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(The New York Times)   "In interviews, a range of officials and private analysts said that Mr. Trump was feeding many of the disinformation campaigns they were struggling to halt"   (nytimes.com) divider line
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2020-09-23 10:58:32 AM  
Why does Trump push the same things Russia does? Total mystery.
 
2020-09-23 11:10:28 AM  
The Presidential Daily Brief these days should consist primarily if not exclusively of reports of how the actions of the highest placed Russian Intelligence asset are furthering foreign interests over the United States. Probably without explicitly naming the asset until the President asks.
 
2020-09-23 11:13:34 AM  
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2020-09-23 2:24:10 PM  
NO FARKING SHIAT!
 
2020-09-23 2:25:20 PM  
There's little paper trail between the Kremlin and Trump, there is however a massive firehose of Kremlin Tweets assaulting Trump's eyeballs.

Twitter needs to ban Trump for the good of national security.
 
2020-09-23 2:26:57 PM  
I mean, this was always a major element: very rarely are Russians orchestrating the lines of attack, they are exploiting existing cracks/divisions in our society and amplifying partisan voices. The problem is Trump has zero concern in what the ramifications of this and is just happy to get a bigger loudspeaker.
 
2020-09-23 2:27:46 PM  

edmo: Why does Trump push the same things Russia does? Total mystery.



In fairness, the Russian disinformation campaigns are designed to target stupid, bigoted, worthless morons. So Trump may not be coordinating with the Ruskies, it's just that he's acting just like any of the other idiots targeted with their info.
 
2020-09-23 2:29:02 PM  

kbronsito: edmo: Why does Trump push the same things Russia does? Total mystery.


In fairness, the Russian disinformation campaigns are designed to target stupid, bigoted, worthless morons. So Trump may not be coordinating with the Ruskies, it's just that he's acting just like any of the other idiots targeted with their info.


Trump is literally a Facebook uncle that somehow became president.
 
2020-09-23 2:31:53 PM  
 
2020-09-23 2:32:39 PM  
 
2020-09-23 2:33:28 PM  

abb3w: The Presidential Daily Brief these days should consist primarily if not exclusively of reports of how the actions of the highest placed Russian Intelligence asset are furthering foreign interests over the United States. Probably without explicitly naming the asset until the President asks.


You have to use his name if you want him to pay attention.
 
2020-09-23 2:34:57 PM  

Grungehamster: I mean, this was always a major element: very rarely are Russians orchestrating the lines of attack, they are exploiting existing cracks/divisions in our society and amplifying partisan voices. The problem is Trump has zero concern in what the ramifications of this and is just happy to get a bigger loudspeaker.


Russian disinfo ops backed Bernie Sanders in 2016 and in 2020. Why, if they're so enamored with Trump being in power?

Because chaos. Because their entire goal is to foment as much as chaos as possible to leave a once-powerful nation on the verge of collapse from infighting.

And the GOP has played right into it because it gives them power and money.

We thought we won the Cold War because we thought it was over. We did not and it was not.
 
2020-09-23 2:39:08 PM  
That's because he's got Russia up the butt.  Who doesn't know this by now?
 
2020-09-23 2:44:26 PM  

edmo: Why does Trump push the same things Russia does? Total mystery.


I'm curious how they get him to remember the talking points and follow instructions. I don't mean from a motivation perspective, I mean methodology.
 
2020-09-23 2:49:33 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: That's because he's got Russia up the butt.  Who doesn't know this by now?


Hard to believe there's any room left with Lindsey  Graham and Mitch McConnel wedged so far up in there.
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On second thought, there's plenty of room for the entire GOP caucus and the Kremlin, too
 
2020-09-23 2:58:27 PM  

Pats_Cloth_Coat: Soup4Bonnie: That's because he's got Russia up the butt.  Who doesn't know this by now?

Hard to believe there's any room left with Lindsey  Graham and Mitch McConnel wedged so far up in there.

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On second thought, there's plenty of room for the entire GOP caucus and the Kremlin, too

I'd say they're imagining this but there's no way Lindsey would prefer it.
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Not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
2020-09-23 2:59:30 PM  
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2020-09-23 3:03:00 PM  

tmyk: Pats_Cloth_Coat: Soup4Bonnie: That's because he's got Russia up the butt.  Who doesn't know this by now?

Hard to believe there's any room left with Lindsey  Graham and Mitch McConnel wedged so far up in there.
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On second thought, there's plenty of room for the entire GOP caucus and the Kremlin, too

I'd say they're imagining this but there's no way Lindsey would prefer it.
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Not that there's anything wrong with that.


how dare you make me look at that MAGA Weeb sh*t with my own two eyes
 
2020-09-23 3:13:05 PM  
<phone rings>
Hey, dipshiat. Putin here.
<excited puppy sounds>
I can hand you the election but I need a favor though
<louder and more excited puppy sounds>
About those bounties, poison, Ukraine and Syria... bury them.
<puppy comes all over mamas rug>
 
2020-09-23 3:15:50 PM  
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2020-09-23 3:27:58 PM  

kbronsito: edmo: Why does Trump push the same things Russia does? Total mystery.


