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(Washington Post)   University officials planned for months for the resumption of fall classes amid the pandemic, spending millions of dollars to make their campuses as safe as possible, but forgot one little thing: students like to party   (washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2020-09-25 9:46:35 AM  
They didn't forget; they just don't actually care.
 
2020-09-25 10:10:55 AM  
Vengaboys - We like to Party! (The Vengabus)
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2020-09-25 11:06:00 AM  

UberDave: [YouTube video: Vengaboys - We like to Party! (The Vengabus)]


Damn it
 
2020-09-25 11:09:54 AM  
Realistically, they could not have done much else and still attracted students to pay the bills. It all comes down to money.
 
2020-09-25 11:14:39 AM  
"Let's wipe everything down really well so we can't get sued as easily!"

The best expression I heard recently is "The theatre of safety" -- it really describes the excessive sanitizing of surfaces, even after the CDC came out and said surfaces weren't a major factor. It was human-to-human contact above all.

LALALALA We can't hear you!
 
2020-09-25 11:25:08 AM  
They didn't forget. It was open, or lose funding from dorms, sports, food, lab and parking fees.  They chose money,
 
2020-09-25 11:27:06 AM  

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2020-09-25 11:28:33 AM  
I like to party

Do It, Fluid
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2020-09-25 11:28:41 AM  

Pharmdawg: They didn't forget. It was open, or lose funding from dorms, sports, food, lab and parking fees.  They chose money,


And then they shrug their shoulders and blame the students for their awesome safe opening plan not working.
 
2020-09-25 11:29:11 AM  
Beastie Boys - (You Gotta) Fight For Your Right (To Party) (Official Music Video)
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2020-09-25 11:33:50 AM  
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2020-09-25 11:34:41 AM  

Pharmdawg: They didn't forget. It was open, or lose funding from dorms, sports, food, lab and parking fees.  They chose money,


Yup. Our local university refused to refund the athletic fees all students pay even though all sport are cancelled. It's all about the money. Covid cases are increasing in the community, entire fraternity and sorority houses are under quarantine, and very little info is getting to students and employees. But, thankfully no one has died. Yet.
 
2020-09-25 11:34:58 AM  
The only social distancing I was trying to do in college involved spreading legs
 
2020-09-25 11:36:28 AM  
Meanwhile in Belgium ...

Virologists: make the measures more consistent and stricter
Government: these are the more consistent and relaxed measures
Universities to their students: we urge you not to take advantage of the relaxed measures because they make no sense with the rising number of infections

The meme that got shared so much that it made the evening news was: "Press release: we don't know either. Do what you want but be a bit prudent, would ya? And wash your hands."
 
2020-09-25 11:37:02 AM  

exqqqme: The only social distancing I was trying to do in college involved spreading legs


And the girls kept you 6 ft away at all times?
 
2020-09-25 11:38:43 AM  
So like everything else it boils down to the human element.
 
2020-09-25 11:39:16 AM  
...And so the universities were slain, after all their defenses had failed, by the humblest thing that god in his wisdom put upon this earth: horny teenagers looking to get turnt up.
 
2020-09-25 11:48:39 AM  

Pharmdawg: They didn't forget. It was open, or lose funding from dorms, sports, food, lab and parking fees.  They chose money,


Glasgow University has insisted that all students return ... but is teaching them online. You'll all be surprised to hear that bringing 20,000 young people from all over the UK together and then hoping then won't talk to each other while you provide no activities for them is, erm, not going well.
 
2020-09-25 11:50:39 AM  
students like to party

Also many think they are invincible and are too selfish to give much thought to how they'll be infecting others in their community who may be more vulnerable.

Which makes students not so different than a hell of a lot of other people.
 
2020-09-25 11:55:09 AM  

orbister: Pharmdawg: They didn't forget. It was open, or lose funding from dorms, sports, food, lab and parking fees.  They chose money,

Glasgow University has insisted that all students return ... but is teaching them online. You'll all be surprised to hear that bringing 20,000 young people from all over the UK together and then hoping then won't talk to each other while you provide no activities for them is, erm, not going well.


Agreed. The is 7 sorts of farked up.

Right across the country - insist students return to / start uni in person, but only teach them online, thus giving them EVEN MORE FARKING REASON to socialise in order to make new friends.

It can only be about the money. There is no sane reason to do this.
 
2020-09-25 12:07:24 PM  

Pert: orbister: Pharmdawg: They didn't forget. It was open, or lose funding from dorms, sports, food, lab and parking fees.  They chose money,

Glasgow University has insisted that all students return ... but is teaching them online. You'll all be surprised to hear that bringing 20,000 young people from all over the UK together and then hoping then won't talk to each other while you provide no activities for them is, erm, not going well.

Agreed. The is 7 sorts of farked up.

Right across the country - insist students return to / start uni in person, but only teach them online, thus giving them EVEN MORE FARKING REASON to socialise in order to make new friends.

It can only be about the money. There is no sane reason to do this.


