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(LA Times)   Let's jump into the wayback machine and see how RBG's confirmation process went: "By any measure, she is qualified to become the Supreme Court's ninth justice," Senate Minority Leader Bob Dole (R-Kan.) Final vote: 96-3   (latimes.com) divider line
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2020-09-22 9:30:32 AM  
Scalia got 98-0.

I hated him, but at least he was qualified, which I doubt I will be able to say about whichever knuckle-dragging infant Trump nominates.
 
2020-09-22 10:45:51 AM  

EvilEgg: Scalia got 98-0.

I hated him, but at least he was qualified, which I doubt I will be able to say about whichever knuckle-dragging infant Trump nominates.


I bet you a dollar that this one won't have gambling debts.
 
2020-09-22 1:07:46 PM  
Yes, the sobbing, screaming, foot stomping temper tantrum is very lefty reaction to being told they can't have their way.  Consider their treatment of Bork, Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh, Harriet Myers (okay, that last one warranted the hissy fit).  The point is, left liberals cannot handle reality they don't approve of.  Contrast that to conservative reactions to the nominations of Ginsburg, Kagen and Sotomayor.  We didn't agree with their ideologies, but we understand the rules and respect the outcomes.  The right falls in line, the left falls apart.

/The left also always makes the mistake of over demonizing anyone they oppose to the point that normal people roll their eyes and tune them out.
 
2020-09-22 1:24:24 PM  

Il Douchey: Yes, the sobbing, screaming, foot stomping temper tantrum is very lefty reaction to being told they can't have their way.  Consider their treatment of Bork, Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh, Harriet Myers (okay, that last one warranted the hissy fit).  The point is, left liberals cannot handle reality they don't approve of.  Contrast that to conservative reactions to the nominations of Ginsburg, Kagen and Sotomayor.  We didn't agree with their ideologies, but we understand the rules and respect the outcomes.  The right falls in line, the left falls apart.

/The left also always makes the mistake of over demonizing anyone they oppose to the point that normal people roll their eyes and tune them out.


You did see that Scalia got 98-0?  It was literally two posts above you and two lines long.  I am almost certain that about half of those votes were Democrats.
 
2020-09-22 1:29:10 PM  

Il Douchey: Yes, the sobbing, screaming, foot stomping temper tantrum is very lefty reaction to being told they can't have their way.  Consider their treatment of Bork, Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh, Harriet Myers (okay, that last one warranted the hissy fit).  The point is, left liberals cannot handle reality they don't approve of.  Contrast that to conservative reactions to the nominations of Ginsburg, Kagen and Sotomayor.  We didn't agree with their ideologies, but we understand the rules and respect the outcomes.  The right falls in line, the left falls apart.

/The left also always makes the mistake of over demonizing anyone they oppose to the point that normal people roll their eyes and tune them out.


Bork proved that he would always put himself before the country... Alito, don't like him but fine... Thomas (Anita Hill)... Kavanaugh was about the sexual assault allegations, really. If there was nothing there, even his credit card debt/gambling debt was like meh... Without the tales of sexual assault, he would have had a pretty boring confirmation hearing like Gorsuch.

I did not like Scalia's view of the law at all, but I respected that he was the Conservative POV on cases. Even RBG felt the same way and she even like the man.

I think you paint with a broad brush... The Left is justifiably fired up over this nomination because of the sh*t the GOP pulled with Garland. If they just let Garland get on the bench none of this would be happening. They'd have no leg to stand on about this nomination. But they just had to f*ck with things... Unfortunately they have the power to just slam it through and destroy the entire process and cause the Left to SERIOUSLY consider packing the court. I don't blame them. If Trump puts that crazy b*tch on the court before the election to make America Heaven on Earth, I hope the Democrats pack the f*cking court with the libbiest libs who ever libbed.

