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(Politico)   DOJ releases Interview with FBI agent on Mueller's team who thought that Flynn lied to the FBI about contacts with the Russian Ambassador "to save his job" rather than to hide the fact that he was a Russian agent..which would make it totally OK then   (politico.com) divider line
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2020-09-25 4:38:58 PM  
Well, THAT'S it. It was a witch hunt all along. This guy's opinion just proves it.

Phew, glad we got that out of the way.
 
2020-09-25 5:55:42 PM  
So correct me if I am wrong.

One investigator had doubts about the Flynn case. But same investigator said there was merit to all of it?
 
2020-09-25 8:10:26 PM  
This is the first Administration that requires job applicants to fail their pre-employment polygraph.
 
2020-09-25 10:09:54 PM  
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2020-09-25 10:12:33 PM  
This seems totally normal. Yup. Super normal.
 
2020-09-25 10:14:42 PM  
How is that not saying the same thing in different words?
 
2020-09-25 10:19:35 PM  
Well it's like when you rob a bank but they let you go because you were just a little short on cash instead of trying to get drug money.  Totally okay.
 
2020-09-25 10:24:05 PM  
That's the smell of desperation.
 
2020-09-25 10:25:42 PM  
They're still cleaning up after The Report, huh?

They must have seen the full version.
 
2020-09-25 10:26:14 PM  
WTF was Flynn talking about anyways?

For some reason, remote viewing tells me it was a hemp farm in Ukraine, but that can't be accurate.
 
2020-09-25 10:26:31 PM  
Save his job by hiding the fact that he was a Russian agent.
 
2020-09-25 10:28:13 PM  
But he did lie.
 
2020-09-25 10:30:56 PM  

RyogaM: But he did lie.


and he later when he did his allocution admitted he lied, multiple times.
 
2020-09-25 10:32:40 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: So correct me if I am wrong.

One investigator had doubts about the Flynn case. But same investigator said there was merit to all of it?


And says that him expressing his doubts curbed a number of decisions on how they proceeded with the case rather than trying to shut him out in favor of groupthink.

Like, it's one thing to think "this was wrongheaded" but trying to weave this into "this was a partisan objective that was driven by political ends" is hard when your testimony conveys Trump's critics were sincere in their beliefs.
 
2020-09-25 10:46:03 PM  

GWSuperfan: [Fark user image 850x724]


Excuse me, he changed his mind and the DOJ, led by people appointed by his co-conspirators, agreed that's okay, Escargot he's innocent.
 
2020-09-25 10:56:11 PM  

GWSuperfan: [Fark user image 850x724]


What part of this can't they understand .. Maybe I can explain it to them .. He lied .. He admitted he lied ..
 
2020-09-25 11:02:06 PM  
"Though Barnett said he repeatedly expressed those doubts to colleagues and superiors - and says he feared groupthink and a "get Trump" attitude was driving the investigation forward - he continued to be included in the work of Mueller's attorneys during sensitive interviews."

Well he sure was proven right. They got Trump and locked him right up and threw away the key!
Mean old Mueller was just another RINO out to persecute the King.
 
2020-09-25 11:13:35 PM  
The Russian collusion was totally made up stories don't get nearly as much play as the Trump is a Russian agent stories.

2+ years that farce of a story went on and there was literally nothing real about any of it.

Is there an entity on the planet as bad at their job as American news media?
 
2020-09-25 11:15:22 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: The Russian collusion was totally made up stories don't get nearly as much play as the Trump is a Russian agent stories.
2+ years that farce of a story went on and there was literally nothing real about any of it.


How do you know this?
 
2020-09-25 11:23:06 PM  
He was only charged with this because he cooperated.  He is guilty of other more serious crimes, such as acting as an unregistered agent of a foreign government while part of the Trump campaign.  He took money from foreign governments and then advised the campaign and government on exactly the interests of those foreign governments.  Arguing about this is ignoring all those other crimes.
 
2020-09-25 11:27:33 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: The Russian collusion was totally made up stories don't get nearly as much play as the Trump is a Russian agent stories.

2+ years that farce of a story went on and there was literally nothing real about any of it.

Is there an entity on the planet as bad at their job as American news media?


Is it totally normal to share polling data of our US citizens to foreign governments?  What was the purpose?  Trump ok'ed that, Manafort carried that out, but nobody would turn him in.

