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2020-09-23 11:56:12 AM  
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2020-09-23 11:56:12 AM  
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2020-09-23 11:56:34 AM  
My boss (or rather his boss) gave the go-ahead for all of us to leave and work from home.
 
2020-09-23 11:56:42 AM  
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2020-09-23 11:56:48 AM  
They'd rather have their city burned to the ground than one of theirs go to jail for a crime they committed.
 
2020-09-23 11:57:00 AM  
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2020-09-23 11:57:08 AM  
I would like to think this is going to turn out well,..... but I don't think it will.

/stay safe everyone
 
2020-09-23 11:57:25 AM  
Welp, goodbye Louisville.
 
2020-09-23 11:58:02 AM  

Dimensio: My boss (or rather his boss) gave the go-ahead for all of us to leave and work from home.


I like your bosses. Smart people.
 
2020-09-23 11:58:11 AM  
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2020-09-23 11:58:18 AM  
Stay safe Louisville Farkers!
 
2020-09-23 12:00:16 PM  

Dimensio: My boss (or rather his boss) gave the go-ahead for all of us to leave and work from home.


You have good bosses.
 
2020-09-23 12:01:31 PM  
Just a reminder for the "alternative facts" brigade:

Yes, burning down shiat in protest is wrong. Police killing an innocent person and lying about it is MORE WRONG.
 
2020-09-23 12:01:43 PM  
Look - maybe my logic is off - but in a country that has a second amendment and where people have the right to arm and protect themselves, I don't see how we can allow "no-knock" warrants to be served excepting with an understanding that those who choose to do so will do so at their own risk, not be indemnified against the consequences.
These guys broke into an innocent citizen's home, unannounced and with guns out - and people got shot.
That can't be on anybody but them. If it is, then your precious Second Amendment means nothing, and your right to bear arms can be cancelled by any trigger happy nimrod with a badge.
And if the authorities aren't willing to accept that level of responsibility, they need to stop issuing no knock warrants.
 
2020-09-23 12:02:02 PM  
Its high times for people who invested in lighter fluid.
 
2020-09-23 12:02:03 PM  
I fully expect this to be treated like sports.
There will be riots if justice fails and they skirt off without punishement.
There will be riots in exultation if justice prevails.
 
2020-09-23 12:02:05 PM  
Send lawyers, guns and money.  The shiat has hit the fan.
 
2020-09-23 12:02:35 PM  
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2020-09-23 12:02:47 PM  
RIP Louisville
 
2020-09-23 12:02:50 PM  
CSB. Before the second Rodney King related verdict, LA expected the same crisis.   Everyone and business reviewed and modified its earthquake protocols, and checked supplies.

However, in the days and nights leading up, to go out to eat or to Santa Monica pier, everyone was extra friendly, courteous,  and nice to each other.  All were truly enjoying peace and the company of other people, knowing that what could change and last for a long time.

It was a time of All Wagand No Bark.
 
2020-09-23 12:03:01 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: They'd rather have their city burned to the ground than one of theirs go to jail for a crime they committed.


They are preparing for a riot because no matter what is announced, there are people who will use it as an excuse to riot.
 
2020-09-23 12:03:02 PM  
Whats the over-under on number of militia members heading towards or in Louisville right now? How about how being allowed to stand next to the DA during this announcement?
 
2020-09-23 12:03:30 PM  

Dimensio: My boss (or rather his boss) gave the go-ahead for all of us to leave and work from home.


If you can do your work from home, why are you all in the office?
 
2020-09-23 12:04:44 PM  

Oreminer: I fully expect this to be treated like sports.
There will be riots if justice fails and they skirt off without punishement.
There will be riots in exultation if justice prevails.


I expect that there will be riots by either losing side in this, and this is not even a trial, this is just to say whether or not there will even be a trial, if they do announce charges and then they are exonerated.. think Rodney King 2.0
 
2020-09-23 12:04:58 PM  
It's Kentucky, Jake. Let it go.
 
2020-09-23 12:05:23 PM  

dracos31: Just a reminder for the "alternative facts" brigade:

Yes, burning down shiat in protest is wrong. Police killing an innocent person and lying about it is MORE WRONG.


Anyway - a lawful society can only be based on a social contract - and there have to be two parties to a contract, and provisions and incentives to observe said contact.
The state cannot ignore it's side of the contract and expect the people to observe theirs - that isn't human nature.
 
2020-09-23 12:05:26 PM  
Over 20 shots fired into her home.

Eight shots hitting her while she slept.

No justice = No Peace.
 
2020-09-23 12:05:29 PM  

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Riots or the ruling?
 
2020-09-23 12:05:29 PM  
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2020-09-23 12:05:33 PM  

WastrelWay: cameroncrazy1984: They'd rather have their city burned to the ground than one of theirs go to jail for a crime they committed.

They are preparing for a riot because no matter what is announced, there are people who will use it as an excuse to riot.


Thats not true. What, exactly, are you implying? Nevermind, I think we both know.
 
2020-09-23 12:06:08 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Dimensio: My boss (or rather his boss) gave the go-ahead for all of us to leave and work from home.

I like your bosses. Smart people.


Not really, if they have the ability to work from home they shouldn't have been in the office to start with. I've set foot in the office twice since March 15th and that was because I needed to use physical QA hardware in a way that couldn't be done remotely. If your job doesn't require physically being in a particular place then you shouldn't be in a shared indoor space.
 
2020-09-23 12:07:08 PM  

Znuh: Over 20 shots fired into her home.

Eight shots hitting her while she slept.

No justice = No Peace.


And no farking body cam footage, because they didn't want any evidence of what they did...
 
2020-09-23 12:07:14 PM  

Someone Else's Alt: Dimensio: My boss (or rather his boss) gave the go-ahead for all of us to leave and work from home.

If you can do your work from home, why are you all in the office?


My boss's boss insisted we all return to the office. Of course, he just bought a house 1,600 miles away in Florida where he's moving to so he can stay remote. I go into the office and shut my mouth so I can stay employed during a world wide pandemic.
 
2020-09-23 12:07:14 PM  
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2020-09-23 12:07:26 PM  
Why would the IL National Guard be on stand by for a possible incident in Kentucky?
 
2020-09-23 12:07:35 PM  

jso2897: Look - maybe my logic is off - but in a country that has a second amendment and where people have the right to arm and protect themselves, I don't see how we can allow "no-knock" warrants to be served excepting with an understanding that those who choose to do so will do so at their own risk, not be indemnified against the consequences.
These guys broke into an innocent citizen's home, unannounced and with guns out - and people got shot.
That can't be on anybody but them. If it is, then your precious Second Amendment means nothing, and your right to bear arms can be cancelled by any trigger happy nimrod with a badge.
And if the authorities aren't willing to accept that level of responsibility, they need to stop issuing no knock warrants.


Once upon a time no knock warrants were rare and only issued when police had hard evidence that they were about to walk into a place with 1. Known bad guys 2. Known bad guys with guns that are likely to shoot at cops 3. Long delays at the door might allow bad guys to destroy evidence.

It did not take long for police departments to start talking judges into issuing no knock warrants anytime cops wanted them.
 
2020-09-23 12:07:55 PM  
Keep in mind that the prosecutor (who works with and for the police) is the only one presenting evidence to the grand jury.  The grand jury can only consider what the prosecutor says and what the witnesses that the prosecutor calls say.  And those witnesses are confined to only answering the questions asked.  With that in mind, someone leaked to me a few portions of the transcript of the grand jury proceedings, which are always closed:

PROSECUTOR:  Officer *****, please tell us about your daring and heroic raid on the den of criminal activity known as Breona Taylor's drug den?

OFFICER *****:  Well, the first thing we noticed was the pile of dead bodies that were surrounding the front door.  Their eyes had been carved out.  And they were all naked.  What was interesting to us was "WE WILL KILL ALL COPS" was written in pure colombian cocaine on their skin.

PROSECUTOR:  And what happened after you nobly and bravely entered this wretched hive of scum and villainy?

OFFICER *****:  I'll never forget this, the decedent, Ms. Taylor, yes she was on her bed.  BUT, she was levitating in the air like one of those demons or ghosts in a movie.  And in each hand she was carrying two rocket propelled grenades.  As her head started twisting around in a full circle, we could hear an otherworldly voice saying ALL COPS ARE *******."

* * * *

PROSECUTOR:  Now, were you wearing body cams at the time.

OFFICER *****:  Yes, but the demonic interference from the residents of the drug den caused all of them to not work.  Damndest thing I ever saw.

* * * *
PROSECUTOR:  That all sounds very traumatic, for you and the accused officers.

OFFICER *****:  Yes, it was, it was terrible for all of us.  I could use a hug.

[Prosecutor hugs Officer *****]

PROSECUTOR:  And please, I urge every single member of this fearless, American grand jury to come down and give a hug to poor Officer *****.


So yeah, I wonder how it's going to go.
 
2020-09-23 12:08:18 PM  

spacechecker: Whats the over-under on number of militia members heading towards or in Louisville right now? How about how being allowed to stand next to the DA during this announcement?


I wonder if NFAC will show up, too.
 
2020-09-23 12:08:24 PM  
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2020-09-23 12:08:28 PM  
ruling expected at 1:30 ET

OK, here's the plan.

1. Drive to Owensboro, quick as you can.

2, At about 12:45, start driving back to Louisville.

3. Get to Louisville about 3:00. 1:30 never happens.
 
2020-09-23 12:08:29 PM  

dothemath: Its high times for people who invested in lighter fluid.


I'm going long on MolotovCocktailCo and Amalgamated Wire Hangers
 
2020-09-23 12:08:31 PM  

dothemath: Its high times for people who invested in lighter fluid.


I just purchased a container of genuine Zippo lighter fluid for my permanent match. Glad I got in before the rush.
 
2020-09-23 12:09:03 PM  

abbarach: Znuh: Over 20 shots fired into her home.

Eight shots hitting her while she slept.

No justice = No Peace.

And no farking body cam footage, because they didn't want any evidence of what they did...


No, there was body cam footage.  They just don't want to admit it exists (2 of the 3 officers had cams, despite the claim that nobody did.  How do we know?  One was photographed after wearing his, and the other was photographed with his camera's mount on, but the camera removed.)
 
2020-09-23 12:09:13 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: They'd rather have their city burned to the ground than one of theirs go to jail for a crime they committed.


Probably. To them it will "prove them right" somehow, like, "See? Everyone is a criminal! We are justified in being so reckless and violent!"

Hopefully justice will be done, but history has shown us that is rarely the case when it comes to holding police accountable.

I don't see good things ahead.
 
2020-09-23 12:09:57 PM  

MBooda: ruling expected at 1:30 ET

OK, here's the plan.

1. Drive to Owensboro, quick as you can.

2, At about 12:45, start driving back to Louisville.

3. Get to Louisville about 3:00. 1:30 never happens.


But wouldn't you need a reason to go to Owensboro?
 
2020-09-23 12:10:12 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: They'd rather have their city burned to the ground than one of theirs go to jail for a crime they committed.


Yup.
The sad thing is the focus is only on the cops were serving the warrant.
The criminals that would be easiest to convict would be the ones that falsified documents and committed perjury to get a bad warrant issued for their own ulterior agenda.
 
2020-09-23 12:10:21 PM  

dracos31: Just a reminder for the "alternative facts" brigade:

Yes, burning down shiat in protest is wrong. Police killing an innocent person and lying about it is MORE WRONG.


And also, getting a civil settlement is NOT the same as getting justice in a court of law.
 
2020-09-23 12:11:53 PM  
There will be no charges brought against the officers, because as we already know when it's one person at fault they get the blame, but when it's multiple people at fault there is no blame (or blame bureaucracy).

History doesn't always repeat itself, but it sure as hell likes to rhyme.
 
2020-09-23 12:12:54 PM  
My guess is at the most Hankinson gets a Wanton Endangerment charge.  Everyone else skates.
 
2020-09-23 12:13:31 PM  
You don't shut down buildings and government facilities unless you know that you're anticipating the result. They did that in Ferguson back in 2014.

Besides, they know that the only thing that's going to happen is that a couple of buildings get set on fire. It ain't like government officials are scared.
 
2020-09-23 12:13:35 PM  

Texas Gabe: dracos31: Just a reminder for the "alternative facts" brigade:

Yes, burning down shiat in protest is wrong. Police killing an innocent person and lying about it is MORE WRONG.

And also, getting a civil settlement is NOT the same as getting justice in a court of law.


Oh, they will announce that this is going to trial. Then, it will take 18 months to get to trial. It'll be old news but then.
 
2020-09-23 12:15:00 PM  
"The good guys are demonized and the criminals are canonized."
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"Whoops, wrong house!"
 
2020-09-23 12:15:17 PM  
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2020-09-23 12:15:18 PM  

physt: Someone Else's Alt: Dimensio: My boss (or rather his boss) gave the go-ahead for all of us to leave and work from home.

If you can do your work from home, why are you all in the office?

My boss's boss insisted we all return to the office. Of course, he just bought a house 1,600 miles away in Florida where he's moving to so he can stay remote. I go into the office and shut my mouth so I can stay employed during a world wide pandemic.


If I were you and caught covid, I am pretty sure I would own your bosses new house in Florida. That is until McTurtle manages to pass legislation making businesses immune to hazardous workplace liability.

Be careful and hope you keep both your job and your health.
 
2020-09-23 12:15:21 PM  
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2020-09-23 12:15:49 PM  

dracos31: Just a reminder for the "alternative facts" brigade:

Yes, burning down shiat in protest is wrong. Police killing an innocent person and lying about it is MORE WRONG.


Right or wrong, if "Protestors" want to send a clear message they should be burning down police assets and municipal shiat and not their local businesses and neighbors' property.
 
2020-09-23 12:16:01 PM  

spacechecker: WastrelWay: cameroncrazy1984: They'd rather have their city burned to the ground than one of theirs go to jail for a crime they committed.

They are preparing for a riot because no matter what is announced, there are people who will use it as an excuse to riot.

Thats not true. What, exactly, are you implying? Nevermind, I think we both know.


They're most likely basing that on watching everything going on the last few years.

I will be very surprised if there are no riots after the decision is announced.
 
2020-09-23 12:16:27 PM  
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2020-09-23 12:18:43 PM  
This will not be contained to only Louisville by this weekend if it goes as poorly as I fear it will go...
 
2020-09-23 12:18:43 PM  

Mrtraveler01: MBooda: ruling expected at 1:30 ET

OK, here's the plan.

1. Drive to Owensboro, quick as you can.

2, At about 12:45, start driving back to Louisville.

3. Get to Louisville about 3:00. 1:30 never happens.

But wouldn't you need a reason to go to Owensboro?


I was going to say "to get out of Louisville," but yeah, out of the frying pan...
 
2020-09-23 12:19:15 PM  

Keyser_Soze_Death: dracos31: Just a reminder for the "alternative facts" brigade:

Yes, burning down shiat in protest is wrong. Police killing an innocent person and lying about it is MORE WRONG.

