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2020-09-26 3:03:23 AM  
Look... if the Republicans *actually* wanted Roe overturned it would have happened by now.

Point is, Roe is their golden calf and overturning it basically shoots it in the head. They're not gonna do that.

Honestly, they're happier having Roe as an issue than a victory.

The day Roe is overturned is the day they lose like 80% of the reasons people still openly say they support their party. Once Roe is gone the people will have no messaging they can say in public without using the n-word.
 
2020-09-26 3:42:12 AM  
I do volunteer work at an abortion clinic. On most days, I see 10 to 25 or more women daily, coming in for counseling, procedures and follow-ups. Basically, the abortion clinic helps over 100 different women each week; over 5000 annually. The clinic provides needed services to women across all ethic, racial and economic groups.

We have various protesters harassing patients, staff and volunteers as well. We see a core group of about 10-15 regulars with guest appearances from both local and out-of-state protest "tourists." The number of protestors ranges from zero to 3 daily, sometimes climbing to 10 or more, especially when cult families come with their kids or out-of-state hate groups show up.

I believe women absolutely need access to abortion and birth control services. More women use these services than the total number of "forced-birth" protestors who show up in totality.

/Fark Evangelicals, Catholics, other anti-birth control religions.
//Fark Republicans and Trump for forcing women into being their incubator slaves.
 
2020-09-26 4:40:52 AM  
Get ready for the crime boom in 20 years when those unwanted babies end up in a "work force" that has no jobs.

The day Roe is overturned is the day they lose like 80% of the reasons people still openly say they support their party. Once Roe is gone the people will have no messaging they can say in public without using the n-word.

And this⬆

That's their wedge issue. It's stupid, but people think a clump of cells is life. I have skin tumors that are "alive," if this is the qualification for life.
 
2020-09-26 4:51:48 AM  

Cubansaltyballs: Look... if the Republicans *actually* wanted Roe overturned it would have happened by now.

Point is, Roe is their golden calf and overturning it basically shoots it in the head. They're not gonna do that.

Honestly, they're happier having Roe as an issue than a victory.

The day Roe is overturned is the day they lose like 80% of the reasons people still openly say they support their party. Once Roe is gone the people will have no messaging they can say in public without using the n-word.


When Roe v. Wade is overturned, the pitch will shift to keeping Republicans in power to enact now-Constitutional abortion restrictions at the federal level and to prevent Democrats from appointing judges who might protect abortion rights again in the future.
 
2020-09-26 4:55:17 AM  
They'll restrict it. They'll make noise about repealing it to get out the slack jawed yokels. But, this just means that wealthy southern girls have to go on vacation to California or New York when they have a "problem".
Poor? Looks like you're a horrible slut that should be punished.
 
2020-09-26 4:58:55 AM  
Fortunately, Roe will not be over turned.  Vice President Biden will win and we will pack the SCOTUS will progressives.  We will actually expand abortion rights, implement Medicare for all and legally take the guns.
 
2020-09-26 5:02:09 AM  
With or without Roe v Wade. Abortions are still gonna happen. If R v W gets repeal it'll be just like it was. Back ally clinics and more deaths due to botched abortions.
 
2020-09-26 5:05:43 AM  
'Abortion as age based discrimination'  is a new way of looking at it, I'll give them that.

I would call my tour "Abortion: Thinking outside the box"
 
2020-09-26 5:08:17 AM  

Cubansaltyballs: Look... if the Republicans *actually* wanted Roe overturned it would have happened by now.

Point is, Roe is their golden calf and overturning it basically shoots it in the head. They're not gonna do that.

Honestly, they're happier having Roe as an issue than a victory.

The day Roe is overturned is the day they lose like 80% of the reasons people still openly say they support their party. Once Roe is gone the people will have no messaging they can say in public without using the n-word.


They can repeal it. They can use just the *threat* that Dems might reinstate Roe v. Wade as a goad to get mouthbreathers to the polls.  The actual bill isn't necessary.

For that matter, there's any number of other issues they can use, such as birth control and divorce.
 
