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2020-09-22 1:39:27 PM  
It's a damn cult.
 
2020-09-22 2:01:51 PM  
Huh.  I guess it actually is an instruction manual.

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2020-09-22 2:06:04 PM  
here are some "fun" reads:

THE CULT OF PRAISE

CHARISMATIC COVENANT COMMUNITY: A FAILED PROMISE

I Grew Up in a Bible Cult and It Ruined Our Family

People of Praise -Marks of a Christian Cult


this woman isn't "just a catholic". and that MATTERS.


and finally, if you missed it in my other posts on her threads:

barrett may be a brilliant woman and an honest legal scholar and practitioner, but make no mistake she herself said:

"I'm just going to identify one way in which I hope that you, as graduates of Notre Dame, will fulfill the promise of being a different kind of lawyer. And that is this: that you will always keep in mind that your legal career is but a means to an end, and as Father Jenkins told you this morning, that end is building the kingdom of God."

Associate Professor Amy Coney Barrett, Diploma Ceremony Address

this woman believes with her whole heart she is on a mission from god. do you think for one second she will let "legal precedent" have more impact on her decisions than reshaping america to be more "godly"?

she's respected. she's smart, she's female, she's conventionally attractive, she's only 48 years old, and she is DANGEROUS to every single american who wishes NOT to live under a theocracy.
 
2020-09-22 2:14:04 PM  
Sounds like by her cult sect's own dogma she shouldn't be a judge...at least not one allowed to pass judgement on men.
 
2020-09-22 2:16:50 PM  
You would have to be a complete moron to expose someone like that to a Judicial Committee grilling.

I can't wait.
 
2020-09-22 2:19:22 PM  
While Atwood has not elaborated on which sect she was referring to, a New Yorker profile of the author in 2017 mentions that in a box of newspaper clippings the author collected while writing the novel, there is "an Associated Press item reported on a Catholic congregation in New Jersey being taken over by a fundamentalist sect in which wives were called 'handmaidens'-a word that Atwood had underlined."

The clipping includes a spokesperson for the People of Hope sect based in Newark, New Jersey saying, "We're all Roman Catholics. We differ in the sense that we are a Charismatic group, which would mean that we have prayer meetings, during which there is raising of hands, singing and speaking in tongues."


This group took up a presence in my grandmother's town:  Stirling, NJ.  Everyone called them Hopies (play on "hippies").  They were...interesting.  Kids all homeschooled.  Women not allowed to talk to anyone without their husbands' permission.  Dressed like the Amish.  Made quite an impression on little sleepy Stirling.
 
2020-09-22 2:21:33 PM  

aaronx: You would have to be a complete moron to expose someone like that to a Judicial Committee grilling.

I can't wait.


If only it mattered.
 
2020-09-22 2:24:14 PM  
Republicans are salivating at the idea that Democrats will get blowback from attacking a candidates sincerely held religious beliefs. There are more blatant "this seems like a really distressing position to take on this issue" angles to come at her than pointing out that her sect is creepy.
 
2020-09-22 2:25:07 PM  
Looks like pretty normal robes to me.

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2020-09-22 2:26:17 PM  

luna1580: here are some "fun" reads:

THE CULT OF PRAISE

CHARISMATIC COVENANT COMMUNITY: A FAILED PROMISE

I Grew Up in a Bible Cult and It Ruined Our Family

People of Praise -Marks of a Christian Cult


this woman isn't "just a catholic". and that MATTERS.


and finally, if you missed it in my other posts on her threads:

barrett may be a brilliant woman and an honest legal scholar and practitioner, but make no mistake she herself said:

"I'm just going to identify one way in which I hope that you, as graduates of Notre Dame, will fulfill the promise of being a different kind of lawyer. And that is this: that you will always keep in mind that your legal career is but a means to an end, and as Father Jenkins told you this morning, that end is building the kingdom of God."

Associate Professor Amy Coney Barrett, Diploma Ceremony Address

this woman believes with her whole heart she is on a mission from god. do you think for one second she will let "legal precedent" have more impact on her decisions than reshaping america to be more "godly"?

she's respected. she's smart, she's female, she's conventionally attractive, she's only 48 years old, and she is DANGEROUS to every single american who wishes NOT to live under a theocracy.


Only 48?! Geez, they really pick 'em young, don't they?