Right or wrong, if "Protestors" want to send a clear message they should be burning down police assets and municipal shiat and not their local businesses and neighbors' property.


If I remember right, they mostly burned down police stations in Minneapolis, and federal buildings in Portland. So, that's what they ARE doing
 
2020-09-23 12:20:03 PM  

Someone Else's Alt: physt: Someone Else's Alt: Dimensio: My boss (or rather his boss) gave the go-ahead for all of us to leave and work from home.

If you can do your work from home, why are you all in the office?

My boss's boss insisted we all return to the office. Of course, he just bought a house 1,600 miles away in Florida where he's moving to so he can stay remote. I go into the office and shut my mouth so I can stay employed during a world wide pandemic.

If I were you and caught covid, I am pretty sure I would own your bosses new house in Florida. That is until McTurtle manages to pass legislation making businesses immune to hazardous workplace liability.

Be careful and hope you keep both your job and your health.


I live in one of those states where the governor already made businesses immune if you get COVID. So I am getting a kick... ect ect
 
2020-09-23 12:20:06 PM  
Dream scenario:
Cops are indicted, MAGAts and Thin Blue Liners riot, LEOs and Riot Squad refuse to stop them, Kentucky gets declared "Anarchy Zone" and loses Fed funding, Yertle shiats his shell.
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But I can still dream
 
2020-09-23 12:20:07 PM  

Dimensio: My boss (or rather his boss) gave the go-ahead for all of us to leave and work from home.


Bummer.  Here in Georgia Kemp's exec orders on Covid state "Implement teleworking for all possible Workers."  It is a misdemeanor to violate executive orders.

/Not that I haven't worked remote for years anyhow
//And the bosses saw a huge increase in productivity and they are now fans
 
2020-09-23 12:20:49 PM  
Just wanna speak my peace about this...

Until they release the bodycam footage, the girl is innocent until proven guilty. And by that, I mean, the police officers murdered her and should be charged as such.

If the cops are innocent, release the bodycam footage. If they announced themselves, it will be in that video.

Otherwise, they were defending their home from what could ONLY be perceived by any gun-owning American as a home invasion.

If the cops murdered her and they're not charged... well, while I haven't been in support of this in the past, BURN THAT MOTHER farkER DOWN.
 
2020-09-23 12:21:06 PM  
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This won't end well.
 
2020-09-23 12:21:38 PM  

dothemath: Its high times for people who invested in lighter fluid.


I bought ammunition recently. One shipment is out for delivery today.

I was not prompted by the Breonna Taylor case. I was just low. And also concerned about how some of Trump's more extreme supporters have been behaving.
 
2020-09-23 12:22:06 PM  
If the cops gets indicted, will the rioters grab paint cans and mortar and start painting accent walls and shiat?

I just want this whole protest thing to work in both directions.
 
2020-09-23 12:22:38 PM  
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2020-09-23 12:22:57 PM  

spacechecker: Whats the over-under on number of militia members heading towards or in Louisville right now? How about how being allowed to stand next to the DA during this announcement?


Louisville antifa has its own militia.

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2020-09-23 12:23:19 PM  
So chief has a body cam, but others don't?
 
2020-09-23 12:23:24 PM  

dracos31: Just a reminder for the "alternative facts" brigade:

Yes, burning down shiat in protest is wrong. Police killing an innocent person and lying about it is MORE WRONG.


To paraphrase somebody else, if you're more worried about property damage than about murdering unarmed civilians...
 
2020-09-23 12:23:38 PM  

Someone Else's Alt: Dimensio: My boss (or rather his boss) gave the go-ahead for all of us to leave and work from home.

If you can do your work from home, why are you all in the office?


My job includes technical support which sometimes necessitates direct contact with computers.
 
2020-09-23 12:23:57 PM  

Someone Else's Alt: Dimensio: My boss (or rather his boss) gave the go-ahead for all of us to leave and work from home.

If you can do your work from home, why are you all in the office?


Off-topic answer to your rhetorical question: it's because paychecks have long been based on time rather than productivity, and people can't adjust to the idea that someone not at their desk for 40 hours yet getting all of their work done is more valuable as someone who does the same work and yanks it for 6 hours a day to keep up appearances. Also, it's a control thing: if I have to be there, so do you.

The scary thing is that when they finally realize that they'll outsource the jobs and cut employees because they're overpaid, doing 20 hours of work but getting paid for 40. Management simply can't divorce productivity from attendance.

On topic: I hope justice is served. Good luck, everybody.
 
2020-09-23 12:24:08 PM  

Someone Else's Alt: It did not take long for police departments to start talking judges into issuing no knock warrants anytime cops wanted them.


If cops understood that the execute such warrants at their own risk, they would be far less likely to request them, in my view.
 
2020-09-23 12:24:22 PM  
This shiat is exhausting. I don't live there so I really don't care what happens to the city. I'll just eat my popcorn and laugh at the antics. It will provide fodder for some great memes!
 
2020-09-23 12:24:30 PM  
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2020-09-23 12:24:50 PM  

robodog: NewportBarGuy: Dimensio: My boss (or rather his boss) gave the go-ahead for all of us to leave and work from home.

I like your bosses. Smart people.

Not really, if they have the ability to work from home they shouldn't have been in the office to start with. I've set foot in the office twice since March 15th and that was because I needed to use physical QA hardware in a way that couldn't be done remotely. If your job doesn't require physically being in a particular place then you shouldn't be in a shared indoor space.


I am one of the few people needed in the office. Most staff is working from home.
 
2020-09-23 12:24:53 PM  

Dimensio: spacechecker: Whats the over-under on number of militia members heading towards or in Louisville right now? How about how being allowed to stand next to the DA during this announcement?

Louisville antifa has its own militia.

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Lol ..
 
2020-09-23 12:25:24 PM  

silverblues: Someone Else's Alt: physt: Someone Else's Alt: Dimensio: My boss (or rather his boss) gave the go-ahead for all of us to leave and work from home.

If you can do your work from home, why are you all in the office?

My boss's boss insisted we all return to the office. Of course, he just bought a house 1,600 miles away in Florida where he's moving to so he can stay remote. I go into the office and shut my mouth so I can stay employed during a world wide pandemic.

If I were you and caught covid, I am pretty sure I would own your bosses new house in Florida. That is until McTurtle manages to pass legislation making businesses immune to hazardous workplace liability.

Be careful and hope you keep both your job and your health.

I live in one of those states where the governor already made businesses immune if you get COVID. So I am getting a kick... ect ect


If my boss forced me to come into a covid den I would show up like this.
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2020-09-23 12:26:16 PM  

bamph: My guess is at the most Hankinson gets a Wanton Endangerment charge.  Everyone else skates.


Hankinson needs something. But that charge is small potatoes.
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Where clear crimes were committed is in the people who lied and falsified evidence to obtain a bogus warrant for personal gain.
That is what put two sets of people in that situation, both in the position of thinking they were defending themselves from each other.
Taylors boyfriend was entirely within his rights, and did nothing illegal, but lawyers will argue that neither did the other cops once they were fired upon.
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The real criminal is who set up all parties for that in the first place.
They should be charged with Felony Murder of Taylor -AND- the shooting of the wounded cop.
 
2020-09-23 12:26:25 PM  
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2020-09-23 12:26:35 PM  

PunGent: dracos31: Just a reminder for the "alternative facts" brigade:

Yes, burning down shiat in protest is wrong. Police killing an innocent person and lying about it is MORE WRONG.

To paraphrase somebody else, if you're more worried about property damage than about murdering unarmed civilians...


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2020-09-23 12:26:56 PM  
if they let the cops off it's gonna make the Rodney King Riots look tame and probably not just in Louisville.   Situation is a massive powder keg and has been for decades and not much of anything has been done to defuse , rather it seems like the cops delight in throwing extra gunpowder on the pile.
 
2020-09-23 12:27:50 PM  

Mrtraveler01: MBooda: ruling expected at 1:30 ET

OK, here's the plan.

1. Drive to Owensboro, quick as you can.

2, At about 12:45, start driving back to Louisville.

3. Get to Louisville about 3:00. 1:30 never happens.

But wouldn't you need a reason to go to Owensboro?


Delicious BBQ is a good reason
 
2020-09-23 12:28:41 PM  

Someone Else's Alt: physt: Someone Else's Alt: Dimensio: My boss (or rather his boss) gave the go-ahead for all of us to leave and work from home.

If you can do your work from home, why are you all in the office?

My boss's boss insisted we all return to the office. Of course, he just bought a house 1,600 miles away in Florida where he's moving to so he can stay remote. I go into the office and shut my mouth so I can stay employed during a world wide pandemic.

If I were you and caught covid, I am pretty sure I would own your bosses new house in Florida.


Obviously, YANAL.

Do you really think you can prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you caught Covid at a specific place and time?
 
2020-09-23 12:28:46 PM  

bfh0417: Texas Gabe: dracos31: Just a reminder for the "alternative facts" brigade:

Yes, burning down shiat in protest is wrong. Police killing an innocent person and lying about it is MORE WRONG.

And also, getting a civil settlement is NOT the same as getting justice in a court of law.

Oh, they will announce that this is going to trial. Then, it will take 18 months to get to trial. It'll be old news but then.


You people will forget, not us.
 
2020-09-23 12:29:12 PM  

Dimensio: dothemath: Its high times for people who invested in lighter fluid.

I bought ammunition recently. One shipment is out for delivery today.

I was not prompted by the Breonna Taylor case. I was just low. And also concerned about how some of Trump's more extreme supporters have been behaving.


If it makes you feel any better, and it probably won't, I'm a well-stocked Trump supporter. But I'll be god damned if I'm going to let anyone attack anyone else because they disagree with their political views. Even if that means siding with a group of people I would generally make fun of online.
 
2020-09-23 12:30:10 PM  

Texas Gabe: bfh0417: Texas Gabe: dracos31: Just a reminder for the "alternative facts" brigade:

Yes, burning down shiat in protest is wrong. Police killing an innocent person and lying about it is MORE WRONG.

And also, getting a civil settlement is NOT the same as getting justice in a court of law.

Oh, they will announce that this is going to trial. Then, it will take 18 months to get to trial. It'll be old news but then.

You people will forget, not us.


You people? Lol
 
2020-09-23 12:30:13 PM  
They're gonna let them off....

This could have been any of us.  I keep a 12ga shotgun by the bed, I'd be dead based on the facts in this fiasco........
 
2020-09-23 12:30:15 PM  
So - you're a fat, scared little man with two pistols in his hands he couldn't hit anything with even if he did have the guts to shoot at anything?
Kind of self deprecating way to describe yourself.
 
2020-09-23 12:30:16 PM  
grimlock1972: if they let the cops off it's gonna make the Rodney King Riots look tame and probably not just in Louisville.   Situation is a massive powder keg and has been for decades and not much of anything has been done to defuse , rather it seems like the cops delight in throwing extra gunpowder  bodieson the pile.

FTFY
 
2020-09-23 12:31:08 PM  
Well, here we go again.

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2020-09-23 12:31:14 PM  

Eli WhiskeyDik: Why would the IL National Guard be on stand by for a possible incident in Kentucky?


They're afraid things might happen in Chicago
 
2020-09-23 12:31:47 PM  
I just thought of something. What if they release the bodycam footage and it's actually much worse than what we've been told, and that's why the lockdown?
 
2020-09-23 12:31:55 PM  
Time for the righteous to burn the city.
 
2020-09-23 12:32:20 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Someone Else's Alt: physt: Someone Else's Alt: Dimensio: My boss (or rather his boss) gave the go-ahead for all of us to leave and work from home.

If you can do your work from home, why are you all in the office?

My boss's boss insisted we all return to the office. Of course, he just bought a house 1,600 miles away in Florida where he's moving to so he can stay remote. I go into the office and shut my mouth so I can stay employed during a world wide pandemic.

If I were you and caught covid, I am pretty sure I would own your bosses new house in Florida.

Obviously, YANAL.

Do you really think you can prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you caught Covid at a specific place and time?


Most civil lawsuits follow the weaker "preponderance of the evidence" standard, which only requires a greater than 50% chance.
 
2020-09-23 12:32:36 PM  

SpaceMonkey-66: They're gonna let them off....

This could have been any of us.  I keep a 12ga shotgun by the bed, I'd be dead based on the facts in this fiasco........


The only thing that makes me think differently is the mass email that one of the shooters sent out to the entire department, was it yesterday?

He may well be the sacrificial lamb, but I doubt it.
 
2020-09-23 12:32:45 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: I just thought of something. What if they release the bodycam footage and it's actually much worse than what we've been told, and that's why the lockdown?


If it's bad, there is no way they would release it. They would just claim the camera "wasn't working".
 
2020-09-23 12:32:50 PM  
You think ill be able to see the fires from across the Ohio River?
 
2020-09-23 12:32:56 PM  
Almost as if they already know what is going to happen
 
2020-09-23 12:33:11 PM  
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2020-09-23 12:33:31 PM  

bfh0417: Dimensio: spacechecker: Whats the over-under on number of militia members heading towards or in Louisville right now? How about how being allowed to stand next to the DA during this announcement?

Louisville antifa has its own militia.

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Lol ..


You scoff, but noted expert Andy Ngô cited her as proof that antifa protesters are not actually nonviolent.
No word on who she actually threatened or shot, though.
 
2020-09-23 12:34:04 PM  

Dryad: bamph: My guess is at the most Hankinson gets a Wanton Endangerment charge.  Everyone else skates.

Hankinson needs something. But that charge is small potatoes.
-
Where clear crimes were committed is in the people who lied and falsified evidence to obtain a bogus warrant for personal gain.
That is what put two sets of people in that situation, both in the position of thinking they were defending themselves from each other.
Taylors boyfriend was entirely within his rights, and did nothing illegal, but lawyers will argue that neither did the other cops once they were fired upon.
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The real criminal is who set up all parties for that in the first place.
They should be charged with Felony Murder of Taylor -AND- the shooting of the wounded cop.


Yet if you or I drive a getaway car for a bank robber (and stay in the car the WHOLE TIME), we get charged with murder if the robber kills someone in the bank...
 
2020-09-23 12:34:51 PM  

zinny: Time for the righteous to burn the city.


Purify it?
 
2020-09-23 12:35:30 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Someone Else's Alt: physt: Someone Else's Alt: Dimensio: My boss (or rather his boss) gave the go-ahead for all of us to leave and work from home.

If you can do your work from home, why are you all in the office?

My boss's boss insisted we all return to the office. Of course, he just bought a house 1,600 miles away in Florida where he's moving to so he can stay remote. I go into the office and shut my mouth so I can stay employed during a world wide pandemic.

If I were you and caught covid, I am pretty sure I would own your bosses new house in Florida.

Obviously, YANAL.

Do you really think you can prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you caught Covid at a specific place and time?


How do you prove that your blown out shoulder was a "work related injury"?

