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(Daily Dot)   'Zoom Karen' goes blasto on granddaughter's virtual class to rant about the BLM movement, Obama and why the clouds are moving   (dailydot.com) divider line
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2020-09-25 8:34:43 AM  
Host:   right click.....mute

problem solved.
 
2020-09-25 8:51:58 AM  
"Goes Blasto" is now in my lexicon. Thanks, subby.
 
2020-09-25 9:17:13 AM  
This one is insulted by comparisons to "Karen".
 
2020-09-25 9:19:02 AM  
Still less annoying than that annoying harpie in the AIG commercial who says her mom is some kind of superhero.
 
2020-09-25 9:19:41 AM  
Christ, what an asshole.
 
2020-09-25 9:19:42 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: "Goes Blasto" is now in my lexicon. Thanks, subby.


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2020-09-25 9:22:00 AM  
what are those kids...12? 14?

"whats the most important historical event thats happened in your lifetime?"
"BLM"
props to whatever kid was socially aware enough to see that.  they're in the age range that its true.
 
2020-09-25 9:24:46 AM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: Tr0mBoNe: "Goes Blasto" is now in my lexicon. Thanks, subby.

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Don't skip leg day.
 
2020-09-25 9:24:56 AM  
When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?
 
2020-09-25 9:26:56 AM  

SpectroBoy: Host:   right click.....mute

problem solved.


Pretty sure you can kill the camera and/or boot them entirely.
 
2020-09-25 9:29:58 AM  

Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?


About three months ago. Gotta feel sorry for the chicks whose name actually is Karen. Well, depending on their hair cut.
 
2020-09-25 9:31:42 AM  
I don't have a facepalm big enough.
 
2020-09-25 9:32:08 AM  
Hey Kevin, did you catch the license plate of that bus that girl just threw you under?
 
2020-09-25 9:32:21 AM  
MythDragon:

Don't skip leg day.

Sage advice. I recommend 100 miles a week on the bicycle. Failing that, "death by lunges."

For me, legs are all about reps.
 
2020-09-25 9:34:11 AM  
Jesus, that dailydot.com article was unreadable-a sentence of text, then an enormous ad, another sentence or two of text, another enormous ad-who in the world would waste their time trying to read an article on such a site?
 
2020-09-25 9:34:51 AM  

Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?


Black Jeopardy with Chadwick Boseman - SNL
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2020-09-25 9:36:28 AM  
Shut Up NY Boomer
 
2020-09-25 9:37:57 AM  
They are SO DESPERATE TO BE OPPRESSED.
 
2020-09-25 9:38:37 AM  
I can't even imagine trying to be a teacher in 2020 when all the kids' parents can watch over your shoulder and just butt in any time they have a problem with your curriculum.
 
2020-09-25 9:38:48 AM  

Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?


Last year, maybe the year before.  I'm not sure of the origin of the term, but that asymmetrical, sharp-winged pseudo-bob hairstyle you see in a statistically-significant number of middle-aged middle-class white women started being called The Karen (not sure why Karen, but the name probably was meant to reference the Rachel from the Friends era).  Someone noticed that this hairstyle turned up in many white women who are aggressively confrontational in retail ("I want to speak with your manager" at the drop of a hat to get deals or free shiat).  This could just be coincidence or selection bias, but the hairstyle and the attitude of self-entitled biatchiness became linked in the zeitgeist.  At that point, Karen moved from a hairstyle to a lifestyle choice, ie megacoont.  So, when you say "Karen" people know you mean some McMansion-owning, jumped-up white trash biatch went spare for absolutely no reason.  And then this year happened.  You know, the one when white people got generally mad that they aren't allowed to kill people to get their tips frosted and that Those People got uppity for just a little extrajudicial murdering.
 
d23 [OhFark]
2020-09-25 9:39:40 AM  

Subtonic: Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?

About three months ago. Gotta feel sorry for the chicks whose name actually is Karen. Well, depending on their hair cut.


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We can make exceptions for the good ones.
 
2020-09-25 9:39:59 AM  

hardinparamedic: They are SO DESPERATE TO BE OPPRESSED.


We have zoos having problems feeding the lions.  Indulge their love of the martyrs and chunk them in, citing respect for their religious beliefs if they complain.
 
2020-09-25 9:40:20 AM  
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2020-09-25 9:41:11 AM  

d23: Subtonic: Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?

About three months ago. Gotta feel sorry for the chicks whose name actually is Karen. Well, depending on their hair cut.

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We can make exceptions for the good ones.


If she got the haircut, I think it would completely fry the "I can't fap to this" circuits in retail workers' brains.
 
d23 [OhFark]
2020-09-25 9:41:13 AM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: I can't even imagine trying to be a teacher in 2020 when all the kids' parents can watch over your shoulder and just butt in any time they have a problem with your curriculum.


Yep.  Since they are expected to be psychologists, substitute parents, family therapists, and now epidemiologists and then are called greedy when they want to go home with more than 22k a year.
 