What Flynn did, however, if memory serves, worked with the oligarchs to prepare overturning Russian sanctions, against the interests of US government, through a back channel before Trump was inaugurated.  And told other lies, but pled guilty to a great condensed ball of lies.
 
2020-09-25 11:28:17 PM  
Never before in the history of the DOJ has it searched for and released every scrap of paper possible to help the defense.   It will also never happen again.   It's good to be the friend of a corrupt president.
 
2020-09-25 11:32:42 PM  

Ishkur: GrizzlyPouch: The Russian collusion was totally made up stories don't get nearly as much play as the Trump is a Russian agent stories.
2+ years that farce of a story went on and there was literally nothing real about any of it.

How do you know this?


I mean how many stories showing it do you need to see?  We already the FBI faked an email to get the FISA warrants on Carter page:

https://apnews.com/article/b9b3c7ef39​8​d00d5dfee9170d66cefec

we know that the Russian were actually feeding Chris Steele disinformation for his dossier (in other words, everything in it is made up):
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/us​/​politics/steele-dossier-declassified-f​ootnotes-ig-report.amp.html

Those 2 stories should be all you need, but just google it you've got plenty more.  There's the IG report that heavily criticized the FBI for it.  Now this guy is telling you how and why it was made up.

But beyond that, just think about it.  I mean do you think the New York Times, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC etc just gave up looking for the evidence if it's out there?

Why do you think they've stopped reporting on it?
 
2020-09-25 11:37:59 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: Ishkur: GrizzlyPouch: The Russian collusion was totally made up stories don't get nearly as much play as the Trump is a Russian agent stories.
2+ years that farce of a story went on and there was literally nothing real about any of it.

How do you know this?

I mean how many stories showing it do you need to see?  We already the FBI faked an email to get the FISA warrants on Carter page:

https://apnews.com/article/b9b3c7ef398​d00d5dfee9170d66cefec

we know that the Russian were actually feeding Chris Steele disinformation for his dossier (in other words, everything in it is made up):
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/us/​politics/steele-dossier-declassified-f​ootnotes-ig-report.amp.html

Those 2 stories should be all you need, but just google it you've got plenty more.  There's the IG report that heavily criticized the FBI for it.  Now this guy is telling you how and why it was made up.

But beyond that, just think about it.  I mean do you think the New York Times, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC etc just gave up looking for the evidence if it's out there?

Why do you think they've stopped reporting on it?


You're (probably intentionally) getting some of this wrong.  The guy who altered an email did so on a renewal of a Carter Page FISA warrant.  The initial FISA warrant into Carter Page has never been questioned.  He was under surveillance going as far back as 2014.
 
2020-09-25 11:40:35 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: I mean how many stories showing it do you need to see? We already the FBI faked an email to get the FISA warrants on Carter page:


Wait wait wait. This is the best part.

Because you just said and I quoth you: Is there an entity on the planet as bad at their job as American news media?

Yet what are you relying on to support your claim?
 
2020-09-25 11:50:38 PM  
Let's not forget - if I recall correctly, but I'm open to correction... I mean there are so many indicted and convicted assholes around Trump that it's hard to keep them straight - the judge took an extraordinarily unusual step and told Flynn to go home and think about it and make sure he was extra super duper certain sure he was guilty and come back the next day. before the judge would accept the plea, so there was no doubt he was guilty or coerced or second guessing himself.

And flynn did.

And flynn came back and pleaded guilty.

Flynn is a traitor, and his sentence reflects kind consideration for his plea and his family.

tl;dr:  *FARK* that guy.
 
2020-09-25 11:59:07 PM  

GrizzlyPouch: Is there an entity on the planet as bad at their job as American news media?


Uhhhh....you?
 
2020-09-26 12:11:12 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: Ishkur: GrizzlyPouch: The Russian collusion was totally made up stories don't get nearly as much play as the Trump is a Russian agent stories.
2+ years that farce of a story went on and there was literally nothing real about any of it.

How do you know this?

