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(Mother Jones)   Attention, rich white Americans: This is a pandemic, not a vacation   (motherjones.com) divider line
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2020-09-25 11:17:21 AM  
Slactivist realizes their privilege. Film at 11.
 
2020-09-25 11:27:44 AM  
Partying in the face of death has been a thing since at least the Bubonic Plague.
 
2020-09-25 11:36:33 AM  
Shhhhhh don't tell them, if they get sick and die we can get their stuff.
 
2020-09-25 11:37:42 AM  
Ffs. Plenty of white people are also suffering from the pandemic. It is a disaster affecting everyone, not orchestrated biological class warfare.
 
2020-09-25 11:37:47 AM  
My house has a strict quarantine policy. I share indoor space with my fiveroommates and a few others in our pod, and only see most friends outdoors, six feet away and/or wearing masks.

Holy shiat, is she from the future?
 
2020-09-25 11:38:36 AM  

FrancoFile: Partying in the face of death has been a thing since at least the Bubonic Plague.


If anything, I feel we're seeing a massive underrepresentation of Wine Doors...
 
2020-09-25 11:38:45 AM  
The wildfire smoke has cleared out, so this morning Mrs. Kitty sent me a photo on her way to work: some rich person in a hot air balloon that costs $2,000ish to ride at the resort where she works.

How much to stay there? If you have to ask, you can't afford it.
 
2020-09-25 11:38:53 AM  
The Masque of the Red Death - Vincent Price (1964) - Official Trailer
Youtube vCUtm7mCF4I
seems appropriate
 
2020-09-25 11:41:26 AM  
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2020-09-25 11:42:07 AM  
Black and Brown people dying is what the rich white people enjoy
 
2020-09-25 11:42:28 AM  

Somaticasual: FrancoFile: Partying in the face of death has been a thing since at least the Bubonic Plague.

If anything, I feel we're seeing a massive underrepresentation of Wine Doors...


I am happy to be a wine donor, where do I sign up? Has to be intravenous, though. All mine is already imbibed.
 
2020-09-25 11:42:58 AM  
*looks up from his hole in the ice*

"Is something going on back in civilization?  I could really use a cheeseburger, and an IMAX when I get back."

Sometimes if you risk dying for science, you end up being the only one NOT at risk.
 
2020-09-25 11:44:54 AM  

Nick Nostril: My house has a strict quarantine policy. I share indoor space with my fiveroommates and a few others in our pod, and only see most friends outdoors, six feet away and/or wearing masks.

Holy shiat, is she from the future?


Sounds as if she's having a whale of a time.
 
2020-09-25 11:45:07 AM  
Or: Douchebag realizes their (gender neutral intended) friends are douchebags, writes about it with literally no self-reflection.
 
2020-09-25 11:45:50 AM  
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2020-09-25 11:46:07 AM  
What a stupid article.
 
2020-09-25 11:46:42 AM  

aungen: *looks up from his hole in the ice*

"Is something going on back in civilization?  I could really use a cheeseburger, and an IMAX when I get back."

Sometimes if you risk dying for science, you end up being the only one NOT at risk.


I feel like I've seen that movie.
 
2020-09-25 11:48:02 AM  
You can vacation if you have the time, regardless of income (unless there's the obvious...), as long as you keep your distance and bring a mask. I've been on a long vacation and a short one so far. The difference between now and pre-COVID? Crowds and/or strangers are now avoided. Which is my type of vacation lol
 
2020-09-25 11:48:03 AM  
White people are the worst.
 
2020-09-25 11:48:16 AM  
everyone is really milking this until November 4. After that, no one will care anymore.
 
2020-09-25 11:48:32 AM  
For rich, white Americans, EVERYTHING is a vacation.
 
2020-09-25 11:48:33 AM  

LarryDan43: Black and Brown people dying is what the rich white people enjoy


I'm not sure black and brown people would even exist if there weren't white people around for comparison purposes.
 
2020-09-25 11:50:25 AM  

abhorrent1: What a stupid article.


I got two words for you:  Mother.Jones.
 
2020-09-25 11:50:54 AM  

The Googles Do Nothing: White people are the worst.


And the Irish!
 
