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(The Union Leader)   Mainiacs are done with heroin, switched entirely to fentanyl   (unionleader.com) divider line
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2020-09-23 6:47:32 PM  
This shiat is awful. No snark. Just...don't. Please.
 
2020-09-23 7:22:49 PM  

Straight Outta Wells Branch: This shiat is awful. No snark. Just...don't. Please.


I would have thought, given how popular it is, that it must be a farking epic high?

/you're not wrong
//don't. It will kill you
 
2020-09-23 7:46:02 PM  
Doesn't take much to kill even a serious junkie. Don't play with that stuff.
 
2020-09-23 7:46:24 PM  
Sounds like a self correcting problem.
 
2020-09-23 7:46:37 PM  
It's cheap because you can transport a lot of it easily since it's so potent. You don't need much in terms of weight. I give it to my patients in the hospital all the time, and have never had an adverse event because I give appropriate doses.  It actually gets patients less "high" than the other stuff I give.  It's a good drug for hospital pain, and that's about it. Using an unknown dose at home is borderline suicidal.
 
2020-09-23 7:48:11 PM  

ChubbyTiger: Doesn't take much to kill even a serious junkie. Don't play with that stuff.


It only takes a tiny little speck about the size of Mickey Rooney.
 
2020-09-23 7:50:19 PM  

jso2897: ChubbyTiger: Doesn't take much to kill even a serious junkie. Don't play with that stuff.

It only takes a tiny little speck about the size of Mickey Rooney.


It just so happens to be Mickey Rooney's birthday! Coincidence? Yeah, probably
 
2020-09-23 7:50:30 PM  
they said street value seized $720K. wonder how much they got for it.
 
2020-09-23 7:54:47 PM  
The opioid epidemic was solved in 2017.

It's weird that you guys don't remember.
 
2020-09-23 7:56:01 PM  
I don't understand it. From what I've seen (Discover or some shiat... with the narrator speaking with a low voice, that I wish I had so my entire career could be voice-overs for TV programs), heroin and the like cause people to pass out.  Is that really fun or does the buzz get em feeling really great that they can laze about and experience nothing all day?  Why do heroin addicts want to get high other than the drug?  What's a heroin high like?
 
2020-09-23 7:56:15 PM  
Unfortunately it's used to cut other drugs with tragic results.
 
2020-09-23 7:59:53 PM  

Brakeline: I don't understand it. From what I've seen (Discover or some shiat... with the narrator speaking with a low voice, that I wish I had so my entire career could be voice-overs for TV programs), heroin and the like cause people to pass out.  Is that really fun or does the buzz get em feeling really great that they can laze about and experience nothing all day?  Why do heroin addicts want to get high other than the drug?  What's a heroin high like?


Do you like gladiator movies?
 
2020-09-23 8:00:36 PM  
I was given fentanyl at the hospital right before the nurse shoved an 8" aluminum spike in my side to drain an intestinal abscess. They could've cut off both arms and all three legs and I don't think I'd have felt it or given half a fark.

When used/administered properly, fentanyl isn't half bad.
 
2020-09-23 8:05:19 PM  
Listen, opiates are a real biatch to get addicted to. Trust me on this one.

But legalizing the MF'ers is seriously the best way to go on this. At least you can standardize the doses and prevent OD's. If you want to save human life, that's what's needed. It's really exactly that simple.

But whatever. No-knock-warrants, incineration of the 4th amendment... that must continue unabated.
 
2020-09-23 8:05:47 PM  
I think putting the poppy growers out of business would change a lot of politics in Asia and where ever opium is processed into heroin. If it was cheaper it could help lower crime rate. There used to be places you could have your drugs tested for strength. There was a weekly radio report of street drug testing back in the '70s.
So a cheaper, more reliable product for people who are addicted, and need to kill themselves a little every night.
 
2020-09-23 8:05:58 PM  
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2020-09-23 8:06:19 PM  

spleef420: I was given fentanyl at the hospital right before the nurse shoved an 8" aluminum spike in my side to drain an intestinal abscess. They could've cut off both arms and all three legs and I don't think I'd have felt it or given half a fark.

When used/administered properly, fentanyl isn't half bad.