2020-09-25 9:41:19 AM  
The little kid in me says: People can't be this stupid, this has to be fake

The jaded adult in me: People are this stupid, I hope it's fake.
 
2020-09-25 9:45:36 AM  

Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?


That took place this year.  It might surprise you to learn this, but popular culture and slang is constantly evolving and changing.
 
2020-09-25 9:47:51 AM  

SpectroBoy: Host:   right click.....mute

problem solved.


My daughter is doing remote learning in 1st grade and I'm continually perplexed that the teachers keep asking the same kids to mute themselves all day long instead of just putting them on mute and leaving it that way.  I know that they know how, because my wife is a teacher in the school and has shown them.

I also feel terrible for that lady's granddaughter.  All of those kids were immediately a target of her anger and no longer felt safe talking about BLM: her granddaughter disavows ever mentioning it, the other kid that she pointed at wanted nothing to do with it because of the stupid / crazy that was happening.  Fark that lady and everyone like her.
 
2020-09-25 9:48:25 AM  

Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?


Quit Karening up the comments!
 
2020-09-25 9:50:30 AM  
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2020-09-25 9:51:21 AM  

Random Anonymous Blackmail: The little kid in me says: People can't be this stupid, this has to be fake

The jaded adult in me: People are this stupid, I hope it's fake.


The alcoholic in me says, I wish I could get that drunk -- Karen drunk.
 
2020-09-25 9:56:16 AM  

Off2403: My daughter is doing remote learning in 1st grade and I'm continually perplexed that the teachers keep asking the same kids to mute themselves all day long instead of just putting them on mute and leaving it that way.  I know that they know how, because my wife is a teacher in the school and has shown them.



A certain percentage of teachers got into it so they can boss kids around, rather than to teach
 
2020-09-25 10:00:26 AM  
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2020-09-25 10:02:10 AM  
I think it should be legal to throw a paper sack full of cold diarrhea in her face.
 
2020-09-25 10:02:33 AM  

BitwiseShift: Random Anonymous Blackmail: The little kid in me says: People can't be this stupid, this has to be fake

The jaded adult in me: People are this stupid, I hope it's fake.

The alcoholic in me says, I wish I could get that drunk -- Karen drunk.


What are you waiting for, early bird never gets the buzz.
 
2020-09-25 10:03:09 AM  
You know what that website needs?

More ads. It's like reading the Daily Fail without the pictures. One sentence, ad. One more sentence. Another ad. Using Brave so I don't see the ads, but I still see the giant empty spaces where they'd be. And these assholes wonder why we use ad blockers...
 
2020-09-25 10:07:39 AM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: I can't even imagine trying to be a teacher in 2020 when all the kids' parents can watch over your shoulder and just butt in any time they have a problem with your curriculum.


So... take that fact as an opportunity to get the parents involved, and educated themselves. Hearkens back to the classical Greek ideal (beloved by Robert Heinlein, if I am not mistaken) when teaching was a presumably wiser older person, and a younger person, sitting together on a log and learning together, from each other.

Seriously, just for a moment, imagine a forum where multiple teachers, parents, and children are all participating together. Chaos? Maybe. Or maybe not. Why does organized behavior always have to be a top-down pyramid? Because people are idiots who have to be herded to accomplish anything?

Just perhaps, if that is what you expect, then that is what you get.
 
2020-09-25 10:11:58 AM  

oopsboom: what are those kids...12? 14?

"whats the most important historical event thats happened in your lifetime?"
"BLM"
props to whatever kid was socially aware enough to see that.  they're in the age range that its true.


What is more important, the Southern Strategy conspired by Nixon and his helpers, leading to Dolt 45 being the Grand Finale? Or BLM as a whole?

It is a tier list, or catagorical?

Because one highlights that stupidity is rampant and in control of everything that makes this country a shothole, and the other is shining light on the idiots in charge of everyday life of minorities subjugated by racist morons.

I can't say one leads to the other, since the 1960s was when MLK and the Southern strategy were in conflict. I am seeing a pattern, as I type this.
 
2020-09-25 10:13:14 AM  

phalamir: Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?

Last year, maybe the year before.  I'm not sure of the origin of the term, but that asymmetrical, sharp-winged pseudo-bob hairstyle you see in a statistically-significant number of middle-aged middle-class white women started being called The Karen (not sure why Karen, but the name probably was meant to reference the Rachel from the Friends era).  Someone noticed that this hairstyle turned up in many white women who are aggressively confrontational in retail ("I want to speak with your manager" at the drop of a hat to get deals or free shiat).  This could just be coincidence or selection bias, but the hairstyle and the attitude of self-entitled biatchiness became linked in the zeitgeist.  At that point, Karen moved from a hairstyle to a lifestyle choice, ie megacoont.  So, when you say "Karen" people know you mean some McMansion-owning, jumped-up white trash biatch went spare for absolutely no reason.  And then this year happened.  You know, the one when white people got generally mad that they aren't allowed to kill people to get their tips frosted and that Those People got uppity for just a little extrajudicial murdering.


"Went spare"? Not familiar with that (but I sorta like it). What does it mean?