2020-09-25 11:54:13 AM  

Magnus: The Googles Do Nothing: White people are the worst.

And the Irish!


Hey now, the Irish had to come to America first before they could become white.
 
2020-09-25 11:54:25 AM  
Oh, RICH people huh?

MAMMOTH HOT SPRINGS, WY - The park hosted 881,543 recreation visits in August 2020. This is a 7.5% increase from August 2019, making it the second busiest August on record. The busiest August on record was in 2017, the year of the solar eclipse.

But it's not MY consumption that's the problem!
 
2020-09-25 11:55:01 AM  

Magnus: The Googles Do Nothing: White people are the worst.

And the Irish!


And the Dutch. Don't get me started!
 
2020-09-25 11:55:29 AM  
Speaking as a life long white person I really think white people should just shut up.

Especially white women.
Youre the worst.
 
2020-09-25 11:55:40 AM  

Nick Nostril: My house has a strict quarantine policy. I share indoor space with my fiveroommates and a few others in our pod, and only see most friends outdoors, six feet away and/or wearing masks.

Holy shiat, is she from the future?


There are lots of goofy names for people that take strong measures in general public but allow contact within a designated group. The one I am in is referred to as a Quaranteam. Four families. If anyone has a lapse of measures (family member came to visit or traveled on vacation) we don't get together at all until we know everyone is clean.
 
2020-09-25 11:55:50 AM  

H31N0US: Dutch. Don't


"The Dutch are scum."
 
2020-09-25 11:55:53 AM  
It's the end of September.

People have been complaining about magats not taking this seriously for 6 months.

What is the point of this article?  Run up the flag of race relations as an extra layer of COVID?  We know.  What exactly are we supposed to do about it when we can't get people to wear f#cking masks, even by law?
 
2020-09-25 11:57:41 AM  

Herodotus: It is a disaster affecting everyone, not orchestrated biological class warfare.


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2020-09-25 11:58:04 AM  

H31N0US: Magnus: The Googles Do Nothing: White people are the worst.

And the Irish!

And the Dutch. Don't get me started!


No hate for fat Belgian bastards?
 
2020-09-25 12:00:05 PM  

LegacyDL: Magnus: The Googles Do Nothing: White people are the worst.

And the Irish!

Hey now, the Irish had to come to America first before they could become white.


I didn't know the British could throw potatoes that far.
 
2020-09-25 12:01:31 PM  

Herodotus: Ffs. Plenty of white people are also suffering from the pandemic. It is a disaster affecting everyone, not orchestrated biological class warfare.


But it still works out that way, doesn't it, because of how our glorious ECONOMY works. Since the upper classes have worked so hard to insulate themselves from actual work, the "essential workers" can put on a mask, expose themselves, and fill your orders.

great_tigers: everyone is really milking this until November 4. After that, no one will care anymore.


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But it's not YOUR consumption that's the problem!
 
2020-09-25 12:05:22 PM  
Screw all  of y'all.

You forced us back into the classrooms to be exposed. You're damn right I'm going to spend fall break on a Caribbean island.
 
2020-09-25 12:06:03 PM  
It seems like the article's definition of "rich" is "anybody who still has a steady job".
 
2020-09-25 12:06:18 PM  

great_tigers: everyone is really milking this until November 4. After that, no one will care anymore.


Why? What happens November 4th?
 
2020-09-25 12:06:39 PM  
Are the black and brown people being infected by the rich white people?

More class warfare instigation with some race added just for fun
 
2020-09-25 12:06:46 PM  

Declassify Issue: You can vacation if you have the time, regardless of income (unless there's the obvious...), as long as you keep your distance and bring a mask. I've been on a long vacation and a short one so far. The difference between now and pre-COVID? Crowds and/or strangers are now avoided. Which is my type of vacation lol


Plus if you go to the beach and aren't on top of the people near you (who does that anyway), the vitamin D helps keep Covid at bay.  One of the theories I've heard and makes sense is that the darker skin of POC reduces the amount of Vitamin D made.

With a teensy bit of common sense, you can live a relatively normal life and still keep Covid away.
 
2020-09-25 12:06:47 PM  

great_tigers: everyone is really milking this until November 4. After that, no one will care anymore.


Why, is your mom going to run out of milk on November 4?
 