Yep.  I had a grand total of 5 MICROgrams (other medication dosages are in milligrams) when things went from bad to worse and nothing else was working.  It took me from screaming pain to okay, that hurts, but I can function now.  It didn't last long for me.  Told the nurse that they had 30 minutes to get the images they wanted before I start screaming again so they could figure out WTF was wrong with my insides.
 
2020-09-23 8:06:49 PM  

Gubbo: Straight Outta Wells Branch: This shiat is awful. No snark. Just...don't. Please.

I would have thought, given how popular it is, that it must be a farking epic high?

/you're not wrong
//don't. It will kill you


Used to be that people's livers beginning to give out because of hep C was a prime suspect in OD deaths of highly experienced junkies. Now there's just less margin for error, because fentanyl is so farking potent. As it has made its way into the dope supply, my list of dead loser long time acquaintances has grown steadily apace.
/ Might be another one soon.
// Has used his successful insanely expensive Hep C treatment as an excuse to resume bad habits
/// Now drinks like a chav on Spanish holiday, and is complaining that he can't find good coke anymore.
//// I give him somewhere between 2 weeks and 2 months to resume injecting opiates.
 
2020-09-23 8:08:06 PM  

SpaceyCat: spleef420: I was given fentanyl at the hospital right before the nurse shoved an 8" aluminum spike in my side to drain an intestinal abscess. They could've cut off both arms and all three legs and I don't think I'd have felt it or given half a fark.

When used/administered properly, fentanyl isn't half bad.

Yep.  I had a grand total of 5 MICROgrams (other medication dosages are in milligrams) when things went from bad to worse and nothing else was working.  It took me from screaming pain to okay, that hurts, but I can function now.  It didn't last long for me.  Told the nurse that they had 30 minutes to get the images they wanted before I start screaming again so they could figure out WTF was wrong with my insides.


5 mcg is a super small dose, even for fentanyl.  I'm guessing you actually had 50mcg.
 
2020-09-23 8:09:54 PM  

spleef420: I was given fentanyl at the hospital right before the nurse shoved an 8" aluminum spike in my side to drain an intestinal abscess. They could've cut off both arms and all three legs and I don't think I'd have felt it or given half a fark.

When used/administered properly, fentanyl isn't half bad.


Friend had a colonoscopy and tells a similar story.
 
2020-09-23 8:10:28 PM  

sophus_tree: [Fark user image 425x239]


Carfentanil is the bomb. Coming soon! Because it's not much harder than Fentanyl to manufacture.
 
2020-09-23 8:11:08 PM  
Still no cure for pain.
 
2020-09-23 8:11:23 PM  

Gubbo: Friend had a colonoscopy and tells a similar story.


The trick is to keep the story, really, really short.
 
2020-09-23 8:11:55 PM  

dark brew: 5 mcg is a super small dose, even for fentanyl. I'm guessing you actually had 50mcg.


Could be.  I was so out of it, I don't remember much of that time period.
 
2020-09-23 8:12:19 PM  

fragMasterFlash: Still no cure for pain.


Sure there is.  Dying makes all pain go away.
 
2020-09-23 8:15:02 PM  

SpaceyCat: dark brew: 5 mcg is a super small dose, even for fentanyl. I'm guessing you actually had 50mcg.

Could be.  I was so out of it, I don't remember much of that time period.


25 mcg is the smallest dose I give when doping people up in the ambulance, and that's for either very small or very old people.  200 pound person would get 100 mcg to start.

It's a great drug for my purpose, I hardly ever go to dilaudid or morphine any more.
 
2020-09-23 8:16:52 PM  
Thsts progress in a way.
 
2020-09-23 8:17:55 PM  

dark brew: SpaceyCat: dark brew: 5 mcg is a super small dose, even for fentanyl. I'm guessing you actually had 50mcg.

Could be.  I was so out of it, I don't remember much of that time period.

25 mcg is the smallest dose I give when doping people up in the ambulance, and that's for either very small or very old people.  200 pound person would get 100 mcg to start.

It's a great drug for my purpose, I hardly ever go to dilaudid or morphine any more.


Do you need a doctor approval to give that in an ambulance?