2020-09-26 5:08:32 AM  
This is the car the Republican dogs are chasing. They have absolutely no plan for what happens when they catch the car. They don't even know WHY they're anti abortion, how they were manipulated into being anti abortion. It happened when the evangelicals lost on the civil rights issue and needed another rallying point. Frank Schaffer suggested abortion as the new rallying cry and he's regretted it since.
 
2020-09-26 5:08:55 AM  

Freschel: With or without Roe v Wade. Abortions are still gonna happen. If R v W gets repeal it'll be just like it was. Back ally clinics and more deaths due to botched abortions.


That is just how right-wing Christians want it.
 
2020-09-26 5:10:11 AM  
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2020-09-26 5:13:24 AM  
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2020-09-26 5:17:31 AM  

Cubansaltyballs: Look... if the Republicans *actually* wanted Roe overturned it would have happened by now.

Point is, Roe is their golden calf and overturning it basically shoots it in the head. They're not gonna do that.

Honestly, they're happier having Roe as an issue than a victory.

The day Roe is overturned is the day they lose like 80% of the reasons people still openly say they support their party. Once Roe is gone the people will have no messaging they can say in public without using the n-word.


And it will galvanize liberals and a lot of people who otherwise don't vote.  They know that.  The status quo is preferable to them.
 
2020-09-26 5:19:40 AM  

Cubansaltyballs: Look... if the Republicans *actually* wanted Roe overturned it would have happened by now.

Point is, Roe is their golden calf and overturning it basically shoots it in the head. They're not gonna do that.

Honestly, they're happier having Roe as an issue than a victory.

The day Roe is overturned is the day they lose like 80% of the reasons people still openly say they support their party. Once Roe is gone the people will have no messaging they can say in public without using the n-word.


Well, maybe. Aren't they still upset about gay marriage?
 
2020-09-26 5:21:42 AM  
This is the thread where we look at what religious fundamentalists will logically do while downplaying what they've already done I see.
 
2020-09-26 5:32:34 AM  
The right to abortion is a basic right to self defense. If my life or my body are in imminent danger I can use whatever means necessary to prevent further damage or death. The end.
 
2020-09-26 5:33:35 AM  

Cubansaltyballs: Honestly, they're happier having Roe as an issue than a victory.


Yes, if they were smart, and strategic, yes.

But the entire party knows that overturning RvW is one of the big purposes of their party. The GOP is a means to an end. For most of their voters, RvW is that end.

The smart, strategic members know they must pay the piper or discover that their party will eat them alive and leave them actually dead. This summer proved that. The support for police, the support for Trump, all that tear gas and stuff? That is the price the GOP voters are willing to pay to repeal RvW and the mandarins understand how close they are.

If anything, the strategic, smart GOP members who think like you are the former senators and White Housers currently backing Biden. In doing so, they out themselves a RINOs who are acting exactly as you say.

If they repeal RvW though, those voters don't lose anything. In fact, they will replace the smart strategic RINO leaders for the next elections.
 
2020-09-26 5:34:01 AM  

Spartapuss: This is the thread where we look at what religious fundamentalists will logically do while downplaying what they've already done I see.


I'm not seeing that. Did you read TFA?

TFA just highlights what a campaign issue Roe vs Wade is. It's been that way for decades including many years of Republican domination of congress. It hasn't changed. Why do you think that is?

It's because it's too good a campaign issue to actually win and thus give up. But you're telling me that assessment is wrong.

I'd love if you could expand your idea please, I live in a country where this is barely a political issue (abortion never comes up at election time, protesters have to keep a distance and the only pollitical issue is should protests be banned entirely), I'm fascinated with how things work in the US.
 
2020-09-26 5:35:45 AM  
I thought I'd read somewhere that the new nominee wouldn't vote to overturn abortion rights but that her line is about who pays for these things.  Because using the government to pool money together and pay for things is wrong.

/yet she will accept a paycheck
//she's still kooky, just in other special ways
 
2020-09-26 5:36:19 AM  

Bennie Crabtree: The smart, strategic members know they must pay the piper or discover that their party will eat them alive and leave them actually dead.


This is one of those things that's been proven wrong time and time again. No they won't. They'll double down!
 
2020-09-26 5:38:33 AM  

Aussie_As: Spartapuss: This is the thread where we look at what religious fundamentalists will logically do while downplaying what they've already done I see.