I mean how many stories showing it do you need to see?  We already the FBI faked an email to get the FISA warrants on Carter page:

https://apnews.com/article/b9b3c7ef398​d00d5dfee9170d66cefec

we know that the Russian were actually feeding Chris Steele disinformation for his dossier (in other words, everything in it is made up):
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/us/​politics/steele-dossier-declassified-f​ootnotes-ig-report.amp.html

Those 2 stories should be all you need, but just google it you've got plenty more.  There's the IG report that heavily criticized the FBI for it.  Now this guy is telling you how and why it was made up.

But beyond that, just think about it.  I mean do you think the New York Times, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC etc just gave up looking for the evidence if it's out there?

Why do you think they've stopped reporting on it?


They've stopped reporting on it because, as of now, there's really nothing to add.  And Trump has a way of replacing an old scandal with 2 new ones, so the press moves on.

That said the modified email on the renewal and the Steele dossier were mostly immaterial to the overall case.

Not to mention we now know the investigation into Trump was kneecapped from the start.  And the Senate report, the Republican lead Senate report, came to many of the same conclusions and went even further in some cases.

Funny how you guys never mention the Senate report.  I suspect Fox, Newsmax and OANN pretend it doesn't exist.
 
2020-09-26 12:21:10 AM  

Ishkur: GrizzlyPouch: The Russian collusion was totally made up stories don't get nearly as much play as the Trump is a Russian agent stories.
2+ years that farce of a story went on and there was literally nothing real about any of it.

How do you know this?


According to my Farkie, in one thread he literally told Farkers it was too bad the collusion story wasn't true because it would be better if Russia had more influence in the US
 
2020-09-26 12:26:28 AM  
We should for sure have forgiven a national security advisor who would lie to the FBI to protect his job rather than the American people. That all sounds fine.

/Putin has a penis that is only .5 mm's larger than Donald Trump's world record small penis
 
2020-09-26 12:33:25 AM  

Troy McClure: GrizzlyPouch: Ishkur: GrizzlyPouch: The Russian collusion was totally made up stories don't get nearly as much play as the Trump is a Russian agent stories.
2+ years that farce of a story went on and there was literally nothing real about any of it.

How do you know this?

I mean how many stories showing it do you need to see?  We already the FBI faked an email to get the FISA warrants on Carter page:

https://apnews.com/article/b9b3c7ef398​d00d5dfee9170d66cefec

we know that the Russian were actually feeding Chris Steele disinformation for his dossier (in other words, everything in it is made up):
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/us/​politics/steele-dossier-declassified-f​ootnotes-ig-report.amp.html

Those 2 stories should be all you need, but just google it you've got plenty more.  There's the IG report that heavily criticized the FBI for it.  Now this guy is telling you how and why it was made up.

But beyond that, just think about it.  I mean do you think the New York Times, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC etc just gave up looking for the evidence if it's out there?

Why do you think they've stopped reporting on it?

You're (probably intentionally) getting some of this wrong.  The guy who altered an email did so on a renewal of a Carter Page FISA warrant.  The initial FISA warrant into Carter Page has never been questioned.  He was under surveillance going as far back as 2014.


Ohh ok.  So the information they found out for the renewal, which would've kept them from getting it if they hadn't lied about it, just doesn't count?

That's the entire point.  Carter Page wasn't some secret Russian agent.  He talked to Russians in an effort to gather info for the CIA.

The FBI knew this and lied about it, and they also knew the Steele Dossier was bogus.  Those were the only two things they used in their FISA applications to justify the investigation.

So knowing that.....you still think there was some sort of truth to it?
 
2020-09-26 12:47:37 AM  

Ishkur: GrizzlyPouch: I mean how many stories showing it do you need to see? We already the FBI faked an email to get the FISA warrants on Carter page:

Wait wait wait. This is the best part.

Because you just said and I quoth you: Is there an entity on the planet as bad at their job as American news media?

Yet what are you relying on to support your claim?


Where did I say them not reporting on it means they're good at journalism?  The problem with the media is they don't report news, they attempt to sow a narrative.

And that's my point.  They aren't even attempting to run a narrative that Trump colluded anymore.  That ship sailed, and they're trying to get as far away as possible
 
2020-09-26 12:48:53 AM  
Atillathepun:

Page and the Steele dossier were immaterial?  They were the entire case.  That was it.  I mean the FBI listed two things in their FISA applications. Page's contacts and Steele.