Not that everything else isn't scary enough, but someone that young means she'd be on the bench for at least 30 years. And that's scary.
 
2020-09-22 2:26:21 PM  
Remember after Trump was elected and some of us were saying how we're on the way to Handmaid's Tale times, and some of you told us we were overreacting? Now his potential SC nominee belongs to a cult that inspired the freakin' book. So shut up.
 
2020-09-22 2:27:15 PM  
If her beliefs are that a woman should submit to her husband... Would she be a true justice? Or would the husband's views and opinions set her decisions?

I fail to see how someone who clings to subservience is, in any way, capable, competent or appropriate for an independent judiciary.

And, for the "But Constitution!" people... I don't give a poo what her religious denomination is. I care that she has stated she is not independent. She is, by her own words, going to go with what her husband says. That's the opposite of a nomination's purpose.
 
2020-09-22 2:27:15 PM  

Grungehamster: Republicans are salivating at the idea that Democrats will get blowback from attacking a candidates sincerely held religious beliefs. There are more blatant "this seems like a really distressing position to take on this issue" angles to come at her than pointing out that her sect is creepy.


The Republicans have inflicted irreversible catastrophic damage to the public's perception of religion over the past two decades. Christianity's loudest self-proclaimed champions have all but destroyed their faith.
 
2020-09-22 2:27:18 PM  
She's either going to be the next Supreme Court judge, or it's a door in face tactic and the real one is still awful, but level-8 batshiat rather than level-9.
 
2020-09-22 2:27:43 PM  
A competent opposition party would've made her a big story during her 2017 nomination.  Literally the basis for Handmaid's Tale.  Jesus Christ what a perfect softball before the midterms.

The tears ain't from laughter, but I am laughing.
 
2020-09-22 2:27:50 PM  

aaronx: You would have to be a complete moron to expose someone like that to a Judicial Committee grilling.

I can't wait.


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"My ears are burning!"
 
2020-09-22 2:29:30 PM  
FTFA: "He has also insisted in several interviews that the group is not a cult "

You know how I know that it's a cult?
 
2020-09-22 2:29:31 PM  
Why is her husband letting her out of the house?  Shouldn't she be at home looking after the kids and preparing his dinner?
 
2020-09-22 2:30:51 PM  

JDAT: Looks like pretty normal robes to me.

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Y'know the thing about a conservative judge, she's got... lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eyes.
 
2020-09-22 2:31:22 PM  

Jake Havechek: It's a damn cult.


But enough about the Republicans >.>

/I'm very glad not to have ovaries in this country
 
2020-09-22 2:31:53 PM  

geom_00: FTFA: "He has also insisted in several interviews that the group is not a cult "

You know how I know that it's a cult?


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2020-09-22 2:32:05 PM  
and in case anyone's not down for the "heavy" personal survivor stories i posted above, there's also:

Amy Coney Barrett & People of Praise: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know -Heavy.com

she's from New Orleans, and her membership in this group is multi-generational and all pervasive:

Amy Barrett's dad Mike Coney is a deacon. "She is the eldest of seven children of Deacon Mike Coney, who is a permanent deacon assigned to St. Catherine of Siena Parish in Metairie, and his wife Linda. Amy attended St. Catherine of Siena School and graduated from St. Mary's Dominican High School in 1990," reported The Clarion Herald. Her father is an attorney.

A man named Mike Coney from New Orleans was elected to the People of Praise group's Board of Directors in 2012. It appears from social media postings that Amy Barrett's father and brother are both named Michael Coney. The Mike Coney who was a leader on the board of directors is the older Coney and is married to Linda, which is the name of Amy's mother. You can see his photo here.

Of Barrett's five sisters, at least three are closely involved in the group... Her brother Michael was a "full-time worker" for the group, the site reports, noting that Coney's dad lives on a block with other People of Praise families and her husband's brother, Nathan Barrett, also belongs to the People of Praise. Amy Barrett's mother was previously a "handmaid".
 
2020-09-22 2:32:07 PM  

capt.snicklefritz: aaronx: You would have to be a complete moron to expose someone like that to a Judicial Committee grilling.

I can't wait.

If only it mattered.


Panem et Circe
 
2020-09-22 2:32:46 PM  

someonelse: Remember after Trump was elected and some of us were saying how we're on the way to Handmaid's Tale times, and some of you told us we were overreacting? Now his potential SC nominee belongs to a cult that inspired the freakin' book. So shut up.