I understand that many of the most contentious hearings have been on Conservative Justices. Have you ever considered that many of them were complete assholes? I say that as someone who REALLY hates John Robert's views on corporations in America but can respect that he is a solid jurist. I do not like Alito at all and yet I have no problem with him on the court. Scalia was Scalia... but some of the people they picked... I mean, Bork? Come on now. The man f*cked caved to a President who set the stage for the current asshole we have...

When the Left has a problem with a judge during the process, they tend to pull them and replace them. The Republicans see all the flaws and just rally harder to their side.

That's pretty f*ked up.
 
2020-09-22 1:40:41 PM  
Back when both parties were in it to build and maintain a country.

It's amazing what can happen when right-wing media sabotages the immune system of the country into attacking itself.
 
2020-09-22 2:09:16 PM  
Democrats ARE pure evil! Republicans are very sexy! I am totally arguing this in good faith!
 
2020-09-22 2:10:22 PM  
That will never happen again. Way too partisan. Whoever holds the Senate is the only way forward. If RBG was voted on today, she would max out at 47 despite being qualified.
 
2020-09-22 2:17:53 PM  

Il Douchey: Consider their treatment of Bork, Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh, Harriet Myers


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Poor Robert Bork! His name got dragged through the mud just because of his participation in Nixon's Saturday Night Massacre and his stated desire to roll back the Civil Rights movement, and as a result he got an up-or-down vote in the Senate and was not approved! It's totally not the job of the Senate to prevent terrible people from getting into SCOTUS!
 
2020-09-22 2:18:07 PM  

Il Douchey: Yes, the sobbing, screaming, foot stomping temper tantrum is very lefty reaction to being told they can't have their way.  Consider their treatment of Bork, Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh, Harriet Myers (okay, that last one warranted the hissy fit).  The point is, left liberals cannot handle reality they don't approve of.  Contrast that to conservative reactions to the nominations of Ginsburg, Kagen and Sotomayor.  We didn't agree with their ideologies, but we understand the rules and respect the outcomes.  The right falls in line, the left falls apart.

/The left also always makes the mistake of over demonizing anyone they oppose to the point that normal people roll their eyes and tune them out.


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2020-09-22 2:18:25 PM  
Who were the three who voted against her appointment?
 
2020-09-22 2:18:37 PM  

AsparagusFTW: That will never happen again. Way too partisan. Whoever holds the Senate is the only way forward. If RBG was voted on today, she would max out at 47 despite being qualified.


she wouldn't be voted on today, assuming McConnell still has his turtle ass parked in the Majority Leader's seat.

Politics isn't about government anymore. Hasn't been for years. It's about winning and losing. It's not about helping people anymore, it's entirely about filling the coffers of corporate lobbyists at the expense of literally everyone else.
 
2020-09-22 2:20:02 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: EvilEgg: Scalia got 98-0.

I hated him, but at least he was qualified, which I doubt I will be able to say about whichever knuckle-dragging infant Trump nominates.

I bet you a dollar that this one won't have gambling debts.


"A DEVIL'S TRIANGLE IS TOTALLY AND LEGITIMATE DRINKING GAME AND IS IN FACT NOT A MFM THREESOME!"
 
2020-09-22 2:21:29 PM  

Martian_Astronomer: Poor Robert Bork! His name got dragged through the mud just because of his participation in Nixon's Saturday Night Massacre and his stated desire to roll back the Civil Rights movement, and as a result he got an up-or-down vote in the Senate and was not approved! It's totally not the job of the Senate to prevent terrible people from getting into SCOTUS!


The most enraging farking thing about Bork is his posthumous revelation that Nixon promised him a SCOTUS seat for his part in the Saturday Night Massacre.

Reagan tried to keep Nixon's promise. Tricky Dick never really went away.
 
2020-09-22 2:22:37 PM  

MinatoArisato013: Marcus Aurelius: EvilEgg: Scalia got 98-0.

I hated him, but at least he was qualified, which I doubt I will be able to say about whichever knuckle-dragging infant Trump nominates.

I bet you a dollar that this one won't have gambling debts.

"A DEVIL'S TRIANGLE IS TOTALLY AND LEGITIMATE DRINKING GAME AND IS IN FACT NOT A MFM THREESOME!"