I don't get it.  I mean it's not just the right, there's been plenty of left wing media that have come out and said it's bogus.

Why do ppl still cling to it?
 
2020-09-26 12:52:32 AM  

GWSuperfan: [Fark user image 850x724]


Exactly exactly this is the thing that everybody forgets. The whole line to the FBI thing is misdirection it's the f****** French drop of this case. While people are arguing about whether the FBI entrapped him or whatever the hell, they're not talking about the multiple other felonies he committed:

First Flynn was a retired military officer, that is in the terms of the Constitution and office of trust or profit under the United States. And a commission as any Farker who had one can tell you is for life. Therefore under the terms of the Constitution and implementing federal law you may not accept money from a foreign government or an entity control by a foreign government without the permission of congress.

We know for a fact that Flynn took almost $100,000 from RTV, which is owned by the Russian government. Ostensibly the money was to give a speech at a banquet and to serve as a commentator on their airwaves but it doesn't matter because either way it was illegal.

We also know that Flynn served as a lobbyist for Turkey (and in that capacity may have tried to arrange for the kidnapped of a prominent Turkish dissident who lives in the United States).. We know this because he admitted to it and he registered eventually as a foreign agent for Turkey. being an unregistered foreign agent is a crime and so is again taking money from a foreign government.

Then we get to the matter of his sf-86 which requires him to list every contact he had with a foreign National for the last 6 months, and which is signed under oath. Material omissions on that form are perjury.

So that's four felonies before we ever talk to the FBI and of course lying to the FBI is another one


Everyone forgets that Flynn signed a plea deal to be allowed to plead to just those two charges and exchange for cooperation with Mueller
 
2020-09-26 12:54:48 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: Troy McClure: GrizzlyPouch: Ishkur: GrizzlyPouch: The Russian collusion was totally made up stories don't get nearly as much play as the Trump is a Russian agent stories.
2+ years that farce of a story went on and there was literally nothing real about any of it.

How do you know this?

I mean how many stories showing it do you need to see?  We already the FBI faked an email to get the FISA warrants on Carter page:

https://apnews.com/article/b9b3c7ef398​d00d5dfee9170d66cefec

we know that the Russian were actually feeding Chris Steele disinformation for his dossier (in other words, everything in it is made up):
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/us/​politics/steele-dossier-declassified-f​ootnotes-ig-report.amp.html

Those 2 stories should be all you need, but just google it you've got plenty more.  There's the IG report that heavily criticized the FBI for it.  Now this guy is telling you how and why it was made up.

But beyond that, just think about it.  I mean do you think the New York Times, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC etc just gave up looking for the evidence if it's out there?

Why do you think they've stopped reporting on it?

You're (probably intentionally) getting some of this wrong.  The guy who altered an email did so on a renewal of a Carter Page FISA warrant.  The initial FISA warrant into Carter Page has never been questioned.  He was under surveillance going as far back as 2014.

Ohh ok.  So the information they found out for the renewal, which would've kept them from getting it if they hadn't lied about it, just doesn't count?

That's the entire point.  Carter Page wasn't some secret Russian agent.  He talked to Russians in an effort to gather info for the CIA.

The FBI knew this and lied about it, and they also knew the Steele Dossier was bogus.  Those were the only two things they used in their FISA applications to justify the investigation.

So knowing that.....you still think there was some sort of truth to it?


All you're trying to do with this is muddy the waters to defend a turncoat Turkish lobbyist.  Page's FISA renewal doesn't have anything to do with this.  It also doesn't have anything to do with any of the other criminals involved with Trump's campaign.  Neither did the Steele Dossier.

Flynn's crimes were committed all on his own, and he was caught because the FBI was listening to the Russian ambassador's calls.
 
2020-09-26 12:55:03 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: Troy McClure: GrizzlyPouch: Ishkur: GrizzlyPouch: The Russian collusion was totally made up stories don't get nearly as much play as the Trump is a Russian agent stories.
2+ years that farce of a story went on and there was literally nothing real about any of it.

How do you know this?

