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(NBC News)   Demographic shifts in America since 2016 could be enough to defeat Trump because his core demographic of cultists is declining. Here's an interactive tool to show you why   (nbcnews.com) divider line
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sithon [TotalFark]
2020-09-23 4:48:21 PM  
31 votes:
That's why they're cheating. They see the writing on the wall. It's also why Trump is starting his "patriotic education" fund , in order to brainwash some young people into being republicans
 
BMFPitt [TotalFark]
2020-09-23 4:26:52 PM  
31 votes:
People have been confidently declaring this since at least GW Bush's first term.
 
Rwa2play [TotalFark]
2020-09-23 4:52:08 PM  
25 votes:

raerae1980: I guess this makes me feel better....but it really all hinges on which party gets more turnout.  I hate that old people vote so reliably.


Well if young people voted as reliably as old people have we'd be talking about President-Elect Sanders.
 
raerae1980 [TotalFark]
2020-09-23 4:36:34 PM  
23 votes:
I guess this makes me feel better....but it really all hinges on which party gets more turnout.  I hate that old people vote so reliably.
 
Angry Drunk Bureaucrat [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2020-09-23 5:02:27 PM  
22 votes:

raerae1980: Hubby got discouraged the other day and started talking about voting 3rd party and i tried to talk him out of it.


I hope it went like this:

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Angry Drunk Bureaucrat [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2020-09-23 4:45:05 PM  
22 votes:

raerae1980: it really all hinges on which party gets more turnout.


Which party gets turn out AND where they turn out.  An extra 50,000 Democrats turning out in CA is different than an extra 50,000 turning out in PA.
 
mjjt [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2020-09-23 4:25:39 PM  
19 votes:
And perhaps they're dying at a higher rate bc they refuse to take precautions against hoax diseases
 
Target Builder
2020-09-23 5:08:31 PM  
12 votes:
This is why the GOP is going ALL IN.

They've spent 40+ years building an ethnic based coalition with a shrinking demographic, that's almost certain to be unable to win the Presidency in 2024. If they lose this round they'll regroup, and rebrand, and rebuild with a new coalition eventually- but it'll take many many years.

A more viable path for them is to make elections not matter anymore.
 
LordJiro [BareFark] [OhFark]
2020-09-23 5:06:05 PM  
11 votes:

BMFPitt: People have been confidently declaring this since at least GW Bush's first term.


And funnily enough, Republicans have only won* the popular vote once since then. Even their Congresscritters represent a significant minority of Americans.

*this is questionable, at best, given various shenanigans in places like Ohio.
 
austerity101 [TotalFark]
2020-09-23 5:20:21 PM  
9 votes:

forgotmydamnusername: raerae1980: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: raerae1980: it really all hinges on which party gets more turnout.

Which party gets turn out AND where they turn out.  An extra 50,000 Democrats turning out in CA is different than an extra 50,000 turning out in PA.

For real, Dude.  Hubby got discouraged the other day and started talking about voting 3rd party and i tried to talk him out of it.   But he's more Gen-X than me, and wasn't budgen.  His apathy was showing.   This was before RBG's death, though.

That's not really about GenX, that's just pigheadedness and political science illiteracy showing. Although IIRC you're in S. California. Given that Trump has a zero percent chance in California, your husband does have more latitude to waste his vote and yet not fark the rest of us over than he would in Ohio.


I hate this reasoning because it's really just outsourcing your civic duties.  The reason that California is reliably blue is because Democratic voters reliably vote there in large numbers.  Looking at that and going "Guess I don't need to help and I can do whatever I want" is lazy and dangerous thinking.
 
LordJiro [BareFark] [OhFark]
2020-09-23 5:07:04 PM  
8 votes:

austerity101: raerae1980: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: raerae1980: it really all hinges on which party gets more turnout.

Which party gets turn out AND where they turn out.  An extra 50,000 Democrats turning out in CA is different than an extra 50,000 turning out in PA.

For real, Dude.  Hubby got discouraged the other day and started talking about voting 3rd party and i tried to talk him out of it.   But he's more Gen-X than me, and wasn't budgen.  His apathy was showing.   This was before RBG's death, though.

What do you think it would take to get him to vote for Biden?