I'm not seeing that. Did you read TFA?

TFA just highlights what a campaign issue Roe vs Wade is. It's been that way for decades including many years of Republican domination of congress. It hasn't changed. Why do you think that is?

It's because it's too good a campaign issue to actually win and thus give up. But you're telling me that assessment is wrong.

I'd love if you could expand your idea please, I live in a country where this is barely a political issue (abortion never comes up at election time, protesters have to keep a distance and the only pollitical issue is should protests be banned entirely), I'm fascinated with how things work in the US.


https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.o​r​g/issues/abortion/federal-and-state-ba​ns-and-restrictions-abortion
 
2020-09-26 5:41:01 AM  

Spartapuss: Aussie_As: Spartapuss: This is the thread where we look at what religious fundamentalists will logically do while downplaying what they've already done I see.

I'm not seeing that. Did you read TFA?

TFA just highlights what a campaign issue Roe vs Wade is. It's been that way for decades including many years of Republican domination of congress. It hasn't changed. Why do you think that is?

It's because it's too good a campaign issue to actually win and thus give up. But you're telling me that assessment is wrong.

I'd love if you could expand your idea please, I live in a country where this is barely a political issue (abortion never comes up at election time, protesters have to keep a distance and the only pollitical issue is should protests be banned entirely), I'm fascinated with how things work in the US.

https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.or​g/issues/abortion/federal-and-state-ba​ns-and-restrictions-abortion


Yep, alright, that's a great place to start and I'll work out the rest from there. Thanks for an answer that's both sensible and pointed, I agree I probably could have thought of that myself. Cheers and have a good one.
 
2020-09-26 5:48:59 AM  

Cubansaltyballs: Look... if the Republicans *actually* wanted Roe overturned it would have happened by now.

Point is, Roe is their golden calf and overturning it basically shoots it in the head. They're not gonna do that.

Honestly, they're happier having Roe as an issue than a victory.

The day Roe is overturned is the day they lose like 80% of the reasons people still openly say they support their party. Once Roe is gone the people will have no messaging they can say in public without using the n-word.


"Keep it illegal. The Democrats will bring it back!" Boom, their new argument. And/or move to some other stupidly regressive policy.
 
2020-09-26 5:49:00 AM  
Republicans, here's something you should know:

Repealing Roe v. Wade will not stop abortions. It will just create a black market for them.

We tried making marijuana illegal for decades. How did that turn out?
 
2020-09-26 5:52:12 AM  

Jurodan: "Keep it illegal. The Democrats will bring it back!" Boom, their new argument. And/or move to some other stupidly regressive policy.


It was always a replacement for segregation, even if they don't remember it themselves.  And Donnie is already trying that one out, with his crap about saving the suburbs from black people.. as if they're not there now.
 
2020-09-26 5:52:42 AM  

FatherChaos: Republicans, here's something you should know:

Repealing Roe v. Wade will not stop abortions. It will just create a black market for them.

We tried making marijuana illegal for decades. How did that turn out?


The Republican answer is "awesome, we've got a significantly large prison-based workforce turing out essentially slave-labour production as a result. The shareholders of the corporations we privatised prisons to have never been happier."
 
2020-09-26 5:57:44 AM  

Jurodan: Cubansaltyballs: Look... if the Republicans *actually* wanted Roe overturned it would have happened by now.

Point is, Roe is their golden calf and overturning it basically shoots it in the head. They're not gonna do that.

Honestly, they're happier having Roe as an issue than a victory.

The day Roe is overturned is the day they lose like 80% of the reasons people still openly say they support their party. Once Roe is gone the people will have no messaging they can say in public without using the n-word.

"Keep it illegal. The Democrats will bring it back!" Boom, their new argument. And/or move to some other stupidly regressive policy.


Precisely. I think the people who think Roe vs Wade is untouchable are severely underestimating the enemy.
 
2020-09-26 6:00:32 AM  
"This is a historic retrograde moment for the pro-life movement, American women and their healthcare
 
2020-09-26 6:06:56 AM  
ms PSCOTUSN how does it feel to worship an uncaring god who abandoned you?
 
2020-09-26 6:09:01 AM  

FatherChaos: Republicans, here's something you should know:

Repealing Roe v. Wade will not stop abortions. It will just create a black market for them.

