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2020-09-25 11:55:16 AM  
I might be wrong, but my understanding of traditional school is to expose pupils to a broad understanding and the basics at lower levels and start focusing on careers paths later on. So these unschooled kids might just learn what's fun, not necessarily the right knowledge to live independently in the world.
 
2020-09-25 2:02:29 PM  
I watched Class Dismissed: A Film About Learning Outside of the Classroom when we were deciding our options for the kids this year.  It was not what I expected, though it made some good points with problems in the current school system.

What bothered me most about the unschooling concept, as Meritech mentions, was the lack of examples of "unschoolers" that ended up having established careers.  The most successful example of an unschooler in the documentary, Dale J. Stephens, now works as an Executive Coach, according to LinkedIn and he wrote a book about unschooling.
 
2020-09-25 4:14:41 PM  

Merltech: I might be wrong, but my understanding of traditional school is to expose pupils to a broad understanding and the basics at lower levels and start focusing on careers paths later on. So these unschooled kids might just learn what's fun, not necessarily the right knowledge to live independently in the world.


Most "traditional" schools are teaching to the test vs focusing on career paths and 'how to adult'.

My nephew years ago did remote learning during the latter part of high school due to anxiety and other issues.  He seems to have done OK and has a nice career in the trades.

The problem are the home schooling programs that are just there to insulate the kids from the 'sinners'.
 
2020-09-25 4:17:19 PM  
I think school only really teaches how to be a teacher.

I wish schools were more like technical homes. You'd go learn what you want to learn. Want to be a plumber? Learn by DOING. Want to be a lawyer....go hang out in a courthouse.

Want to be a homemaker....stay home with a homemaker.
 
2020-09-25 4:25:55 PM  
There's zero chance the kid next door would do anything other than play Fortnite 24-farking-7.
 
2020-09-25 4:37:03 PM  
I do not have enough face for all the palm this deserves...

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This is the ultimate endgoal of 50 years of conservative defunding of education.

And how you get shiat like Anti-vaxxers and QAnon.

Congratulations, America.  You did it!
 
2020-09-25 4:42:22 PM  
The children - a 14-year-old, a 13-year-old and 9-year-old twins - learn at home, but with far more flexibility than traditional home-schooling families. Their parents spurn curriculums, textbooks, tests and grades. Instead they do their best to follow the children's natural curiosity, their impulse to drop what bores them and investigate whatever captivates them, engaging in "self-directed education" at their own pace.

Considering where most 13 and 14-year-olds' curiosity leads, I hope your computers have good antivirus.
 
2020-09-25 5:56:11 PM  
GoldSpider: Considering where most 13 and 14-year-olds' curiosity leads, I hope your computers have good antivirus.





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2020-09-26 4:24:17 AM  
Trump has forced normal logical people to have to homeschool and question vaccines.
 
2020-09-26 7:47:27 AM  

bughunter: I do not have enough face for all the palm this deserves...

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This is the ultimate endgoal of 50 years of conservative defunding of education.

And how you get shiat like Anti-vaxxers and QAnon.

Congratulations, America.  You did it!


Mmmm...
More like where the GOP went off the rails (Thanks, Gingrich).

(Pre-Gingrich, the mainstream GOP wanted the little monsters trained up enough to take useful jobs and be quietly desparate while making money for management.  Then the religious whack-a-doodles took over.)
 
2020-09-26 8:05:19 PM  

Merltech: I might be wrong, but my understanding of traditional school is to expose pupils to a broad understanding and the basics at lower levels and start focusing on careers paths later on. So these unschooled kids might just learn what's fun, not necessarily the right knowledge to live independently in the world.


Assuming every job worth doing isn't being done by a bot in 20 years time anyway.
 
2020-09-27 2:12:30 AM  
I was homeschooled through middle and high school, and my mom followed this "unschooling" philosophy. Honestly I mostly played video games all day. I went to college when I turned 18 and only had to take a few extra classes (in math). I got a degree in software engineering and have a job I enjoy and which pays well so... I guess all's well that ends well? I'm not sure I'd recommend it or even agree to it if I could do it over again, but I can't complain about the end result. I absolutely believe having a solid foundation from elementary school was critical in being able to succeed later in life though. Don't homeschool your kids their whole lives unless you can teach those fundamentals effectively.

And no, my mom isn't conservative or religious. The schools near us just had a bad reputation and she was afraid I'd end up on drugs or murdered or something.  For all I know, she did manage to avert a major disaster. Probably not... But it's possible.
 
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