservative lawyer Rick Esenberg, whose law firm has taken up several GOP-supported causes, said in an interview Friday he didn't plan on challenging the event in court unless it involved non-poll workers or involved distributing ballots."

Man even their lawyer is like... "uh, guys?"
 
2020-09-26 7:25:54 AM  
Republicans would be fine with the event if it only helped Republican voters.
 
2020-09-26 7:27:48 AM  
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"We are incapable or unwilling of making a 'Web site that doesn't spy on visitors."
 
2020-09-26 7:29:38 AM  
Guess this is the new litmus test-if you're unsure whether or not something is good or virtuous or beneficial to decent people, just ask yourself "what would a republican do?" If it's something they'd try to stop you from doing, then you're doing something right.

Fark you, GOP.
 
2020-09-26 7:37:18 AM  
There's nothing more American than voting.

Conversely, there's nothing more un-American than being a Republican.
 
2020-09-26 7:45:23 AM  
This right here illustrates one of the biggest difference between the 2 parties.

One party is actively trying to get people to vote.  Especially those that have been disenfranchised by race, location, inability to take off from work, lack of photo id, etc.

One party is actively trying to prevent those very same people from voting.

Why?  Because those people are likely to NOT vote GOP.  And that is the only reason.

If this Clerk were planning on holding this event for white, middle-aged, non-college degreed people, the GOP would have said it was okay.  But, see, there is no need for the Clerk to hold such an event.  Because they already have no problems with voting.
 
2020-09-26 7:45:34 AM  

TheSwizz: There's nothing more American than voting.

Conversely, there's nothing more un-American than being a Republican.


Deplorables, every sniveling one of them.
 
2020-09-26 7:48:14 AM  
Republicans will stop at nothing to stifle voting. And this event wasn't even voting... It was just providing a place for people that already have their mail-in ballots in hand a convenient way to submit them without have to use the USPS or drop them off in person at their county clerk's office. There can be no issue with this other than Subby's headline, "Please stop making it so easy for people to legally vote!"
 
2020-09-26 7:49:34 AM  
Ugh I know a lot of people would say the GOP only wants property owning white dudes to voting, out of frustration, but damn it seems like that's the actual goal of these freedom hating douche canoes
 
2020-09-26 7:49:51 AM  

ReluctantLondon: [Fark user image image 422x750]

"We are incapable or unwilling of making a 'Web site that doesn't spy on visitors."


Well, why should Europe get to say how an American site runs anyway?
 
2020-09-26 7:51:52 AM  
Republicans are filth. Every last one.
 
2020-09-26 7:51:55 AM  
"The threat that this procedure poses to ballot integrity is manifestly obvious,"

Hey, this statement is technically true! The threat to ballot integrity IS obvious in that it does not exist.  This is being done in an open and obvious manner and conducted specifically by authorized poll workers. It is nothing more than an effort to make legal voting more accessible to eligible voters.  Which Republicans have a major problem with, for some reason.
 
2020-09-26 7:52:01 AM  

durbnpoisn: This right here illustrates one of the biggest difference between the 2 parties.

One party is actively trying to get people to vote.  Especially those that have been disenfranchised by race, location, inability to take off from work, lack of photo id, etc.

One party is actively trying to prevent those very same people from voting.

Why?  Because those people are likely to NOT vote GOP.  And that is the only reason.

If this Clerk were planning on holding this event for white, middle-aged, non-college degreed people, the GOP would have said it was okay.  But, see, there is no need for the Clerk to hold such an event.  Because they already have no problems with voting.


And it's not as if this was a Democrat-sponsored event. Those white, middle-aged voters were certainly welcome to come and drop off their votes as well; not the clerk's fault that the President has convinced his cultists that mail-in voting is bad.
 
2020-09-26 7:55:05 AM  

Alphax: We've certainly gotten to the point where telling people to vote is considered offensive by Republicans.


"Gotten to?" Remember ACORN?
 
2020-09-26 7:55:50 AM  

covfefe: ReluctantLondon: [Fark user image image 422x750]

"We are incapable or unwilling of making a 'Web site that doesn't spy on visitors."

Well, why should Europe get to say how an American site runs anyway?


"And now an update on the United States government-mandated sale of the Chinese owned company Tik Tok for "security reasons"..."
 
2020-09-26 7:58:30 AM  

ReluctantLondon: [Fark user image 422x750]

"We are incapable or unwilling of making a 'Web site that doesn't spy on visitors."


Username checks out.
 
2020-09-26 8:03:06 AM  

covfefe: ReluctantLondon: [Fark user image image 422x750]

"We are incapable or unwilling of making a 'Web site that doesn't spy on visitors."