Is it a bowling reference? As in "freakout when one pin wobbles but is left standing"?
 
2020-09-25 10:19:37 AM  

Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?


I now see it routinely used for "Woman who speaks up when I screw up her meal/coffee order."
 
2020-09-25 10:20:43 AM  

Harlee: phalamir: Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?

Last year, maybe the year before.  I'm not sure of the origin of the term, but that asymmetrical, sharp-winged pseudo-bob hairstyle you see in a statistically-significant number of middle-aged middle-class white women started being called The Karen (not sure why Karen, but the name probably was meant to reference the Rachel from the Friends era).  Someone noticed that this hairstyle turned up in many white women who are aggressively confrontational in retail ("I want to speak with your manager" at the drop of a hat to get deals or free shiat).  This could just be coincidence or selection bias, but the hairstyle and the attitude of self-entitled biatchiness became linked in the zeitgeist.  At that point, Karen moved from a hairstyle to a lifestyle choice, ie megacoont.  So, when you say "Karen" people know you mean some McMansion-owning, jumped-up white trash biatch went spare for absolutely no reason.  And then this year happened.  You know, the one when white people got generally mad that they aren't allowed to kill people to get their tips frosted and that Those People got uppity for just a little extrajudicial murdering.

"Went spare"? Not familiar with that (but I sorta like it). What does it mean?

Is it a bowling reference? As in "freakout when one pin wobbles but is left standing"?


It is a Britishism meaning "got angry", often with implications of irrational or over the top.  It comes from the Depression Era for being unemployed - you were made into a spare, like a tire.  Considering the unemployment and general malaise of the time, the anger connotation is easy to see.
 
2020-09-25 10:21:24 AM  
Meanwhile, the granddaughter is quietly planning her revenge. You just don't embarrass a 12 yr old girl in front of her entire class without suffering serious consequences.
 
2020-09-25 10:22:47 AM  

Tyrosine: [Fark user image 324x523]


Ahh..., remember the 80s when Bill Murray brought 300 ccs of Thorazine on a date with Sigourney Weaver and literally NOBODY batted an eye!
 
2020-09-25 10:24:55 AM  

fiddlehead: Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?

I now see it routinely used for "Woman who speaks up when I screw up her meal/coffee order."


It's the new "millennials spending money on avocado toast," but more misogynist.

Now we have the "Karen's" and the "angry black women."

Don't say anything ladies, the internet will get you.
 
2020-09-25 10:28:14 AM  

oopsboom: what are those kids...12? 14?

"whats the most important historical event thats happened in your lifetime?"
"BLM"
props to whatever kid was socially aware enough to see that.  they're in the age range that its true.


My 16 year olds are in the same 'government/civics' class taught by someone i think has really no business teaching. Kids have an open discussion text forum they can type away and discuss while he's talking. BLM came up. One kid said 'all lives matter' another respond with 'you're white, aren't you'. Other kids gently started discussing why the BLM movement is happening. The teacher closed the chat to student input the rest if that class. My kids were not happy.
 
2020-09-25 10:29:37 AM  

TheYeti: fiddlehead: Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?

I now see it routinely used for "Woman who speaks up when I screw up her meal/coffee order."

It's the new "millennials spending money on avocado toast," but more misogynist.

Now we have the "Karen's" and the "angry black women."

Don't say anything ladies, the internet will get you.


The only people I've seen trying to claim that "karen" is a derrogatory term for anyone other than racist white women are white supremacists and white radfems.
 
2020-09-25 10:31:26 AM  

TastyEloi: Jesus, that dailydot.com article was unreadable-a sentence of text, then an enormous ad, another sentence or two of text, another enormous ad-who in the world would waste their time trying to read an article on such a site?


/hangs head in shame
 
2020-09-25 10:32:07 AM  
Back in the pre-internet days, my young child brought home some overly political homework, that very much only addressed one side of an issue, that had perhaps a dozen sides.  It involved the environment, indigenous people, self determination, corporate greed, lack of opportunity, ownership of resources, and the hypocrisy of small white children writing "stop being bad guys" in crayon, while living in and benefiting from a consumer culture.

Rather than go in and interrupt a class in progress, I simply made an appointment with the teacher, and the two of us discussed how informed activism is good, but blind activism isn't overly helpful to anyone.  I learned something about being a teacher, she learned something about to be a better activist, and not inflicting her uninformed activism on school children.

It took all of ten minutes, and no children were traumatized.  Don't compound one error, by committing another.
 
2020-09-25 10:34:42 AM  

AppleOptionEsc: oopsboom: what are those kids...12? 14?

"whats the most important historical event thats happened in your lifetime?"
"BLM"
props to whatever kid was socially aware enough to see that.  they're in the age range that its true.

What is more important, the Southern Strategy conspired by Nixon and his helpers, leading to Dolt 45 being the Grand Finale? Or BLM as a whole?

It is a tier list, or catagorical?

Because one highlights that stupidity is rampant and in control of everything that makes this country a shothole, and the other is shining light on the idiots in charge of everyday life of minorities subjugated by racist morons.

