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2020-09-22 3:34:03 PM  
I've been reading horror stories since I was a little kid. I started with the old Creepy, Eerie and Vamperilla magazines. Then I advanced to the classics of Poe, Lovecraft, Ambrose Pierce and so on in junior high.

Compared to those stories, Stephen King and so many others, this COVID-19 pandemic remains a cakewalk.
 
2020-09-22 4:04:36 PM  
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2020-09-22 4:41:33 PM  
Stephen King.  Frank Herbert.  Robert Anton Wilson.  Even Robert Heinlein.

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"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics. This is equally true whether the faith is Communism or Holy-Rollerism; indeed it is the bounden duty of the faithful to do so. The custodians of the True Faith cannot logically admit tolerance of heresy to be a virtue."
 
2020-09-22 4:44:46 PM  
Everyone that watched the movie Contagion when it came out back in the day has been 0% surprised by any of this.  It. Nailed. Everything.
 
2020-09-22 4:45:39 PM  

bughunter: Stephen King.  Frank Herbert.  Robert Anton Wilson.  Even Robert Heinlein.

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"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics. This is equally true whether the faith is Communism or Holy-Rollerism; indeed it is the bounden duty of the faithful to do so. The custodians of the True Faith cannot logically admit tolerance of heresy to be a virtue."


Bring it!
Fake a conversion, infiltrate the ranks and take 'em out from the inside.
 
2020-09-22 4:47:03 PM  
This is why i think the zombie genre has fallen way off in the last decade. 

For me, the intrigue was less about the fact of dead bodies walking around, and more just the concept of an apocalypse.  Where will you go, where will you hide, what will you stockpile, what is safe, how will you treat the impending hoardes, both live and dead?   To me, those life and death choices are more terrifying than the zombie who wants to eat your brains.  And many zombie films ignore it.

The article also mentions alien invasions.  This is why i love Spielberg's War of the World.  It captures the absolute chaos of an apocalypse, and the forthcoming decisions that are required to survive.
 
2020-09-22 4:48:21 PM  
Every day is not terrifying.

Get a grip.
 
2020-09-22 4:52:02 PM  
Sci Fi readers as well.

This was well predicted.
 
2020-09-22 4:53:08 PM  
I was eleven years old when I read my first King novel. I will never forget it. 'Salem's Lot'. Then, 'The Shining', and it was on from there. He will be remembered as one of the literary giants of our time. HUGE fan right here.

/I agree... compared to the image of Christine roaring to life or Cujo ripping at the door... just not too worried yet
//yeah yeah... they were fantasies, but King also included plenty of social observation that was spot on then and is spot on now...
///his wisdom is under appreciated in my book... Kingfucius?
 
2020-09-22 4:53:34 PM  
Everything I needed to know about 2020 I learned from The Stand. Stephen King prepared me for the Captain Trump's virus and Randall Flab in the White House. All I'm waiting for now is Don Jr. to come riding up in a golf cart with a nuke in a wagon going "My life for you Daddy!" at which the hand of God will come down and end all our suffering.
 
2020-09-22 4:55:15 PM  
I had recently rewatched The Stand (the 1994 miniseries) when this hit. Was considering re-reading the book for the first time in a long while.

I did not.

/holy fark do I still remember chapter 22
 
2020-09-22 4:56:19 PM  
A bunch of friends and I watched the original "The Stand" miniseries the weekend before Covid came on the news.

We made a lot of "Don't Rear The Reaper" jokes the first couple weeks.
 
2020-09-22 4:56:39 PM  
Horror films are a good way to unwind nowadays. You can just look at 'em and enjoy how tame most of them are.
 
2020-09-22 4:57:07 PM  
Domesticated primates are always finding and denouncing "no-good shiats" among themselves.  One century it may be adolescents who masturbate, another century it may be ideologists of some new politics, a third century it may be those who smoke the wrong herbs.  Right now, in Unistat, it was Twinkie-eaters.

