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2020-09-24 7:55:15 PM  

RedVentrue: .

Must be a HUUUUGE epidemic of drug deliveries by Amazon right now. Are they allowed to deliver drugs?


Drug dealers are using mail services to receive shipments.

the thing is if you suspect that that means you can actually intercept a package before it even arrives at the suspect's house so again the story the cops present doesn't match with how they behave
 
2020-09-24 8:04:07 PM  

vestona22: Was he shot at first?  'Cause the police involved in the Breonna Taylor shooting were shot at first by her boyfriend.  Or are we not allowed to mention that?


So, pro tip: If you're woken up in the middle of the night by heavily-armed, unidentified intruders who don't even mention they're police, you can not just morally, but legally open fire in just about every state, even if you're black.

Because they might actually be bad guys.
 
2020-09-24 8:22:47 PM  

Magnanimous_J: Kenneth Walker, the boyfriend, had a strong enough self-defense case that they dropped charges against him. However, the police were still serving a lawful warrant when they returned fire. That third idiot, who actually got indicted, didn't hit anything. The killing rounds were fired by the other two, one of which had just been shot himself.

I believe that Kenneth Walker believed the cops were intruders. But the cops didn't know that. Shooting back, in that situation, seems more than reasonable.

I just don't see how this would be a murder case and considering that no one would give a flying fark about any of this had Breonna Taylor been anything but black, the whole thing reeks of agenda and deliberate manipulation.

And I farking hate cops most of the time.


At best it would have been negligent homicide or manslaughter, given the cops clearly didn't actually intend to shoot her. But I'm sure Fark's trusted lawyers will correct me.
 
2020-09-24 8:53:16 PM  

waxbeans: RedVentrue: .

Must be a HUUUUGE epidemic of drug deliveries by Amazon right now. Are they allowed to deliver drugs?

Drug dealers are using mail services to receive shipments.

the thing is if you suspect that that means you can actually intercept a package before it even arrives at the suspect's house so again the story the cops present doesn't match with how they behave


Right, but does Amazon?
 
2020-09-24 9:45:38 PM  

Magnanimous_J: I believe that Kenneth Walker believed the cops were intruders. But the cops didn't know that. Shooting back, in that situation, seems more than reasonable.


3 cops in street clothes busting someone's door down in the middle of the night, and 11 out of 12 witnesses said they didn't say anything to identify themselves before the shots were fired.

These guys are supposed to be detectives. It doesn't take a detective to know that if you bust down someone's door in the middle of the night and there's nothing on you to ID you as a cop, the resident is likely to come out of the bedroom shooting.
 
2020-09-24 10:04:39 PM  

Geotpf: Medic Zero: Your narrative omits the part where Breonna and her boyfriend repeatedly shout "who's there?". If the police wanted to identify themselves they could have.

I wasn't actually aware of that, although that does make sense.

Anyways, the cops farked up no matter what, because even during a no knock raid, they are supposed to yell something like "Police We Have a Search Warrant" very clearly while kicking in the door, specifically to prevent this sort of incident.  But does the lack of doing so (intentional or not) cause them to lose self defense status once the apartment occupant starts shooting?  I suppose you could make that argument, but I seriously doubt it's a winning one.  It strikes me as the way to a hung jury at best.


Well, they aren't charging the boyfriend for taking the shot and striking that cop in the femoral artery and nearly killing him, so I'd say they already decided that.

Or despite what some are saying, the protests are having some effect, and given the current atmosphere they decided it wasn't a good idea to move forward on bullshiat charges against him.
 
2020-09-24 10:13:44 PM  

Magnanimous_J: Kenneth Walker, the boyfriend, had a strong enough self-defense case that they dropped charges against him. However, the police were still serving a lawful warrant when they returned fire. That third idiot, who actually got indicted, didn't hit anything. The killing rounds were fired by the other two, one of which had just been shot himself.

I believe that Kenneth Walker believed the cops were intruders. But the cops didn't know that. Shooting back, in that situation, seems more than reasonable.

I just don't see how this would be a murder case and considering that no one would give a flying fark about any of this had Breonna Taylor been anything but black, the whole thing reeks of agenda and deliberate manipulation.

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And I farking hate cops most of the time.

shhh facts don't matter in a good old fark ragebatin
 
2020-09-24 10:17:21 PM  

waxbeans: Medic Zero: waxbeans: vestona22: Actually it was just after midnight.  They were at the right address.  And she wasn't standing next to him naked.

But you're obviously well informed.

Well the cops own information makes it clear the cops saw TB place as stash house. So she wasn't dealing.
Next, the man shooting at the police was legally carrying.
People who still have the right to carry don't knowingly stay at trap houses or stash houses.
Next, how is it the cops claim to know packages are being picked up and delivered but don't know a legal gun owner visits and stays over night?
Next, BT would be in a good position to flip, so why would she resist arrest and why would you arrest her in the most provocative manner?
Lastly everything I've said is based on what the police have said not on anything the suspects have said.

Some of you all don't pay any attention and are something.
But....to say more would be c######
🙄

The deliveries were clothes and shoes. The police trying to say Amazon deliveries are drug drops is ridiculous.

My point is
Even if I believe what the cops claimed they was thinking.
In their own words.

I still have issue with the end results.

It doesn't make sense.
And no one should be defending it.
I try to tear down people's stories using their own facts.
And using the police statements I try to follow their narrative that they claim but their statements and their narrative they're trying to paint don't fit.


Much like the OJ Simpson case Marcia Clark painted OJ Simpson as a hot head they would get upset and violent and act out.
That was her contention.
Okay using your own contention substantiate your contention.
what does she do she shows OJ being friendly with someone he allegedly kills hours later.
That would be okay if he showed another interaction in between and claimed that they got into a fight at that point.
But that's not what happened.
If you examine what people say and then see if it actually makes sense that is where you find the cr ...


"They clearly thought her house was a stash house".

Maybe, I'm partial to the theory that they thought she had a bunch of cash handy because she was going to bail her ex out of jail (something they overheard on a jailhouse phone call) and they falsified the warrant so they could rob her of the cash.

We know cops do this all the time all over the country, so it's not far fetched.
 
2020-09-25 4:49:23 AM  

JAGChem82: Hypocrisy is the essence of conservative politics in general


FTFY.  Here's just one example:

Political Roundup: The Greens' private school funding scandal
 
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