I can't say one leads to the other, since the 1960s was when MLK and the Southern strategy were in conflict. I am seeing a pattern, as I type this.


W was elected president 20 years ago, took office 19 years ago and left office 11 years ago.  his presidency much less strategies and conspiracies leading up to it are outside the lifetimes of those kids.
 
2020-09-25 10:35:28 AM  

AppleOptionEsc: oopsboom: what are those kids...12? 14?

"whats the most important historical event thats happened in your lifetime?"
"BLM"
props to whatever kid was socially aware enough to see that.  they're in the age range that its true.

What is more important, the Southern Strategy conspired by Nixon and his helpers, leading to Dolt 45 being the Grand Finale? Or BLM as a whole?

It is a tier list, or catagorical?

Because one highlights that stupidity is rampant and in control of everything that makes this country a shothole, and the other is shining light on the idiots in charge of everyday life of minorities subjugated by racist morons.

I can't say one leads to the other, since the 1960s was when MLK and the Southern strategy were in conflict. I am seeing a pattern, as I type this.


Do you understand that for a child born in 2008, watergate is half a century ago?   I was grade school age in the 80s and I assure you that the great depression did not seem relevant to current events for me.  It was trivia.
 
2020-09-25 10:39:48 AM  

phalamir: Harlee: phalamir: Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?

Last year, maybe the year before.  I'm not sure of the origin of the term, but that asymmetrical, sharp-winged pseudo-bob hairstyle you see in a statistically-significant number of middle-aged middle-class white women started being called The Karen (not sure why Karen, but the name probably was meant to reference the Rachel from the Friends era).  Someone noticed that this hairstyle turned up in many white women who are aggressively confrontational in retail ("I want to speak with your manager" at the drop of a hat to get deals or free shiat).  This could just be coincidence or selection bias, but the hairstyle and the attitude of self-entitled biatchiness became linked in the zeitgeist.  At that point, Karen moved from a hairstyle to a lifestyle choice, ie megacoont.  So, when you say "Karen" people know you mean some McMansion-owning, jumped-up white trash biatch went spare for absolutely no reason.  And then this year happened.  You know, the one when white people got generally mad that they aren't allowed to kill people to get their tips frosted and that Those People got uppity for just a little extrajudicial murdering.

"Went spare"? Not familiar with that (but I sorta like it). What does it mean?

Is it a bowling reference? As in "freakout when one pin wobbles but is left standing"?

It is a Britishism meaning "got angry", often with implications of irrational or over the top.  It comes from the Depression Era for being unemployed - you were made into a spare, like a tire.  Considering the unemployment and general malaise of the time, the anger connotation is easy to see.


So like our "went postal?"
 
2020-09-25 10:40:22 AM  

HotLonelyTeenageGirl: Do you understand that for a child born in 2008, watergate is half a century ago?


well, technically, it was half a century ago for everyone :)
 
2020-09-25 10:40:27 AM  

Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?


It goes long back. Sure, it was Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, but it was Karen who didn't like the fruit of the tree of knowledge and asked to speak to the produce manager. That's the real reason they got kicked out.

/Karen reappears as the woman Cain married. Total punishment for that dude.
 
2020-09-25 10:54:24 AM  

hardinparamedic: TheYeti: fiddlehead: Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?

I now see it routinely used for "Woman who speaks up when I screw up her meal/coffee order."

It's the new "millennials spending money on avocado toast," but more misogynist.

Now we have the "Karen's" and the "angry black women."

Don't say anything ladies, the internet will get you.

The only people I've seen trying to claim that "karen" is a derrogatory term for anyone other than racist white women are white supremacists and white radfems.


Well I don't fit either of those categories, but I have absolutely seen "Karen" used on Fark for women who tell other people in stores to put on a damn mask.
 
2020-09-25 10:57:48 AM  
So at some point I guess we can't learn about or discuss history at all because it makes white Americans look bad?
 
2020-09-25 10:58:05 AM  

fiddlehead: hardinparamedic: TheYeti: fiddlehead: Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?

I now see it routinely used for "Woman who speaks up when I screw up her meal/coffee order."

It's the new "millennials spending money on avocado toast," but more misogynist.

Now we have the "Karen's" and the "angry black women."

Don't say anything ladies, the internet will get you.

The only people I've seen trying to claim that "karen" is a derrogatory term for anyone other than racist white women are white supremacists and white radfems.

Well I don't fit either of those categories, but I have absolutely seen "Karen" used on Fark for women who tell other people in stores to put on a damn mask.


The karen is coming from inside the karen!
 
2020-09-25 11:00:42 AM  

fiddlehead: hardinparamedic: TheYeti: fiddlehead: Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?

I now see it routinely used for "Woman who speaks up when I screw up her meal/coffee order."

It's the new "millennials spending money on avocado toast," but more misogynist.

Now we have the "Karen's" and the "angry black women."

Don't say anything ladies, the internet will get you.

The only people I've seen trying to claim that "karen" is a derrogatory term for anyone other than racist white women are white supremacists and white radfems.