Maybe I'm not inspired to vote for the party that completely missed that this lady was literally one of the bad guys in the Handmaid's Tale.  LITERALLY A CHARACTER FROM THE HANDMAID'S TALE. Jesus Christ you guys have to stop sucking so much.
 
2020-09-22 2:33:12 PM  
Someone like Sherod Brown or Sheldon Whitehouse needs to ask her "Will she be making SC rulings, or will her husband?"
 
2020-09-22 2:34:52 PM  

aaronx: You would have to be a complete moron to expose someone like that to a Judicial Committee grilling.

I can't wait.


They confirmed the Keggernaut.
 
2020-09-22 2:35:26 PM  

Almea Tarrant: Sounds like by her cult sect's own dogma she shouldn't be a judge...at least not one allowed to pass judgement on men.


Yeah, how does she square that with telling a MAN he might be guilty of, well, anything? Who is she to judge?
 
2020-09-22 2:35:39 PM  

DrD'isInfotainment: Someone like Sherod Brown or Sheldon Whitehouse needs to ask her "Will she be making SC rulings, or will her husband?"


We need to have a woman ask that question.

Otherwise, the Republicans would clutch their pearls and the "Liberal Media" would dutifully frame it as a misogynist attack.
 
2020-09-22 2:36:12 PM  

JokerMattly: capt.snicklefritz: aaronx: You would have to be a complete moron to expose someone like that to a Judicial Committee grilling.

I can't wait.

If only it mattered.

Panem et Circe


Panem et circenses
 
2020-09-22 2:36:13 PM  
There is no way the dems can stall this is there? Whoever trump picks will most likley be rammed through, cause mcconnel is a dick
 
2020-09-22 2:36:22 PM  

DrD'isInfotainment: Someone like Sherod Brown or Sheldon Whitehouse needs to ask her "Will she be making SC rulings, or will her husband?"


While I agree...Sen Feinstein took a LOT of flack for questioning Barret's faith the last time she was interviewed by the judiciary committee.
 
2020-09-22 2:36:41 PM  

JDAT: Looks like pretty normal robes to me.

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What a compelling defense of her qualifications.

Well, I guess that's a wrap!  Let's close up the thread.
 
2020-09-22 2:36:43 PM  
If she is to be the nominee there are a couple of questions the Dems on the judiciary committee may want to ask themselves.

1.  Does the DNC really want to publicly attack a woman in October?
2.  Does the DNC really want to publicly attack a woman over her Christian faith in October?

Of course not.  But they will.
 
2020-09-22 2:37:31 PM  

geom_00: DrD'isInfotainment: Someone like Sherod Brown or Sheldon Whitehouse needs to ask her "Will she be making SC rulings, or will her husband?"

While I agree...Sen Feinstein took a LOT of flack for questioning Barret's faith the last time she was interviewed by the judiciary committee.


They're betting on it.  One word about her faith and it will be "WAR ON GOD!  WAR ON RELIGION!"
 
2020-09-22 2:37:58 PM  

someonelse: Remember after Trump was elected and some of us were saying how we're on the way to Handmaid's Tale times, and some of you told us we were overreacting? Now his potential SC nominee belongs to a cult that inspired the freakin' book. So shut up.


Yeah, I remember saying the Farkers who were claiming to be stockpiling birth control for when it was imminently going to be banned were crazy.

My face was so red after they banned it.
 
2020-09-22 2:38:14 PM  

aaronx: You would have to be a complete moron to expose someone like that to a Judicial Committee grilling.

I can't wait.


They already committed to confirming her, or whoever it is that Trump appoints. The hearings are mostly for show. Don't get me wrong, a whole lot of farked up shiat is gonna come out. They don't care, because it'll own the libs, which is all they care about. And power for power's sake.
 
2020-09-22 2:38:46 PM  
Did anyone notice that Rmoney said that a vote should be held trump's nom, not that he would vote for her? Maybe he's really planning to rub his nose in it by voting "no" at the last moment.

/I know, I know, he won't
//a guy can dream though, right?
 
2020-09-22 2:39:01 PM  
 
2020-09-22 2:39:21 PM  

JDAT: If she is to be the nominee there are a couple of questions the Dems on the judiciary committee may want to ask themselves.