Thanks to that POS Kavanaugh we now have perjury regarding well-known slang terms for two-dude threesomes and anal sex in the Senate's official record.
 
2020-09-22 2:25:54 PM  

Riothamus: Martian_Astronomer: Poor Robert Bork! His name got dragged through the mud just because of his participation in Nixon's Saturday Night Massacre and his stated desire to roll back the Civil Rights movement, and as a result he got an up-or-down vote in the Senate and was not approved! It's totally not the job of the Senate to prevent terrible people from getting into SCOTUS!

The most enraging farking thing about Bork is his posthumous revelation that Nixon promised him a SCOTUS seat for his part in the Saturday Night Massacre.

Reagan tried to keep Nixon's promise. Tricky Dick never really went away.


The Bork affair happened long before I was cognizant of politics so I have to brush up on it every so often, but I've been thinking about it for the last day or so because Lindsay Farking Graham whined about Bork's treatment in his strongly-worded letter yesterday. The dude had some seriously disqualifying things in his profile, and conservatives are still salty about the fact that someone noticed, 33 years later.
 
2020-09-22 2:29:00 PM  
No place for Bob Dole in today's GOP, that's for sure.
 
2020-09-22 2:30:41 PM  

Martian_Astronomer: The Bork affair happened long before I was cognizant of politics so I have to brush up on it every so often, but I've been thinking about it for the last day or so because Lindsay Farking Graham whined about Bork's treatment in his strongly-worded letter yesterday. The dude had some seriously disqualifying things in his profile, and conservatives are still salty about the fact that someone noticed, 33 years later.


They also still preemptively whine about the "race card" after Clarence Thomas self-righteously played it as hard as he could during his nomination hearings. You know, the hearings into his extremely unprofessional sexual harassment of a black woman.

Republicans are scum. Their outrage is and has always been purely performative. They invent reasons to hate people so they can justify their appalling behavior.
 
2020-09-22 2:36:32 PM  

MinatoArisato013: Marcus Aurelius: EvilEgg: Scalia got 98-0.

I hated him, but at least he was qualified, which I doubt I will be able to say about whichever knuckle-dragging infant Trump nominates.

I bet you a dollar that this one won't have gambling debts.

"A DEVIL'S TRIANGLE IS TOTALLY AND LEGITIMATE DRINKING GAME AND IS IN FACT NOT A MFM THREESOME!"


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2020-09-22 2:36:37 PM  
Ever notice that in the last 50 years there are 13 Republican seats and 4 Democratic? All five unanimous approvals were Republican seats.

R - Kavanaugh - 50-48
R - Gorsuch - 54-45
- Garland - blocked by GOP
D - Kagan - 63-37
D - Sotomayor - 68-31
R - Alito - 58-42
- Harriet - withdrawn due to dumpster fire and being unqualified
R - Roberts - 78-22
D - Breyer - 87-9
D - Ginsburg - 96-3
R - Thomas - 52-48
R - Souter - 90-9
R - Kennedy - 97-0
- Bork - 42-58 - denied
R - Scalia - 98-0
R - O-Connor - 99-0
R - Stevens - 98-0
R - Rehnquist - 68-26
R - Powell - 89-1
R - Blackmun - 94-0
 
2020-09-22 2:37:57 PM  

Literally Addicted: Who were the three who voted against her appointment?


Jesse Helms, Nickles from OK and Smith from NH
 
2020-09-22 2:41:27 PM  

Il Douchey: Yes, the sobbing, screaming, foot stomping temper tantrum is very lefty reaction to being told they can't have their way.  Consider their treatment of Bork, Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh, Harriet Myers (okay, that last one warranted the hissy fit).  The point is, left liberals cannot handle reality they don't approve of.  Contrast that to conservative reactions to the nominations of Ginsburg, Kagen and Sotomayor.  We didn't agree with their ideologies, but we understand the rules and respect the outcomes.  The right falls in line, the left falls apart.