Pointing out that it is 100% impossible for a third party to win this election since none, as far as I can tell, are on all the  ballots, and thus that voting third party is effectively voting for Trump?
 
tkgeisha
2020-09-23 5:33:11 PM  
7 votes:
The key? Trump's unprecedented 37-point margin among white voters without four-year college degrees,

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GardenWeasel [TotalFark]
2020-09-23 4:43:25 PM  
7 votes:
The jackholes patrolling Louisville are not elderly
 
ocd002
2020-09-23 5:24:15 PM  
6 votes:

raerae1980: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: raerae1980: it really all hinges on which party gets more turnout.

Which party gets turn out AND where they turn out.  An extra 50,000 Democrats turning out in CA is different than an extra 50,000 turning out in PA.

For real, Dude.  Hubby got discouraged the other day and started talking about voting 3rd party and i tried to talk him out of it.   But he's more Gen-X than me, and wasn't budgen.  His apathy was showing.   This was before RBG's death, though.



There's only two viable choices this year, Biden or trump. This is not the year to third party vote.
 
raerae1980 [TotalFark]
2020-09-23 4:59:40 PM  
6 votes:

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: raerae1980: it really all hinges on which party gets more turnout.

Which party gets turn out AND where they turn out.  An extra 50,000 Democrats turning out in CA is different than an extra 50,000 turning out in PA.


For real, Dude.  Hubby got discouraged the other day and started talking about voting 3rd party and i tried to talk him out of it.   But he's more Gen-X than me, and wasn't budgen.  His apathy was showing.   This was before RBG's death, though.
 
forgotmydamnusername
2020-09-23 5:15:14 PM  
5 votes:

raerae1980: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: raerae1980: it really all hinges on which party gets more turnout.

Which party gets turn out AND where they turn out.  An extra 50,000 Democrats turning out in CA is different than an extra 50,000 turning out in PA.

For real, Dude.  Hubby got discouraged the other day and started talking about voting 3rd party and i tried to talk him out of it.   But he's more Gen-X than me, and wasn't budgen.  His apathy was showing.   This was before RBG's death, though.


That's not really about GenX, that's just pigheadedness and political science illiteracy showing. Although IIRC you're in S. California. Given that Trump has a zero percent chance in California, your husband does have more latitude to waste his vote and yet not fark the rest of us over than he would in Ohio.
 
austerity101 [TotalFark]
2020-09-23 5:12:43 PM  
5 votes:

LordJiro: austerity101: raerae1980: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: raerae1980: it really all hinges on which party gets more turnout.

Which party gets turn out AND where they turn out.  An extra 50,000 Democrats turning out in CA is different than an extra 50,000 turning out in PA.

For real, Dude.  Hubby got discouraged the other day and started talking about voting 3rd party and i tried to talk him out of it.   But he's more Gen-X than me, and wasn't budgen.  His apathy was showing.   This was before RBG's death, though.

What do you think it would take to get him to vote for Biden?

Pointing out that it is 100% impossible for a third party to win this election since none, as far as I can tell, are on all the  ballots, and thus that voting third party is effectively voting for Trump?


No, that's been shown not to work, particularly since raerae explicitly said they tried.  What I was asking is what he needs from the Democratic Party in order to convince him to vote.  It might help us gain insight into why other voters are planning on voting third-party or abstaining.
 
BMFPitt [TotalFark]
2020-09-23 5:40:47 PM  
4 votes:

Nadie_AZ: No. It isn't broken. That's the sh*t of it all.


Well it is, but the quoted part is it working as designed.  The broken part was the Electoral College failing to do its one job.
 
Boondock3806 [TotalFark]
2020-09-23 5:36:08 PM  
4 votes:

monsatano: austerity101: raerae1980: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: raerae1980: it really all hinges on which party gets more turnout.

Which party gets turn out AND where they turn out.  An extra 50,000 Democrats turning out in CA is different than an extra 50,000 turning out in PA.

For real, Dude.  Hubby got discouraged the other day and started talking about voting 3rd party and i tried to talk him out of it.   But he's more Gen-X than me, and wasn't budgen.  His apathy was showing.   This was before RBG's death, though.