1.  Does the DNC really want to publicly attack a woman in October?
2.  Does the DNC really want to publicly attack a woman over her Christian faith in October?

Of course not.  But they will.


Yes.  Exploring her qualifications (or lack thereof), her motivations, the direction of her moral compass - totally attacks.
 
2020-09-22 2:39:22 PM  
Don't worry, I'm sure she's played Devils Triangle and boofed with Kavanaugh and Squee and Donkey Dong Doug...she saved the calendars to prove it.

/she likes beer, ok?
//when was the last time you passed out?
 
2020-09-22 2:39:30 PM  
Not to worry, as long as her husband tells her how to rule her opinion can be safely discarded.
 
2020-09-22 2:39:42 PM  

Jake Havechek: It's a damn cult.


I used to roll my eyes when people would write this about Trump/Republicans/conservatives/right wingers.

Now I feel like an idiot. For all that time my attitude was "I don't agree with what they stand for but there's no need for hyperbole" when they the truth was right there all along and the 'it's a cult' people saw it clearly. I imagine people who live in countries where leaders of the dominant religion have taken over are looking at the US now and watching the same kinds of people trying to do the same kind of thing here.
 
2020-09-22 2:40:46 PM  

JDAT: If she is to be the nominee there are a couple of questions the Dems on the judiciary committee may want to ask themselves.

1.  Does the DNC really want to publicly attack a woman in October?
2.  Does the DNC really want to publicly attack a woman over her Christian faith in October?

Of course not.  But they will.


I bet that 'concern' of your's sounded smart in your head.
 
2020-09-22 2:41:22 PM  

ukexpat: JokerMattly: capt.snicklefritz: aaronx: You would have to be a complete moron to expose someone like that to a Judicial Committee grilling.

I can't wait.

If only it mattered.

Panem et Circe

Panem et circenses


damnit, i thought i had it right.
 
2020-09-22 2:42:05 PM  

GoldSpider: I like this idea on replacing lifetime appointments with 18-year terms.


13 member court, 26 years.  Otherwise that gives way too much power to every 2 term President.
 
2020-09-22 2:42:11 PM  

Subtonic: JDAT: If she is to be the nominee there are a couple of questions the Dems on the judiciary committee may want to ask themselves.

1.  Does the DNC really want to publicly attack a woman in October?
2.  Does the DNC really want to publicly attack a woman over her Christian faith in October?

Of course not.  But they will.

I bet that 'concern' of your's sounded smart in your head.


It's not concern.  It's a prediction.
 
2020-09-22 2:43:35 PM  

JDAT: Subtonic: JDAT: If she is to be the nominee there are a couple of questions the Dems on the judiciary committee may want to ask themselves.

1.  Does the DNC really want to publicly attack a woman in October?
2.  Does the DNC really want to publicly attack a woman over her Christian faith in October?

Of course not.  But they will.

I bet that 'concern' of your's sounded smart in your head.

It's not concern.  It's a prediction.


It's nonsense.
 
2020-09-22 2:45:03 PM  

JDAT: Subtonic: JDAT: If she is to be the nominee there are a couple of questions the Dems on the judiciary committee may want to ask themselves.

1.  Does the DNC really want to publicly attack a woman in October?
2.  Does the DNC really want to publicly attack a woman over her Christian faith in October?

Of course not.  But they will.

I bet that 'concern' of your's sounded smart in your head.

It's not concern.  It's a prediction.


You're right. That's exactly how the GOP and Fox will frame any question asked beyond 'why are you so popular'. I'm sure the fact that she's in a cult where women must vow subservience to their husband would make her predecessor beam with pride. The dems would be insane to dare question the values of this obvious feminist icon in the making. Good Christ.
 
2020-09-22 2:46:10 PM  
I almost miss the days when the Pope sent out the Inquisition to deal with heresy like the People of Praise.

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2020-09-22 2:46:52 PM  

JDAT: If she is to be the nominee there are a couple of questions the Dems on the judiciary committee may want to ask themselves.

1.  Does the DNC really want to publicly attack a woman in October?
2.  Does the DNC really want to publicly attack a woman over her Christian faith in October?

Of course not.  But they will.


If you call that looneytunes speaking in tongues crap and being subservient to your husband "christian".
 
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