In fairness, the Russian disinformation campaigns are designed to target stupid, bigoted, worthless morons. So Trump may not be coordinating with the Ruskies, it's just that he's acting just like any of the other idiots targeted with their info.


The Senate Intelligence Committee's report explicitly stated that the Trump Campaign both knew about and WELCOMED Russian help. Jokes are fun, but don't lose sight of that.
 
2020-09-23 4:23:09 PM  

BlastYoBoots: kbronsito: edmo: Why does Trump push the same things Russia does? Total mystery.


In fairness, the Russian disinformation campaigns are designed to target stupid, bigoted, worthless morons. So Trump may not be coordinating with the Ruskies, it's just that he's acting just like any of the other idiots targeted with their info.

The Senate Intelligence Committee's report explicitly stated that the Trump Campaign both knew about and WELCOMED Russian help. Jokes are fun, but don't lose sight of that.


The Washington Post
Opinion by
Jennifer Rubin

August 24, 2020 at 7:45 a.m. EDT
Sen. Mark R. Warner (Va.), ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, appeared on television Sunday to discuss the fifth and final volume the committee has published on Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election on behalf of Donald Trump. Keep in mind that this volume was approved 14 to 1 by the committee, including the chairman who oversaw most of the investigation, Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.). Republicans can publicly spin all they like, but the facts are there, nearly unanimously confirmed. The report is replete with damning details of contacts between the Trump campaign (including Roger Stone on the WikiLeaks hack and email dump) and Russian operatives.

Warner explained on "Meet the Press" that there were "unprecedented contacts between Russians and folks on the Trump campaign. The Trump campaign officials welcomed that help." He added, "Maybe one of the most stunning was the level of detail of the then-campaign manager, Paul Manafort, sharing very specific campaign information with a Russian agent." Warner said, "We'll never know what the Russians did with that information. But think about that. A campaign manager sharing with a known Russian agent during the middle of a campaign." That is quite simply collusion.

The suggestion by Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) that no collusion occurred and that the committee report actually proves this (!!) ignores the connection between Manafort and Russian intelligence officer Konstantin Kilimnik, the 2016 meeting at Trump Tower among campaign officials and Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya (who had much closer ties to Russian intelligence than previously was known), Roger Stone's connection to WikiLeaks, and Trump's open invitation to Russia to find Hillary Clinton's emails.

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Trump left the door wide open to foreign influence in U.S. elections. Only the sycophants and dregs are left in the Trump administration. Warner pointed to the departures of respected, independent figures including Daniel Coats as director of national intelligence, acting director of national intelligence Joe Maguire and "both their deputies, to Michael Atkinson." He added, "Trump intel officials who all told the truth about the Russian ongoing investigation ... were all fired because this president and this White House doesn't want to hear the truth."

The final volume has raised real concern about why the findings of the special counsel investigation led by Robert S. Mueller III were less extensive and his conclusions so timid. In fairness, the Senate intelligence report notes that Mueller "successfully secured numerous criminal indictments and convictions. This included indictments of Russian nationals associated with a Russian government-sponsored social media campaign and GRU [Russian intelligence] personnel who hacked into the DNC and other related targets." The Senate report continues that the special counsel's investigation "also secured convictions of Paul Manafort and Rick Gates," the former leaders of Trump's campaign, "for activity stemming from their work in Ukraine, as well as numerous other convictions related to conduct which criminally misled or obstructed investigations into Russian election interference. This latter category included convictions of Roger Stone, Michael Cohen, and Michael Flynn." As for the final batch, referring to the convictions of Trump's associate Stone; his former personal lawyer, Cohen; and his first national security adviser, Flynn, the Senate report said: "These criminal cases, prosecuted while under immense public and political scrutiny, brought to light significant criminal conduct."

However, attempting to squeeze the facts concerning Trump's betrayal of our democracy into a criminal law context was perhaps unwise from the start. (The criminality, to the extent it existed, is found in the obstruction findings Mueller produced.) It is telling that in its recommendations the intelligence committee urged: "Campaigns should notify FBI of all foreign offers of assistance, and all staff should be made aware of this expectation. In order to not encourage, or amplify, foreign influence efforts, campaigns should reject the use of foreign origin material, especially if it has potentially been obtained though the violation of U.S. law." Currently, there is no legal obligation to do this.

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Trump's campaign was the only one in U.S. history to be so heavily courted by a foreign power. The Trump team's great sin is that it welcomed Russia's efforts. In the Ukraine scandal, Trump sought out foreign help. Republicans' constitutional and moral failure was in refusing to object and even giving Trump cover to let foreigners manipulate our elections. Voters can render their verdict in November and decide whether our country would do better with patriots who would rebuff, report and expose such conduct.