Track an Tracing. If I come down with covid and have participated in any activity that puts me in "contact" with other people for the prior 2 weeks, but are forced to work in enclosed space with other people and one of those other people in the work place turn up covid positive, especially if they are a anti-masker that has FB photos of them and six of their friends huddled together not wearing masks and drinking the weekend before, yeah I think I can make a good case.
 
2020-09-23 12:35:48 PM  

bfh0417: Texas Gabe: bfh0417: Texas Gabe: dracos31: Just a reminder for the "alternative facts" brigade:

Yes, burning down shiat in protest is wrong. Police killing an innocent person and lying about it is MORE WRONG.

And also, getting a civil settlement is NOT the same as getting justice in a court of law.

Oh, they will announce that this is going to trial. Then, it will take 18 months to get to trial. It'll be old news but then.

You people will forget, not us.

You people? Lol


Yes, you people. Anti-science, minority-hating, Nazi-appeasing, veteran-despising Trumpers.

You. People.
 
2020-09-23 12:36:11 PM  
I'm guessing the fact that their already shutting down the city is basically a spoiler as to what the ruling will be.
 
2020-09-23 12:36:24 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: They'd rather have their city burned to the ground than one of theirs go to jail for a crime they committed.


Well, yeah, that's how all psychopaths think.  They're the only people in the world that matters - everyone else are just props, or in the case of the police, cardboard targets.
 
2020-09-23 12:37:29 PM  

abhorrent1: I'm guessing the fact that their already shutting down the city is basically a spoiler as to what the ruling will be.


I'm already expecting the cops to be innocent.
 
2020-09-23 12:37:52 PM  

grimlock1972: if they let the cops off it's gonna make the Rodney King Riots look tame and probably not just in Louisville.   Situation is a massive powder keg and has been for decades and not much of anything has been done to defuse , rather it seems like the cops delight in throwing extra gunpowder on the pile.


Oh, something will be done.
The cops will use it as just another justification for shooting more black people.
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Why? Were you expecting a different response?
 
2020-09-23 12:38:44 PM  
The fact people will believe shooting an innocent American while she slept is justified but condemn those who've rightfully
 
2020-09-23 12:39:08 PM  

Mrtraveler01: abhorrent1: I'm guessing the fact that their already shutting down the city is basically a spoiler as to what the ruling will be.

I'm already expecting the cops to be innocent.


They can be "not guilty" but they sure as hell aren't innocent
 
2020-09-23 12:39:17 PM  

JAGChem82: You don't shut down buildings and government facilities unless you know that you're anticipating the result. They did that in Ferguson back in 2014.


Back then we didn't have a plague of armed white morons invading government buildings because they don't get their way.
 
2020-09-23 12:40:10 PM  

NephilimNexus: cameroncrazy1984: They'd rather have their city burned to the ground than one of theirs go to jail for a crime they committed.

Well, yeah, that's how all psychopaths think.  They're the only people in the world that matters - everyone else are just props, or in the case of the police, cardboard targets.


It has more to do with admitting that current police polices, as in pretty much every department in America, are farked up and have to be changed as well as admitting that every time they have let a cop walk in the past for the same kind of incident they were wrong and that cop should have been charged with a crime.

They never just look at the specific incident, they always weigh it politically against all prior and future decisions they will have to make about culpability. And that is why they almost always get it wrong.
 
2020-09-23 12:40:48 PM  

Oreminer: I fully expect this to be treated like sports.
There will be riots if justice fails and they skirt off without punishement.
There will be riots in exultation if justice prevails.


Either way, Oakland burns.
 
2020-09-23 12:42:00 PM  

Dybbuk Schmybbuk: Oreminer: I fully expect this to be treated like sports.
There will be riots if justice fails and they skirt off without punishement.
There will be riots in exultation if justice prevails.

Either way, Oakland burns.


Shiat, I'm in Oakland right now.

Heading to Alameda. I will check in on the nightmare in a bit.

Good luck everyone.
 
2020-09-23 12:42:56 PM  
It's worth pointing out that none if this would be happening if American Police did not have a pattern of murdering Black Americans without any consequence whatsoever

Cop cars being lit on fire is a symptom of the disease of Police Misconduct targeted against Black Americans

The disease is objectively worse that the symptoms
 
2020-09-23 12:44:08 PM  

abhorrent1: I'm guessing the fact that their already shutting down the city is basically a spoiler as to what the ruling will be.


If they indict them, the racists will riot. If they don't, the racist will still riot, only pretending to be antifa.
 
2020-09-23 12:44:43 PM  
If the city will not hold farked up cops accountable then make it really farking expensive for them every time they let one get away with murder. Money is all they understand, so likely the only way to get through to em.
 
2020-09-23 12:45:50 PM  

Oreminer: I fully expect this to be treated like sports.
There will be riots if justice fails and they skirt off without punishement.
There will be riots in exultation if justice prevails.


If the cops start prepping for violence, then violence there will be.
 
2020-09-23 12:47:17 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Oreminer: I fully expect this to be treated like sports.
There will be riots if justice fails and they skirt off without punishement.
There will be riots in exultation if justice prevails.

If the cops start prepping for violence, then violence there will be.


If you want riots, send in riot cops.
 
2020-09-23 12:52:15 PM  

Dybbuk Schmybbuk: Oreminer: I fully expect this to be treated like sports.
There will be riots if justice fails and they skirt off without punishement.
There will be riots in exultation if justice prevails.

Either way, Oakland burns.


Well it's not like they can riot about the Warriors anymore.

/too soon?
 
2020-09-23 12:52:42 PM  

jso2897: Look - maybe my logic is off - but in a country that has a second amendment and where people have the right to arm and protect themselves, I don't see how we can allow "no-knock" warrants to be served excepting with an understanding that those who choose to do so will do so at their own risk, not be indemnified against the consequences.
These guys broke into an innocent citizen's home, unannounced and with guns out - and people got shot.
That can't be on anybody but them. If it is, then your precious Second Amendment means nothing, and your right to bear arms can be cancelled by any trigger happy nimrod with a badge.
And if the authorities aren't willing to accept that level of responsibility, they need to stop issuing no knock warrants.


The Second Amendment will still have its full effect, as long as the citizenry believes that the police are only executing no-knock warrants on "other people." Whether "other people" means "someone who's not me," or just "people of color," depends on who's having the conversation. But this fits perfectly with the view that upstanding white folks need to have guns.

/disclaimer: I'm white, and I loathe it when POC use the term "white folks," because it's always derogatory. So fark everybody for making me use it here.
 
2020-09-23 12:54:27 PM  

midigod: /disclaimer: I'm white, and I loathe it when POC use the term "white folks," because it's always derogatory. So fark everybody for making me use it here.


Thank god you're here to make this tragic event all about your fragile ego, whitey.
 
2020-09-23 12:56:28 PM  

dracos31: Just a reminder for the "alternative facts" brigade:

Yes, burning down shiat in protest is wrong. Police killing an innocent person and lying about it is MORE WRONG.


That depends on whose violence you're on the receiving end of, doesn't it?
 
2020-09-23 1:00:35 PM  

Eli WhiskeyDik: Why would the IL National Guard be on stand by for a possible incident in Kentucky?


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2020-09-23 1:01:17 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: They'd rather have their city burned to the ground than one of theirs go to jail for a crime they committed.


It's a Grand Jury
 
2020-09-23 1:02:28 PM  
BOO!  Don't take my duplicate thread away!  I'll have to say it here, too!

"I refuse to accept ANY ruling that does not delcare Breonna Taylor INNOCENT!"

also...

"This thread should be a dumpster fire.  To reflect the kind of thing you'd have to do, to get a ruling that goes beyond technicalities and lays the blame at the feet of people actually responsible."
 
2020-09-23 1:04:13 PM  

OhioFark: Eli WhiskeyDik: Why would the IL National Guard be on stand by for a possible incident in Kentucky?

They're afraid things might happen in Chicago


Valid point. I didn't think about that.
 
2020-09-23 1:04:57 PM  

Eli WhiskeyDik: OhioFark: Eli WhiskeyDik: Why would the IL National Guard be on stand by for a possible incident in Kentucky?

They're afraid things might happen in Chicago

Valid point. I didn't think about that.


Things will happen in Chicago no matter which way the verdict goes.  The amplitude is the only thing that will change.
 
2020-09-23 1:05:07 PM  
My guess:

They either don't indict or over-indict to a charge they cannot prove.

I am going with no indictment.
 
2020-09-23 1:05:46 PM  
I wouldn't put it past Barr and McConnell coordinating to create peak outrage to bring in the Unmarked Stormtroopers, including the police spokesperson appearing in blackface and singing Al Jolson while kicking a puppy.
 
2020-09-23 1:05:52 PM  

Oreminer: I fully expect this to be treated like sports.
There will be riots if justice fails and they skirt off without punishement.
There will be riots in exultation if justice prevails.


That's the Detroit way.
 
2020-09-23 1:06:27 PM  
The rioters were going to riot no matter what.  On one end of things, you'll have the Kyle Rittenhouse wannabes out in force looking for any reason reason to pull the trigger.  On the other end, there are the people who won't accept anything less than a long drop with a short stop by sundown for the officers involved.

My prediction is all of the police get tagged with procedural charges stemming from the lies in the warrant application and subsequent reports, with Hankison getting a low-level murder charge.  That way Kentucky can take the moral high ground and proclaim it's seeking justice for Breonna, while at the same time assigning the cases to the most junior and incompetent attorneys who will be guaranteed to fark up the prosecution over the next two years.
 
2020-09-23 1:07:09 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: cameroncrazy1984: They'd rather have their city burned to the ground than one of theirs go to jail for a crime they committed.

It's a Grand Jury


The DA is under no obligation to actually present the evidence in such a way as to obtain an indictment
 
2020-09-23 1:07:40 PM  
The local news is reporting the governor has authorized mobilization of the National Guard.
 
2020-09-23 1:11:08 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: cameroncrazy1984: They'd rather have their city burned to the ground than one of theirs go to jail for a crime they committed.

It's a Grand Jury

The DA is under no obligation to actually present the evidence in such a way as to obtain an indictment


And that's the farkery of all of this.

The grand jury was a noble creation designed to STOP the abuses of state.  But now it's being used to shield abuses of the state.
 
2020-09-23 1:11:34 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: My guess:

They either don't indict or over-indict to a charge they cannot prove.

I am going with no indictment.


I think there's going to be a mixture here. I think one cop will be charged.  No idea which one.  Just a feeling.  I'm guessing that the max they can get is manslaughter though.  Or maybe "Oopsie in the first degree", which seems even more likely.
 
2020-09-23 1:12:01 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Keyser_Soze_Death: dracos31: Just a reminder for the "alternative facts" brigade:

Yes, burning down shiat in protest is wrong. Police killing an innocent person and lying about it is MORE WRONG.

Right or wrong, if "Protestors" want to send a clear message they should be burning down police assets and municipal shiat and not their local businesses and neighbors' property.

If I remember right, they mostly burned down police stations in Minneapolis, and federal buildings in Portland. So, that's what they ARE doing


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2020-09-23 1:12:07 PM  

Geotpf: NotThatGuyAgain: Someone Else's Alt: physt: Someone Else's Alt: Dimensio: My boss (or rather his boss) gave the go-ahead for all of us to leave and work from home.

If you can do your work from home, why are you all in the office?

My boss's boss insisted we all return to the office. Of course, he just bought a house 1,600 miles away in Florida where he's moving to so he can stay remote. I go into the office and shut my mouth so I can stay employed during a world wide pandemic.

If I were you and caught covid, I am pretty sure I would own your bosses new house in Florida.

Obviously, YANAL.

Do you really think you can prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you caught Covid at a specific place and time?

Most civil lawsuits follow the weaker "preponderance of the evidence" standard, which only requires a greater than 50% chance.


It's still a reach.

"Did you go anywhere other than work?  Oh, you went shopping?  You got gas for your car?"

Don't get me wrong, I'd fight tooth and nail not to go into the office right now (besides the fact I worked remote before all this), and if I had to and got Covid I'd be pissed, but I don't see any way to prove it was transmitted at a certain place and time.  It would be easy for the defense lawyer to cast loads of doubt into it, and they'd be right.
 
2020-09-23 1:12:17 PM  

Someone Else's Alt: silverblues: Someone Else's Alt: physt: Someone Else's Alt: Dimensio: My boss (or rather his boss) gave the go-ahead for all of us to leave and work from home.

If you can do your work from home, why are you all in the office?

My boss's boss insisted we all return to the office. Of course, he just bought a house 1,600 miles away in Florida where he's moving to so he can stay remote. I go into the office and shut my mouth so I can stay employed during a world wide pandemic.

If I were you and caught covid, I am pretty sure I would own your bosses new house in Florida. That is until McTurtle manages to pass legislation making businesses immune to hazardous workplace liability.

Be careful and hope you keep both your job and your health.

I live in one of those states where the governor already made businesses immune if you get COVID. So I am getting a kick... ect ect

If my boss forced me to come into a covid den I would show up like this.
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Dressdown day.
 
2020-09-23 1:12:38 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: cameroncrazy1984: They'd rather have their city burned to the ground than one of theirs go to jail for a crime they committed.

It's a Grand Jury

The DA is under no obligation to actually present the evidence in such a way as to obtain an indictment


Yep. Same thing happened with the Michael Brown case in Ferguson.
 
2020-09-23 1:13:08 PM  

Dimensio: robodog: NewportBarGuy: Dimensio: My boss (or rather his boss) gave the go-ahead for all of us to leave and work from home.

I like your bosses. Smart people.

Not really, if they have the ability to work from home they shouldn't have been in the office to start with. I've set foot in the office twice since March 15th and that was because I needed to use physical QA hardware in a way that couldn't be done remotely. If your job doesn't require physically being in a particular place then you shouldn't be in a shared indoor space.

I am one of the few people needed in the office. Most staff is working from home.


I know some front-line "essential" workers that are getting tired of being at work day in and day out while executives and management are at home holding meetings in their PJs and sipping "coffee".
 
2020-09-23 1:14:20 PM  

Someone Else's Alt: NotThatGuyAgain: Someone Else's Alt: physt: Someone Else's Alt: Dimensio: My boss (or rather his boss) gave the go-ahead for all of us to leave and work from home.

If you can do your work from home, why are you all in the office?

My boss's boss insisted we all return to the office. Of course, he just bought a house 1,600 miles away in Florida where he's moving to so he can stay remote. I go into the office and shut my mouth so I can stay employed during a world wide pandemic.

If I were you and caught covid, I am pretty sure I would own your bosses new house in Florida.

Obviously, YANAL.

Do you really think you can prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you caught Covid at a specific place and time?

How do you prove that your blown out shoulder was a "work related injury"?

Track an Tracing. If I come down with covid and have participated in any activity that puts me in "contact" with other people for the prior 2 weeks, but are forced to work in enclosed space with other people and one of those other people in the work place turn up covid positive, especially if they are a anti-masker that has FB photos of them and six of their friends huddled together not wearing masks and drinking the weekend before, yeah I think I can make a good case.


