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(Vice)   The new trump ad touting the "best economy" features a steel plant that laid off hundreds of workers   (vice.com) divider line
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2020-09-24 2:35:58 PM  
Um, subby? Laying off hundreds of workers means that a company can afford to pay out more in executive bonuses and shareholder dividends. Who then spend or invest that extra money which means it re-enters the economy -- the so-called "trickle down" effect that ensures poor and middle class people always enjoy the benefits of wealth creation. Furthermore, because those same rich people are still taxed, their money also goes toward paying for the very benefits that support the people who were laid off from the plant in the first place -- food stamps, medicare, social security, unemployment, Obamaphones, etc. etc. The entire cycle is known in macro-economic circles as Hakuna Matata Economics, or HME, which is a tongue-in-cheek reference to everything flowing in a circular path. The circle of life, so to speak. I'd encourage you to educate yourself before your next attempt at snark.
 
2020-09-24 2:41:47 PM  
At least we didn't end up with this horror

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2020-09-24 2:42:41 PM  
They weren't laid off, they were pro-actively protected from Covid by being told to stay away from the plant at home.
 
2020-09-24 2:43:26 PM  
They couldn't find a Russian steel factory to use instead?
 
2020-09-24 2:59:41 PM  
That's just a shout-out to all those laid off workers who are still going to vote for Trump...

"Hey!  I used to work there!  Wooo Trump!!"
 
2020-09-24 3:11:03 PM  

Nadie_AZ: At least we didn't end up with this horror

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At least "under Socialism" those two guys could go to the doctor without bankrupting their family.
 
2020-09-24 3:11:09 PM  
Second only to the Great Depression. I guess this would be the Great Again Depression.

Thanks, assholes.
 
2020-09-24 3:11:45 PM  
Same as the Carrier plant with thousands of workers he kept from being shipped to Mexico?

Trump doesn't give a shiat, and neither does his base. They could have audio of him personally negotiating the laying off of thousands of workers and the cult would come up with a reason to excuse his two-faced behavior.
 
2020-09-24 3:12:22 PM  
But are the shareholders doing ok? The workers can suffer as long as the shareholders are ok.
 
2020-09-24 3:14:32 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: Nadie_AZ: At least we didn't end up with this horror

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At least "under Socialism" those two guys could go to the doctor without bankrupting their family.


You could easily change it to shutdown by management due to a union winning a vote. Call it, America under Crony Capitalism.
 
2020-09-24 3:14:57 PM  

UberDave: That's just a shout-out to all those laid off workers who are still going to vote for Trump...

"Hey!  I used to work there!  Wooo Trump!!"


It's Illinois, so hopefully VICE pointing this out can help turn Illinois blue!
Oh wait.
 
2020-09-24 3:15:04 PM  
Such a shame.  He's should've touted his success in getting Foxconn to relocate to Wisconsin in 2017.  Here's a photo from April 2020:

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2020-09-24 3:15:57 PM  
Trump's method is to just tell new lies. Every day. Lying is what he does.
 
2020-09-24 3:18:00 PM  
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2020-09-24 3:25:17 PM  
I heard the steel industry had to layoff workers because liberals were mean to them.
 
2020-09-24 3:26:27 PM  

emersonbiggins: Such a shame.  He's should've touted his success in getting Foxconn to relocate to Wisconsin in 2017.  Here's a photo from April 2020:

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FoxConned
 
2020-09-24 3:29:48 PM  
Thanks, Obama!
 
2020-09-24 3:32:33 PM  
As someone that lives not far from that plant...I can confirm that a lot of redneck morons
(And i mean MORONS too,willfully ignorant, and dense as the farking lead that circulates in their blood.)
Despite being in a major metro area, the culture in Granite City is like that of some
backwoods hollow in Kentucky..A very large chunk of the  people are; racist, xenophobic, willfully ignorant,
and proud of all of that...Granite City was a, "Sundown Town" even into the 60's...And people there
REALLY pine for that again..It's not uncommon for people there to still mention that, as an example of
their utopian fantasy..But it's also a bastion of Union power..There is no way that area would support
the magic orange manbaby..
 
2020-09-24 3:34:34 PM  
Can I ask a dumb question?