No other major-party presidential candidate in history, I would argue, would ever contemplate selling out our democracy and letting a foreign power dictate the course of U.S. elections. The lesson from Trump's betrayal may be that we cannot assume decent and honorable conduct by presidential contenders. We may need a law to prevent future Trumps from selling American democracy down the river.
 
2020-09-23 4:47:14 PM  

The Iconoclast: The Washington Post
Opinion by
Jennifer Rubin


Holy shiat did I hastily link a JENNIFER RUBIN article without paying attention?!???!??

...I mean the article's fine, but.  Ouch.  My pride.

It's really weird how in the past couple years she just STOPPED LYING for Mitt Romney.  She might be writing technically-true articles now (and this is one of them) but I try not to give her props or signal-boost them; I don't think she deserves to be given any credibility given how she sold her soul for years.  Her articles back then were NAUSEATINGLY disingenuous and repeated Romney-campaign lies verbatim.
 
2020-09-23 4:59:03 PM  
Two things you have to give The Donald: he knows good BS when he sees it, and he knows how to use it.
 
2020-09-23 5:56:54 PM  

The Iconoclast: BlastYoBoots: kbronsito: edmo: Why does Trump push the same things Russia does? Total mystery.


In fairness, the Russian disinformation campaigns are designed to target stupid, bigoted, worthless morons. So Trump may not be coordinating with the Ruskies, it's just that he's acting just like any of the other idiots targeted with their info.

The Senate Intelligence Committee's report explicitly stated that the Trump Campaign both knew about and WELCOMED Russian help. Jokes are fun, but don't lose sight of that.

The Washington Post
Opinion by
Jennifer Rubin

August 24, 2020 at 7:45 a.m. EDT
Sen. Mark R. Warner (Va.), ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, appeared on television Sunday to discuss the fifth and final volume the committee has published on Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election on behalf of Donald Trump. Keep in mind that this volume was approved 14 to 1 by the committee, including the chairman who oversaw most of the investigation, Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.). Republicans can publicly spin all they like, but the facts are there, nearly unanimously confirmed. The report is replete with damning details of contacts between the Trump campaign (including Roger Stone on the WikiLeaks hack and email dump) and Russian operatives.

Warner explained on "Meet the Press" that there were "unprecedented contacts between Russians and folks on the Trump campaign. The Trump campaign officials welcomed that help." He added, "Maybe one of the most stunning was the level of detail of the then-campaign manager, Paul Manafort, sharing very specific campaign information with a Russian agent." Warner said, "We'll never know what the Russians did with that information. But think about that. A campaign manager sharing with a known Russian agent during the middle of a campaign." That is quite simply collusion.

The suggestion by Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) that no collusion occurred and that the committee report actually proves this (!!) ignores the connect ...


Your point being?     (insert sarcasm here)
 
2020-09-23 5:57:46 PM  

sgarri7777: Your point being?


They were quoting the article I linked because Wapo is paywalled for those of us who don't have Javascript disabled on it.
 
2020-09-23 6:57:59 PM  

sgarri7777: The Iconoclast: BlastYoBoots: kbronsito: edmo: Why does Trump push the same things Russia does? Total mystery.


In fairness, the Russian disinformation campaigns are designed to target stupid, bigoted, worthless morons. So Trump may not be coordinating with the Ruskies, it's just that he's acting just like any of the other idiots targeted with their info.

The Senate Intelligence Committee's report explicitly stated that the Trump Campaign both knew about and WELCOMED Russian help. Jokes are fun, but don't lose sight of that.

The Washington Post
Opinion by
Jennifer Rubin

August 24, 2020 at 7:45 a.m. EDT
Sen. Mark R. Warner (Va.), ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, appeared on television Sunday to discuss the fifth and final volume the committee has published on Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election on behalf of Donald Trump. Keep in mind that this volume was approved 14 to 1 by the committee, including the chairman who oversaw most of the investigation, Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.). Republicans can publicly spin all they like, but the facts are there, nearly unanimously confirmed. The report is replete with damning details of contacts between the Trump campaign (including Roger Stone on the WikiLeaks hack and email dump) and Russian operatives.

Warner explained on "Meet the Press" that there were "unprecedented contacts between Russians and folks on the Trump campaign. The Trump campaign officials welcomed that help." He added, "Maybe one of the most stunning was the level of detail of the then-campaign manager, Paul Manafort, sharing very specific campaign information with a Russian agent." Warner said, "We'll never know what the Russians did with that information. But think about that. A campaign manager sharing with a known Russian agent during the middle of a campaign." That is quite simply collusion.

The suggestion by Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) that no collusion occurred and that the committee report actually proves this (!!) ignores the connect ...

Your point being?     (insert sarcasm here)


Well scotty ma'boy, I just wanted to help you get past the pay wall.
 
2020-09-24 1:38:18 PM  
I meant it's just business as usual.
 
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