Not that it matters, I'm just remembering the stories about how some first responders weren't allowed carry narcan
 
2020-09-23 8:18:54 PM  

Destructor: Listen, opiates are a real biatch to get addicted to. Trust me on this one.

But legalizing the MF'ers is seriously the best way to go on this. At least you can standardize the doses and prevent OD's. If you want to save human life, that's what's needed. It's really exactly that simple.

But whatever. No-knock-warrants, incineration of the 4th amendment... that must continue unabated.


Yes but there's a lot more money to be made in keeping all drugs illegal.  Those private prisons don't fund themselves.  Plus cops would really be bored not pulling over cars for burnt out tail lights in order to go on a fishing expedition.

Drug addiction is a medical problem.  The sooner we stop locking people up for that the better off we will be.
 
2020-09-23 8:21:51 PM  

dark brew: 25 mcg is the smallest dose I give when doping people up in the ambulance


They only had morphine in the ambulance, though they tried it.  I felt the "WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!" for about 10 seconds and then went back to screaming.
 
2020-09-23 8:23:24 PM  

Gubbo: dark brew: SpaceyCat: dark brew: 5 mcg is a super small dose, even for fentanyl. I'm guessing you actually had 50mcg.

Could be.  I was so out of it, I don't remember much of that time period.

25 mcg is the smallest dose I give when doping people up in the ambulance, and that's for either very small or very old people.  200 pound person would get 100 mcg to start.

It's a great drug for my purpose, I hardly ever go to dilaudid or morphine any more.

Do you need a doctor approval to give that in an ambulance?

Not that it matters, I'm just remembering the stories about how some first responders weren't allowed carry narcan


Doctor approval comes in the form of a set of standing written orders we follow.  So if a person is in pain, I follow the pain control protocol and select which medicine I want to use.  We carry around 40 medications and only actually have to contact a ER physician for 2 of them in certain instances (magnesium sulfate for pre-ecclampsia and pitocin for postpartum hemorrhage).  Everything else is up to my judgment and what I can defend.  This is for Idaho though, other states are more restrictive and make their medics call in for almost everything (CA and NJ come to mind).
 
2020-09-23 8:27:47 PM  

fragMasterFlash: Still no cure for pain.


That's a morphine reference I'm fond of.
 
2020-09-23 8:30:23 PM  

dark brew: Drug addiction is a medical problem. The sooner we stop locking people up for that the better off we will be.


I agree.
 
2020-09-23 8:31:56 PM  

SpaceyCat: fragMasterFlash: Still no cure for pain.

Sure there is.  Dying makes all pain go away.


I mean, we *hope* it does.  But we've never had a chance to ask a dead person, to make sure.

Doctor Who: Dark Water - The afterlife isn't what you think it is
Youtube 8pYPpIJxtTA


/three little words
 
2020-09-23 8:32:17 PM  

SpaceyCat: fragMasterFlash: Still no cure for pain.

Sure there is.  Dying makes all pain go away.


Only hurts the first time.
 
2020-09-23 8:33:14 PM  
Talk to the politically-backed drug dealers. The pharmaceutical companies. 90% of the addicts I met in rehab were hooked through doctors. I was okay because I'm only an alcoholic.

That last sentence was a very bad joke. The rest is true.
 
2020-09-23 8:41:27 PM  

fragMasterFlash: Still no cure for pain.


Yes there is, and it's an awesome album.
Morphine - Cure for pain (Album Version)
Youtube lqpcrpC3P28
 
2020-09-23 8:46:07 PM  
 
2020-09-23 8:51:10 PM  

Destructor: sophus_tree: [Fark user image 425x239]

Carfentanil is the bomb. Coming soon! Because it's not much harder than Fentanyl to manufacture.


Username checks out
 
2020-09-23 8:53:46 PM  

Ragin' Asian: Talk to the politically-backed drug dealers. The pharmaceutical companies. 90% of the addicts I met in rehab were hooked through doctors. I was okay because I'm only an alcoholic.

That last sentence was a very bad joke. The rest is true.


An alcoholic will steal your wallet but a junkie will steal your wallet and help you look for it.
 
2020-09-23 8:53:52 PM  
My mother-in-law was on a fentanyl patch for her last few days, at least she died pain free
 
2020-09-23 8:59:26 PM  

sophus_tree: Destructor: sophus_tree: [Fark user image 425x239]

Carfentanil is the bomb. Coming soon! Because it's not much harder than Fentanyl to manufacture.