/The left also always makes the mistake of over demonizing anyone they oppose to the point that normal people roll their eyes and tune them out.


Smoke more meth.
 
2020-09-22 2:44:39 PM  
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2020-09-22 2:45:47 PM  

madgonad: Ever notice that in the last 50 years there are 13 Republican seats and 4 Democratic? All five unanimous approvals were Republican seats.

R - Kavanaugh - 50-48
R - Gorsuch - 54-45
- Garland - blocked by GOP
D - Kagan - 63-37
D - Sotomayor - 68-31
R - Alito - 58-42
- Harriet - withdrawn due to dumpster fire and being unqualified
R - Roberts - 78-22
D - Breyer - 87-9
D - Ginsburg - 96-3
R - Thomas - 52-48
R - Souter - 90-9
R - Kennedy - 97-0
- Bork - 42-58 - denied
R - Scalia - 98-0
R - O-Connor - 99-0
R - Stevens - 98-0
R - Rehnquist - 68-26
R - Powell - 89-1
R - Blackmun - 94-0


Republicans have also only won the popular vote for President once in the last twenty years, and consistently get fewer votes for Congresscritters.

Right-wingers are the minority, but our system is stacked in their favor. And now they're working on making that permanent, because their only principle is 'power at all costs'.

Hope you enjoyed being able to afford (or even get) health insurance, women having control over their own bodies, workers having any rights whatsoever, corporations having any sort of restraint...because if Trump and McConnell get to finish packing the Supreme Court, that's all out the window.

The only way to stop it is if Biden gets into office with a Democratic majority in the House AND Senate, and they eliminate the filibuster and pack the courts. Otherwise, start looking for actual developed nations that will take American refugees, or be prepared to ride out the shiatshow that's coming.
 
2020-09-22 2:51:56 PM  

Il Douchey: Yes, the sobbing, screaming, foot stomping temper tantrum is very lefty reaction to being told they can't have their way.  Consider their treatment of Bork, Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh, Harriet Myers (okay, that last one warranted the hissy fit).  The point is, left liberals cannot handle reality they don't approve of.  Contrast that to conservative reactions to the nominations of Ginsburg, Kagen and Sotomayor.  We didn't agree with their ideologies, but we understand the rules and respect the outcomes.  The right falls in line, the left falls apart.

/The left also always makes the mistake of over demonizing anyone they oppose to the point that normal people roll their eyes and tune them out.


You are not woke, please go to getwoke.com and pay 39.99 for a monthly subscription. Before you pay you will have to check the box to denounce your whiteness and white privilege while giving full support to BLM. Also in the fine print it states that you will never vote for Trump and support any candidate the DNC picks for you.
 
2020-09-22 3:02:03 PM  

LordJiro: Republicans have also only won the popular vote for President once in the last twenty years, and consistently get fewer votes for Congresscritters.

Right-wingers are the minority, but our system is stacked in their favor. And now they're working on making that permanent, because their only principle is 'power at all costs'.

Hope you enjoyed being able to afford (or even get) health insurance, women having control over their own bodies, workers having any rights whatsoever, corporations having any sort of restraint...because if Trump and McConnell get to finish packing the Supreme Court, that's all out the window.

The only way to stop it is if Biden gets into office with a Democratic majority in the House AND Senate, and they eliminate the filibuster and pack the courts. Otherwise, start looking for actual developed nations that will take American refugees, or be prepared to ride out the shiatshow that's coming.


There's also nothing stopping the Biden Administration from conducting a full money laundering/corruption audit on the entire Federal Judiciary. If the audits apply to every Federal Judge regardless of party it won't be a political move.

Expect lots of abrupt resignations and hollowpoint retirements should such a thing come to pass.
 
2020-09-22 3:03:09 PM  

LordJiro: madgonad: Ever notice that in the last 50 years there are 13 Republican seats and 4 Democratic? All five unanimous approvals were Republican seats.