Jesus.

Let's see...a virus that can't be seen with the naked eye versus OW THAT farkING HURT.

Yeah, totally the same thing.  You are either trolling or dumber than a litter box.
 
2020-09-23 1:16:34 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: I just thought of something. What if they release the bodycam footage and it's actually much worse than what we've been told, and that's why the lockdown?


The lockdown is happening because there's an outrage machine that will cause the city to burn down regardless of what the court outcomes are.
People aren't interested in evidence anymore than the lack of it. They don't want to hear a legal argument. Justice is irrelevant. They want to have a jubilee and it does not matter who is at fault. They'll burn down some low income housing or minority owned businesses just as soon as they'll torch a courthouse.  There's no methodology in a social disaster.

The city can't control the ruling and it knows that it might not even matter. So it must presume there will be a riot and make preparations to cut arrest agitators and protect the public as well as the city itself.
That they're already hurting for manpower just means they'll have to be that much more serious about their preparations.
 
2020-09-23 1:17:27 PM  
The YouTube stream from the redlit thread if anyone wants it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wusCD​5​5EPP0
 
2020-09-23 1:18:24 PM  

way south: The lockdown is happening because there's an outrage machine


There's an outrage machine alright and someone is using it for their re-election campaign.
 
2020-09-23 1:19:55 PM  

jso2897: Look - maybe my logic is off - but in a country that has a second amendment and where people have the right to arm and protect themselves, I don't see how we can allow "no-knock" warrants to be served excepting with an understanding that those who choose to do so will do so at their own risk, not be indemnified against the consequences.
These guys broke into an innocent citizen's home, unannounced and with guns out - and people got shot.
That can't be on anybody but them. If it is, then your precious Second Amendment means nothing, and your right to bear arms can be cancelled by any trigger happy nimrod with a badge.
And if the authorities aren't willing to accept that level of responsibility, they need to stop issuing no knock warrants.


I'm with you. A venn diagram of Second amendment fanatics and people who think the cops were right seem to be a perfect circle. Yet this is true infringement on second amendment rights if law enforcement can kill you without consequence after showing up unannounced
 
2020-09-23 1:20:32 PM  

tuxq: I'm a well-stocked Trump supporter


lol
 
2020-09-23 1:20:54 PM  

midigod: jso2897: Look - maybe my logic is off - but in a country that has a second amendment and where people have the right to arm and protect themselves, I don't see how we can allow "no-knock" warrants to be served excepting with an understanding that those who choose to do so will do so at their own risk, not be indemnified against the consequences.
These guys broke into an innocent citizen's home, unannounced and with guns out - and people got shot.
That can't be on anybody but them. If it is, then your precious Second Amendment means nothing, and your right to bear arms can be cancelled by any trigger happy nimrod with a badge.
And if the authorities aren't willing to accept that level of responsibility, they need to stop issuing no knock warrants.

The Second Amendment will still have its full effect, as long as the citizenry believes that the police are only executing no-knock warrants on "other people." Whether "other people" means "someone who's not me," or just "people of color," depends on who's having the conversation. But this fits perfectly with the view that upstanding white folks need to have guns.

/disclaimer: I'm white, and I loathe it when POC use the term "white folks," because it's always derogatory. So fark everybody for making me use it here.


White guy whines about how racist it is when other people point out his bigotry.

/Found the Trump supporter
 
2020-09-23 1:20:58 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Someone Else's Alt: NotThatGuyAgain: Someone Else's Alt: physt: Someone Else's Alt: Dimensio: My boss (or rather his boss) gave the go-ahead for all of us to leave and work from home.

If you can do your work from home, why are you all in the office?

My boss's boss insisted we all return to the office. Of course, he just bought a house 1,600 miles away in Florida where he's moving to so he can stay remote. I go into the office and shut my mouth so I can stay employed during a world wide pandemic.

If I were you and caught covid, I am pretty sure I would own your bosses new house in Florida.

Obviously, YANAL.

Do you really think you can prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you caught Covid at a specific place and time?

How do you prove that your blown out shoulder was a "work related injury"?

Track an Tracing. If I come down with covid and have participated in any activity that puts me in "contact" with other people for the prior 2 weeks, but are forced to work in enclosed space with other people and one of those other people in the work place turn up covid positive, especially if they are a anti-masker that has FB photos of them and six of their friends huddled together not wearing masks and drinking the weekend before, yeah I think I can make a good case.

Jesus.

Let's see...a virus that can't be seen with the naked eye versus OW THAT farkING HURT.

Yeah, totally the same thing.  You are either trolling or dumber than a litter box.


I award him a 90% chance that the covidiot gave him a broken humor.
 
2020-09-23 1:22:20 PM  

way south: They want to have a jubilee and it does not matter who is at fault.


Right-wing typing detected.
 
2020-09-23 1:22:22 PM  

Lindseys Lil Ladybugs: tuxq: I'm a well-stocked Trump supporter

lol


It's funny because he has a comically small penis.
 
2020-09-23 1:22:43 PM  
Charges filed!!!!!!
 
2020-09-23 1:22:46 PM  
3 counts of wanton endangerment
 
2020-09-23 1:23:10 PM  
3 Counts of Wanton Endangerment...
 
2020-09-23 1:23:14 PM  
only one office charged
 
2020-09-23 1:23:18 PM  
Warrants issued!!!
 
2020-09-23 1:23:32 PM  
3 counts: all have to do with just one officer
 
2020-09-23 1:23:41 PM  

abbarach: midigod: /disclaimer: I'm white, and I loathe it when POC use the term "white folks," because it's always derogatory. So fark everybody for making me use it here.

Thank god you're here to make this tragic event all about your fragile ego, whitey.


What a shame that's the only part you read. Well, I appreciate your insight anyway.
 
2020-09-23 1:24:07 PM  
They only charged the officer that was fired. No charges for any of the other officers that participated.
 
2020-09-23 1:24:14 PM  

RussianPotato: Keep in mind that the prosecutor (who works with and for the police) is the only one presenting evidence to the grand jury.  The grand jury can only consider what the prosecutor says and what the witnesses that the prosecutor calls say.  And those witnesses are confined to only answering the questions asked.  With that in mind, someone leaked to me a few portions of the transcript of the grand jury proceedings, which are always closed:

PROSECUTOR:  Officer *****, please tell us about your daring and heroic raid on the den of criminal activity known as Breona Taylor's drug den?

OFFICER *****:  Well, the first thing we noticed was the pile of dead bodies that were surrounding the front door.  Their eyes had been carved out.  And they were all naked.  What was interesting to us was "WE WILL KILL ALL COPS" was written in pure colombian cocaine on their skin.

PROSECUTOR:  And what happened after you nobly and bravely entered this wretched hive of scum and villainy?

OFFICER *****:  I'll never forget this, the decedent, Ms. Taylor, yes she was on her bed.  BUT, she was levitating in the air like one of those demons or ghosts in a movie.  And in each hand she was carrying two rocket propelled grenades.  As her head started twisting around in a full circle, we could hear an otherworldly voice saying ALL COPS ARE *******."

* * * *

PROSECUTOR:  Now, were you wearing body cams at the time.

OFFICER *****:  Yes, but the demonic interference from the residents of the drug den caused all of them to not work.  Damndest thing I ever saw.

* * * *
PROSECUTOR:  That all sounds very traumatic, for you and the accused officers.

OFFICER *****:  Yes, it was, it was terrible for all of us.  I could use a hug.

[Prosecutor hugs Officer *****]

PROSECUTOR:  And please, I urge every single member of this fearless, American grand jury to come down and give a hug to poor Officer *****.


So yeah, I wonder how it's going to go.


The hugs really sold it for me.
 
2020-09-23 1:24:18 PM  
Well, that's something at least
 
2020-09-23 1:24:26 PM  
1 indicted?
 
2020-09-23 1:24:28 PM  
Oh fun, they found a scapegoat.
 
2020-09-23 1:25:22 PM  
Oh his wrist is gonna sting from that slapping
 
2020-09-23 1:25:23 PM  

mzkitty901: only one office charged


mrshowrules: 3 counts: all have to do with just one officer


Looks like they chose a scapegoat so that they could have it both ways.
 
2020-09-23 1:26:03 PM  

SirDigbyChickenCaesar: cameroncrazy1984: They'd rather have their city burned to the ground than one of theirs go to jail for a crime they committed.

It's a Grand Jury


It's my understanding that a prosecutor can bring criminal charges with or without a grand jury.  Is that not correct? The grand jury is kind of passing the buck when the DA just doesn't want to bring charges because reasons.
 
2020-09-23 1:26:09 PM  
Why are there 2 threads? Fark it. I'll follow this one. It's newer!
 
2020-09-23 1:26:37 PM  
That's f*cked up.
 
2020-09-23 1:26:51 PM  

Outshined_One: Oh fun, they found a scapegoat.


You know, that's not ideal, but if it dissuades any cops who don't want to be the fall guy...
 
2020-09-23 1:26:57 PM  
Welp.
 
2020-09-23 1:27:24 PM  
Wanton endangerment, 1-5 years.
 
2020-09-23 1:27:30 PM  
How are y'all hearing about who is indicted when the live feed hasn't started yet?
 
2020-09-23 1:27:52 PM  

ImpendingCynic: Outshined_One: Oh fun, they found a scapegoat.

You know, that's not ideal, but if it dissuades any cops who don't want to be the fall guy...


Which it won't because he won't go to prison and will probably be hired as a cop on another police force.
 
2020-09-23 1:28:07 PM  

hodgemann: How are y'all hearing about who is indicted when the live feed hasn't started yet?


I watched it on wkyt like five minutes ago.
 
2020-09-23 1:28:16 PM  
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2020-09-23 1:28:37 PM  
Class D felony which has a maximum of 5 year sentence.
 
2020-09-23 1:28:51 PM  

hodgemann: How are y'all hearing about who is indicted when the live feed hasn't started yet?


https://www.wave3.com/2020/09/23/breo​n​na-taylor-case-brett-hankison-indicted​-counts-wanton-endangerment/
 
2020-09-23 1:29:07 PM  
So they scarified a rookie?
 
2020-09-23 1:29:10 PM  
3 counts, $10k fine and up to 5 years for each. $30k fine and 15 years max. 

It's a start I guess.
 
2020-09-23 1:29:15 PM  

Ray44512: Wanton endangerment, 1-5 years.


Assuming he gets convicted.

Spoiler alert: He won't be convicted on any charges because of reasons
 
2020-09-23 1:29:23 PM  
tick tock
tick tock
159.56.
 
2020-09-23 1:29:34 PM  

soupafi: So they scarified a rookie?


He was a detective, so he had some time on.
 
2020-09-23 1:29:47 PM  
3 counts of wanton endangerment in the 1st degree, against 1 officer?  WTF?

For those, like me, that don't know, wanton endangerment in the 1st degree is a Class D felony
 
2020-09-23 1:30:05 PM  
NBC News just said that these charges would be eligible for pre-trial diversion - aka he will get off.
 
2020-09-23 1:30:16 PM  
Class D:
Class D felonies in Kentucky include possession of a firearm by a convicted felon, unauthorized use of a credit card involving a sum of money between $500 and $1,000, stalking in the first degree, possession of a controlled substance, and wanton endangerment in the first degree. Those with multiple offenses of "lesser" crimes might eventually face Class D felony charges, such as someone with four driving convictions for under the influence. People convicted of Class D felonies in Kentucky face 1 to 5 years' imprisonment.
 
2020-09-23 1:30:17 PM  
Woman gets murdered in her bed.

Murderer gets charged with endangering a mediocre soup.
 
2020-09-23 1:30:21 PM  

A Terrible Human: hodgemann: How are y'all hearing about who is indicted when the live feed hasn't started yet?

I watched it on wkyt like five minutes ago.


MSNBC carried the judge's announcement live - about 15 minutes ago
 
2020-09-23 1:30:24 PM  
"Wanton endangerment, 1-5 years."

Meh. Sounds reasonable. :-|

(*shrug*)

"Proceed."
 
2020-09-23 1:30:26 PM  
Wanton Endangerment is a weird way to spell manslaughter.
 
2020-09-23 1:30:49 PM  
Not. Good. Enough. Stay safe Louisville farkers.
 
2020-09-23 1:31:12 PM  
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2020-09-23 1:31:14 PM  
1 officer charged with wonton endangerment.  Lovely.  Remember that before this case got any real attention following George Floyd's death, Breonna Taylor's boyfriend was charged with attempted murder of a police officer and aggravated assault.  Prosecutors charged him quickly, drawn out process to drop the charges.  Now we have a drawn out process to throw a tiny charge at an already fired officer.  Justice in this country is well farked.
 
2020-09-23 1:31:46 PM  
Seriously, tho, this country is a joke.
 
2020-09-23 1:31:48 PM  
killing black person = credit card fraud in the $500 to $1,000 range
 
2020-09-23 1:32:05 PM  
once again proving that if you want to legally murder anyone with no real repercussions get on an American police force, any of them will do
 
2020-09-23 1:32:29 PM  

RussianPotato: Woman gets murdered in her bed.

Murderer gets charged with endangering a mediocre soup.


Endangerment because there could have been a white person in the apartment.
 
2020-09-23 1:32:35 PM  
THE TEMPTATIONS ain t no justice
Youtube -zx0PM4Ro04
 
2020-09-23 1:32:38 PM  

RussianPotato: Woman gets murdered in her bed.

Murderer gets charged with endangering a mediocre soup.


Idiot troll minimizes serious situation.
 
2020-09-23 1:32:43 PM  

OtherLittleGuy: I wouldn't put it past Barr and McConnell coordinating to create peak outrage to bring in the Unmarked Stormtroopers, including the police spokesperson appearing in blackface and singing Al Jolson while kicking a puppy.


They would never, ever try to reference Al Jolson.

Al Jolson was sympathetic to black people. Also, they would refer to him as (((Al Jolson))).
 
2020-09-23 1:33:02 PM  
I'd like to thank that DA for giving the rest of us an even bigger excuse to call them a scumbag, and please direct all lawsuits and blame over the resulting riots to that prosecutor.
 
2020-09-23 1:33:15 PM  

RussianPotato: Woman gets murdered in her bed.

Murderer gets charged with endangering a mediocre soup.


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2020-09-23 1:33:16 PM  
"1 officer charged with wonton endangerment."

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2020-09-23 1:33:32 PM  
And yet, if I were to kill a cop based on mistaken identity or location, I would face murder charges, not the lowest felony charge possible.  This is not justice.
 
2020-09-23 1:33:36 PM  
I'll look for scanner feeds, why wait?
 
2020-09-23 1:33:45 PM  

way south: They want to have a jubilee


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you should be farking ashamed of yourself
 
2020-09-23 1:33:48 PM  

silverblues: NBC News just said that these charges would be eligible for pre-trial diversion - aka he will get off.