Why in the f*ck should we even WANT to manufacture steel here? If we're buying it from other countries that have cheaper labor and extraction prices... who do you know in your life that WANTS to work in a steel mill?

Let the other countries do it, cheaper. Educate your own populace above wanting to work in a coal fired smelter. Then import it far cheaper than you can make it. I know those hills aren't going to billy themselves, but maybe actually try to produce something useful and be paid a respectful wage.
 
2020-09-24 3:35:37 PM  
How does opposition advertising work?  I mean, is there anything anywhere saying that Democrats, or the Biden campaign, can't buy ad time and simply show an updated, "fact-checked" version of the Trump ad?  Could they re-play it, but just have fact-check bubbles pop up at all the bad parts?  Then just buy ad time in the same areas and run those suckers.  Basically they'd write themselves.
 
2020-09-24 3:45:38 PM  

DannyBrandt: Can I ask a dumb question?

Why in the f*ck should we even WANT to manufacture steel here? If we're buying it from other countries that have cheaper labor and extraction prices... who do you know in your life that WANTS to work in a steel mill?

Let the other countries do it, cheaper. Educate your own populace above wanting to work in a coal fired smelter. Then import it far cheaper than you can make it. I know those hills aren't going to billy themselves, but maybe actually try to produce something useful and be paid a respectful wage.


I know a guy that worked at a steel plant in South Carolina for like 5-6 years. It was non-union and basically aged him 20+years in that time. His body was broken down and they fired him because he wasn't being as productive as he was in the beginning.
 
2020-09-24 3:45:45 PM  

DannyBrandt: Can I ask a dumb question?

Why in the f*ck should we even WANT to manufacture steel here? If we're buying it from other countries that have cheaper labor and extraction prices... who do you know in your life that WANTS to work in a steel mill?

Let the other countries do it, cheaper. Educate your own populace above wanting to work in a coal fired smelter. Then import it far cheaper than you can make it. I know those hills aren't going to billy themselves, but maybe actually try to produce something useful and be paid a respectful wage.



Because where else are the braindead slobs going to work?  The other side of the curve on IQ has
to do something...The Steel Mill pays well, it's "manly" work, and it supports a lot of other, "manly" trades
like truck driving, and heavy equipment operators...
 
2020-09-24 3:53:50 PM  

Mr. Shabooboo: DannyBrandt: Can I ask a dumb question?

Why in the f*ck should we even WANT to manufacture steel here? If we're buying it from other countries that have cheaper labor and extraction prices... who do you know in your life that WANTS to work in a steel mill?

Let the other countries do it, cheaper. Educate your own populace above wanting to work in a coal fired smelter. Then import it far cheaper than you can make it. I know those hills aren't going to billy themselves, but maybe actually try to produce something useful and be paid a respectful wage.


Because where else are the braindead slobs going to work?  The other side of the curve on IQ has
to do something...The Steel Mill pays well, it's "manly" work, and it supports a lot of other, "manly" trades
like truck driving, and heavy equipment operators...


This... We need jobs for those people who tend to be not so bright... But who can, if paid a good wage, be contributing member of society... Think of what Ford and GM workers were making in the 70's and 80's... They were strongly middle class. 2 cars, maybe a boat, hunting cabin... enough money for the kids to go to college.

We've lost so many of those jobs the people are screaming for change or looking for someone to blame.

Hence the rise of Nationalism.

We've seen this story before. Middle class jobs that pay well are VITAL for out type of society.

Like, super, super important.
 
2020-09-24 3:54:34 PM  
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2020-09-24 3:57:58 PM  

Mr. Shabooboo: As someone that lives not far from that plant...I can confirm that a lot of redneck morons
(And i mean MORONS too,willfully ignorant, and dense as the farking lead that circulates in their blood.)
Despite being in a major metro area, the culture in Granite City is like that of some
backwoods hollow in Kentucky..A very large chunk of the  people are; racist, xenophobic, willfully ignorant,
and proud of all of that...Granite City was a, "Sundown Town" even into the 60's...And people there
REALLY pine for that again..It's not uncommon for people there to still mention that, as an example of
their utopian fantasy..But it's also a bastion of Union power..There is no way that area would support
the magic orange manbaby..