I mean how many stories showing it do you need to see?  We already the FBI faked an email to get the FISA warrants on Carter page:

https://apnews.com/article/b9b3c7ef398​d00d5dfee9170d66cefec

we know that the Russian were actually feeding Chris Steele disinformation for his dossier (in other words, everything in it is made up):
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/us/​politics/steele-dossier-declassified-f​ootnotes-ig-report.amp.html

Those 2 stories should be all you need, but just google it you've got plenty more.  There's the IG report that heavily criticized the FBI for it.  Now this guy is telling you how and why it was made up.

But beyond that, just think about it.  I mean do you think the New York Times, WaPo, CNN, MSNBC etc just gave up looking for the evidence if it's out there?

Why do you think they've stopped reporting on it?

You're (probably intentionally) getting some of this wrong.  The guy who altered an email did so on a renewal of a Carter Page FISA warrant.  The initial FISA warrant into Carter Page has never been questioned.  He was under surveillance going as far back as 2014.

Ohh ok.  So the information they found out for the renewal, which would've kept them from getting it if they hadn't lied about it, just doesn't count?

That's the entire point.  Carter Page wasn't some secret Russian agent.  He talked to Russians in an effort to gather info for the CIA.

The FBI knew this and lied about it, and they also knew the Steele Dossier was bogus.  Those were the only two things they used in their FISA applications to justify the investigation.

So knowing that.....you still think there was some sort of truth to it?


But Steele himself said he couldn't confirm all of his findings.

And what some people don't realize,  if you, as a US citizens go to talk to known Russian agents, FBI and CIA opens a file.
 
2020-09-26 1:07:11 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: Atillathepun:

Page and the Steele dossier were immaterial?  They were the entire case.  That was it.  I mean the FBI listed two things in their FISA applications. Page's contacts and Steele.

I don't get it.  I mean it's not just the right, there's been plenty of left wing media that have come out and said it's bogus.

Why do ppl still cling to it?


Page and Steele had nothing to do with the case against Trump. More deflection.

Page and Steele didn't cause Trump to surround himself with Russian stooges.  Trump hired them.  Trump had a foreign nation offering help, and he gladly accepted it.  Trump did that on his own.
 
2020-09-26 1:13:08 AM  

Magorn: GWSuperfan: [Fark user image 850x724]

Exactly exactly this is the thing that everybody forgets. The whole line to the FBI thing is misdirection it's the f****** French drop of this case. While people are arguing about whether the FBI entrapped him or whatever the hell, they're not talking about the multiple other felonies he committed:

First Flynn was a retired military officer, that is in the terms of the Constitution and office of trust or profit under the United States. And a commission as any Farker who had one can tell you is for life. Therefore under the terms of the Constitution and implementing federal law you may not accept money from a foreign government or an entity control by a foreign government without the permission of congress.

We know for a fact that Flynn took almost $100,000 from RTV, which is owned by the Russian government. Ostensibly the money was to give a speech at a banquet and to serve as a commentator on their airwaves but it doesn't matter because either way it was illegal.

We also know that Flynn served as a lobbyist for Turkey (and in that capacity may have tried to arrange for the kidnapped of a prominent Turkish dissident who lives in the United States).. We know this because he admitted to it and he registered eventually as a foreign agent for Turkey. being an unregistered foreign agent is a crime and so is again taking money from a foreign government.

Then we get to the matter of his sf-86 which requires him to list every contact he had with a foreign National for the last 6 months, and which is signed under oath. Material omissions on that form are perjury.

So that's four felonies before we ever talk to the FBI and of course lying to the FBI is another one


Everyone forgets that Flynn signed a plea deal to be allowed to plead to just those two charges and exchange for cooperation with Mueller


Exactly.  The fact that he signed while the printer ink was still wet means they had him over a barrel on the whole damn lot.
 
2020-09-26 1:13:58 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: Atillathepun:

Page and the Steele dossier were immaterial?  They were the entire case.  That was it.  I mean the FBI listed two things in their FISA applications. Page's contacts and Steele.

I don't get it.  I mean it's not just the right, there's been plenty of left wing media that have come out and said it's bogus.

Why do ppl still cling to it?


Stop lying.  At least try to lie a little more plausibly.  Try not to lie in such a way that it only takes 5 seconds of searching to disprove (paying the least bit of attention works too.)

Seriously.  This isn't even trolling.  It just pointlessly saying inane shiat.  If you actually believe this, I think your caretakers need to cut down on your interwebz time and try a nice walk in the outdoors from time to time.  Or maybe turn off OANN and switch to Blue's Clues.  May improve your cognitive skills.
 