It's grotesquely irresponsible and the consequences were completely predictable.
 
2020-09-25 12:20:11 PM  
We have a weekly family video call and I have I guess my cousin's kid starting at ISU this fall. The family tries to say, "yeah there is an outbreak in Ames but little Johnny doesn't go to any of the parties"

Meanwhile, I'm on the other end of the video call...
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2020-09-25 12:22:48 PM  
One of the oldest written documents about university life is a letter from a father to his son (who had written about how mean and terrible university life was - and can he get some cash).  The father's response was, basically "I took the liberty of writing your professors.  According to them, you don't show up for most of your classes, when you do show up you sleep, you go out drinking every night, and you try to fark anything in a skirt. PS, if you want money, get a job"  This is literally been a known thing for a thousand years.  Any university administrator who was unaware of this millennia-long trend is either willfully ignorant or an evil coont.  Or both - best bet is to go with both.
 
2020-09-25 12:24:11 PM  

exqqqme: The only social distancing I was trying to do in college involved spreading legs


And now you can do the splits, I'll bet!
 
2020-09-25 12:24:26 PM  

Cajnik: We have a weekly family video call and I have I guess my cousin's kid starting at ISU this fall. The family tries to say, "yeah there is an outbreak in Ames but little Johnny doesn't go to any of the parties"

Meanwhile, I'm on the other end of the video call...
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Well, Little Johnny probably didn't go to the party - he was most likely hosting it.  Best way to technically not lie to your parents and not have to find your house with a massive hangover.
 
2020-09-25 12:26:37 PM  
Worked for a university at one time.  It was never all the rapes and sexaul assaults that got frats permanently shut down.  It was always them having parties while on probation.

The probation periods were often not that long and you could still go to other peoples parties.  These guys just could never help themselves.
 
2020-09-25 12:32:35 PM  

koder: They didn't forget; they just don't actually care.


Mainly because that's on the kids, the school has no way of being blamed for being the conditions for which kids will be doing things they shouldn't.
Just like they banned all alcohol and the problem was FOREVER SOLVED
 
2020-09-25 12:34:18 PM  

koder: They didn't forget; they just don't actually care.


Which is why they also didn't actually make campuses as safe as possible. They did just enough so that, to people who don't really want to pay attention, it would look like they were doing something.
 
2020-09-25 12:34:49 PM  
A little too much frat boy whining for my taste.
 
2020-09-25 1:19:55 PM  
The total failure of colleges and universities to adequately plan for the most obvious outcome during the biggest crisis of our time basically sums up the value I think most kids are getting from their education these days.

They have epidemiologists, sociologists, education specialists, technology and IT specialists, economists, basically any expert you can think of, to consult with and inform their decision. With PhDs! And a single university administrator can go "eh well we gotta open for football, so suck an egg", take tuition payments, and then not refund them, and have an inadequate distance learning policy to boot.

Thank goodness for those administrators, without whom these 45k/year schools would certainly go out of business. Who would collect the student loan money then?
 
2020-09-25 2:16:58 PM  
There's all this talk about how terrible it was that Universities re-opened, but never do I hear what the alternative would have looked like.

If they had stayed home with their older and more at-risk parents, do you really believe they would not have gone out and partied locally? Would they not have been more distributed throughout communities?  Isn't it maybe (I'm not saying definitely) better to at least have them all in one big bubble?
 
2020-09-25 2:19:34 PM  
I realize many want to make it all about the stupidity of colleges and universities, but let's take a moment to appreciate some of the other stupidity at play here...

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2020-09-25 2:23:27 PM  
Infections may be up among college kids, but it's not resulting in many hospitalizations, because the young aren't effected much by SARS-COV-2. I suspect that a study would show that we're better off sequestering the young in colleges where they're mostly out of contact with the at-large population of older folks. Some instructors are exposed, sure, but even they are mostly of the demographic that's less vulnerable. Any that are in a vulnerable group can be excused from classroom duty if they feel unsafe.
 
2020-09-25 2:43:58 PM  

Lafcadio: There's all this talk about how terrible it was that Universities re-opened, but never do I hear what the alternative would have looked like.

If they had stayed home with their older and more at-risk parents, do you really believe they would not have gone out and partied locally? Would they not have been more distributed throughout communities?  Isn't it maybe (I'm not saying definitely) better to at least have them all in one big bubble?


I think in-person college makes scenarios like this one more likely.

College students test positive for virus and party
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2020-09-25 2:56:33 PM  

jjorsett: Infections may be up among college kids, but it's not resulting in many hospitalizations, because the young aren't effected much by SARS-COV-2. I suspect that a study would show that we're better off sequestering the young in colleges where they're mostly out of contact with the at-large population of older folks. Some instructors are exposed, sure, but even they are mostly of the demographic that's less vulnerable. Any that are in a vulnerable group can be excused from classroom duty if they feel unsafe.


Agreed. I teach (in person and online) at Tennessee and so far there have been zero cases of transmission in classrooms.
 
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