Sorry I don't buy it.  My hometown was a bastion of Union power as well.  So much so that the National Guard was called in because of a strike at a local plant in the 50's.  They started going Republican in the 80's and never looked back.  So now the plant in question is non-union and shipping stuff to the previous company that owned it.  Most of the jobs pay a little more than minimum wage to work in a living hell.  Guess who a large majority of those people are backing this time around?  Those are the people who put him in office 2016 and they are going to double down this time around.
 
2020-09-24 4:16:03 PM  

DannyBrandt: Let the other countries do it, cheaper. Educate your own populace above wanting to work in a coal fired smelter. Then import it far cheaper than you can make it. I know those hills aren't going to billy themselves, but maybe actually try to produce something useful and be paid a respectful wage.


But they will, if only we would MAGA hard enough!

/btw, great phrase FWIW
 
2020-09-24 4:32:01 PM  
Then biden just needs to run that ad, cut away and say 'stop.. this is X plant, and they laid off hundreds of workers because of Trump. He's treating you like you're stupid."
 
2020-09-24 5:56:37 PM  

DannyBrandt: Can I ask a dumb question?

Why in the f*ck should we even WANT to manufacture steel here? If we're buying it from other countries that have cheaper labor and extraction prices... who do you know in your life that WANTS to work in a steel mill?

Let the other countries do it, cheaper. Educate your own populace above wanting to work in a coal fired smelter. Then import it far cheaper than you can make it. I know those hills aren't going to billy themselves, but maybe actually try to produce something useful and be paid a respectful wage.


1. Defense industry. It's better to have it and not need it than to not have it when you need it.
2. I'd like to work in a steel mill*, I think it would be cool, just gotta learn how to program the machines that do most of the actual work.
3. Steel is very useful and plants that produce raw steel pay relatively well compared to service industry jobs that make up the bulk of non college educated work.

/* I'll probably end up working in a shipyard when I retire from what I do now, but it's a similar situation and industry.
 
2020-09-24 6:01:57 PM  

Gonzo317: Mr. Shabooboo: As someone that lives not far from that plant...I can confirm that a lot of redneck morons
(And i mean MORONS too,willfully ignorant, and dense as the farking lead that circulates in their blood.)
Despite being in a major metro area, the culture in Granite City is like that of some
backwoods hollow in Kentucky..A very large chunk of the  people are; racist, xenophobic, willfully ignorant,
and proud of all of that...Granite City was a, "Sundown Town" even into the 60's...And people there
REALLY pine for that again..It's not uncommon for people there to still mention that, as an example of
their utopian fantasy..But it's also a bastion of Union power..There is no way that area would support
the magic orange manbaby..

Sorry I don't buy it.My hometown was a bastion of Union power as well.  So much so that the National Guard was called in because of a strike at a local plant in the 50's.  They started going Republican in the 80's and never looked back.  So now the plant in question is non-union and shipping stuff to the previous company that owned it.  Most of the jobs pay a little more than minimum wage to work in a living hell.  Guess who a large majority of those people are backing this time around?  Those are the people who put him in office 2016 and they are going to double down this time around.


I'm giving you some basic first hand observations here...I live near this place..I travel through there from
time to time, I know people that live and have lived there..I'm not armchair quarterbacking.
 
2020-09-24 6:24:52 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Second only to the Great Depression. I guess this would be the Great Again Depression.

Thanks, assholes.


Oh, man, i like that.
 
2020-09-24 6:29:42 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Mr. Shabooboo: DannyBrandt: Can I ask a dumb question?

Why in the f*ck should we even WANT to manufacture steel here? If we're buying it from other countries that have cheaper labor and extraction prices... who do you know in your life that WANTS to work in a steel mill?

Let the other countries do it, cheaper. Educate your own populace above wanting to work in a coal fired smelter. Then import it far cheaper than you can make it. I know those hills aren't going to billy themselves, but maybe actually try to produce something useful and be paid a respectful wage.


Because where else are the braindead slobs going to work?  The other side of the curve on IQ has
to do something...The Steel Mill pays well, it's "manly" work, and it supports a lot of other, "manly" trades
like truck driving, and heavy equipment operators...

This... We need jobs for those people who tend to be not so bright... But who can, if paid a good wage, be contributing member of society... Think of what Ford and GM workers were making in the 70's and 80's... They were strongly middle class. 2 cars, maybe a boat, hunting cabin... enough money for the kids to go to college.