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2020-09-23 1:33:58 PM  
"We will not tolerate any violence or destruction of property," LMPD Interim Chief Rob Schroeder said at that news conference.

Well, with 99.99% of the violence coming from cops....
 
2020-09-23 1:34:04 PM  

bamph: My guess is at the most Hankinson gets a Wanton Endangerment charge.  Everyone else skates.


What does bamph win?
 
2020-09-23 1:34:15 PM  
The jury recommended three counts of wanton endangerment against Brett Hankison.

Hankison was fired for "blindly" shooting 10 rounds into Taylor's apartment from outside, according to his termination letter. According to the grand jury's announcement, that is what resulted in the charges against Hankison.


So if he'd gone inside and fired those same 10 shots, he would be free to go?  And weren't there over 20 shots fired?
 
2020-09-23 1:34:38 PM  
Anyone remember John Titor crap? Been thinking a lot about that lately. May have just been off by a decade or two.
 
2020-09-23 1:35:03 PM  
If I fired a gun into the air here in Louisville, KY, I would be charged with wanton endangerment. That's how much value AG Daniel Cameron placed on Breonna Taylor's life - air.
 
2020-09-23 1:35:08 PM  

OldRod: And weren't there over 20 shots fired?


should be over 20 cops fired
 
2020-09-23 1:35:17 PM  

mrshowrules: RussianPotato: Woman gets murdered in her bed.

Murderer gets charged with endangering a mediocre soup.

Endangerment because there could have been a white person in the apartment.


Or a bullet could have penetrated a wall and struck a white person in the next apartment.
 
2020-09-23 1:35:38 PM  
mufuggin moydah
 
2020-09-23 1:35:44 PM  

Duck_of_Doom: Anyone remember John Titor crap? Been thinking a lot about that lately. May have just been off by a decade or two.


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2020-09-23 1:35:52 PM  
And it's just for stray bullets into another apartment. Everything else was totally above board, I guess.

/dear louisville - riot as if you're white and the cardinals just lost the national title game based on 400 yrs of terrible refereeing
 
2020-09-23 1:36:02 PM  
Late to the party.  What exactly does this mean?

/He's charged, but this sounds like a light slap on the wrist?  Is that what this amounts to?
 
2020-09-23 1:36:09 PM  

imapirate: If I fired a gun into the air here in Louisville, KY, I would be charged with wanton endangerment. That's how much value AG Daniel Cameron placed on Breonna Taylor's life - air.


To be fair, one New Year's Eve my neighbor fired several shots into the air and was never charged.

I did try to call the authorities but for some reason I could not get a signal on my phone.
 
2020-09-23 1:36:32 PM  

hodgemann: "We will not tolerate any violence or destruction of property," LMPD Interim Chief Rob Schroeder said at that news conference.

Well, with 99.99% of the violence coming from cops....


So, hey, here's an idea... charge these asshole cops with at least manslaughter, or maybe even murder!  Maybe there wouldn't be any violence or destruction of property
 
2020-09-23 1:36:40 PM  

OldRod: The jury recommended three counts of wanton endangerment against Brett Hankison.

Hankison was fired for "blindly" shooting 10 rounds into Taylor's apartment from outside, according to his termination letter. According to the grand jury's announcement, that is what resulted in the charges against Hankison.

So if he'd gone inside and fired those same 10 shots, he would be free to go?  And weren't there over 20 shots fired?


If you are dumping rounds into an apartment without a clear target... you shouldn't be a cop.  This is not a war where you fire for effect.  Stupid cop.
 
2020-09-23 1:36:41 PM  

gameshowhost: And it's just for stray bullets into another apartment. Everything else was totally above board, I guess.

/dear louisville - riot as if you're white and the cardinals just lost the national title game based on 400 yrs of terrible refereeing


Wait, no, seriously?
 
2020-09-23 1:36:47 PM  

vudukungfu: OldRod: And weren't there over 20 shots fired?

should be over 20 cops fired in jail


FTFY
 
2020-09-23 1:36:48 PM  

geom_00: Late to the party.  What exactly does this mean?

/He's charged, but this sounds like a light slap on the wrist?  Is that what this amounts to?


Pretty much.
 
2020-09-23 1:37:26 PM  
lol the chick on Fox (don't shoot me) is pronouncing it 'wonton'.
 
2020-09-23 1:37:39 PM  

Duck_of_Doom: Anyone remember John Titor crap? Been thinking a lot about that lately. May have just been off by a decade or two.


He got the computer part he needed to save his timeline, but it only delayed the inevitable by a couple decades, so here we are
 
2020-09-23 1:37:40 PM  
 
2020-09-23 1:37:59 PM  

geom_00: Late to the party.  What exactly does this mean?

/He's charged, but this sounds like a light slap on the wrist?  Is that what this amounts to?


Each charge carries a 1-5 year possible sentence.
Being its a pre-trial diversion offense, he may never set foot in court.
Being its his first offense and a police officer, he'd get the minimum only.
Being he's the only one charged, everyone else is off the hook.
 
2020-09-23 1:38:00 PM  
Nope, fark it. Burn it to the ground.
 
2020-09-23 1:38:05 PM  

2dogsrunning: I'm with you. A venn diagram of Second amendment fanatics and people who think the cops were right seem to be a perfect circle.


You have to qualify that to make it work.  Because the 2nd amendment fanatics are a very large group of people, and literally the majority of them are NOT republicans.

But the people who think the cops were right, is a very small group of people.  Every republican I've told about this story, has agreed that there needs to be reform.  Every single one.

So the ven diagram is a giant circle covering a huge swath of the population, vs. a small box to begin with, that shrinks fast once people get an ounce of detail injected into the conversation.
 
2020-09-23 1:38:12 PM  

dark brew: 1 officer charged with wonton endangerment.  Lovely.  Remember that before this case got any real attention following George Floyd's death, Breonna Taylor's boyfriend was charged with attempted murder of a police officer and aggravated assault.  Prosecutors charged him quickly, drawn out process to drop the charges.  Now we have a drawn out process to throw a tiny charge at an already fired officer.  Justice in this country is well farked.


Frankly it's a miracle they didn't charge him with murder for the police killing her. Their argument could easily have been that his "felonious" actions (returning fire at intruders who did not announce their presence before opening fire) directly caused the death of someone who had died before he fired his first shot.

/along with informing the jurors that they have really lovely families, whose home and work addresses are known to the police, and it would be a real shame if something happened to them
 
2020-09-23 1:38:13 PM  
That's bullshiat. If he acted wantonly and caused Taylor's death it should be second degree manslaughter.
 
2020-09-23 1:38:40 PM  

geom_00: Late to the party.  What exactly does this mean?

/He's charged, but this sounds like a light slap on the wrist?  Is that what this amounts to?


Not quite a slap on the wrist, but a mere Class D felony is still a joke of a result.
 
2020-09-23 1:38:51 PM  

OldRod: hodgemann: "We will not tolerate any violence or destruction of property," LMPD Interim Chief Rob Schroeder said at that news conference.

Well, with 99.99% of the violence coming from cops....

So, hey, here's an idea... charge these asshole cops with at least manslaughter, or maybe even murder!  Maybe there wouldn't be any violence or destruction of property


Right?  What's cheaper and more efficient?  Charging murderous cops with murder or paying overtime to murderous cops so they can attack people protesting murderous cops?
 
2020-09-23 1:38:52 PM  
3 counts of first degree wanton endangerment? WTF is that?
 
2020-09-23 1:39:04 PM  
It appears you can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich but not an actual pig.

Total bullshiat charge.
 
2020-09-23 1:39:12 PM  

dionysusaur: Pretty much.


FirstTimeLongTime: Each charge carries a 1-5 year possible sentence.
Being its a pre-trial diversion offense, he may never set foot in court.
Being its his first offense and a police officer, he'd get the minimum only.
Being he's the only one charged, everyone else is off the hook.


Thank you
 
2020-09-23 1:39:57 PM  

abhorrent1: 3 counts of first degree wanton endangerment? WTF is that?


An expected outcome.
 
2020-09-23 1:40:01 PM  

thisispete: That's bullshiat. If he acted wantonly and caused Taylor's death it should be second degree manslaughter.


At the very least!
 
2020-09-23 1:40:06 PM  
Wait... Are we listening to the AG getting briefed on what to say?

Is that what I'm hearing?  Clownshoes if so.
 
2020-09-23 1:40:21 PM  

RussianPotato: gameshowhost: And it's just for stray bullets into another apartment. Everything else was totally above board, I guess.

/dear louisville - riot as if you're white and the cardinals just lost the national title game based on 400 yrs of terrible refereeing

Wait, no, seriously?


yep, apparently. that's the wanton endangerment.
 
2020-09-23 1:40:22 PM  

abhorrent1: 3 counts of first degree wanton endangerment? WTF is that?


An attempt to create the illusion of justice without actually putting anyone "important" at risk of real consequences.
 
2020-09-23 1:40:26 PM  

Por que tan serioso: dothemath: Its high times for people who invested in lighter fluid.

I just purchased a container of genuine Zippo lighter fluid for my permanent match. Glad I got in before the rush.


I'm genuinely curious, what is the appeal of the permanent match? It seems like an inferior Zippo lighter with a losable part. Maybe there is a use I'm not seeing?
 
2020-09-23 1:40:45 PM  

abhorrent1: 3 counts of first degree wanton endangerment? WTF is that?


The end of Louisville
 
2020-09-23 1:40:54 PM  

abhorrent1: 3 counts of first degree wanton endangerment? WTF is that?


A slap on the wrist and a pass to go work at another police force somewhere else when Detective Brett Hankison's name is eventually forgotten.

In other words: Status Quo
 
2020-09-23 1:40:55 PM  
Up to5 years in jail. He'll probably get time served and reimbursement of wages.
 
2020-09-23 1:40:57 PM  

geom_00: Late to the party.  What exactly does this mean?

/He's charged, but this sounds like a light slap on the wrist?  Is that what this amounts to?


For homicide, it is a light slap.  Anything harder would probably lead to a locked Kentucky jury.  It is probably the only way the shooter will see trial.  And it sucks.

At any rate, charges should be laid on the bureaucrats who sent the cops to Breonna's house.
 
2020-09-23 1:40:57 PM  
So related headsup: apparently the city bought her boyfriend's house for a single dollar.

Also, reminder that the cops tried to pressure the boyfriend into getting her involved in drug charges after her death. The entire police department is sus and should be fired.
 
2020-09-23 1:41:07 PM  

Abox: lol the chick on Fox (don't shoot me) is pronouncing it 'wonton'.


Is she the spokesdumpling?
 
2020-09-23 1:41:11 PM  

abhorrent1: 3 counts of first degree wanton endangerment? WTF is that?


It's when you threaten one of these:

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2020-09-23 1:41:16 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: If I remember right, they mostly burned down police stations in Minneapolis, and federal buildings in Portland. So, that's what they ARE doing


You don't.
Nearly 1,500 Minneapolis businesses were heavily damaged in the riots, and many were completely destroyed, forcing owners to clear the site before rebuilding.https://www.bizjournals.co​m/twincities​/news/2020/08/31/demolition-costs-minn​eapolis-st-paul-riot-recovery.html

Dozens of businesses Portland  looted, vandalized during riots
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/loca​l​/downtown-portland-businesses-looted-v​andalized-during-riots/283-c5d4a7b7-66​e0-4fa1-a332-bd782540321a
 
2020-09-23 1:41:17 PM  

abhorrent1: 3 counts of first degree wanton endangerment? WTF is that?


Proof of white privilege, regardless of what Cheetolini's stupid Executive Order says.
 
2020-09-23 1:41:24 PM  

BeesNuts: Wait... Are we listening to the AG getting briefed on what to say?

Is that what I'm hearing?  Clownshoes if so.


Where?  The link above didn't have a live stream that I saw
 
2020-09-23 1:41:41 PM  
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2020-09-23 1:42:28 PM  

Avigdore: cameroncrazy1984: If I remember right, they mostly burned down police stations in Minneapolis, and federal buildings in Portland. So, that's what they ARE doing

You don't.
Nearly 1,500 Minneapolis businesses were heavily damaged in the riots, and many were completely destroyed, forcing owners to clear the site before rebuilding.https://www.bizjournals.com​/twincities/news/2020/08/31/demolition​-costs-minneapolis-st-paul-riot-recove​ry.html

Dozens of businesses Portland  looted, vandalized during riots
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local​/downtown-portland-businesses-looted-v​andalized-during-riots/283-c5d4a7b7-66​e0-4fa1-a332-bd782540321a


I'll note that you used several mischaracterizations and left out quite a few details in your post as usual. Thanks!
 
2020-09-23 1:42:36 PM  
No justice no peace.  Know justice know peace.  It really is that simple.
 
2020-09-23 1:42:42 PM  

NotThatGuyAgain: Someone Else's Alt: NotThatGuyAgain: Someone Else's Alt: physt: Someone Else's Alt: Dimensio: My boss (or rather his boss) gave the go-ahead for all of us to leave and work from home.

If you can do your work from home, why are you all in the office?

My boss's boss insisted we all return to the office. Of course, he just bought a house 1,600 miles away in Florida where he's moving to so he can stay remote. I go into the office and shut my mouth so I can stay employed during a world wide pandemic.

If I were you and caught covid, I am pretty sure I would own your bosses new house in Florida.

Obviously, YANAL.

Do you really think you can prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that you caught Covid at a specific place and time?

How do you prove that your blown out shoulder was a "work related injury"?

Track an Tracing. If I come down with covid and have participated in any activity that puts me in "contact" with other people for the prior 2 weeks, but are forced to work in enclosed space with other people and one of those other people in the work place turn up covid positive, especially if they are a anti-masker that has FB photos of them and six of their friends huddled together not wearing masks and drinking the weekend before, yeah I think I can make a good case.

Jesus.

Let's see...a virus that can't be seen with the naked eye versus OW THAT farkING HURT.

Yeah, totally the same thing.  You are either trolling or dumber than a litter box.


You can't "see" most of the hazards that are in a workplace. Gases, cancer causing agents, asbestosis, mold (sick building), lead etc etc etc.

Try to remember that as a manager of a facility, I am required by OSHA to provide a SAFE work environment. I have to have documented training on respirator mask fit test annually to keep my staff from being exposed to chemicals that have a 1 in 1,000,000 chance of causing cancer from LONG TERM exposure.

So what you are saying is, no employer can be held to a similar standard when dealing with an airborn virus because? Reasons?

If I have been at home for more than 14 days prior to being forced to come into the office to sit next to anti-maskers and get covid, and just one other person in that office turns up positive at the same time, I can make a good case that it was work that exposed me and that my employer did not take adequate steps to protect me and the rest of the staff from it.

Just look at current the CDC guidance for track and trace exposure, do you think you are more likely to get it at a gas pump, even though I wear my mask, use hand sanitizer before and after each pump, use wipes to wipe down my door handles, steering wheel etc after each stop etc, or siting in a confined space 8 hours a day with a covid positive employee coughing all over me and the boss is not providing safe distancing, N95 masks that are fit tested, face shields and routine temperature and covid testing of staff to limit accidental asymptomatic exposure?