Well I don't fit either of those categories, but I have absolutely seen "Karen" used on Fark for women who tell other people in stores to put on a damn mask.


You're confusing them for anti-masker women who either refused to wear a mask, or yell at other people for wearing masks. The Venn diagram for anti-maskers and racist nutjobs is almost a circle.
 
2020-09-25 11:04:16 AM  

rideaurocks: Off2403: My daughter is doing remote learning in 1st grade and I'm continually perplexed that the teachers keep asking the same kids to mute themselves all day long instead of just putting them on mute and leaving it that way.  I know that they know how, because my wife is a teacher in the school and has shown them.


A certain percentage of teachers got into it so they can boss kids around, rather than to teach


Oh absolutely.  I'm all for giving kids chances to do what they're supposed to do, but when the same kid has unmuted themselves 7 times in one morning so they can sing in chat, ask if school is over yet, or share something about their favorite video game, just take away the ability to unmute.  When they need to give input, give it back.
 
2020-09-25 11:05:53 AM  
I think 'Karen' has come to mean 'opinionated busy-body'
 
2020-09-25 11:07:22 AM  

Begoggle: fiddlehead: hardinparamedic: TheYeti: fiddlehead: Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?

I now see it routinely used for "Woman who speaks up when I screw up her meal/coffee order."

It's the new "millennials spending money on avocado toast," but more misogynist.

Now we have the "Karen's" and the "angry black women."

Don't say anything ladies, the internet will get you.

The only people I've seen trying to claim that "karen" is a derrogatory term for anyone other than racist white women are white supremacists and white radfems.

Well I don't fit either of those categories, but I have absolutely seen "Karen" used on Fark for women who tell other people in stores to put on a damn mask.

You're confusing them for anti-masker women who either refused to wear a mask, or yell at other people for wearing masks. The Venn diagram for anti-maskers and racist nutjobs is almost a circle.


No, guys, it was specifically used for women calling out people for NOT wearing a mask. Anti-masker women and men can go fark themselves, obviously.
 
2020-09-25 11:19:45 AM  
Shut the fark up, asshole.

I just want stupid people to shut the fark up and be afraid to talk. Were they ever afraid to talk or have they always been the people most likely to open their gaping pieholes and let the stupid come out? I'm honestly not sure.

But I am sure I want them to shut the fark up.
 
2020-09-25 11:24:06 AM  
The chain of questioning is interesting from the teacher as it all leads back to her bringing up BLM as she tries to explain that everyone else brought it up, but in the end it was her.
 
2020-09-25 11:24:27 AM  
' we're not going to talk about it unless you listen to me'. The grandmother wasn't even the subject or intended recipient of the conversation. Sometimes I do have to bite my tongue because I sit in a room adjacent to my daughter during her classes and I listen to what the teacher says via Zoom. Sometimes it's actually stupid.  It's not my place to get involved during class. I have sent her an email privately which is what this twat should have done.
 
2020-09-25 11:33:47 AM  

HotLonelyTeenageGirl: Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?

That took place this year.  It might surprise you to learn this, but popular culture and slang is constantly evolving and changing.


we already had words for unpleasant people.  "Karen" was supposed to be the lady that called the police on black people for having a BBQ, or other such things.  My teen tried to tell me that if I complained about not getting some food I ordered I was a "Karen" for doing it so it's not even just women - it's any adult that does anything at all.

It could be that 2020 is just chaos and none of us know what anything means anymore.
 
2020-09-25 11:35:26 AM  

fiddlehead: hardinparamedic: TheYeti: fiddlehead: Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?

I now see it routinely used for "Woman who speaks up when I screw up her meal/coffee order."

It's the new "millennials spending money on avocado toast," but more misogynist.

Now we have the "Karen's" and the "angry black women."

Don't say anything ladies, the internet will get you.

The only people I've seen trying to claim that "karen" is a derrogatory term for anyone other than racist white women are white supremacists and white radfems.

Well I don't fit either of those categories, but I have absolutely seen "Karen" used on Fark for women who tell other people in stores to put on a damn mask.


my daughter is neither a woman nor completely white, so I concur.
 
2020-09-25 11:43:28 AM  

hardinparamedic: fiddlehead: hardinparamedic: TheYeti: fiddlehead: Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?

I now see it routinely used for "Woman who speaks up when I screw up her meal/coffee order."

It's the new "millennials spending money on avocado toast," but more misogynist.

Now we have the "Karen's" and the "angry black women."

Don't say anything ladies, the internet will get you.

The only people I've seen trying to claim that "karen" is a derrogatory term for anyone other than racist white women are white supremacists and white radfems.

Well I don't fit either of those categories, but I have absolutely seen "Karen" used on Fark for women who tell other people in stores to put on a damn mask.

The karen is coming from inside the karen!


Karenception!
 
2020-09-25 11:49:02 AM  

phalamir: Harlee: phalamir: Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?