Twinkies had originally been denounced by Furbish Lousewart, leader of the People's Ecology Party, but Lousewart denounced so many things that Twinkies did not suffer particularly from his anathemas.  But then, in San Francisco in 1979, a primate named Dan White, who had shot and killed two other primates, hired a particularly clever lawyer to defend him.  The lawyer claimed in court, and succeeded in convincing the jury, that White had been temporarily insane due to over-indulgence in Twinkies.

Primate journalists, who have an instinct for ideas that will spook the primate herd, immediately began publicising the dangers of Twinkies.  Many accounts of the White murders were printed in lurid tabloids, describing how the Twinkie-maddened primate had murdered Mayor George Moscone and then, still gripped by the influence of the high sugar content in the confectionery, lurched wildly down the hall to murder Supervisor Harvey Milk.  Within two years, seventeen defendants in other parts of Unistat had been acquitted or given diminished sentences due to the Twinkie Plea.

By then Twinkies were outlawed in fourteen states and Congressional legislation against Twinkies was pending.


-Robert Anton Wilson, Schrödinger's Cat II: The Trick Top Hat (1979)
 
2020-09-22 5:01:04 PM  
I haven't seen a horror movie that's as scary as the real world.

Maybe The Fly when I was seven.
 
2020-09-22 5:02:13 PM  
Bumpty bumpty bump

Trumpt Trumpty Trump

Same tune. Different performer,
 
2020-09-22 5:02:24 PM  

bughunter: Domesticated primates are always finding and denouncing "no-good shiats" among themselves.  One century it may be adolescents who masturbate, another century it may be ideologists of some new politics, a third century it may be those who smoke the wrong herbs.  Right now, in Unistat, it was Twinkie-eaters.

Twinkies had originally been denounced by Furbish Lousewart, leader of the People's Ecology Party, but Lousewart denounced so many things that Twinkies did not suffer particularly from his anathemas.  But then, in San Francisco in 1979, a primate named Dan White, who had shot and killed two other primates, hired a particularly clever lawyer to defend him.  The lawyer claimed in court, and succeeded in convincing the jury, that White had been temporarily insane due to over-indulgence in Twinkies.

Primate journalists, who have an instinct for ideas that will spook the primate herd, immediately began publicising the dangers of Twinkies.  Many accounts of the White murders were printed in lurid tabloids, describing how the Twinkie-maddened primate had murdered Mayor George Moscone and then, still gripped by the influence of the high sugar content in the confectionery, lurched wildly down the hall to murder Supervisor Harvey Milk.  Within two years, seventeen defendants in other parts of Unistat had been acquitted or given diminished sentences due to the Twinkie Plea.

By then Twinkies were outlawed in fourteen states and Congressional legislation against Twinkies was pending.

-Robert Anton Wilson, Schrödinger's Cat II: The Trick Top Hat (1979)


Reading anything by Wilson is a farking chore. He might have been considered funny and bright in the 70s, but he wasn't the first, or the best, and people have been doing that style much better since. The Illuminatus Trilogy was the biggest waste of reading time since Crichton's "Sphere".
 
2020-09-22 5:03:14 PM  
Dystopian science fiction is helpful, whether the darker sort which provides catharsis or the blue sky dystopia that offers an illusion of hope.
 
2020-09-22 5:04:44 PM  

gunther_bumpass: bughunter: Domesticated primates are always finding and denouncing "no-good shiats" among themselves.  One century it may be adolescents who masturbate, another century it may be ideologists of some new politics, a third century it may be those who smoke the wrong herbs.  Right now, in Unistat, it was Twinkie-eaters.

Twinkies had originally been denounced by Furbish Lousewart, leader of the People's Ecology Party, but Lousewart denounced so many things that Twinkies did not suffer particularly from his anathemas.  But then, in San Francisco in 1979, a primate named Dan White, who had shot and killed two other primates, hired a particularly clever lawyer to defend him.  The lawyer claimed in court, and succeeded in convincing the jury, that White had been temporarily insane due to over-indulgence in Twinkies.

Primate journalists, who have an instinct for ideas that will spook the primate herd, immediately began publicising the dangers of Twinkies.  Many accounts of the White murders were printed in lurid tabloids, describing how the Twinkie-maddened primate had murdered Mayor George Moscone and then, still gripped by the influence of the high sugar content in the confectionery, lurched wildly down the hall to murder Supervisor Harvey Milk.  Within two years, seventeen defendants in other parts of Unistat had been acquitted or given diminished sentences due to the Twinkie Plea.

