Skip to content
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Twitter)   Place your bets   (twitter.com) divider line
    More: Interesting, shot  
•       •       •

4173 clicks; posted to Politics » on 25 Sep 2020 at 12:39 PM (4 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



104 Comments     (+0 »)
 
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Newest | Show all

 
2020-09-25 10:28:27 AM  
Original Tweet:

 
2020-09-25 10:39:40 AM  
It worked last time.
 
2020-09-25 10:41:43 AM  
fark
 
2020-09-25 10:43:47 AM  
Yes.  We know.  The Electoral College is an arcane holdover from the days when a farmer in North Carolina couldn't possibly know anything about a Presidential candidate from New York.  It needs to f*cking go, as does the Senate.

Next?
 
2020-09-25 10:51:15 AM  
I'm getting the impression that if he wins the EC but not the popular vote, this country will burn, and rightly so.  That would be 3 times....3 friggin' times (in my lifetime) that the loser won on a technicality.  Fark this shiat.
 
2020-09-25 11:07:05 AM  
So it's looking increasingly likely that he has very little chance of even winning the EC
 
2020-09-25 11:20:09 AM  

raerae1980: I'm getting the impression that if he wins the EC but not the popular vote, this country will burn, and rightly so.  That would be 3 times....3 friggin' times (in my lifetime) that the loser won on a technicality.  Fark this shiat.


And all 3 of a certain political party that is doing everything in its power, legal and otherwise, to rig the election in advance and cast doubt on any outcome that does not favor them.  And  yet we still consider them equal partners and a viable, necessary force in the sustaining of the American democratic process.
 
2020-09-25 11:31:51 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: raerae1980: I'm getting the impression that if he wins the EC but not the popular vote, this country will burn, and rightly so.  That would be 3 times....3 friggin' times (in my lifetime) that the loser won on a technicality.  Fark this shiat.

And all 3 of a certain political party that is doing everything in its power, legal and otherwise, to rig the election in advance and cast doubt on any outcome that does not favor them.  And  yet we still consider them equal partners and a viable, necessary force in the sustaining of the American democratic process.


I'm not sure it's "a viable, necessary force" so much as they control a large part of the government. The best case still has them controlling large minorities in the House and Senate, many state governments, and a ton of judges. We can't just ignore them or bypass them.
 
2020-09-25 11:33:37 AM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: raerae1980: I'm getting the impression that if he wins the EC but not the popular vote, this country will burn, and rightly so.  That would be 3 times....3 friggin' times (in my lifetime) that the loser won on a technicality.  Fark this shiat.

And all 3 of a certain political party that is doing everything in its power, legal and otherwise, to rig the election in advance and cast doubt on any outcome that does not favor them.  And  yet we still consider them equal partners and a viable, necessary force in the sustaining of the American democratic process.


Right?  Why is it only Republicans that win like this?
Folks like to point out to me how farked Italian politics are, but they at least have mechanisms in place to end an administration if it fails to do its job.   We don't have any mechanisms.  Where's our "vote of no-confidence" to usher in early elections????  We get Impeachment, and then get to watch them still "govern".
 
2020-09-25 12:20:16 PM  

raerae1980: Benevolent Misanthrope: raerae1980: I'm getting the impression that if he wins the EC but not the popular vote, this country will burn, and rightly so.  That would be 3 times....3 friggin' times (in my lifetime) that the loser won on a technicality.  Fark this shiat.

And all 3 of a certain political party that is doing everything in its power, legal and otherwise, to rig the election in advance and cast doubt on any outcome that does not favor them.  And  yet we still consider them equal partners and a viable, necessary force in the sustaining of the American democratic process.

Right?  Why is it only Republicans that win like this?
Folks like to point out to me how farked Italian politics are, but they at least have mechanisms in place to end an administration if it fails to do its job.   We don't have any mechanisms.  Where's our "vote of no-confidence" to usher in early elections????  We get Impeachment, and then get to watch them still "govern".


Because Republicans love their guys when they do underhanded, prickish shiat like this.  They absolutely love it when the GOP wins, especially when it's by foul means.  It makes them feel powerful.