Last year, maybe the year before.  I'm not sure of the origin of the term, but that asymmetrical, sharp-winged pseudo-bob hairstyle you see in a statistically-significant number of middle-aged middle-class white women started being called The Karen (not sure why Karen, but the name probably was meant to reference the Rachel from the Friends era).  Someone noticed that this hairstyle turned up in many white women who are aggressively confrontational in retail ("I want to speak with your manager" at the drop of a hat to get deals or free shiat).  This could just be coincidence or selection bias, but the hairstyle and the attitude of self-entitled biatchiness became linked in the zeitgeist.  At that point, Karen moved from a hairstyle to a lifestyle choice, ie megacoont.  So, when you say "Karen" people know you mean some McMansion-owning, jumped-up white trash biatch went spare for absolutely no reason.  And then this year happened.  You know, the one when white people got generally mad that they aren't allowed to kill people to get their tips frosted and that Those People got uppity for just a little extrajudicial murdering.

"Went spare"? Not familiar with that (but I sorta like it). What does it mean?

Is it a bowling reference? As in "freakout when one pin wobbles but is left standing"?

It is a Britishism meaning "got angry", often with implications of irrational or over the top.  It comes from the Depression Era for being unemployed - you were made into a spare, like a tire.  Considering the unemployment and general malaise of the time, the anger connotation is easy to see.


Nice. One to remember. Thanks.
 
2020-09-25 12:01:53 PM  
I hate that nobody wants to listen to anyone else anymore. Just sit back and listen. Really listening and not just sitting there waiting for your turn to speak. It seems to be a lost art.
 
2020-09-25 12:21:19 PM  
I had to look at the names of the kids in this video... I thought it may have been my daughter's class as we had a similar problem this past week.

Not my kid's class... but damn.  What is with Karens jumping into classrooms being super racist?
 
2020-09-25 12:32:39 PM  

HotLonelyTeenageGirl: AppleOptionEsc: oopsboom: what are those kids...12? 14?

"whats the most important historical event thats happened in your lifetime?"
"BLM"
props to whatever kid was socially aware enough to see that.  they're in the age range that its true.

What is more important, the Southern Strategy conspired by Nixon and his helpers, leading to Dolt 45 being the Grand Finale? Or BLM as a whole?

It is a tier list, or catagorical?

Because one highlights that stupidity is rampant and in control of everything that makes this country a shothole, and the other is shining light on the idiots in charge of everyday life of minorities subjugated by racist morons.

I can't say one leads to the other, since the 1960s was when MLK and the Southern strategy were in conflict. I am seeing a pattern, as I type this.

Do you understand that for a child born in 2008, watergate is half a century ago?   I was grade school age in the 80s and I assure you that the great depression did not seem relevant to current events for me.  It was trivia.


My point was more the fact that history continues on. BLM is an after effect of Ferguson. Just like Dolt is a chaos goblin of the entirety of GOP history.

BLM is just as historic as the 2016 election.  My question was a more thought experiment. Similar to which was more historic, the 2000 election or 9/11? Both happened almost at the same time (in the grand scheme of things) and one happened (the fallout at least) because of the other.
 
2020-09-25 12:33:37 PM  
Those kids are 10? 12? Their memories only go back to maybe kindergarten at best. Their sharpest / clearest memories will only be the past year or two. The only thing they know historically is going to be the virus and the protests for BLM, for them nothing else has happened in their memories.
 
2020-09-25 12:38:09 PM  
fiddlehead:
No, guys, it was specifically used for women calling out people for NOT wearing a mask. Anti-masker women and men can go fark themselves, obviously.

No it wasn't.
 
2020-09-25 12:43:08 PM  
FTFA:"You're talking about BLM and all that stuff," the woman says. "And we're not going to talk about it unless you want to hear what I have to say."

Do parents/grandparents regularly chime in their crazy bullshiat on their kids' Zoom classes? Is this a thing? Would this woman have kicked down the door of a physical class to insert her two cents? Do she grab phones out of the hands of people when they mention things she has opinions on so she can shout at the other person on the line?
 
2020-09-25 12:44:44 PM  

IamAwake: HotLonelyTeenageGirl: Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?

That took place this year.  It might surprise you to learn this, but popular culture and slang is constantly evolving and changing.

we already had words for unpleasant people.  "Karen" was supposed to be the lady that called the police on black people for having a BBQ, or other such things.  My teen tried to tell me that if I complained about not getting some food I ordered I was a "Karen" for doing it so it's not even just women - it's any adult that does anything at all.

It could be that 2020 is just chaos and none of us know what anything means anymore.


No.
It was used for a "demand to speak to your manager" type of woman with a certain haircut. The racial element is all part of the same thing.
It's slang, not a literal scientific definition. If that upsets you, don't use the term. Don't use the term "cool" either, because it's equally ambiguous. Or maybe you can carry around an Oxford dictionary and argue with people over semantics. That's what a Karen would do.
 
2020-09-25 12:46:29 PM  

Alwysadydrmr: phalamir: Harlee: phalamir: Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?