I say it again, I could make a good case.
 
2020-09-23 1:42:44 PM  

Dimensio: bamph: My guess is at the most Hankinson gets a Wanton Endangerment charge.  Everyone else skates.

What does bamph win?


I'm guessing protests and riots.
 
2020-09-23 1:42:48 PM  

Ringshadow: So related headsup: apparently the city bought her boyfriend's house for a single dollar.

Also, reminder that the cops tried to pressure the boyfriend into getting her involved in drug charges after her death. The entire police department is sus and should be fired.


To be fair the house had some damage to the front door and the walls, so its value was significantly degraded.
 
2020-09-23 1:43:02 PM  

gameshowhost: geom_00: Late to the party.  What exactly does this mean?

/He's charged, but this sounds like a light slap on the wrist?  Is that what this amounts to?

Not quite a slap on the wrist, but a mere Class D felony is still a joke of a result.


Does that charge carry a stiffer sentence than having some weed on you? Because if not, then having the devil's lettuce is apparently worse than killing an innocent in their home. Layers of farkuppery, like an onion made of scars and pus.
 
2020-09-23 1:43:03 PM  

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Trying to remember what that was from.  It is literally the only scene I remember from that, just because I thought she was so cute doing that line.
 
2020-09-23 1:43:31 PM  
What a crock of shiat. Kill someone and get a slap on the wrist. Is the city on fire yet?
 
2020-09-23 1:43:35 PM  

OldRod: BeesNuts: Wait... Are we listening to the AG getting briefed on what to say?

Is that what I'm hearing?  Clownshoes if so.

Where?  The link above didn't have a live stream that I saw


WATCH LIVE: Breonna Taylor decision announced by Kentucky attorney general
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Just stopped.  But the last like 5 minutes there was backstage mumbling that sounded like a lawyer.
 
2020-09-23 1:44:15 PM  
Class C:
Class C felonies include unauthorized and unlawful access to a computer, unauthorized use of a credit card involving $10,000 or more, assault in the second degree, and manslaughter in the second degree, and trafficking in a controlled substance (over a certain amount). People convicted of Class C felonies face 5 to 10 years' imprisonment.



Did any of the bullets strike a computer?  That could have got it bumped up to a Class C.
 
2020-09-23 1:44:38 PM  

OldRod: abhorrent1: 3 counts of first degree wanton endangerment? WTF is that?

The end of Louisville


Well, the end of a lot of cops IN Louisville.
I do not think this will stay just property damage much longer.
 
2020-09-23 1:44:39 PM  
Is anyone rioting yet? I am currently at home in my basement but I need to know if I should start loading up AR magazines as a precaution, just in case the protests reach Lyndon.
 
2020-09-23 1:44:43 PM  

BeesNuts: OldRod: BeesNuts: Wait... Are we listening to the AG getting briefed on what to say?

Is that what I'm hearing?  Clownshoes if so.

Where?  The link above didn't have a live stream that I saw

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Just stopped.  But the last like 5 minutes there was backstage mumbling that sounded like a lawyer.


Thanks!
 
2020-09-23 1:44:46 PM  

Nogrhi: Abox: lol the chick on Fox (don't shoot me) is pronouncing it 'wonton'.

Is she the spokesdumpling?


No the show host Harris Faulkner
 
2020-09-23 1:46:14 PM  

Dimensio: I need to know if I should start loading up AR magazines as a precaution, just in case the protests reach Lyndon


So... you can help defend protestors from the cop uprising?
 
2020-09-23 1:46:42 PM  
Walking up to podium on pbs feed....
 
2020-09-23 1:47:05 PM  

bamph: Dimensio: bamph: My guess is at the most Hankinson gets a Wanton Endangerment charge.  Everyone else skates.

What does bamph win?

I'm guessing protests and riots.


I hear Enos was just convicted by Boss Hogg's cousin for money laundering through a restaurant.  Enos was innocent, Boss Hogg was the crook, and his cousin arranged it so everyone could save face except Enos, who kept trying to help those Duke boys, anyway.

(does that translate in Kentucky?)
 
2020-09-23 1:47:26 PM  
For f\./cks sake, they killed an innocent woman and skate by like this. Cops and DAs in collusion to kill black people, plain and simple.
 
2020-09-23 1:48:02 PM  
Here we go
 
2020-09-23 1:48:28 PM  

vudukungfu: OldRod: And weren't there over 20 shots fired?

should be over 20 cops fired


And the judge that signed off on a no-knock warrant.
 
2020-09-23 1:49:27 PM  
Some died as a result. 1st Deg Wanton Endangerment is a class D Felony with up to 5 years. It's bullshiat, should have been manslaughter.
 
2020-09-23 1:49:30 PM  
If I'm hearing correctly, it sounds like the wanton endangerment charges are because some of the bullets he fired went through walls and into other apartments. The charges have nothing to do with the fact that he killed someone.
 
2020-09-23 1:49:49 PM  

bfh0417: PunGent: dracos31: Just a reminder for the "alternative facts" brigade:

Yes, burning down shiat in protest is wrong. Police killing an innocent person and lying about it is MORE WRONG.

To paraphrase somebody else, if you're more worried about property damage than about murdering unarmed civilians...

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I disagree strongly with the "The Left" quote there...

The implication there is that guys like Rittenhouse, who was ostensibly protecting property, are no more guilty than Breonna Taylor and her boyfriend, because both were "defending property".

But I think most people, even "the left" would consider somebody violently breaking down your front door while you are home to be a situation where the victim would reasonably fear for their own life.  Assuming the perpetrator is just going to take their TV and leave them unharmed in any way is not at all reasonable.  You think they won't pull a gun or a knife to cow you while they loot your shiat?  That they will just say, "I'm here to take your TV, can you please just look the other way?  And not call the cops until I leave?"

Someone who breaks down your door while you sleep is obviously unconcerned with waking you and therefor is not concerned with the fact that you will wake up and possibly(probably) resist in some way.  They are ready for a fight.  In that situation, the violence against you personally is implicit and grave.
 
2020-09-23 1:49:52 PM  
"there's nothing I can do today..."

Uh... you could farking charge murderous farking cops with farking murder, you farking moron special prosecutor.
 
2020-09-23 1:50:07 PM  
Ain't no tragedy.  It's farking murder you anxious twat.
 
2020-09-23 1:50:26 PM  
The scene in Jeff park is tense.  There were some calm voices, but the anger is present.

Police helicopter has been overhead for about an hour, and there's now police presence at the barricade entrances to the cordon all along the perimeter.  For those who want to know what this looks like:
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FYI, I'm at the top-left corner of the cordon and up a few flights.

Adjacent to my building there's a public street-level parking lot.  Earlier today the press arrived in the lot, and set up at the barricade.  After a few minutes, armed individuals in tactical gear parked near the reporters vehicle and passed by 8th and Market, entering the cordon; They didn't look like police and were not driving marked vehicles.

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2020-09-23 1:50:26 PM  

King Something: dark brew: 1 officer charged with wonton endangerment.  Lovely.  Remember that before this case got any real attention following George Floyd's death, Breonna Taylor's boyfriend was charged with attempted murder of a police officer and aggravated assault.  Prosecutors charged him quickly, drawn out process to drop the charges.  Now we have a drawn out process to throw a tiny charge at an already fired officer.  Justice in this country is well farked.

Frankly it's a miracle they didn't charge him with murder for the police killing her. Their argument could easily have been that his "felonious" actions (returning fire at intruders who did not announce their presence before opening fire) directly caused the death of someone who had died before he fired his first shot.

/along with informing the jurors that they have really lovely families, whose home and work addresses are known to the police, and it would be a real shame if something happened to them


Attempted murder of a police officer was going to put him away for 20 years and it is beyond clear now that they put no value whatsoever on Breonna Taylor's life, so they didn't need to charge the boyfriend with felony murder.

Now, if one police officer runs over and kills another police officer during a call, you bet your sweet ass that prosecutors will find a way to charge someone not wearing blue with that officer's death.  We are really past the point of being able to fix the US justice system, but there should be an independent prosecutor's office for every state that just handles police use of force and corruption cases.  Otherwise it's the local prosecutors who are buddy buddy with the cops and don't want to hold them accountable for anything.
 
2020-09-23 1:51:18 PM  
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If my boss forced me to come into a covid den I would show up like this.
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Dressdown day.


I also enjoy Bioshock 2.
 
2020-09-23 1:51:45 PM  

abhorrent1: If I'm hearing correctly, it sounds like the wanton endangerment charges are because some of the bullets he fired went through walls and into other apartments. The charges have nothing to do with the fact that he killed someone.


It's because he was firing blindly.  Not sure it mattered that the bullets went into other apartments.  He had no idea what he was firing at, but fired 10 times anyway
 
2020-09-23 1:51:58 PM  

Dimensio: Is anyone rioting yet? I am currently at home in my basement but I need to know if I should start loading up AR magazines as a precaution, just in case the protests reach Lyndon.


*waves* Hello fellow Kentuckianan Farker.
 
2020-09-23 1:52:05 PM  
With more than 200 years of combined corruption... we investorgated what happened.
 
2020-09-23 1:52:27 PM  

abhorrent1: If I'm hearing correctly, it sounds like the wanton endangerment charges are because some of the bullets he fired went through walls and into other apartments. The charges have nothing to do with the fact that he killed someone.


Yup. He was blindfiring into the apartment after the initial shots. Doubt he hit her. He was charged for endangering the people in the next apartment, as identified by their initials.
 
2020-09-23 1:52:31 PM  
No body cameras, says AG
 
2020-09-23 1:52:56 PM  

OldRod: He had no idea what he was firing at, but fired 10 times anyway


LOOK OUT, NED, IT'S HEADED RIGHT FUR US!!!!!!
 
2020-09-23 1:52:56 PM  
So Louisville just formally approved police to enter and shoot up residences unannounced with the only consequence being if they shoot *other* residences?
 
2020-09-23 1:53:18 PM  
Welp, here we go.

Bastards.
 
2020-09-23 1:53:52 PM  

Duck_of_Doom: gameshowhost: geom_00: Late to the party.  What exactly does this mean?

/He's charged, but this sounds like a light slap on the wrist?  Is that what this amounts to?

Not quite a slap on the wrist, but a mere Class D felony is still a joke of a result.

Does that charge carry a stiffer sentence than having some weed on you? Because if not, then having the devil's lettuce is apparently worse than killing an innocent in their home. Layers of farkuppery, like an onion made of scars and pus.


I dunno the GA penalty guideline for Class D but it sure as hell ain't justice for Breonna Taylor.
 
2020-09-23 1:53:55 PM  

Marbleisheavy: So Louisville just formally approved police to enter and shoot up residences unannounced with the only consequence being if they shoot *other* residences?


And be sure to not have you body cam on
 
2020-09-23 1:54:07 PM  
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2020-09-23 1:54:19 PM  
Police should not be in charge of their body cams.  A civilian review board should have first access to body cam footage.  That will prevent cops from using the oopsie excuse as a way of not releasing damning footage.
 
2020-09-23 1:54:23 PM  

Marbleisheavy: So Louisville just formally approved police to enter and shoot up residences unannounced with the only consequence being if they shoot *other* residences?


Well.
Residences of non-lilly-white variety.
 
2020-09-23 1:54:52 PM  
"The accused is innocent until proven guilty"

Unless you get a no-knock warrant in the middle of the night...
 
2020-09-23 1:55:30 PM  
nwa fuck the police hq
Youtube c5fts7bj-so
 
2020-09-23 1:55:31 PM  
Wait... is he saying that they *were* supposed to knock?
 
2020-09-23 1:56:06 PM  
Time to spend my lunch hour either having an anxiety attack or crying.
 
2020-09-23 1:57:05 PM  
Well, the cops said they knocked and oh look, here's a "witness", so there's no need to get rid of no-knock warrants.  Sleep soundly, citizens.
 
2020-09-23 1:57:36 PM  
Chances these charges were filed after consulting with Barr/White House to provoke another rash of "HUR LANWMORDER DURR" rallies?

/foil hat off
 
2020-09-23 1:57:49 PM  
AG just said there was a single anonymous witness who claimed the police announced themselves.  Apparently that's good enough to go against the multiple witnesses who said the opposite, and the lack of bodycams that mysteriously didn't capture the incident.
 
2020-09-23 1:57:58 PM  
"I'm prohibited from making comments which may influence the public" -- prosecutor who went out of his way to avoid charging any cops with any homicide charges for fatally shooting Breonna Taylor, and only charged one cop with three counts of accidentally shooting neighbors' apartments.

/and he's currently reading the cops' report as if it's the gospel truth
//specifically denying friendly fire for the cop's injuries
///claiming Taylor, who was asleep in her bed at the time, was standing by her boyfriend
 
2020-09-23 1:58:03 PM  
Jeez!  One officer shot 6 times and another shot 16 times!  Not counting the guy who fired 10 shots from outside?
 
2020-09-23 1:58:07 PM  
And they wonder why people want to burn the whole farking thing to the ground.

So much bullshiat.
 
2020-09-23 1:58:23 PM  
Good news.  While she was hit with six 40 caliber bullets, only one of them was technically fatal.  So the rest don't count?
 
2020-09-23 1:58:44 PM  
See?  She would have died anyway, so the murderous cops letting her bleed out in the hallway was inconsequential.  Nothing to see here, citizens.
 
2020-09-23 1:59:22 PM  
Cosgrove fired 16 times and fired the fatal shot... and he's not even charged?  WTF?
 
2020-09-23 2:00:35 PM  

OldRod: Cosgrove fired 16 times and fired the fatal shot... and he's not even charged?  WTF?


The "official" police report said that she was standing next to her boyfriend while simultaneously sleeping in her bed.

/he's gonna get the Hero Of The Reich award for this
 
2020-09-23 2:00:47 PM  

OldRod: Cosgrove fired 16 times and fired the fatal shot... and he's not even charged?  WTF?


Well, it's a matter of he-said, lab-said, so you can see why they just can't know for sure.  Therefore, we can't charge anyone.  It's unknowable.

I don't care who fired the *fatal* shot as much as this chucklefark thinks I do.
 
2020-09-23 2:01:07 PM  

OldRod: Cosgrove fired 16 times and fired the fatal shot... and he's not even charged?  WTF?


Well, see... he is white.
 
2020-09-23 2:01:11 PM  

King Something: OldRod: Cosgrove fired 16 times and fired the fatal shot... and he's not even charged?  WTF?

The "official" police report said that she was standing next to her boyfriend while simultaneously sleeping in her bed.

/he's gonna get the Hero Of The Reich award for this


"She's sleepwalking right at us!"
 