R - Kavanaugh - 50-48
R - Gorsuch - 54-45
- Garland - blocked by GOP
D - Kagan - 63-37
D - Sotomayor - 68-31
R - Alito - 58-42
- Harriet - withdrawn due to dumpster fire and being unqualified
R - Roberts - 78-22
D - Breyer - 87-9
D - Ginsburg - 96-3
R - Thomas - 52-48
R - Souter - 90-9
R - Kennedy - 97-0
- Bork - 42-58 - denied
R - Scalia - 98-0
R - O-Connor - 99-0
R - Stevens - 98-0
R - Rehnquist - 68-26
R - Powell - 89-1
R - Blackmun - 94-0

Republicans have also only won the popular vote for President once in the last twenty years, and consistently get fewer votes for Congresscritters.

Right-wingers are the minority, but our system is stacked in their favor. And now they're working on making that permanent, because their only principle is 'power at all costs'.

Hope you enjoyed being able to afford (or even get) health insurance, women having control over their own bodies, workers having any rights whatsoever, corporations having any sort of restraint...because if Trump and McConnell get to finish packing the Supreme Court, that's all out the window.

The only way to stop it is if Biden gets into office with a Democratic majority in the House AND Senate, and they eliminate the filibuster and pack the courts. Otherwise, start looking for actual developed nations that will take American refugees, or be prepared to ride out the shiatshow that's coming.


Sorry buddy there are no countries that will take Americans unless those Americans have money or are asked to work by a company that will sponsor you. "I don't like conservatives" is not a good enough reason to be admitted as a refugee.

Popular vote never and never will elect the POTUS, you Democrats really do not grasp that idea. Right-wingers are not the minority and proof is Trump won, again popular vote does not mean squat in a presidential election.

After the riots this summer Democrats will lose big time, civil Americans do not want to punish successful people and make martyrs out of criminals. Out of control crime in Democrat cities will make sure Democrats lose and no amount of "freed criminals make the city safe" explanations will change that.
 
2020-09-22 3:03:21 PM  

Il Douchey: Yes, the sobbing, screaming, foot stomping temper tantrum is very lefty reaction to being told they can't have their way.  Consider their treatment of Bork, Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh, Harriet Myers (okay, that last one warranted the hissy fit).  The point is, left liberals cannot handle reality they don't approve of.  Contrast that to conservative reactions to the nominations of Ginsburg, Kagen and Sotomayor.  We didn't agree with their ideologies, but we understand the rules and respect the outcomes.  The right falls in line, the left falls apart.

/The left also always makes the mistake of over demonizing anyone they oppose to the point that normal people roll their eyes and tune them out.


Yeah, that post didn't really give you much credibility. All 5 of your examples had glaring problems, and I'm not talking about a right/left perspective. I mean, Kavanaugh openly lied to the Senate, and you thought he was mistreated???
 
2020-09-22 3:12:13 PM  
Yeah, but we weren't in the middle of cold civil war back then, now were we?
 
2020-09-22 3:13:17 PM  
Usurper4:   I mean, Kavanaugh openly lied to the Senate, and you thought he was mistreated???

Yeah, and the Left may get upset about someone like Kavanaugh, but the majority of people I see don't want to go all 2nd Amendmenty on him. Yes, you do run into that some.

The Right, which is usually a minority of people in a large number of states, is locked and loaded to solve the problem. This seems to be the pro-lifers default position.

That's one reason I'm right here on the Left now.
 
2020-09-22 3:27:17 PM  
The repubs treated her with kids gloves.  They never even brought up the rumor that she shot a man in Reno.
 
2020-09-22 3:57:25 PM  

pmdgrwr: Popular vote never and never will elect the POTUS, you Democrats really do not grasp that idea. Right-wingers are not the minority and proof is Trump won, again popular vote does not mean squat in a presidential election.

After the riots this summer Democrats will lose big time, civil Americans do not want to punish successful people and make martyrs out of criminals. Out of control crime in Democrat cities will make sure Democrats lose and no amount of "freed criminals make the city safe" explanations will change that.


Get ready for the divorce. It will be civil this time. No armies or nothing.