Well, why should Europe get to say how an American site runs anyway?


American-made cars in Europe have to pass European safety standards. Same concept.
 
2020-09-26 8:03:17 AM  

ReluctantLondon: [Fark user image 422x750]

"We are incapable or unwilling of making a 'Web site that doesn't spy on visitors."


There's nothing illegal in the EU about using cookies, you just have to explain what the cookies do, and have the user click an "I'm fine with that" button.

They're just pouting.
 
2020-09-26 8:09:13 AM  
Shouldn't it be Shtahp?
 
2020-09-26 8:09:16 AM  
If you ever feel your vote is useless, the fact that they would work so hard to disenfranchise voters should speak loudly. If it was completely useless they wouldn't care so much.
 
2020-09-26 8:10:38 AM  
Vote, cause if the gop get their way there won't be any voting much longer.
 
2020-09-26 8:11:19 AM  
The GOP spends all this effort on voter suppression but none on platform because they have no interest in democracy or progress, just attaining and holding power over you for their benefit.
 
2020-09-26 8:13:18 AM  

SleepySheaBear: Ugh I know a lot of people would say the GOP only wants property owning white dudes to voting, out of frustration, but damn it seems like that's the actual goal of these freedom hating douche canoes


As a white man that owns a house and a pickup truck, I don't think they'd want me voting either.

I mean, once they knew what I think. At a glance I'm sure they'd wanna let me vote.
 
2020-09-26 8:19:54 AM  

HypnozombieX: Vote, cause if the gop get their way there won't be any voting much longer.


Other countries have figured out that you need to have the voting.  You just don't need more than one candidate.
 
2020-09-26 8:29:48 AM  

ReluctantLondon: [Fark user image image 422x750]

"We are incapable or unwilling of making a 'Web site that doesn't spy on visitors."


Or, maybe, Europe shouldn't write laws that apply to other countries?
 
2020-09-26 8:31:29 AM  

blackminded: Alphax: We've certainly gotten to the point where telling people to vote is considered offensive by Republicans.

"Gotten to?" Remember ACORN?


Or Mississippi Burning, for that matter.
 
2020-09-26 8:35:00 AM  

DrD'isInfotainment: Shouldn't it be Shtahp?


The GOP are going to send out their Geshtaaaaaahpo to put an end to this.
 
2020-09-26 8:38:59 AM  
"The threat that this procedure poses to ballot integrity is manifestly obvious," Misha Tseytlin, former state solicitor general, wrote on behalf of Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald, R-Juneau, and Assembly Speaker Robin Vos, R-Rochester. "I mean, don't ask me how, I'm just repeating stupid talking points that don't make sense and can't actually prove what the threat is,, but trust me,, it's totally a threat."
 
2020-09-26 8:43:45 AM  
The response given was too gentle. The simple response should have been "you can go fark yourselves you authoritarian pricks."
 
2020-09-26 8:47:17 AM  

Alphax: blackminded: Alphax: We've certainly gotten to the point where telling people to vote is considered offensive by Republicans.

"Gotten to?" Remember ACORN?

Or Mississippi Burning, for that matter.


Course, those two were examples of voter registration, not actual voting.
 
2020-09-26 9:04:27 AM  

eKonk: "The threat that this procedure poses to ballot integrity is manifestly obvious,"

Hey, this statement is technically true! The threat to ballot integrity IS obvious in that it does not exist.  This is being done in an open and obvious manner and conducted specifically by authorized poll workers. It is nothing more than an effort to make legal voting more accessible to eligible voters.  Which Republicans have a major problem with, for some reason.


I like the part of the article that says that Republican observers were invited to the event.

Nobody's trying to hide anything you, twits. And yes, Black people and Democrats have the right to vote, too.
Don't you have a Trump flag to wash or something?
 
2020-09-26 9:13:16 AM  
Ahh, Vos and Fitzgerald. They're also responsible, along with Scott Walker, for the FoxConn mess, Those two are also members of the Coronavirus Caucus, with good old Robin telling people it's completely safe to vote while wearing this:

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He and Fitzgerald need to lose their cushy jobs.
 
2020-09-26 9:32:06 AM  

ReluctantLondon: [Fark user image 422x750]

"We are incapable or unwilling of making a 'Web site that doesn't spy on visitors."


"Doesn't spy on visitors...?"
It's probably something as simple as a Cookie with no expiration or something dumb like that.
Without knowing the privacy criteria you can't really judge.
 
2020-09-26 9:39:29 AM  

Cheesehead_Dave: durbnpoisn: This right here illustrates one of the biggest difference between the 2 parties.