We've lost so many of those jobs the people are screaming for change or looking for someone to blame.

Hence the rise of Nationalism.

We've seen this story before. Middle class jobs that pay well are VITAL for out type of society.

Like, super, super important.


FSM forbid we institute a basic income...
 
2020-09-24 7:33:15 PM  
Personally I like to work with my hands, I can't stand office work. I'm a MMA(SS) in the Navy, the closest civilian description is outside machinist. I work with everything that is involved with gas or liquid not directly related to the reactor or propulsion. As much as a pain in the ass as my job can be I'll do it any day over being stuck in an office or having to sell shiat to people while pretending to be polite. Democrats are drifting away from people like me, and it shows by the Trump flags idiots I work around fly off their farking trucks, and the republicans are already far gone from my well-being. Computers will be able to replace IT and software people long before they can replace what I can do. The Democratic party is the only one that has a plan to help people like me work in the clean energy industry, but they aren't trying to sell it hard enough to get through to the people that can do the work. I hope for a good future, I'm just very pessimistic.
 
2020-09-25 9:53:10 AM  

Mr. Shabooboo: DannyBrandt: Can I ask a dumb question?

Why in the f*ck should we even WANT to manufacture steel here? If we're buying it from other countries that have cheaper labor and extraction prices... who do you know in your life that WANTS to work in a steel mill?

Let the other countries do it, cheaper. Educate your own populace above wanting to work in a coal fired smelter. Then import it far cheaper than you can make it. I know those hills aren't going to billy themselves, but maybe actually try to produce something useful and be paid a respectful wage.


Because where else are the braindead slobs going to work?  The other side of the curve on IQ has
to do something...The Steel Mill pays well, it's "manly" work, and it supports a lot of other, "manly" trades
like truck driving, and heavy equipment operators...


I understand your frustration with the "brain dead", etc.  I live in a rural area and we even had a guy in our town paint a very large "Trump" on his barn.  It looks just lovely in the background of the 20 or so fascist-type flags he has lining two sides of his tiny property.  I was so glad I wore primarily sandals this summer as I told myself that I'd be injured while pulling over and kicking down campaign signs and "my Governor is an idiot" signs (I live in Michigan) that I see every day.  Not to mention our Township Police chief (who also is moran), plus the county Sheriff (who is likely worse), openly declared, in the papers, they refused to enforce masks be worn in public.  You can guess how well the rednecks adhere to the Executive order around here.

My point is, I work as a construction manager, and there is a similar sentiment among many about the men and women in the trades.  Although Union skilled trades, they are still subjected to being looked down upon by "professionals" and others.  Although you speak of those in the manufacturing sector, which admittedly are typically less skilled, they do a very difficult, brutal job that I can't imagine you or I would really like to do.  For many years in this country it needed to be done here, by the types of people you describe.  Please remember they are also human beings.  Any whiff of dehumanizing behavior makes us just like those on power we despise.
 
2020-09-25 9:54:47 AM  

Gonzo317: Mr. Shabooboo: As someone that lives not far from that plant...I can confirm that a lot of redneck morons
(And i mean MORONS too,willfully ignorant, and dense as the farking lead that circulates in their blood.)
Despite being in a major metro area, the culture in Granite City is like that of some
backwoods hollow in Kentucky..A very large chunk of the  people are; racist, xenophobic, willfully ignorant,
and proud of all of that...Granite City was a, "Sundown Town" even into the 60's...And people there
REALLY pine for that again..It's not uncommon for people there to still mention that, as an example of
their utopian fantasy..But it's also a bastion of Union power..There is no way that area would support
the magic orange manbaby..

Sorry I don't buy it.  My hometown was a bastion of Union power as well.  So much so that the National Guard was called in because of a strike at a local plant in the 50's.  They started going Republican in the 80's and never looked back.  So now the plant in question is non-union and shipping stuff to the previous company that owned it.  Most of the jobs pay a little more than minimum wage to work in a living hell.  Guess who a large majority of those people are backing this time around?  Those are the people who put him in office 2016 and they are going to double down this time around.


Been part of our local since 1998.  Tons of frumpsters over here.
 
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