By then Twinkies were outlawed in fourteen states and Congressional legislation against Twinkies was pending.

-Robert Anton Wilson, Schrödinger's Cat II: The Trick Top Hat (1979)

Reading anything by Wilson is a farking chore. He might have been considered funny and bright in the 70s, but he wasn't the first, or the best, and people have been doing that style much better since. The Illuminatus Trilogy was the biggest waste of reading time since Crichton's "Sphere".


More cannabis helps.
 
2020-09-22 5:13:27 PM  
The last movie I saw in the theater before the pandemic hit was The Color Out of Space.

So far, reality is only slightly less disturbing than that film.
 
2020-09-22 5:15:26 PM  
I was really hoping for demon apocalypse, personally.

This plexiglass and six feet nonsense is just boring.

I'll have my succubus army some day.

/more rum
//a mad max is fine too
///cthulu also dope
 
2020-09-22 5:16:59 PM  
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2020-09-22 5:19:09 PM  

T.rex: This is why i think the zombie genre has fallen way off in the last decade. 

For me, the intrigue was less about the fact of dead bodies walking around, and more just the concept of an apocalypse.  Where will you go, where will you hide, what will you stockpile, what is safe, how will you treat the impending hoardes, both live and dead?   To me, those life and death choices are more terrifying than the zombie who wants to eat your brains.  And many zombie films ignore it.

The article also mentions alien invasions.  This is why i love Spielberg's War of the World.  It captures the absolute chaos of an apocalypse, and the forthcoming decisions that are required to survive.


War of the worlds?

Consider reading the book or listening to the radio play. Or the rock musical.

The Movie was hot garbage in comparison
 
2020-09-22 5:19:26 PM  

bughunter: gunther_bumpass: bughunter: Domesticated primates are always finding and denouncing "no-good shiats" among themselves.  One century it may be adolescents who masturbate, another century it may be ideologists of some new politics, a third century it may be those who smoke the wrong herbs.  Right now, in Unistat, it was Twinkie-eaters.

Twinkies had originally been denounced by Furbish Lousewart, leader of the People's Ecology Party, but Lousewart denounced so many things that Twinkies did not suffer particularly from his anathemas.  But then, in San Francisco in 1979, a primate named Dan White, who had shot and killed two other primates, hired a particularly clever lawyer to defend him.  The lawyer claimed in court, and succeeded in convincing the jury, that White had been temporarily insane due to over-indulgence in Twinkies.

Primate journalists, who have an instinct for ideas that will spook the primate herd, immediately began publicising the dangers of Twinkies.  Many accounts of the White murders were printed in lurid tabloids, describing how the Twinkie-maddened primate had murdered Mayor George Moscone and then, still gripped by the influence of the high sugar content in the confectionery, lurched wildly down the hall to murder Supervisor Harvey Milk.  Within two years, seventeen defendants in other parts of Unistat had been acquitted or given diminished sentences due to the Twinkie Plea.

By then Twinkies were outlawed in fourteen states and Congressional legislation against Twinkies was pending.

-Robert Anton Wilson, Schrödinger's Cat II: The Trick Top Hat (1979)

Reading anything by Wilson is a farking chore. He might have been considered funny and bright in the 70s, but he wasn't the first, or the best, and people have been doing that style much better since. The Illuminatus Trilogy was the biggest waste of reading time since Crichton's "Sphere".

More cannabis helps.


He's Thomas Pynchon for people who aren't smart enough to be considered pretentious.
 
2020-09-22 5:19:31 PM  
gunther_bumpass:

Reading<fnord> anything by Wilson is a farking<fnord> chore. He might have been considered funny and bright in the 70s, but he wasn't<fnord> the first, or the best, and people<fnord> have been doing that style much better since. The Illuminatus Trilogy was the<fnord> biggest waste of reading time since Crichton's "Sphere"<fnord>.
 