Democrats, on the other hand, believe in the rule of law and in acting appropriately, and would not put up with this shiat from our Party.  Any politician that acted like this would be so done in Party politics.
 
2020-09-25 12:41:47 PM  
VOTE
 
2020-09-25 12:43:04 PM  
I don't see "Biden wins but Trump sends Bill Barr to shred ballots in every swing state until he gets enough to win"

That's what I'll put my money on!
 
2020-09-25 12:44:34 PM  
I.e.: The only reason trump wins is because we allow backwaters with 15 people within 1000 miles of each other to out weigh the votes of 15 people who happen to live within 100 square feet of each other.
 
2020-09-25 12:45:22 PM  
A Republican has only won the popular vote in 1 of the last 7 presidential elections.

They're batting .142, not even the Mets would sign a batter with that kind of average.
 
2020-09-25 12:45:46 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: raerae1980: Benevolent Misanthrope: raerae1980: I'm getting the impression that if he wins the EC but not the popular vote, this country will burn, and rightly so.  That would be 3 times....3 friggin' times (in my lifetime) that the loser won on a technicality.  Fark this shiat.

And all 3 of a certain political party that is doing everything in its power, legal and otherwise, to rig the election in advance and cast doubt on any outcome that does not favor them.  And  yet we still consider them equal partners and a viable, necessary force in the sustaining of the American democratic process.

Right?  Why is it only Republicans that win like this?
Folks like to point out to me how farked Italian politics are, but they at least have mechanisms in place to end an administration if it fails to do its job.   We don't have any mechanisms.  Where's our "vote of no-confidence" to usher in early elections????  We get Impeachment, and then get to watch them still "govern".

Because Republicans love their guys when they do underhanded, prickish shiat like this.  They absolutely love it when the GOP wins, especially when it's by foul means.  It makes them feel powerful.

Democrats, on the other hand, believe in the rule of law and in acting appropriately, and would not put up with this shiat from our Party.  Any politician that acted like this would be so done in Party politics.


Another name for "moral victory" is "loss".
 
2020-09-25 12:46:17 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yes.  We know.  The Electoral College is an arcane holdover from the days when a farmer in North Carolina couldn't possibly know anything about a Presidential candidate from New York.  It needs to f*cking go, as does the Senate.

Next?


I know Nebraska has a unicameral (one house) state legislature, and that is the extent of my knowledge about it. Does it have any inherent disadvantages to the bicameral system at the Federal and other 49 State levels? Any Nebraskan Farkers on here who could help out?
 
2020-09-25 12:46:29 PM  
Better vote like your life depends on it, cause it does.
 
2020-09-25 12:46:31 PM  
Except the odds 538 place on Trump are consistently longer than those offered in betting markets and bookmakers. Election Betting Odds report Trump's probability at 43.5 percent.

What is 538 missing?
 
2020-09-25 12:46:32 PM  
I bet on a tie then riots.
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-09-25 12:46:59 PM  

UNC_Samurai: A Republican has only won the popular vote in 1 of the last 7 presidential elections.

They're batting .142, not even the Mets would sign a batter with that kind of average.


Yes, but baseball's a game where the team that scores the most points wins, unlike the US election system.
 
2020-09-25 12:48:46 PM  

MikeyFuccon: Except the odds 538 place on Trump are consistently longer than those offered in betting markets and bookmakers. Election Betting Odds report Trump's probability at 43.5 percent.

What is 538 missing?


You mean what are the bookmakers missing.
 
2020-09-25 12:49:04 PM  

Walker: I bet on a tie then riots.
[Fark user image image 850x630]


I funnied this, but it looks like it could actually happen
 
2020-09-25 12:49:14 PM  

Walker: I bet on a tie then riots.
[Fark user image 850x630]


Since it's 2020, yeah, it'll probably end in a tie
 
2020-09-25 12:49:18 PM  
The EC is there to solve the following problem:

In a  country with an agrarian economy that uses slave labor, states that have a fark ton of slaves also have a fark ton of economic output that is greater than their proportion of the nation's voting population

Those states demand political power commensurate with their economic output, but, obviously, slaves cannot vote.