Username checks out


Honestly, at this point, it's easier to point out when it doesn't.
 
2020-09-23 9:00:29 PM  

Ragin' Asian: Talk to the politically-backed drug dealers. The pharmaceutical companies. 90% of the addicts I met in rehab were hooked through doctors. I was okay because I'm only an alcoholic.

That last sentence was a very bad joke. The rest is true.


I separated my AC joint a few years ago. It was a grade 1 separation, so no surgery but it was pretty painful. Doctor prescribed Percocet. It made me feel nauseated, I wound up just taking generic ibuprofen and it seemed to be just as good on the pain.

A few years later I tore my biceps tendon (same shoulder, thank you). Different Doc offered me Percocet or Percodan (my choice) for the pain. I said no thanks, Advil is fine. He refused to believe me and gave me a prescription for Percocet, "just in case".

But no, Doctors aren't pushing opioids. Why would you think such a thing?
 
2020-09-23 9:03:16 PM  
Yes thank you DEA and the war on drugs BS for intentionally making this happen. Nice work also turning Afghanistan back into a giant opium field too. Maybe you should convince Trump to tariff all the illegal chinese drugs, of which 100% of the fentayl is coming from.
 
2020-09-23 9:09:23 PM  
Had surgery recently awake but sedated with fentanyl.  Good lord that was pleasant.
 
2020-09-23 9:09:50 PM  
I see the end results of Fentanyl toxicity all the time.  Stat away from Fentanyl. That shiat will kill you.
 
2020-09-23 9:11:22 PM  
We give our lithotripsy patients a fentanyl lollipop ahead of the treatment.
 
2020-09-23 9:12:01 PM  

chuggernaught: I see the end results of Fentanyl toxicity all the time.  Stat away from Fentanyl. That shiat will kill you.


Of course I mean stay away from it unless prescribed by a physician. If it is prescribed just pray the physician knows what they are doing.
 
2020-09-23 9:28:52 PM  

Brakeline: I don't understand it. From what I've seen (Discover or some shiat... with the narrator speaking with a low voice, that I wish I had so my entire career could be voice-overs for TV programs), heroin and the like cause people to pass out.  Is that really fun or does the buzz get em feeling really great that they can laze about and experience nothing all day?  Why do heroin addicts want to get high other than the drug?  What's a heroin high like?


I knew someone who was on heroin for a year. She was depressed and her bf was mixing it in with weed. First she was mad when she found out, then she smoked some, and then she was shooting it up.

She said once she shot up, it was like, "this is what want I want to do for the rest of my life". Better than sex. And then her life spiraled out of control of course. She did all the drugs, sometimes at once. She would just lay around, do drugs. I would knock on her door to make sure she was still alive sometimes.

She kicked it with a little of my help. There is nothing like a junkie crying at night, threatening everyone, or them stealing someone's pain pills and taking them *all*. She ran away once to get high, but got too drunk to continue the trek while waiting for the dealer to answer. I had to knock on a strangers door to find her.

She eventually stayed sober for over a year, last I heard. I helped her get her kids back, get a good job, and find a good home to rent. I hope she stays sober.

She said quitting cigarettes is worse than quitting heroin, fyi.
 
2020-09-23 9:48:59 PM  

Brakeline: I don't understand it. From what I've seen (Discover or some shiat... with the narrator speaking with a low voice, that I wish I had so my entire career could be voice-overs for TV programs), heroin and the like cause people to pass out.  Is that really fun or does the buzz get em feeling really great that they can laze about and experience nothing all day?  Why do heroin addicts want to get high other than the drug?  What's a heroin high like?


Imagine the best orgasm you ever had. Multiply by 1000. That is the description I have routinely been given. I love drugs but I don't do needles.

As it applies to making you sleepy, heroin is similar to ye olde Quaaludes. Yes, it can put you down but if you fight it, the high is amazing.

Disclosure, I've snorted heroin but you don't get the full effect with out needles apparently. Also, any remaining Quaaludes are so far out of date that they are dangerous. Supposedly, there is some mythical factory somewhere that still makes them.
 
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