2020-09-25 12:08:28 PM  

lordjupiter: It's the end of September.

People have been complaining about magats not taking this seriously for 6 months.

What is the point of this article?  Run up the flag of race relations as an extra layer of COVID?  We know.  What exactly are we supposed to do about it when we can't get people to wear f#cking masks, even by law?


Point of the article?  Creative class white woman wants to be seen as "one of the good ones" by complaining about white people.
 
2020-09-25 12:10:31 PM  
The premise of the article is all wrong.

COVID-19 kills: as of this week, 200,000 people in our country alone. Barring a miracle vaccine before winter, the worst may be still yet to come. In the San Francisco region where I live, August was the deadliest month of the entire pandemic, with 3,745 lives lost, an 18 percent increase over July. The brunt of this mass death is being borne by Black, Latino, and Indigenous people, particularly those in income brackets lower than my own, where economic necessity forces many to keep packing meat, delivering groceries, dropping off takeout, and cleaning hotels for the rest of us. Our bubble rests on their backs, is kept inflated by the same lungs that coronavirus attacks. None of this is news, but six months into the pandemic, the numbers keep getting worse.

Thanks to institutional racism in American science and medicine, we've only slowly glimpsed a full picture of COVID-19's disparities. By May, it was clear that the states who rushed to re-open saw the most unequal share of Black death. In July, we knew that seven Indigenous tribes had case rates higher than that of any US state. And by September, what had three months prior been a 35 point gap in white and Black mortality rates swelled to 51, according to Andi Egbert of the APM Research Lab. The gap between white and Indigenous grew from 10 to 35, while the over-representation of Latino and Pacific Islander deaths continued to expand as well. When you adjust by age, the disparities get even worse. Today, white people are dying from COVID-19 at lower rates than Black people die without it.


Yes, there is a discrepancy of death rates by race.

HOWEVER, the biggest discrepancy in death rates is by age.  If you are under 50 of any race, the chances of you dying from this virus is nearly zero.  Being a minority merely increases your "Covid Age" by a year or two.  It's a much, much lesser indicator than age.

And there is a medical (IE, non-racist) reason for at least some of this racial discrepancy-Vitamin D.  Low vitamin D levels are associated with worse outcomes of Covid (more likely to be hospitalized, more likely to need a respirator, more likely to die).  People with darker skin have less of an ability to get Vitamin D from the sun and therefore are more likely to have low levels of Vitamin D.  Therefore, people with darker skin are more likely to get seriously ill or die from Covid, all other things (level of medical treatment, income, etc.) being equal merely due to Vitamin D levels.
 
2020-09-25 12:10:59 PM  

Eightballjacket: lordjupiter: It's the end of September.

People have been complaining about magats not taking this seriously for 6 months.

What is the point of this article?  Run up the flag of race relations as an extra layer of COVID?  We know.  What exactly are we supposed to do about it when we can't get people to wear f#cking masks, even by law?

Point of the article?  Creative class white woman wants to be seen as "one of the good ones" by complaining about white people.


While "quarantining" and yet allowing people into their "quarantine" Commune of 5 hippies.

/also, it is apparently good to social distance but it is bad to go out of the city increase social distanfibg
 
2020-09-25 12:11:05 PM  

dothemath: Speaking as a life long white person I really think white people should just shut up.

Especially white women.
Youre the worst.


I can't honestly say I'm a life long white person.

When I feel good, I'm in the pink,
When I'm sick, I turn green,
When I spend too much time in the sun, I turn red,
When I'm cold, I turn blue,
When I'm angry, I turn purple.
That doesn't leave much time to be white.
 
2020-09-25 12:11:46 PM  

Geotpf: The premise of the article is all wrong.

COVID-19 kills: as of this week, 200,000 people in our country alone. Barring a miracle vaccine before winter, the worst may be still yet to come. In the San Francisco region where I live, August was the deadliest month of the entire pandemic, with 3,745 lives lost, an 18 percent increase over July. The brunt of this mass death is being borne by Black, Latino, and Indigenous people, particularly those in income brackets lower than my own, where economic necessity forces many to keep packing meat, delivering groceries, dropping off takeout, and cleaning hotels for the rest of us. Our bubble rests on their backs, is kept inflated by the same lungs that coronavirus attacks. None of this is news, but six months into the pandemic, the numbers keep getting worse.