The EC is a way for slave owners to have proxy votes for (3/5th of) their slaves

This problem no longer exists, ergo there is no reason to keep the EC
 
2020-09-25 12:49:22 PM  
I should probably pen in a vacation day for Nov 4, huh? Hopefully to celebrate, but just in case...
 
2020-09-25 12:49:56 PM  
Rotten boroughs.
 
2020-09-25 12:51:34 PM  

MikeyFuccon: Except the odds 538 place on Trump are consistently longer than those offered in betting markets and bookmakers. Election Betting Odds report Trump's probability at 43.5 percent.

What is 538 missing?


538 isn't accounting for the R electoral farkery.
 
2020-09-25 12:51:35 PM  

Walker: I bet on a tie then riots.
[Fark user image 850x630]


That is terrifyingly plausible.
 
2020-09-25 12:52:00 PM  
I have been predicting for some time that Trump will again win as he did last time: an Electoral Vote victory while failing to secure the popular vote.
 
2020-09-25 12:52:06 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: MikeyFuccon: Except the odds 538 place on Trump are consistently longer than those offered in betting markets and bookmakers. Election Betting Odds report Trump's probability at 43.5 percent.

What is 538 missing?

You mean what are the bookmakers missing.


Don't the bookmakers base their odds partially on the money being vernon both sides?

It balances the odds because only stupid people bet money on elections...
 
2020-09-25 12:53:23 PM  

raerae1980: I'm getting the impression that if he wins the EC but not the popular vote, this country will burn, and rightly so.  That would be 3 times....3 friggin' times (in my lifetime) that the loser won on a technicality.  Fark this shiat.


Nah.

Thems the rules.

Very stupid rules, but rules none the less.
 
2020-09-25 12:53:43 PM  

Walker: I bet on a tie then riots.
[Fark user image 850x630]


Naw, 3 fronts, and we have the flanks, and better position, just like the last time. 

Pincer movement in the NE then push through MO and KC to unite East and West, encircle the North, leave the 'confederate states' to their bloc, then finish Sherman's work completely this time.

..well you were making predictions based on the map too...
 
2020-09-25 12:54:12 PM  

Farkonaut: I.e.: The only reason trump wins is because we allow backwaters with 15 people within 1000 miles of each other to out weigh the votes of 15 people who happen to live within 100 square feet of each other.


And that will continue to be the way until there is a constitutional amendment abolishing the EC.
Plan/relocate/vote accordingly
 
2020-09-25 12:54:14 PM  
It's all just noise.
I think the mid-terms showed us where this is headed.
 
2020-09-25 12:54:42 PM  
Ow our patriotic balls.
 
2020-09-25 12:55:15 PM  

The Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler: It's all just noise.
I think the mid-terms showed us where this is headed.


To Republicans declaring victory anyway, despite massive losses?
 
2020-09-25 12:55:22 PM  

Dimensio: I have been predicting for some time that Trump will again win as he did last time: an Electoral Vote victory while failing to secure the popular vote.


I personally believe that is his only path to victory.  I don't think there's any way he could win the popular vote, except under extremely unusual circumstances (Biden dies or gets seriously sick or has a "live boy/dead girl" level of scandal).
 
2020-09-25 12:55:43 PM  
If only the Biden campaign could know that it's the EC total that determines the winner of the election and not the popular vote!  This is so unfair!
 
2020-09-25 12:55:55 PM  
There is a greater than zero chance that within a week of the election, the WH barricades will be breached and the WH itself burned to the ground.
 
2020-09-25 12:56:24 PM  

Farkonaut: I.e.: The only reason trump wins is because we allow backwaters with 15 people within 1000 miles of each other to out weigh the votes of 15 people who happen to live within 100 square feet of each other.


So maybe next time the Dems have actual power they can try to fix that?
 