What do you think it would take to get him to vote for Biden?

I would suggest blowjobs. Lots of blowjobs.

/works on me


No amount of blowjobs could get me to even lie to a Tinder hookup about voting for trump.
 
Lexx
2020-09-23 5:06:30 PM  
4 votes:
It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes.
 
NeoMoxie [TotalFark]
2020-09-23 6:12:53 PM  
3 votes:
Dear young people, "Don't Vote"
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Walker [TotalFark]
2020-09-23 5:29:45 PM  
3 votes:

GoldSpider: Oh, this mental masturbation again?  How long have people been waiting for the old segregation-era racists to die off, ushering in permanent Democratic Party victory?


Always new racists to replace the old ones, but nothing they can do about the changing demographics.
Country is getting less white, more diverse. Good for Democrats, bad for Republicans.
 
blondambition [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2020-09-23 5:19:58 PM  
3 votes:

raerae1980: I guess this makes me feel better....but it really all hinges on which party gets more turnout.  I hate that old people vote so reliably.


Well, this old person has voted straight ticket D since Hector was a pup.
 
palelizard
2020-09-23 5:18:22 PM  
3 votes:

LordJiro: austerity101: raerae1980: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: raerae1980: it really all hinges on which party gets more turnout.

Which party gets turn out AND where they turn out.  An extra 50,000 Democrats turning out in CA is different than an extra 50,000 turning out in PA.

For real, Dude.  Hubby got discouraged the other day and started talking about voting 3rd party and i tried to talk him out of it.   But he's more Gen-X than me, and wasn't budgen.  His apathy was showing.   This was before RBG's death, though.

What do you think it would take to get him to vote for Biden?

Pointing out that it is 100% impossible for a third party to win this election since none, as far as I can tell, are on all the  ballots, and thus that voting third party is effectively voting for Trump?


It's not voting for Trump. It is voting for being willing to accept Trump, though.
 
Grungehamster [TotalFark]
2020-09-23 5:17:02 PM  
3 votes:
Republicans see demographics as destiny and feel slighted that as whites become a plurality and the last few Southern population centers turns their states purple the chances they will have majority support for their viewpoints will be swallowed by the sea of Other who are going to change the country from what it would be if everything was static.

Democrats feel slighted that norms that came into being in the last half of the 20th century have been violated to maximize power and influence by Republicans to ensure that their opinions are still strongly represented in the system even after they no longer hold the reigns of power.

Both sides are convinced they are seeing a future that is fundamentally unfair to their worldview, and that something has to be done about it.
 
demaL-demaL-yeH [TotalFark]
2020-09-23 5:12:29 PM  
3 votes:

raerae1980: I guess this makes me feel better....but it really all hinges on which party gets more turnout.  I hate that old people vote so reliably.


People are fine. Racists of all ages are not.
 
Walker [TotalFark]
2020-09-23 5:11:34 PM  
3 votes:

Target Builder: This is why the GOP is going ALL IN.

They've spent 40+ years building an ethnic based coalition with a shrinking demographic, that's almost certain to be unable to win the Presidency in 2024. If they lose this round they'll regroup, and rebrand, and rebuild with a new coalition eventually- but it'll take many many years.

A more viable path for them is to make elections not matter anymore.


Once Texas goes blue (which it will) the GOP's days of winning the Presidency, control of Congress, etc. are over.
 
Crewmannumber6
2020-09-23 5:06:35 PM  
3 votes:
Because he just killed a large number of them?
 
raerae1980 [TotalFark]
2020-09-23 5:06:10 PM  
3 votes:

Rwa2play: raerae1980: I guess this makes me feel better....but it really all hinges on which party gets more turnout.  I hate that old people vote so reliably.

Well if young people voted as reliably as old people have we'd be talking about President-Elect Sanders.


(._. )
 
quiotu
2020-09-23 5:04:58 PM  
3 votes:
Was one of the outcomes really about Trump getting a second term from winning over non-whites?

... get the fark outta here...
 
Farkonaut
2020-09-23 5:48:16 PM  
2 votes:
I'm not prone to conspiracy but when I see: 77,444 as a number.
It's just too damned perfect.
 
quiotu
2020-09-23 5:39:01 PM  
2 votes:

ImmutableTenderloin: OUTRAGE!!!!