2020-09-23 2:01:36 PM  

hodgemann: vudukungfu: OldRod: And weren't there over 20 shots fired?

should be over 20 cops fired in jail

Prison
FTFY
 
2020-09-23 2:01:42 PM  
The Grand Jury is "independent" from the prosecutor
 
2020-09-23 2:01:58 PM  
Dude's trying to paint the Grand Jury system as some kind of paragon of justice.  That's rich.
 
2020-09-23 2:02:32 PM  

vudukungfu: hodgemann: vudukungfu: OldRod: And weren't there over 20 shots fired?

should be over 20 cops fired in jail
Prison
FTFY


Gitmo
FTFY
 
2020-09-23 2:02:44 PM  

NINEv2: Chances these charges were filed after consulting with Barr/White House to provoke another rash of "HUR LANWMORDER DURR" rallies?

/foil hat off


Isn't the Kentucky AG a Trumper himself?

He probably did it for free.
 
2020-09-23 2:02:55 PM  
I am not a gun guy... how many rounds do these handguns hold?  Can that one officer fire 16 times without reloading?
 
2020-09-23 2:03:09 PM  
Truly, I think we can agree they did the white thing.
 
2020-09-23 2:03:33 PM  
According to the cops, the cops' actions were justified.
 
2020-09-23 2:03:41 PM  
"As a prosecutor the laws of KY prevent me from making comments to influence this case."

*moments later*

"I believe the officers were justified in firing in self defense. .....I believe there was a reasonable doubt...."
 
2020-09-23 2:04:15 PM  
See, it is all the boyfriend's fault that the cops murdered a woman in her bed.

"justice is often not easy"  Or just non-existent.
 
2020-09-23 2:04:31 PM  

Mrtraveler01: NINEv2: Chances these charges were filed after consulting with Barr/White House to provoke another rash of "HUR LANWMORDER DURR" rallies?

/foil hat off

Isn't the Kentucky AG a Trumper himself?

He probably did it for free.


He's buddies with Turtle I believe. So basically
 
2020-09-23 2:04:35 PM  
RIP Louisville

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2020-09-23 2:05:08 PM  
He's in pursuit of the "truth"
 
2020-09-23 2:05:11 PM  

hodgemann: See, it is all the boyfriend's fault that the cops murdered a woman in her bed.

"justice is often not easy"  Or just non-existent.


Was the boyfriend even hit?  26 bullets were fired at him and it sounds like only Breonna was hit
 
2020-09-23 2:05:12 PM  

OldRod: I am not a gun guy... how many rounds do these handguns hold?  Can that one officer fire 16 times without reloading?


15 +1 in the chamber, yep.
 
2020-09-23 2:05:33 PM  
Your job is to lick boots and get people promoted.  Fark off.
 
2020-09-23 2:05:54 PM  
The AG realizes they can try again with a grand jury right?  I mean, I'm sure they've never gone to the grand jury multiple times to try and charge other suspects, but maybe he just isn't aware?
 
2020-09-23 2:06:13 PM  
Now he's saying the protestors are blind to the truth.
 
2020-09-23 2:06:27 PM  

OldRod: I am not a gun guy... how many rounds do these handguns hold?  Can that one officer fire 16 times without reloading?


16 is a common magazine capacity for a full sized 40 S&W pistol.
 
2020-09-23 2:06:29 PM  

Eli WhiskeyDik: RIP Louisville

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Guns are so 2019.

You can do better. Spread some 155mm love.
 
2020-09-23 2:06:37 PM  
I hope that somehow this tanks Moscow Mitch's re-election campaign. News organizations need to get him on the record as to whether he thinks justice is being served.
 
2020-09-23 2:06:45 PM  
ooga booga activists from out of state
 
2020-09-23 2:07:00 PM  

Mrtraveler01: NINEv2: Chances these charges were filed after consulting with Barr/White House to provoke another rash of "HUR LANWMORDER DURR" rallies?

/foil hat off

Isn't the Kentucky AG a Trumper himself?

He probably did it for free.


Yes a "R"
 
2020-09-23 2:07:05 PM  
And now he's on about outside agitators.  He's actively trying to start a riot now.
 
2020-09-23 2:07:09 PM  

imaconnect4guy: The AG realizes they can try again with a grand jury right?  I mean, I'm sure they've never gone to the grand jury multiple times to try and charge other suspects, but maybe he just isn't aware?


MSNBC was saying that happens all the time, but almost never with a cop-involved shooting
 
2020-09-23 2:07:19 PM  
Only the cops know the facts(TM).  Don't listen to those famous people who are just as outraged as you are, cuz they don't know the facts(TM).
 
2020-09-23 2:07:35 PM  

OldRod: I am not a gun guy... how many rounds do these handguns hold?  Can that one officer fire 16 times without reloading?


A standard police Glock 22 holds 15, but also has 16 or 22 round magazines.

Not sure if this is the weapon used, but likely it is.
 
2020-09-23 2:07:55 PM  

gameshowhost: OldRod: I am not a gun guy... how many rounds do these handguns hold?  Can that one officer fire 16 times without reloading?

15 +1 in the chamber, yep.


SumJackass07: OldRod: I am not a gun guy... how many rounds do these handguns hold?  Can that one officer fire 16 times without reloading?

16 is a common magazine capacity for a full sized 40 S&W pistol.


Thanks!
 
2020-09-23 2:08:16 PM  
Oh, he's creating a task force!  It's all good now!
 
2020-09-23 2:08:26 PM  

RyansPrivates: I hope that somehow this tanks Moscow Mitch's re-election campaign. News organizations need to get him on the record as to whether he thinks justice is being served.


In Kentucky? Probably wins by more now.
 
2020-09-23 2:08:33 PM  

Eli WhiskeyDik: RIP Louisville

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Good luck finding one for sale. I went to Bass Pro over the weekend just to , maybe, pick up some ammo... they had almost no guns of any kind in stock and aside from 30-06 and 12gauge they had no ammo to speak of either.

and the only stuff available on CheaperThanDirt is a bunch of  never heard of them brands, and even that is in short supply ammo wise.
 
2020-09-23 2:08:54 PM  
Oh, he's forming a task force to look into the system that approves warrants.  I'm sure they will write a vigorous and stern letter.
 
2020-09-23 2:09:19 PM  

eagles95: RyansPrivates: I hope that somehow this tanks Moscow Mitch's re-election campaign. News organizations need to get him on the record as to whether he thinks justice is being served.

In Kentucky? Probably wins by more now.


Yeah, probably true

/Texas, where I live, would be same
 
2020-09-23 2:09:39 PM  
AG chooses the side of "justice" and "truth"

Q&A
 
2020-09-23 2:10:37 PM  

hodgemann: Oh, he's forming a task force to look into the system that approves warrants.  I'm sure they will write a vigorous and stern letter.


It's funny he thinks that means a goddamn thing. People aren't upset about the warrant, they are upset about the killing. What a f|_|ckwit
 
2020-09-23 2:10:40 PM  

eagles95: RyansPrivates: I hope that somehow this tanks Moscow Mitch's re-election campaign. News organizations need to get him on the record as to whether he thinks justice is being served.

In Kentucky? Probably wins by more now.


He's won. 
A local celebrity sports guy has encouraged people to send money to Democrats in tight races, not to McGrath. 

/kinda agree
//state full of morons
 
2020-09-23 2:11:00 PM  
Good job on the sound crew. The press are almost completely inaudible.

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2020-09-23 2:11:11 PM  

King Something: AG chooses the side of "justice" and "truth"

Q&A


I'm sure he will be "Fair and Balanced"
 
2020-09-23 2:13:10 PM  

bionicjoe: eagles95: RyansPrivates: I hope that somehow this tanks Moscow Mitch's re-election campaign. News organizations need to get him on the record as to whether he thinks justice is being served.

In Kentucky? Probably wins by more now.

He's won. 
A local celebrity sports guy has encouraged people to send money to Democrats in tight races, not to McGrath. 

/kinda agree
//state full of morons


Yeah, this state is a bit of a wreck.  The Turtle hasn't been in danger from a KY Dem for as long as I can remember.

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2020-09-23 2:13:44 PM  
Police report and one anonymous witness claim that the cops knocked, and fired in self defense.

Other witnesses claim otherwise.

Police body cam supporting their version of events is curiously non-existent.
 
2020-09-23 2:13:45 PM  

Stratohead: Eli WhiskeyDik: RIP Louisville

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Good luck finding one for sale. I went to Bass Pro over the weekend just to , maybe, pick up some ammo... they had almost no guns of any kind in stock and aside from 30-06 and 12gauge they had no ammo to speak of either.

and the only stuff available on CheaperThanDirt is a bunch of  never heard of them brands, and even that is in short supply ammo wise.


S'why I picked the 30-06. Now if there were just some earthly way for one person to cover all 3 exits...

/didn't quite think that one thru
 
2020-09-23 2:14:49 PM  

RyansPrivates: hodgemann: Oh, he's forming a task force to look into the system that approves warrants.  I'm sure they will write a vigorous and stern letter.

It's funny he thinks that means a goddamn thing. People aren't upset about the warrant, they are upset about the killing. What a f|_|ckwit


Well, they aren't upset about the process of warrant approval, which is the task force's focus, they are upset about the existence of no-knock warrants.
 
2020-09-23 2:15:50 PM  
Question about how the one witness who claimed the police knocked was upstairs, while the neighbors who were on the same floor did not hear any announcement
 
2020-09-23 2:16:07 PM  
This presser sucks.
 
2020-09-23 2:16:33 PM  

King Something: Good job on the sound crew. The press are almost completely inaudible.

thatsthejoke.jpg


Mumble, mumble, not responsible, mumble mumble, acted according to established department procedures, mumble mumble, investigated ourselves and all evidence does not conflict wit...mumble mumble, sucks to be black.
 
2020-09-23 2:18:16 PM  
Oh, so gracious of you to not "farm out the case".  Which boot do you want licked first?
 
2020-09-23 2:19:12 PM  
Questioning people as recently as this past Friday.

For a Grand Jury hearing.
 
2020-09-23 2:19:50 PM  
"Didn't want to rush it"

rushed to charge her boyfriend
 
2020-09-23 2:20:23 PM  

Markoff_Cheney: This presser country sucks.


ftfy
 
2020-09-23 2:23:19 PM  
Asking why manslaughter or other homicide charges were not considered
 
2020-09-23 2:23:26 PM  
So what I'm hearing is... police have no responsibility to meaningfully announce themselves before breaking into your house guns blazing and you have no right to defend yourself.

We said we knocked, you can't prove we didn't, so killing sleeping people in their own homes is not a crime.
 
2020-09-23 2:25:30 PM  

hodgemann: RyansPrivates: hodgemann: Oh, he's forming a task force to look into the system that approves warrants.  I'm sure they will write a vigorous and stern letter.

It's funny he thinks that means a goddamn thing. People aren't upset about the warrant, they are upset about the killing. What a f|_|ckwit

Well, they aren't upset about the process of warrant approval, which is the task force's focus, they are upset about the existence of no-knock warrants.


I understand, but the reason people are upset is Breonna Taylor was shot and killed. If a no knock warrant were executed without the murdering part, this would be a different case. No knock warrants are bad. Killing innocent people is worse. Using a no knock warrant as the method to deliver murder should be unconscionable.
 
2020-09-23 2:28:37 PM  
The Grand Jury heard "everything they needed to hear"
 
2020-09-23 2:29:48 PM  
I'm sorry, but it needs to be law that all cops must have body cams that are turned on when on duty.  No exceptions.  If they aren't on and something happens then they are fired and on their own legally as a start.
 
2020-09-23 2:31:28 PM  
Asking how the boyfriend wasn't hit but Breonna Taylor was hit a bunch of times
 
2020-09-23 2:32:25 PM  
I don't want to get into the specifics? You had better get into the specifics and right quick.
 
2020-09-23 2:32:37 PM  

King Something: Asking how the boyfriend wasn't hit but Breonna Taylor was hit a bunch of times


That is something I've been wondering, too.
 
2020-09-23 2:33:16 PM  
What standard / rule prevents you from releasing the racial / gendered makeup of the grand jury?

"We might be able to, I need to confirm on that." Eventually says that he thinks it's a bad idea.
 
2020-09-23 2:33:34 PM  
2 more
 
2020-09-23 2:34:18 PM  
Again with the "ooga booga outsiders" thing
 
2020-09-23 2:35:56 PM  

OldRod: I am not a gun guy... how many rounds do these handguns hold?  Can that one officer fire 16 times without reloading?


Twelve or thirteen usually, if they are using the standard clip for the .40
 
2020-09-23 2:36:31 PM  
No knock/night raids worked so well for the US military in Iraq.
 
2020-09-23 2:37:09 PM  
Won't say how long they waited after the knock.
 
2020-09-23 2:37:52 PM  
Sadly things are never going to change now that the GOP will own the SCOTUS.  It's SNAFU for the USA.
 
2020-09-23 2:38:23 PM  

SumJackass07: Won't say how long they waited after the knock.


I'm assuming that it was about (-0.2) second

/The Bible™
 
2020-09-23 2:38:34 PM  
Farking hell, he brought up the wholly babble.
 
2020-09-23 2:39:13 PM  

mrshowrules: 3 counts: all have to do with just one officer


well, I guess they found the 'bad apple' and if they get rid of him then everythings all good now, right?
 
2020-09-23 2:39:16 PM  

SumJackass07: Won't say how long they waited after the knock.


About the same amount of time the cops gave Tamir Rice.
 
2020-09-23 2:39:23 PM  

King Something: Asking how the boyfriend wasn't hit but Breonna Taylor was hit a bunch of times


Firing blind and wildly, basically.

Those apartments are obviously built out of the fairly modern materials since the 80s... and the walls are not stopping (or deflecting) a fast forty caliber round (or the slower forty-four/forty-five).  Those rounds (and the 10) just flat going through anything.  And whereever they are firing, those rounds are going through.

So, yes.  The sound bounced, they fired, and Taylor caught the majority of where they were firing.
 
2020-09-23 2:39:39 PM  
Breonna Taylor would want you to stay peaceful, I assume, I didn't know her and she's dead now, but In her name let me say...
 
2020-09-23 2:39:56 PM  

King Something: Asking how the boyfriend wasn't hit but Breonna Taylor was hit a bunch of times


she resembled fred hampton...?
 
2020-09-23 2:40:10 PM  
Report on this in a "responsible" manner.

read:don't badmouth the cops or the AG or else


/ende
 
2020-09-23 2:40:33 PM  
Why didn't the initial staff who made the mistake regarding the incorrect address face penalties as well (at least)?
 
2020-09-23 2:42:20 PM  

King Something: Police report and one anonymous witness claim that the cops knocked, and fired in self defense.

Other witnesses claim otherwise.

Police body cam supporting their version of events is curiously non-existent.


I used to live in apartments like that. 
I encourage anyone to go into a room on the same floor as your front door (If you live in a split-level you're just screwed anyway.)
Have someone else yell from outside 10 random words and see if you can make out any of them. 
Then try it while reading, then with a tv on, and/or with the bedroom door shut. 