Boy did Putin get his money's worth.
 
2020-09-22 4:46:38 PM  

pmdgrwr: LordJiro: madgonad: Ever notice that in the last 50 years there are 13 Republican seats and 4 Democratic? All five unanimous approvals were Republican seats.

R - Kavanaugh - 50-48
R - Gorsuch - 54-45
- Garland - blocked by GOP
D - Kagan - 63-37
D - Sotomayor - 68-31
R - Alito - 58-42
- Harriet - withdrawn due to dumpster fire and being unqualified
R - Roberts - 78-22
D - Breyer - 87-9
D - Ginsburg - 96-3
R - Thomas - 52-48
R - Souter - 90-9
R - Kennedy - 97-0
- Bork - 42-58 - denied
R - Scalia - 98-0
R - O-Connor - 99-0
R - Stevens - 98-0
R - Rehnquist - 68-26
R - Powell - 89-1
R - Blackmun - 94-0

Republicans have also only won the popular vote for President once in the last twenty years, and consistently get fewer votes for Congresscritters.

Right-wingers are the minority, but our system is stacked in their favor. And now they're working on making that permanent, because their only principle is 'power at all costs'.

Hope you enjoyed being able to afford (or even get) health insurance, women having control over their own bodies, workers having any rights whatsoever, corporations having any sort of restraint...because if Trump and McConnell get to finish packing the Supreme Court, that's all out the window.

The only way to stop it is if Biden gets into office with a Democratic majority in the House AND Senate, and they eliminate the filibuster and pack the courts. Otherwise, start looking for actual developed nations that will take American refugees, or be prepared to ride out the shiatshow that's coming.

Sorry buddy there are no countries that will take Americans unless those Americans have money or are asked to work by a company that will sponsor you. "I don't like conservatives" is not a good enough reason to be admitted as a refugee.

Popular vote never and never will elect the POTUS, you Democrats really do not grasp that idea. Right-wingers are not the minority and proof is Trump won, again popular vote does not mean squat in a presidential election.

Aft ...


So wait, Right winger's can't win the popular vote, but AREN'T the minority?
So. . . do they just not vote then?
 
2020-09-22 4:58:11 PM  
This article also makes me happy that Jesse Helms is dead, but his legacy still lives on in the people that used to work for him.
 
2020-09-22 4:59:12 PM  
The problem now is that everything is ultra-partisan

Either party could nominate Jesus to the SCOTUS and it would be a strict party-line vote, no matter which party nominated him
 
2020-09-22 5:06:32 PM  

pmdgrwr: [troll droppings pooper-scoopered]


Buy a clue with whatever money you're not using to buy a vowel.
 
2020-09-22 5:32:41 PM  

madgonad: Ever notice that in the last 50 years there are 13 Republican seats and 4 Democratic? All five unanimous approvals were Republican seats.


Interesting observation.  But with the exception of the Magnificent Justice Scalia, the other names prior to Thomas were mostly wishy washy, middle of the road type judges of no great distinction.

If we shift the frame to the last 30 years, Republicans were confirmed by an average margin of 17.4 votes, while Democrats averaged a margin of 58.5 votes.  During this time, the Senate's balance of power changed six times, but neither party ever had more than 58 Senators.

/I believe we can all agree that Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor and Kagen were all treated with respect by Republicans during their confirmation hearings
 
2020-09-23 10:01:16 AM  

Il Douchey: /I believe we can all agree that Ginsburg, Breyer, Sotomayor and Kagen were all treated with respect by Republicans during their confirmation hearings


As was Roberts

Turns out when you nominate qualified and non-criminal judges they sail through.

But then Republicans watched as some of their nominations in the 80s and 90s weren't always delivering hard-right verdicts (examples - Souters, Stevens, and Kennedy) they decided they were only going to nominate hard-right justices that have a history of legislating from the bench.

Everything is zero-sum politics for them.

/Federal judges should all require 2/3 of the Senate for confirmation since it requires that to remove them
 
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