One party is actively trying to get people to vote.  Especially those that have been disenfranchised by race, location, inability to take off from work, lack of photo id, etc.

One party is actively trying to prevent those very same people from voting.

Why?  Because those people are likely to NOT vote GOP.  And that is the only reason.

If this Clerk were planning on holding this event for white, middle-aged, non-college degreed people, the GOP would have said it was okay.  But, see, there is no need for the Clerk to hold such an event.  Because they already have no problems with voting.

And it's not as if this was a Democrat-sponsored event. Those white, middle-aged voters were certainly welcome to come and drop off their votes as well; not the clerk's fault that the President has convinced his cultists that mail-in voting is bad.


I just heard a radio ad for the event.  The ad was paid for by the Biden campaign; immediately after the "I'm Joe Biden, and I approved this message" there is a second disclaimer saying the event itself is sponsored by the City of Madison, and not affiliated with any campaign.  The station's audience is white middle aged voters (it's playing a Barry Manilow number right now).

The Republican objections to this are pure theater.  Madison will vote overwhelmingly for Biden, and the next act will be to claim this event is reason to ignore Madison's votes.
 
2020-09-26 9:43:03 AM  

OmnomnomCookies: Guess this is the new litmus test-if you're unsure whether or not something is good or virtuous or beneficial to decent people, just ask yourself "what would a republican do?" If it's something they'd try to stop you from doing, then you're doing something right.

Fark you, GOP.


To clarify I believe you're referring specifically to civic events.  If you ask yourself "what would a republican do" about personal stuff you would find yourself cheating on your spouse or assaulting an altar boy.
 
2020-09-26 9:57:10 AM  

ReluctantLondon: [Fark user image image 422x750]

"We are incapable or unwilling of making a 'Web site that doesn't spy on visitors."


Try this one..?

https://www.channel3000.com/gop-warns​-​madison-to-drop-plan-to-collect-ballot​s-in-parks/
 
2020-09-26 10:00:59 AM  
Not really seeing a problem with this...

Voter fraud is a felony, no?  Why would someone risk a fine/jail time for one vote?  Now, if you can someone fix like 5,000 votes that might be worth your time.

Anywho, just checked and my absentee ballot was received on 9/21.  Whether or not it's counted or not is out of my hands but I did my part.
 
2020-09-26 10:18:19 AM  

ColonelCathcart: ReluctantLondon: [Fark user image image 422x750]

"We are incapable or unwilling of making a 'Web site that doesn't spy on visitors."

Or, maybe, Europe shouldn't write laws that apply to other countries?


It doesn't
 
2020-09-26 10:22:27 AM  

qorkfiend: ColonelCathcart: ReluctantLondon: [Fark user image image 422x750]

"We are incapable or unwilling of making a 'Web site that doesn't spy on visitors."

Or, maybe, Europe shouldn't write laws that apply to other countries?

It doesn't


Yeah I don't understand what's so difficult about "if you want to sell your product in another country, you must follow their laws"
 
2020-09-26 10:27:32 AM  

qorkfiend: ColonelCathcart: ReluctantLondon: [Fark user image image 422x750]

"We are incapable or unwilling of making a 'Web site that doesn't spy on visitors."

Or, maybe, Europe shouldn't write laws that apply to other countries?

It doesn't


It actually does. If you touch the private data of a European Citizen, you have to follow GDPR.

For example, I sell stuff to Europeans (even if it is a digital subscription) on my website www.AmericanWebsite.com.

A European registers on my website providing personally identifiable information, based, hosted, and managed by 100% American Citizens in America even if those Europeans use an American Credit Card to pay for their Subscription.

I HAVE TO FOLLOW GDPR.

/Educate yourself on GDPR, because it costs *ALOT* of money if they want to come after you.
 
2020-09-26 10:29:38 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: qorkfiend: ColonelCathcart: ReluctantLondon: [Fark user image image 422x750]

"We are incapable or unwilling of making a 'Web site that doesn't spy on visitors."

Or, maybe, Europe shouldn't write laws that apply to other countries?

It doesn't

Yeah I don't understand what's so difficult about "if you want to sell your product in another country, you must follow their laws"


How is visiting an American Website based, hosted and managed in AMERICA by a European Citizen in any way Europe's business? The European chose to virtually come to America.
 
2020-09-26 10:32:20 AM  

OmnomnomCookies: Guess this is the new litmus test-if you're unsure whether or not something is good or virtuous or beneficial to decent people, just ask yourself "what would a republican do?" If it's something they'd try to stop you from doing, then you're doing something right.