2020-09-22 5:25:20 PM  

Stupid Guitar: gunther_bumpass:

Reading<fnord> anything by Wilson is a farking<fnord> chore. He might have been considered funny and bright in the 70s, but he wasn't<fnord> the first, or the best, and people<fnord> have been doing that style much better since. The Illuminatus Trilogy was the<fnord> biggest waste of reading time since Crichton's "Sphere"<fnord>.


Exactly.

800 pages of a stale Monty Python routine.

Which, when I think about it, pretty much sums up Fark.

Cop math dog steak Weird Al lol.
 
2020-09-22 5:31:57 PM  
I'm a horror fan, and I don't think I'll be able to relax until we're past the election.
 
2020-09-22 5:51:54 PM  
Heeeere's Trumpy!

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2020-09-22 5:54:43 PM  
Being a fan of KMFDM gave me a good idea of what to expect and being a fan of George Carlin made me realize I should only worry about keeping my own wits about me because of the "Imagine how stupid the average person is, then just try to comprehend the fact that at least half of them are even stupider than that."
 
2020-09-22 6:11:35 PM  
Dunno about Stephen King much, but Clive Barker told me that the monsters will literally assfark us, so the worst is yet to, erm, come.
 
2020-09-22 6:16:17 PM  
I've been rereading The Dead Zone and when I think of King's villain in that book, Greg Stillson, I can't help but wonder what King would have said back when he was writing it, if you told him about Donald Trump and the insane things that not only he gets away with, but that got him elected in the first place. A book that had a character like Trump probably would have gotten rejected by any publisher as being too absurd for readers to take seriously.
 
2020-09-22 6:16:28 PM  
Oh, and A Bit of Fry and Laurie Revelations:

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2020-09-22 6:16:29 PM  

Fireproof: I'm a horror fan, and I don't think I'll be able to relax until we're past the election.


*Glances at TFA*

Ah, it's the pandemic that it makes us better at, not the other assorted horrors of 2020.
 
2020-09-22 7:09:32 PM  
A lot of people are suffering from godawful trauma and despair as they realize there's no brighter future ahead.

I can empathize, at least intellectually. But it's probably a good thing that I love reading about how complex societies collapse. I pretty much figured that I'd live to see Western civilization start declining ever since the oil shocks of the 1970s. I think it's insulated me almost as much as horror fic has for the sources in TFA.
 
2020-09-22 7:44:23 PM  

Stochastic Cow: A lot of people are suffering from godawful trauma and despair as they realize there's no brighter future ahead.
I can empathize, at least intellectually. But it's probably a good thing that I love reading about how complex societies collapse. I pretty much figured that I'd live to see Western civilization start declining ever since the oil shocks of the 1970s. I think it's insulated me almost as much as horror fic has for the sources in TFA.


I dunno, maybe it's more a matter of my own taste in entertainment over the years.  But speaking as a Gen-Xer?

The only really surprising thing about 2020, is that the dystopian vision of 2000 that I grew up with took twenty extra years to get here.

/Hell, even the music we have available to use for the soundtrack isn't that different.
 
2020-09-22 8:19:29 PM  

AngryDragon: Every day is not terrifying.

Get a grip.


I will show you fear in a handful of dust
 
2020-09-22 8:19:44 PM  
"It" was the stupidest book I've ever been turned off by an author's "attempts at writing horror".  It was the worst I ever tried to read.  The book sucked.  I have since evicted it from my mind because it's so dumb but thanks for bringing it up again, like vomit.  That turned me offa King b.s. novels.  I had such dreams of perfection after "The Stand" too!

Anyway, prior to or after that, I don't know which, was Maximum Overdrive.  I saw it with a few of my cousins who were enthusiastic about King stating on national TV "I want to scare the hell out of you."  We were thrilled; "wow!  a scary movie."  We laughed all the way thru that stupid piece of turdiness thought to be film.
 
2020-09-22 8:22:49 PM  
Watching " The Blob " right now so I got this
 
2020-09-22 8:24:37 PM  
on Svengoolie ... forgot the most important part sorry
 
2020-09-22 8:32:35 PM  
You know what else helps you cope with everything that is going on right now?

Being Gen X.