Last year, maybe the year before.  I'm not sure of the origin of the term, but that asymmetrical, sharp-winged pseudo-bob hairstyle you see in a statistically-significant number of middle-aged middle-class white women started being called The Karen (not sure why Karen, but the name probably was meant to reference the Rachel from the Friends era).  Someone noticed that this hairstyle turned up in many white women who are aggressively confrontational in retail ("I want to speak with your manager" at the drop of a hat to get deals or free shiat).  This could just be coincidence or selection bias, but the hairstyle and the attitude of self-entitled biatchiness became linked in the zeitgeist.  At that point, Karen moved from a hairstyle to a lifestyle choice, ie megacoont.  So, when you say "Karen" people know you mean some McMansion-owning, jumped-up white trash biatch went spare for absolutely no reason.  And then this year happened.  You know, the one when white people got generally mad that they aren't allowed to kill people to get their tips frosted and that Those People got uppity for just a little extrajudicial murdering.

"Went spare"? Not familiar with that (but I sorta like it). What does it mean?

Is it a bowling reference? As in "freakout when one pin wobbles but is left standing"?

It is a Britishism meaning "got angry", often with implications of irrational or over the top.  It comes from the Depression Era for being unemployed - you were made into a spare, like a tire.  Considering the unemployment and general malaise of the time, the anger connotation is easy to see.

So like our "went postal?"


Doesn't have the same automatic implication of murder, though.  Remember that the incidents that spawned "going postal" were all about postal workers opening up with guns on their own coworkers - instead, of you know, the managers and administrators who made the policies.  Going spare is more generalized anger.
 
2020-09-25 12:47:51 PM  

The Irrelevant Gamer: FTFA:"You're talking about BLM and all that stuff," the woman says. "And we're not going to talk about it unless you want to hear what I have to say."

Do parents/grandparents regularly chime in their crazy bullshiat on their kids' Zoom classes? Is this a thing? Would this woman have kicked down the door of a physical class to insert her two cents? Do she grab phones out of the hands of people when they mention things she has opinions on so she can shout at the other person on the line?


I'm sure every single teacher who has been teaching for just a few years can tell you about some parent. Right-wingers want to pretend it's a new thing (as an excuse to eliminate public education) but teachers had to deal with angry parents protecting their sensitive snowflakes, 70 years ago too.
 
2020-09-25 12:48:51 PM  

phalamir: hardinparamedic: They are SO DESPERATE TO BE OPPRESSED.

We have zoos having problems feeding the lions.  Indulge their love of the martyrs and chunk them in, citing respect for their religious beliefs if they complain.


A Christian is sentenced to death in the Colosseum. He's thrown into the ring, and slowly a gate opens, revealing a ravenous lion. The Christian sinks to his knees with eyes closed and prays for salvation. A few moments later, when he realizes he's not being devoured he peeks out and sees the lion across from him, also praying.

"Halleluiah!" he shouts "God has saved me by turning this lion into a Christian!"

The lion says "Sure, I'm Christian... but I am just saying my prayer before dinner."
 
2020-09-25 12:51:30 PM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: I can't even imagine trying to be a teacher in 2020 when all the kids' parents can watch over your shoulder and just butt in any time they have a problem with your curriculum.


If I were the teacher, I wouldn't have even bothered trying to be rational and discuss the matter with her. I would have just said, "you are not a part of this class. I don't care what you have to say", and if the Karen refused to shut her pie-hole, I would have muted that feed from the Zoom chat. Sorry, little girl. But your Nana is being an asshole and disrupting the class.
 
2020-09-25 1:04:09 PM  

HailRobonia: phalamir: hardinparamedic: They are SO DESPERATE TO BE OPPRESSED.

We have zoos having problems feeding the lions.  Indulge their love of the martyrs and chunk them in, citing respect for their religious beliefs if they complain.

A Christian is sentenced to death in the Colosseum. He's thrown into the ring, and slowly a gate opens, revealing a ravenous lion. The Christian sinks to his knees with eyes closed and prays for salvation. A few moments later, when he realizes he's not being devoured he peeks out and sees the lion across from him, also praying.

"Halleluiah!" he shouts "God has saved me by turning this lion into a Christian!"

The lion says "Sure, I'm Christian... but I am just saying my prayer before dinner."


Don't ever post a 'joke' again.
 
2020-09-25 1:06:46 PM  

Subtonic: Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?

About three months ago. Gotta feel sorry for the chicks whose name actually is Karen. Well, depending on their hair cut.


My therapist is a Karen and is the total opposite of a Karen. I feel sorry for Karen. Karen.
 
2020-09-25 1:15:09 PM  

RepoManTSM: Subtonic: Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?

About three months ago. Gotta feel sorry for the chicks whose name actually is Karen. Well, depending on their hair cut.

My therapist is a Karen and is the total opposite of a Karen. I feel sorry for Karen. Karen.


My friend is named Karen.  She proposes replacing the "Karen" name Ivanka
 
2020-09-25 1:30:14 PM  

TheYeti: It's the new "millennials spending money on avocado toast," but more misogynist.


I don't think you're quite "there" yet. Think it over a bit more.
 
2020-09-25 1:53:53 PM  

DaShredda: HailRobonia: phalamir: hardinparamedic: They are SO DESPERATE TO BE OPPRESSED.