Fark you, GOP.


That's not a new litmus test. It's just new to you.
 
2020-09-26 10:35:54 AM  

ColonelCathcart: cameroncrazy1984: qorkfiend: ColonelCathcart: ReluctantLondon: [Fark user image image 422x750]

"We are incapable or unwilling of making a 'Web site that doesn't spy on visitors."

Or, maybe, Europe shouldn't write laws that apply to other countries?

It doesn't

Yeah I don't understand what's so difficult about "if you want to sell your product in another country, you must follow their laws"

How is visiting an American Website based, hosted and managed in AMERICA by a European Citizen in any way Europe's business? The European chose to virtually come to America.


Because the transaction is happening on the end of the user, therefore it's European law you have to follow.
 
2020-09-26 10:41:56 AM  

ColonelCathcart: cameroncrazy1984: qorkfiend: ColonelCathcart: ReluctantLondon: [Fark user image image 422x750]

"We are incapable or unwilling of making a 'Web site that doesn't spy on visitors."

Or, maybe, Europe shouldn't write laws that apply to other countries?

It doesn't

Yeah I don't understand what's so difficult about "if you want to sell your product in another country, you must follow their laws"

How is visiting an American Website based, hosted and managed in AMERICA by a European Citizen in any way Europe's business? The European chose to virtually come to America.


Although this is way off the original topic of the thread, I would assume that you have no problem with Nigerian Princes who send you scams not being covered by US law either then?
 
2020-09-26 10:42:52 AM  

jayphat: ColonelCathcart: cameroncrazy1984: qorkfiend: ColonelCathcart: ReluctantLondon: [Fark user image image 422x750]

"We are incapable or unwilling of making a 'Web site that doesn't spy on visitors."

Or, maybe, Europe shouldn't write laws that apply to other countries?

It doesn't

Yeah I don't understand what's so difficult about "if you want to sell your product in another country, you must follow their laws"

How is visiting an American Website based, hosted and managed in AMERICA by a European Citizen in any way Europe's business? The European chose to virtually come to America.

Because the transaction is happening on the end of the user, therefore it's European law you have to follow.


Actually in my example, the actual transaction takes place in the United States, on an American server, with an American credit card. GDPR still applies.

The user happens to be in Europe. That's it.

It's as much of an overreach as FCPA that says if you're using a physical American dollar and commit bribery anywhere in the world, Uncle Sam can legally come after you.
 
2020-09-26 10:43:50 AM  

sdd2000: ColonelCathcart: cameroncrazy1984: qorkfiend: ColonelCathcart: ReluctantLondon: [Fark user image image 422x750]

"We are incapable or unwilling of making a 'Web site that doesn't spy on visitors."

Or, maybe, Europe shouldn't write laws that apply to other countries?

It doesn't

Yeah I don't understand what's so difficult about "if you want to sell your product in another country, you must follow their laws"

How is visiting an American Website based, hosted and managed in AMERICA by a European Citizen in any way Europe's business? The European chose to virtually come to America.

Although this is way off the original topic of the thread, I would assume that you have no problem with Nigerian Princes who send you scams not being covered by US law either then?


The Nigerian prince transaction occurs in America, and therefore under American jurisdiction
 
2020-09-26 10:51:10 AM  

jayphat: ColonelCathcart: cameroncrazy1984: qorkfiend: ColonelCathcart: ReluctantLondon: [Fark user image image 422x750]

"We are incapable or unwilling of making a 'Web site that doesn't spy on visitors."

Or, maybe, Europe shouldn't write laws that apply to other countries?

It doesn't

Yeah I don't understand what's so difficult about "if you want to sell your product in another country, you must follow their laws"

How is visiting an American Website based, hosted and managed in AMERICA by a European Citizen in any way Europe's business? The European chose to virtually come to America.

Because the transaction is happening on the end of the user, therefore it's European law you have to follow.


The European can even physically be in America, but if he enters a European address or his European Citizenship information...GDPR still applies
 
2020-09-26 10:54:36 AM  

ColonelCathcart: cameroncrazy1984: qorkfiend: ColonelCathcart: ReluctantLondon: [Fark user image image 422x750]

"We are incapable or unwilling of making a 'Web site that doesn't spy on visitors."

Or, maybe, Europe shouldn't write laws that apply to other countries?

It doesn't

Yeah I don't understand what's so difficult about "if you want to sell your product in another country, you must follow their laws"

How is visiting an American Website based, hosted and managed in AMERICA by a European Citizen in any way Europe's business? The European chose to virtually come to America.


Well the website data has to travel from America to Europe in order to be displayed on a European computer.
 
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