Oh wait, an article that has rational, grounded, talking points.


Well, except for the outcome where Trump wins with non-whites. Pretty sure that's not happening anytime soon...
 
Boondock3806 [TotalFark]
2020-09-23 5:33:59 PM  
2 votes:
The vote suppression machine has grown out of control since 2016 as well.
 
GoldSpider
2020-09-23 5:29:16 PM  
2 votes:

Birnone: I'm optimistic about the reduction in prejudice in future generations because information flows so freely now.


...you say during a boom in online recruiting by white supremacist groups.
 
GoldSpider
2020-09-23 5:23:54 PM  
2 votes:
Oh, this mental masturbation again?  How long have people been waiting for the old segregation-era racists to die off, ushering in permanent Democratic Party victory?
 
Unobtanium [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2020-09-23 5:19:50 PM  
2 votes:
This is why the have fealty to Trump. They need their "originalist" judges in the courts. Some of them have been pissed off that the 1960s Civil Rights laws were upheld by the SCOTUS.
 
Tyrone Slothrop
2020-09-23 5:19:17 PM  
2 votes:

BMFPitt: LordJiro: And funnily enough, Republicans have only won* the popular vote once since then. Even their Congresscritters represent a significant minority of Americans.

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It means the system is inherently broken, but will not be fixed, because the people that would be responsible for fixing it benefit from its brokenness.
 
Snarcoleptic_Hoosier
2020-09-24 2:33:43 AM  
1 vote:

Boondock3806: monsatano: austerity101: raerae1980: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: raerae1980: it really all hinges on which party gets more turnout.

Which party gets turn out AND where they turn out.  An extra 50,000 Democrats turning out in CA is different than an extra 50,000 turning out in PA.

For real, Dude.  Hubby got discouraged the other day and started talking about voting 3rd party and i tried to talk him out of it.   But he's more Gen-X than me, and wasn't budgen.  His apathy was showing.   This was before RBG's death, though.

What do you think it would take to get him to vote for Biden?

I would suggest blowjobs. Lots of blowjobs.

/works on me

No amount of blowjobs could get me to even lie to a Tinder hookup about voting for trump.


I don't know. I'm a principled moderate who is still uncommitted. I'd take some direct lobbying by the slutty caucus.

My voting coalition is the "desprasexuals". We're mostly straight but we take what we can get.
 
ReaverZ
2020-09-24 1:42:24 AM  
1 vote:

ReaverZ: Unobtanium: This is why the have fealty to Trump. They need their "originalist" judges in the courts. Some of them have been pissed off that the 1960s Civil Rights laws were upheld by the SCOTUS.

Some are pissed others got the vote.


counted as whole people.

/ need more sleep
 
ImmutableTenderloin
2020-09-23 5:36:55 PM  
1 vote:
OUTRAGE!!!!

Oh wait, an article that has rational, grounded, talking points.
 
transporter_ii
2020-09-23 5:18:23 PM  
1 vote:

BMFPitt: People have been confidently declaring this since at least GW Bush's first term.


It is happening, just not as fast as some of us would like. A lot of the assholes we all hate now, what is fixing to happen to them, they can't buy their way out of this time (at least not yet). They are all at the end of their lives.

Not to mention, the current administration is going out of its way to kill old people.

Pretty much can't see it improving for the GOP, either. Unless just getting old makes everyone an asshole. Not really seeing that. But it could be, I guess.
 
raerae1980 [TotalFark]
2020-09-23 5:10:26 PM  
1 vote:

austerity101: What do you think it would take to get him to vote for Biden?


Well, again, this was Pre-dead RBG.  I'm hoping this is it.
 
Nadie_AZ [TotalFark]
2020-09-23 4:47:44 PM  
1 vote:

raerae1980: I guess this makes me feel better....but it really all hinges on which party gets more turnout.  I hate that old people vote so reliably.


Tracy Chapman - Talkin' About A Revolution (Official Music Video)
Youtube Xv8FBjo1Y8I
 
cretinbob [TotalFark] [OhFark]
2020-09-23 4:35:29 PM  
1 vote:
Because they are older than dirt?
 
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