We tried making marijuana illegal for decades. How did that turn out?


You don't think Republicans have enjoyed putting people in jail for the last 50 years under the War on Drugs? That's their jam. They would enjoy it if abortion was made illegal, too.
 
2020-09-26 6:09:36 AM  
"Don't talk about the Supreme Court, that's just fearmongering"

Thanks, shiatheads
 
2020-09-26 6:12:40 AM  

Cubansaltyballs: Look... if the Republicans *actually* wanted Roe overturned it would have happened by now.

Point is, Roe is their golden calf and overturning it basically shoots it in the head. They're not gonna do that.

Honestly, they're happier having Roe as an issue than a victory.

The day Roe is overturned is the day they lose like 80% of the reasons people still openly say they support their party. Once Roe is gone the people will have no messaging they can say in public without using the n-word.


Make no mistake, they will overturn it, just as they will overturn marriage equality, and the ACA.  The GOP is just another religious power cult.  They would love nothing more than to be able to hold a constitutional convention and craft it in God's name, whatever that happens to mean to them.  Don't let the actual words of people like Amy Coney Barrett be downplayed.  They drool over the thought of a Christian theocracy.  And Trump couldn't give half a shiat about any of it so long as he stays out of prison and comfortable.  We are dealing with terrible people and there are as yet unknown depths to which they will sink to get what they want.
 
2020-09-26 6:17:14 AM  
-Overturn Roe v Wade
-Red states enact abortion bans.
-Red states also make it illegal to cross state lines for the purposes of an abortion
-doctors will have to report pregnancies to some state agency
-an expectant mother will be investigated if she loses a child
It's coming
 
2020-09-26 6:20:19 AM  

Aussie_As: FatherChaos: Republicans, here's something you should know:

Repealing Roe v. Wade will not stop abortions. It will just create a black market for them.

We tried making marijuana illegal for decades. How did that turn out?

The Republican answer is "awesome, we've got a significantly large prison-based workforce turing out essentially slave-labour production as a result. The shareholders of the corporations we privatised prisons to have never been happier."


This. They know full well that as their plane to legally suppress birth control and abortion advance, there will be MORE abortions - not fewer.
The important thing, to them, is that our society will have branded those acts as sin, and will PUNISH them - thus placing us on God's side.
That's what it's about - it never had a damn thing to do with saving babies.
 
2020-09-26 6:33:30 AM  

Spartapuss: This is the thread where we look at what religious fundamentalists will logically do while downplaying what they've already done I see.


I will punch you in the stomach and throw you down the stairs if you tell me you want abortion outlawed
 
2020-09-26 6:35:51 AM  
The Republican end game is authoritarianism. They don't need wedge issues like Roe to sway voters when there are no fair and free elections anymore. What voters care about means absolutely nothing when there is no voting or votes aren't really counted.
 
2020-09-26 6:41:24 AM  

Cubansaltyballs: Look... if the Republicans *actually* wanted Roe overturned it would have happened by now.

Point is, Roe is their golden calf and overturning it basically shoots it in the head. They're not gonna do that.

Honestly, they're happier having Roe as an issue than a victory.

The day Roe is overturned is the day they lose like 80% of the reasons people still openly say they support their party. Once Roe is gone the people will have no messaging they can say in public without using the n-word.


I really don't know how you can think that.  There is a mountain of evidence that proves that they're being completely sincere in their efforts to overturn roe versus Wade.  And even if they do get rid of it, the wedge issue will become we need to keep abortion illegal rather than we need to make abortion illegal. So they will still have that tool in their shed, so to speak.
 
2020-09-26 6:42:52 AM  
Also, someone on here in the know can correct me of I'm wrong, but isn't the decision on roe versus Wade based on privacy between the patient and the doctor?  If the Supreme Court rules that roe versus Wade decision was unconstitutional, doesn't that mean that privacy between you and your doctor is no longer a right?
 
2020-09-26 6:45:46 AM  
(her bod her choice)
 
2020-09-26 6:52:56 AM  
Reversing Roe v Wade on religious grounds violates the 1st Amendment.
 