Thanks to institutional racism in American science and medicine, we've only slowly glimpsed a full picture of COVID-19's disparities. By May, it was clear that the states who rushed to re-open saw the most unequal share of Black death. In July, we knew that seven Indigenous tribes had case rates higher than that of any US state. And by September, what had three months prior been a 35 point gap in white and Black mortality rates swelled to 51, according to Andi Egbert of the APM Research Lab. The gap between white and Indigenous grew from 10 to 35, while the over-representation of Latino and Pacific Islander deaths continued to expand as well. When you adjust by age, the disparities get even worse. Today, white people are dying from COVID-19 at lower rates than Black people die without it.

Yes, there is a discrepancy of death rates by race.

HOWEVER, the biggest discrepancy in death rates is by age.  If you are under 50 of any race, the chances of you dying from this virus is nearly zero.  Being a minority merely increases your "Covid Age" by a year or two.  It's a much, much lesser indicator than age.

And there is a medical (IE, non-racist) reason for at least some of this racial discrepancy-Vitamin D.  Low vitamin D levels are associated with worse outcomes of Covid (more likely to be hospitalized, more likely to need a respirator, more likely to die).  People with darker skin have less of an ability to get Vitamin D from the sun and therefore are more likely to have low levels of Vitamin D.  Therefore, people with darker skin are more likely to get seriously ill or die from Covid, all other things (level of medical treatment, income, etc.) being equal merely due to Vitamin D levels.


Note to POC: Drink your milk

/my vitamin D must be infinite as I am translucent
 
2020-09-25 12:12:40 PM  

dothemath: great_tigers: everyone is really milking this until November 4. After that, no one will care anymore.

Why, is your mom going to run out of milk on November 4?


That's when the crazy mom baby eating cult starts the Great Milkening.
 
2020-09-25 12:14:34 PM  

Geotpf: The premise of the article is all wrong.

COVID-19 kills: as of this week, 200,000 people in our country alone. Barring a miracle vaccine before winter, the worst may be still yet to come. In the San Francisco region where I live, August was the deadliest month of the entire pandemic, with 3,745 lives lost, an 18 percent increase over July. The brunt of this mass death is being borne by Black, Latino, and Indigenous people, particularly those in income brackets lower than my own, where economic necessity forces many to keep packing meat, delivering groceries, dropping off takeout, and cleaning hotels for the rest of us. Our bubble rests on their backs, is kept inflated by the same lungs that coronavirus attacks. None of this is news, but six months into the pandemic, the numbers keep getting worse.

Thanks to institutional racism in American science and medicine, we've only slowly glimpsed a full picture of COVID-19's disparities. By May, it was clear that the states who rushed to re-open saw the most unequal share of Black death. In July, we knew that seven Indigenous tribes had case rates higher than that of any US state. And by September, what had three months prior been a 35 point gap in white and Black mortality rates swelled to 51, according to Andi Egbert of the APM Research Lab. The gap between white and Indigenous grew from 10 to 35, while the over-representation of Latino and Pacific Islander deaths continued to expand as well. When you adjust by age, the disparities get even worse. Today, white people are dying from COVID-19 at lower rates than Black people die without it.

Yes, there is a discrepancy of death rates by race.

HOWEVER, the biggest discrepancy in death rates is by age.  If you are under 50 of any race, the chances of you dying from this virus is nearly zero.  Being a minority merely increases your "Covid Age" by a year or two.  It's a much, much lesser indicator than age.

And there is a medical (IE, non-racist) reason for at least some of  ...



Is the vitamin D thing proven as causation and not correlation, though?

It's just as likely that being inside a lot = increased risk of COVID due to contagiousness/exposure, and also lower D from lack of sun. Same vulnerabilities with a sedentary lifestyle.
 
2020-09-25 12:16:20 PM  
How is this not in the NY Times? I thought they were the official publication for entitled, tone-deaf white people.
 
2020-09-25 12:16:21 PM  

Nick Nostril: Holy shiat, is she from the future?


We all are my friend, it's just hard to notice sometimes.
 
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