We have zoos having problems feeding the lions.  Indulge their love of the martyrs and chunk them in, citing respect for their religious beliefs if they complain.

A Christian is sentenced to death in the Colosseum. He's thrown into the ring, and slowly a gate opens, revealing a ravenous lion. The Christian sinks to his knees with eyes closed and prays for salvation. A few moments later, when he realizes he's not being devoured he peeks out and sees the lion across from him, also praying.

"Halleluiah!" he shouts "God has saved me by turning this lion into a Christian!"

The lion says "Sure, I'm Christian... but I am just saying my prayer before dinner."

Don't ever post a 'joke' again.


Are you saying the animal was lion about his religion?
 
2020-09-25 2:05:51 PM  
Sadly some teachers are not tech proficient no matter how many times you show them how to mute someone on zoom. Or play a dvd of Hamlet. I sometimes have to hit my head against the wall and weep at what the world is coming to.
 
2020-09-25 2:13:22 PM  

phalamir: Harlee: phalamir: Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?

Last year, maybe the year before.  I'm not sure of the origin of the term, but that asymmetrical, sharp-winged pseudo-bob hairstyle you see in a statistically-significant number of middle-aged middle-class white women started being called The Karen (not sure why Karen, but the name probably was meant to reference the Rachel from the Friends era).  Someone noticed that this hairstyle turned up in many white women who are aggressively confrontational in retail ("I want to speak with your manager" at the drop of a hat to get deals or free shiat).  This could just be coincidence or selection bias, but the hairstyle and the attitude of self-entitled biatchiness became linked in the zeitgeist.  At that point, Karen moved from a hairstyle to a lifestyle choice, ie megacoont.  So, when you say "Karen" people know you mean some McMansion-owning, jumped-up white trash biatch went spare for absolutely no reason.  And then this year happened.  You know, the one when white people got generally mad that they aren't allowed to kill people to get their tips frosted and that Those People got uppity for just a little extrajudicial murdering.

"Went spare"? Not familiar with that (but I sorta like it). What does it mean?

Is it a bowling reference? As in "freakout when one pin wobbles but is left standing"?

It is a Britishism meaning "got angry", often with implications of irrational or over the top.  It comes from the Depression Era for being unemployed - you were made into a spare, like a tire.  Considering the unemployment and general malaise of the time, the anger connotation is easy to see.


I don't think it has connotations of irrational. To me, prevailing sentiment of 'went spare' is that you properly lost it. Like defcon 5.
 
2020-09-25 2:42:31 PM  

hardinparamedic: TheYeti: fiddlehead: Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?

I now see it routinely used for "Woman who speaks up when I screw up her meal/coffee order."

It's the new "millennials spending money on avocado toast," but more misogynist.

Now we have the "Karen's" and the "angry black women."

Don't say anything ladies, the internet will get you.

The only people I've seen trying to claim that "karen" is a derrogatory term for anyone other than racist white women are white supremacists and white radfems.


You should get out more.
 
2020-09-25 2:44:34 PM  

Kittypie070: TheYeti: It's the new "millennials spending money on avocado toast," but more misogynist.

I don't think you're quite "there" yet. Think it over a bit more.


Ok, well I don't think that you are "very smart" or have any kind of "salient point."
 
2020-09-25 3:53:46 PM  

TheYeti: fiddlehead: Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?

I now see it routinely used for "Woman who speaks up when I screw up her meal/coffee order."

It's the new "millennials spending money on avocado toast," but more misogynist.

Now we have the "Karen's" and the "angry black women."

Don't say anything ladies, the internet will get you.


OK boomer.
 
2020-09-25 4:16:12 PM  

TheYeti: Ok, well I don't think that you are "very smart" or have any kind of "salient point."


dude wtf was YOURS??

PS I don't give a ratbutt what you think of me.
 
2020-09-25 5:50:26 PM  
"Barack Obama was biracial," she says. "He wasn't just Black. He should have owned both sides of his family."

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2020-09-25 6:16:49 PM  
Disorderly conduct is against the law.
 
2020-09-25 6:47:41 PM  

Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?


Yeah, I thought it was just perfectionist white moms who complain to the manager.
Then I jokingly called my 78 yr old mom (who is all of the above) Karen, and she lost her shiat. I hadn't known the cultural definition had changed.

/She thought I was calling her the equivalent of Eva Braun
//Didn't talk to me for days
///My mom's name is Becky (seriously:)
 
2020-09-25 10:52:21 PM  

AndTheyAllLived: Super Chronic: When did "Karen" cease to have a specific meaning and become a catch-all for "woman who does bad things"?

Yeah, I thought it was just perfectionist white moms who complain to the manager.
Then I jokingly called my 78 yr old mom (who is all of the above) Karen, and she lost her shiat. I hadn't known the cultural definition had changed.

/She thought I was calling her the equivalent of Eva Braun
//Didn't talk to me for days
///My mom's name is Becky (seriously:)


Pretty sure your mom's name is Taylor Swift.
 
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