2020-09-26 6:53:53 AM  

Freschel: With or without Roe v Wade. Abortions are still gonna happen. If R v W gets repeal it'll be just like it was. Back ally clinics and more deaths due to botched abortions.


That's their plan. That biatch was asking for it.
 
2020-09-26 6:54:08 AM  

Cythraul: Also, someone on here in the know can correct me of I'm wrong, but isn't the decision on roe versus Wade based on privacy between the patient and the doctor?  If the Supreme Court rules that roe versus Wade decision was unconstitutional, doesn't that mean that privacy between you and your doctor is no longer a right?


No. It means a fetus will be seen as a human with the same Constitutional rights as an adult.  Since a fetus cannot make its own decisions, the federal government will gladly make those decisions. The mother will have no say in the process.
 
2020-09-26 7:31:38 AM  

Cubansaltyballs: Look... if the Republicans *actually* wanted Roe overturned it would have happened by now.

Point is, Roe is their golden calf and overturning it basically shoots it in the head. They're not gonna do that.

Honestly, they're happier having Roe as an issue than a victory.

The day Roe is overturned is the day they lose like 80% of the reasons people still openly say they support their party. Once Roe is gone the people will have no messaging they can say in public without using the n-word.


You're giving Republicans too much credit.

Abortion was already the rebound social issue the Evangelicals latched onto once segregation was legally settled.  If abortion is legally settled, they'll just move onto something else, probably LGBT rights, as the new "greatest moral issue of our time" that the only way to prove you're on the right side of is to vote straight-ticket Republican forever.

There will always be a boogeyman.  People can't just abandon the self-righteous high of being "right" just because they decisively won.  They'll simply pick a new drug.
 
2020-09-26 7:45:46 AM  

FatherChaos: Republicans, here's something you should know:

Repealing Roe v. Wade will not stop abortions. It will just create a black market for them.

We tried making marijuana illegal for decades. How did that turn out?


Abortion these days mostly happens with pills.  Even in the most oppressive theocracies this is done legally.  You simply can't stop it.  What it will do is create a climate of fear amongst young women, minorities, and the poor.  Meanwhile law enforcement will be busy enforcing far right Christian morality, yay.
Of course the wealthy can simply take their daughters to Canada, or send their mistresses on vacations to Italy to have this operation done on the DL.
Meanwhile expect significant civil unrest in the US, because tearing society apart is what the GOP does.
As a reminder several red states proposed capital punishment for women who get abortions and of course providers who do them.  Women will need a doctor and lawyers documents if they have a miscarriage to avoid the religious courts sentencing them to death.
Are we MAGA yet?
 
2020-09-26 7:58:48 AM  

FatherChaos: Republicans, here's something you should know:

Repealing Roe v. Wade will not stop abortions. It will just create a black market for them.

We tried making marijuana illegal for decades. How did that turn out?


It turned out exactly how they wanted. They can punish poor/other people.

Law for conservatives is not a standard we all should live by but the power of government to punish and control other people.
 
2020-09-26 8:00:38 AM  
It has nothing to do with saving babies. It is about punishing 'whores'.

For proof just look at the infant mortality rate is conservative states. They don't give two farks about the wellbeing of the child or mother. No lives matter to them.
 
2020-09-26 8:12:14 AM  
How will the government determine a miscarriage from an abortion? That's the question I always shove in the face of these regressive biatches.
 
2020-09-26 8:12:58 AM  
What was that? The "Make Handmaidens Tale a reality tour?"
 
2020-09-26 8:15:49 AM  

Cubansaltyballs: Look... if the Republicans *actually* wanted Roe overturned it would have happened by now.

Point is, Roe is their golden calf and overturning it basically shoots it in the head. They're not gonna do that.

Honestly, they're happier having Roe as an issue than a victory.

The day Roe is overturned is the day they lose like 80% of the reasons people still openly say they support their party. Once Roe is gone the people will have no messaging they can say in public without using the n-word.


Nope. Overturning Roe only makes banning abortion legal at the state level. It does not ban abortion nationally, so blue states will still have legal abortion. So the next step after overturning Roe will be a national ban, which they will absolutely try to do.

That, and not overturning Roe would require a measure of restraint on Republicans' part that they no longer have.
 
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