2020-09-25 12:57:39 PM  

GardenWeasel: Farkonaut: I.e.: The only reason trump wins is because we allow backwaters with 15 people within 1000 miles of each other to out weigh the votes of 15 people who happen to live within 100 square feet of each other.

And that will continue to be the way until there is a constitutional amendment abolishing the EC.
Plan/relocate/vote accordingly


Right, if today, a Democrat ever won the EC, and lost the Popular Vote, we all know
it would be abolished before the last ballot was counted.
 
2020-09-25 12:57:54 PM  

HerptheDerp: There is a greater than zero chance that within a week of the election, the WH barricades will be breached and the WH itself burned to the ground.


Um, keep dreaming.  Who exactly is in this army of protestors?  You?
 
2020-09-25 12:58:37 PM  

raerae1980: I'm getting the impression that if he wins the EC but not the popular vote, this country will burn, and rightly so.  That would be 3 times....3 friggin' times (in my lifetime) that the loser won on a technicality.  Fark this shiat.


If we heard about any other country holding an election and then declaring the candidate with the fewer votes the 'winner', we'd write them off as a backwards banana republic. And we'd be right, and it's no different when it's us. It's undemocratic BS.
 
2020-09-25 12:58:46 PM  

raerae1980: I'm getting the impression that if he wins the EC but not the popular vote, this country will burn, and rightly so.  That would be 3 times....3 friggin' times (in my lifetime) that the loser won on a technicality.  Fark this shiat.


opted:The Constitution is a "technicality"

/there are ways to change it, you know
//or just burn everything down because it's more fun
///one would help your cause, the other won't
 
2020-09-25 12:58:50 PM  

dionysusaur: MikeyFuccon: Except the odds 538 place on Trump are consistently longer than those offered in betting markets and bookmakers. Election Betting Odds report Trump's probability at 43.5 percent.

What is 538 missing?

538 isn't accounting for the R electoral farkery.


No one can account for that in models
 
2020-09-25 12:59:11 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: Yes.  We know.  The Electoral College is an arcane holdover from the days when a farmer in North Carolina couldn't possibly know anything about a Presidential candidate from New York.  It needs to f*cking go, as does the Senate.

Next?


Yeah, I suppose you want something stupid like representative government.
 
2020-09-25 12:59:20 PM  
Copy/paste from thread below but relevant here (because Trump doesn't have to win the electoral college vote, just prevent Biden from winning it).

Reminder if you want to be ultra cynical: 9 states (California, Colorado, Hawaii, Nevada, New Jersey, Oregon, Utah, Vermont, and Washington) and Washington DC are going 100% vote by mail. That amounts to 113 electoral votes for Biden in solid Democratic areas vs. 6 electoral votes for Trump in solid Republican areas (none of these states are battlegrounds.)

That means that Biden needs to get 383 electoral votes to not run the risk of the Supreme Court finding in Trump's favor and invalidating all those states' results, which for comparison Obama won in 2008 with 365 electoral votes. If the Supreme Court does that it goes to the House where Trump wins a majority of state delegations.
 
2020-09-25 12:59:29 PM  

jethroe: HerptheDerp: There is a greater than zero chance that within a week of the election, the WH barricades will be breached and the WH itself burned to the ground.

Um, keep dreaming.  Who exactly is in this army of protestors?  You?


Are leftists burning down America or are they not? That's all I read or hear anymore: Democrats are destroying American cities bla bla bla. Riots everywhere.

Make up your goddamned minds.
 
2020-09-25 12:59:48 PM  

Geotpf: Dimensio: I have been predicting for some time that Trump will again win as he did last time: an Electoral Vote victory while failing to secure the popular vote.

I personally believe that is his only path to victory.  I don't think there's any way he could win the popular vote, except under extremely unusual circumstances (Biden dies or gets seriously sick or has a "live boy/dead girl" level of scandal).


At this point his reanimated zombie revenent self could be caught with both and it wouldn't change my vote.
 
2020-09-25 1:00:40 PM  
Fark user imageView Full Size
 
Displayed 50 of 104 comments


Oldest | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | » | Newest | Show all


View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking





On Twitter



  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.