2020-09-26 1:36:44 AM  

Atillathepun: GrizzlyPouch: Atillathepun:

Page and the Steele dossier were immaterial?  They were the entire case.  That was it.  I mean the FBI listed two things in their FISA applications. Page's contacts and Steele.

I don't get it.  I mean it's not just the right, there's been plenty of left wing media that have come out and said it's bogus.

Why do ppl still cling to it?

Stop lying.  At least try to lie a little more plausibly.  Try not to lie in such a way that it only takes 5 seconds of searching to disprove (paying the least bit of attention works too.)

Seriously.  This isn't even trolling.  It just pointlessly saying inane shiat.  If you actually believe this, I think your caretakers need to cut down on your interwebz time and try a nice walk in the outdoors from time to time.  Or maybe turn off OANN and switch to Blue's Clues.  May improve your cognitive skills.



Hopefully he's a hostile foreign agent so he's just doing his job by spreading blatant lies in favor of the GOP. More than likely he's willfully stupid because and no amount of facts or 3rd grade level critical thinking skills will help him, either way:
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2020-09-26 1:50:11 AM  

Atillathepun: GrizzlyPouch: Atillathepun:

Page and the Steele dossier were immaterial?  They were the entire case.  That was it.  I mean the FBI listed two things in their FISA applications. Page's contacts and Steele.

I don't get it.  I mean it's not just the right, there's been plenty of left wing media that have come out and said it's bogus.

Why do ppl still cling to it?

Stop lying.  At least try to lie a little more plausibly.  Try not to lie in such a way that it only takes 5 seconds of searching to disprove (paying the least bit of attention works too.)

Seriously.  This isn't even trolling.  It just pointlessly saying inane shiat.  If you actually believe this, I think your caretakers need to cut down on your interwebz time and try a nice walk in the outdoors from time to time.  Or maybe turn off OANN and switch to Blue's Clues.  May improve your cognitive skills.


I really do wonder if guys like Grizzly do all this lying and trolling for free. I cannot imagine someone that has soooo much time to sit, search for, gather, and finally disseminate so much easily refuted BS on their own time. And in the end all he accomplishes is revealing how much an disingenuous idiot he is.
 
2020-09-26 2:07:21 AM  
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2020-09-26 2:21:53 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: Where did I say them not reporting on it means they're good at journalism? The problem with the media is they don't report news, they attempt to sow a narrative.


Right.

So why are you relying on a media that doesn't report news to support your claim?
 
2020-09-26 2:22:25 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: And that's my point. They aren't even attempting to run a narrative that Trump colluded anymore. That ship sailed, and they're trying to get as far away as possible


You do understand you've just poisoned your own well here, right?
 
2020-09-26 5:15:12 AM  
If someone lies because they think they may have committed a crime but actually didn't, that's pretty shaky ground for what they did / are doing to Flynn. A panel of Democrat judges acting as a prosecution team now.

Overkill, and the blowback is on Democrats now.
 
2020-09-26 5:41:16 AM  
Since Melania is Trump's honeypot handler do you think she had to also fark the secondary tier of assets?

I mean she did moonlight as a prostitute so it probably wasn't a big deal. In fact some of them might have at least tried to please her, unlike Trump.
 
2020-09-26 6:34:05 AM  
There's a lot of nothing in this thread.

Flynn pled guilty.
 
2020-09-26 6:54:36 AM  

Animatronik: If


I see a flaw in your argument.
 
2020-09-26 7:26:40 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: Troy McClure: GrizzlyPouch: Ishkur: GrizzlyPouch: The Russian collusion was totally made up stories don't get nearly as much ... hadn't lied about it, just doesn't count?

That's the entire point.  Carter Page wasn't some secret Russian agent.  He talked to Russians in an effort to gather info for the CIA.

The FBI knew this and lied about it, and they also knew the Steele Dossier was bogus.  Those were the only two things they used in their FISA applications to justify the investigation.

So knowing that.....you still think there was some sort of truth to it?


It literally says, "Tase facts do not constitute all of the facts known to the parties concerning the charged offense; they are bing submitted to demonstrate that sufficient facts exist that the defendant committed the offense to which he is pleading guilty."
 
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