It doesn't matter what the cops announced. No way you'd have any idea who was kicking in the door.
 
2020-09-23 2:42:36 PM  
Oh god, the WKYT lady just farked up the shot count and reiterated outside agitators.
 
2020-09-23 2:42:59 PM  

RyansPrivates: King Something: Asking how the boyfriend wasn't hit but Breonna Taylor was hit a bunch of times

That is something I've been wondering, too.


Because cops almost never hit what they're shooting at.
 
2020-09-23 2:42:59 PM  
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2020-09-23 2:48:40 PM  

thehobbes: Eli WhiskeyDik: RIP Louisville

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Guns are so 2019.

You can do better. Spread some 155mm love.


The Army took that from me when I retired. Bastards.
 
2020-09-23 2:51:02 PM  

Marbleisheavy: So Louisville just formally approved police to enter and shoot up residences unannounced with the only consequence being if they shoot *other* residences?


Absolutely not.

They have to present a shoddy case based upon false information to a judge first before they may do so.
 
2020-09-23 2:51:21 PM  

jso2897: Look - maybe my logic is off - but in a country that has a second amendment and where people have the right to arm and protect themselves, I don't see how we can allow "no-knock" warrants to be served excepting with an understanding that those who choose to do so will do so at their own risk, not be indemnified against the consequences.
These guys broke into an innocent citizen's home, unannounced and with guns out - and people got shot.
That can't be on anybody but them. If it is, then your precious Second Amendment means nothing, and your right to bear arms can be cancelled by any trigger happy nimrod with a badge.
And if the authorities aren't willing to accept that level of responsibility, they need to stop issuing no knock warrants.


Oh, didn't you see? Some lawyer claims they knocked and announced themselves. I'm sure there's proof of that and it's not an obvious lie being lent the benefit of the doubt by a compromised court system.
 
2020-09-23 2:52:33 PM  

Eli WhiskeyDik: thehobbes: Eli WhiskeyDik: RIP Louisville

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Guns are so 2019.

You can do better. Spread some 155mm love.

The Army took that from me when I retired. Bastards.


Not the Army's fault you considered a howitzer your personal defense device.  It was a 105mm for goodness' sake.
 
2020-09-23 3:00:17 PM  
VOTE FIRST.  Then repair the damage caused by Trump, the GOP, the police, and their white supremacist friends.

Violence and looting will only play into the political games of these farkers. FOR NOW.

Save your anger and violence for our dark future after Trump tries to declare himself God-King.
 
2020-09-23 3:03:23 PM  
Let the burning begin.
 
2020-09-23 3:13:03 PM  
BBBFTPFTPKTALGSTODTAYFS!!!!!
 
2020-09-23 3:18:29 PM  

waxbeans: BBBFTPFTPKTALGSTODTAYFS!!!!!


gesundheit
 
2020-09-23 3:20:00 PM  

Myrdinn: Eli WhiskeyDik: thehobbes: Eli WhiskeyDik: RIP Louisville

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Guns are so 2019.

You can do better. Spread some 155mm love.

The Army took that from me when I retired. Bastards.

Not the Army's fault you considered a howitzer your personal defense device.  It was a 105mm for goodness' sake.


Wait, you don't?
 
2020-09-23 3:22:38 PM  

Promo Sapien: Avery614:
If my boss forced me to come into a covid den I would show up like this.
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Dressdown day.

I also enjoy Bioshock 2.


Just in case you're interested....
 
2020-09-23 3:23:45 PM  

Myrdinn: Eli WhiskeyDik: thehobbes: Eli WhiskeyDik: RIP Louisville

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Guns are so 2019.

You can do better. Spread some 155mm love.

The Army took that from me when I retired. Bastards.

Not the Army's fault you considered a howitzer your personal defense device.  It was a 105mm for goodness' sake.


105, 155, 8 inch, 270. Was fortunate enough to have been able to shoot a fire mission on all of them.
 
2020-09-23 3:29:33 PM  

MBooda: [Fark user image 622x401]


Let me just mark this one down as "we'll check back in later" for you...
 
2020-09-23 3:30:56 PM  

aungen: Eli WhiskeyDik: OhioFark: Eli WhiskeyDik: Why would the IL National Guard be on stand by for a possible incident in Kentucky?

They're afraid things might happen in Chicago

Valid point. I didn't think about that.

Things will happen in Chicago no matter which way the verdict goes.  The amplitude is the only thing that will change.


Chicago doesn't even need a reason to kill each other. This just gives them cover to burn and loot. Christmas is coming, don't you know.
 
2020-09-23 3:34:32 PM  

Eli WhiskeyDik: Myrdinn: Eli WhiskeyDik: thehobbes: Eli WhiskeyDik: RIP Louisville

[Fark user image 279x181]

Guns are so 2019.

You can do better. Spread some 155mm love.

The Army took that from me when I retired. Bastards.

Not the Army's fault you considered a howitzer your personal defense device.  It was a 105mm for goodness' sake.

105, 155, 8 inch, 270. Was fortunate enough to have been able to shoot a fire mission on all of them.


If I have to go, I want it to be so fast and overwhelming I don't even know it happened.  Lets do a meteor, or maybe an 18" to the noggin.  Preferably with a high-speed go-pro uploading with very low latency.  America's Funniest Home videos, here I come!
 
2020-09-23 3:34:33 PM  

Eli WhiskeyDik: 105, 155, 8 inch, 270. Was fortunate enough to have been able to shoot a fire mission on all of them.


Now, THAT is a party.
 
2020-09-23 3:36:04 PM  

hodgemann: bionicjoe: eagles95: RyansPrivates: I hope that somehow this tanks Moscow Mitch's re-election campaign. News organizations need to get him on the record as to whether he thinks justice is being served.

In Kentucky? Probably wins by more now.

He's won. 
A local celebrity sports guy has encouraged people to send money to Democrats in tight races, not to McGrath. 

/kinda agree
//state full of morons

Yeah, this state is a bit of a wreck.  The Turtle hasn't been in danger from a KY Dem for as long as I can remember.

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Kentucky Jelly is my favorite thing, ever.
 
2020-09-23 3:37:32 PM  

way south: cameroncrazy1984: I just thought of something. What if they release the bodycam footage and it's actually much worse than what we've been told, and that's why the lockdown?

The lockdown is happening because there's an outrage machine that will cause the city to burn down regardless of what the court outcomes are.
People aren't interested in evidence anymore than the lack of it. They don't want to hear a legal argument. Justice is irrelevant. They want to have a jubilee and it does not matter who is at fault. They'll burn down some low income housing or minority owned businesses just as soon as they'll torch a courthouse.  There's no methodology in a social disaster.

The city can't control the ruling and it knows that it might not even matter. So it must presume there will be a riot and make preparations to cut arrest agitators and protect the public as well as the city itself.
That they're already hurting for manpower just means they'll have to be that much more serious about their preparations.


This, 100 times. It has never been about justice for anyone.
 
2020-09-23 3:40:43 PM  

2dogsrunning: jso2897: Look - maybe my logic is off - but in a country that has a second amendment and where people have the right to arm and protect themselves, I don't see how we can allow "no-knock" warrants to be served excepting with an understanding that those who choose to do so will do so at their own risk, not be indemnified against the consequences.
These guys broke into an innocent citizen's home, unannounced and with guns out - and people got shot.
That can't be on anybody but them. If it is, then your precious Second Amendment means nothing, and your right to bear arms can be cancelled by any trigger happy nimrod with a badge.
And if the authorities aren't willing to accept that level of responsibility, they need to stop issuing no knock warrants.

I'm with you. A venn diagram of Second amendment fanatics and people who think the cops were right seem to be a perfect circle. Yet this is true infringement on second amendment rights if law enforcement can kill you without consequence after showing up unannounced


They were allowed to have guns. Nobody took them.
 
2020-09-23 3:42:01 PM  

Bandito King: jso2897: Look - maybe my logic is off - but in a country that has a second amendment and where people have the right to arm and protect themselves, I don't see how we can allow "no-knock" warrants to be served excepting with an understanding that those who choose to do so will do so at their own risk, not be indemnified against the consequences.
These guys broke into an innocent citizen's home, unannounced and with guns out - and people got shot.
That can't be on anybody but them. If it is, then your precious Second Amendment means nothing, and your right to bear arms can be cancelled by any trigger happy nimrod with a badge.
And if the authorities aren't willing to accept that level of responsibility, they need to stop issuing no knock warrants.

Oh, didn't you see? Some lawyer claims they knocked and announced themselves. I'm sure there's proof of that and it's not an obvious lie being lent the benefit of the doubt by a compromised court system.


If they intended to announce themselves, why would they need a no knock warrant?
 
2020-09-23 3:43:47 PM  

NINEv2: Stratohead: Eli WhiskeyDik: RIP Louisville

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Good luck finding one for sale. I went to Bass Pro over the weekend just to , maybe, pick up some ammo... they had almost no guns of any kind in stock and aside from 30-06 and 12gauge they had no ammo to speak of either.

and the only stuff available on CheaperThanDirt is a bunch of  never heard of them brands, and even that is in short supply ammo wise.

S'why I picked the 30-06. Now if there were just some earthly way for one person to cover all 3 exits...

/didn't quite think that one thru


The good thing with 30-06 ammo is it's pretty much readily available. Built my first AR earlier this year and have watched 5.56 and .223 ammo become scarce as hell and creep up significantly in cost. 

Thankfully 7.62x39 is easier to get and cheaper which I'm sure is making a lot of AK guys feel superior right now. 
/myself included as I just purchased an AK because I've always wanted to be like Ice Cube and not need it today
 
2020-09-23 3:46:41 PM  

2dogsrunning: A venn diagram of Second amendment fanatics and people who think the cops were right seem to be a perfect circle.


Ya think?

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2020-09-23 3:52:35 PM  
And now, the government will circle the wagons and only protect government property and government officers as the riots and looting begin.

Grab your guns, citizens. Government not only has no duty to protect individual citizens, but when the chips are down and shiat is hitting the fan, they'll abandon you in a split second and leave you to rot.
 
2020-09-23 4:19:21 PM  

jso2897: Look - maybe my logic is off - but in a country that has a second amendment and where people have the right to arm and protect themselves, I don't see how we can allow "no-knock" warrants to be served excepting with an understanding that those who choose to do so will do so at their own risk, not be indemnified against the consequences.
These guys broke into an innocent citizen's home, unannounced and with guns out - and people got shot.
That can't be on anybody but them. If it is, then your precious Second Amendment means nothing, and your right to bear arms can be cancelled by any trigger happy nimrod with a badge.
And if the authorities aren't willing to accept that level of responsibility, they need to stop issuing no knock warrants.


It was not a no knock warrant.
 
2020-09-23 5:30:08 PM  
We need a drinking game while watching the excitement.If we drank half a shot each time a natonal news reporter mispronounces Louisville we will all be passed out before the first gas station is burnt down though. Anybody have any suggestions?
 
2020-09-23 5:42:42 PM  

Mrtraveler01: cameroncrazy1984: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: cameroncrazy1984: They'd rather have their city burned to the ground than one of theirs go to jail for a crime they committed.

It's a Grand Jury

The DA is under no obligation to actually present the evidence in such a way as to obtain an indictment

Yep. Same thing happened with the Michael Brown case in Ferguson.


Don't forget O.J.
Of course, we could be adults and realize that overcharging can result in a acquittal.  (Casey Anthony)
Ya morans are arguing for a continued, but equitable drug war.

Also, since the warrant was obtained, the officers may only be liable for the manner in which they executed it.  We can argue for a legal change but that NEVER affects the past.  Again, time to back off the drug war EVEN at the expense of a greater number of victims of overdosing.   Make no mistake, the calls to save the victims of the drugs themselves from the LEFT were just as culpable in the uneven sentencing that got us here.
 
2020-09-23 5:43:28 PM  
My bad. It WAS a no knock warrant, but a witness is saying they announced themselves.
 
2020-09-23 6:03:53 PM  
This is what Rape Culture is.
 
2020-09-23 6:04:10 PM  
Goddamnit how did that post here and not the thread I was just in?
 
2020-09-23 6:07:45 PM  

austerity101: This is what Rape Culture is.



austerity101: Goddamnit how did that post here and not the thread I was just in?


Kind of applies here, too.
 
2020-09-23 11:33:49 PM  

Uncontrolled_Jibe: Make no mistake, the calls to save the victims of the drugs themselves from the LEFT were just as culpable in the uneven sentencing that got us here.


Eat shiat. What the fark is a victim of drug?
 
2020-09-23 11:46:41 PM  

Frederick: Uncontrolled_Jibe: Make no mistake, the calls to save the victims of the drugs themselves from the LEFT were just as culpable in the uneven sentencing that got us here.

Eat shiat. What the fark is a victim of drug?


Quite right. A drug is not a weapon, it's a tool, like a hammer or a screwdriver or an alligator.
 
2020-09-24 1:15:19 PM  
So it turns out the police knocked, Taylor was not in bed but was in the hallway while current boyfriend shot at police.

Also, this:
https://www.wave3.com/2020/08/26/warr​a​nts-issued-arrest-breonna-taylors-ex-b​oyfriend-amid-leaked-new-documents/
 
2020-09-24 2:54:57 PM  

SpaceMonkey-66: They're gonna let them off....

This could have been any of us.  I keep a 12ga shotgun by the bed, I'd be dead based on the facts in this fiasco........


Maybe don't sleep with a gun?

/
Guns are the only reason this lady died.
The cops and the boyfriend both should not have had guns. Should have not used said guns.

Or not? Enjoy getting shot, then
I give up
 
2020-09-24 3:09:13 PM  

imapirate: If I fired a gun into the air here in Louisville, KY, I would be charged with wanton endangerment. That's how much value AG Daniel Cameron placed on Breonna Taylor's life - air.


Well to be fair,
There's a tiny chance her house was being used without her knowledge as a drop off and pick up point.
So obviously it was a good thing that she got shot.
Right?
 
2020-09-24 3:12:41 PM  

King Something: .

Frankly it's a miracle they didn't charge him with murder for the police killing her. Their argument could easily have been that his "felonious" actions (returning fire at intruders who did not announce their presence before opening fire) directly caused the death of someone who had died before he fired his first shot.


And no one sees how telling that is
 
2020-09-24 3:46:03 PM  

OldRod: I am not a gun guy... how many rounds do these handguns hold?  Can that one officer fire 16 times without reloading?


High capacity is a thing. But, most people who actually use guns for real and not play. See those as only for idiots that can't hit the side of a barn.
 
2020-09-24 5:21:35 PM  

Frederick: Uncontrolled_Jibe: Make no mistake, the calls to save the victims of the drugs themselves from the LEFT were just as culpable in the uneven sentencing that got us here.

Eat shiat. What the fark is a victim of drug?


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news​/​look-pictures-dead-girl-former-1082713​3

What dream world do you live in?   The war on crack began because people were dropping like flies.
 
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