We were so sure that everything would be gone by now in a nuclear firestorm. The fact it is mostly still here is great.

This is nowhere near as bad as we were expecting things to be by now.
 
2020-09-22 8:33:50 PM  
Someone I used to know witnessed a murder outside his house, and he said that he wasn't as freaked out as he would have been if he hadn't seen hardcore shiat on liveleak n such.
 
2020-09-22 8:38:59 PM  

Majin_Buu: Being a fan of KMFDM gave me a good idea of what to expect and being a fan of George Carlin made me realize I should only worry about keeping my own wits about me because of the "Imagine how stupid the average person is, then just try to comprehend the fact that at least half of them are even stupider than that."


KMFDM - "PARADISE"
Youtube t3_SfldSFa0


/NSFW lyrics.
//but this, that, and other literary references upthread with a wiffle ball bat.
///The best part of living in the cyberpunk dystopia I've imagined ever since my childhood is being able to look back a couple of decades - and know that while I'm just as doomed as the rest of my fellow humans, at least I got to see the peak of my civilization and enjoy some of its luxuries before its collapse.
 
2020-09-22 8:41:51 PM  
You've got...the bite!
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Singaia!
 
2020-09-22 8:48:26 PM  

dready zim: We were so sure that everything would be gone by now in a nuclear firestorm. The fact it is mostly still here is great.

This is nowhere near as bad as we were expecting things to be by now.


This. As bad as this timeline is, I got to live 20-30 years longer than I thought I would.

When it all collapses, I still probably die in flames, gunfire, or - far more likely - of some disease that would have been easily-preventable in a technologically-advanced western democracy, but I got to see some pretty cool shiat before it all fell apart.

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perfect world Matrix
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And as soon as we let the algorithms decide for us what sorts of content the userbase found most engaging the users really wanted, it ceased to be our civilization, which, of course, is what this isa bout.
 
2020-09-22 9:06:12 PM  
As all of the COVID crap has been hitting the fan, it has really helped me to get a small sci-fi novel outlined in my head. Like, it's almost writing its self, which is really cool. Almost ready to get the first rough draft started.
 
2020-09-22 9:06:38 PM  

T.rex: This is why i think the zombie genre has fallen way off in the last decade. 

For me, the intrigue was less about the fact of dead bodies walking around, and more just the concept of an apocalypse.  Where will you go, where will you hide, what will you stockpile, what is safe, how will you treat the impending hoardes, both live and dead?   To me, those life and death choices are more terrifying than the zombie who wants to eat your brains.  And many zombie films ignore it.

The article also mentions alien invasions.  This is why i love Spielberg's War of the World.  It captures the absolute chaos of an apocalypse, and the forthcoming decisions that are required to survive.


Well the good zombie movies were more about the human struggle to survive and the horrors we're capable of inflicting on ourselves.  The zombies were more of a framing device.

The way this year is going I'm just waiting for the creepy guy to show up and tell us he'll go away if we give him what he wants.
 
2020-09-22 9:37:07 PM  
I recently read a short story by Stephen King which was about the world inexplicably falling apart. The climate was going to hell, internet went down randomly, bridges collapsed, that sort of thing. I won't spoil the cause, but I think about that story often. The world really feels like that nowadays.

It's in a collection of stories called "If It Bleeds", in case anyone is interested.
 
2020-09-22 9:40:52 PM  

dready zim: You know what else helps you cope with everything that is going on right now?

Being Gen X.

We were so sure that everything would be gone by now in a nuclear firestorm. The fact it is mostly still here is great.

This is nowhere near as bad as we were expecting things to be by now.


Gen Xer here. So that's supposed to make us feel better given our life expectancies now?

I'm not feeling too good knowing that we still could have it so much worse and then....living in to our nineties with it.

Or living in to our nineties still not seeing the worst yet....
 
2020-09-22 10:33:44 PM  

Fireproof: I'm a horror fan, and I don't think I'll be able to relax until we're past the election.


We need to get past Inauguration Day before we can relax.
 
2020-09-22 11:57:22 PM  
Currently watching tonight's 61 Days of Horror film on Shudder, so I'm getting a kick...
 
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