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(Times Live South Africa)   South Africa's high court orders the destruction of the entire stock of two vodka-based products being marketed as "Whisky" on the grounds that they are a hate crime against anyone of Scottish or Irish extraction   (timeslive.co.za) divider line
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2020-09-21 11:11:20 PM  
Vodak is for women and college students
 
2020-09-22 3:46:48 AM  
I'm not an expert on liquors, and especially not on South African standard definitions of liquors. I am aware that certain types of whisk(e)y demand specific grains prepared in certain ways (e.g. for Scotch Whisky, malted barley is dried by the heat of a peat fire in Scotland prior to fermentation). but, when one comes down to it, doesn't all whisk(e)y go through a phase of being vodka (after distilling but before barrel aging)?
 
2020-09-22 5:19:12 AM  
Sounds like they were coloring Vodka and adding flavors and probably putting in big latters "WHISKEY" and in very small letters below "flavored"
 
2020-09-22 5:23:48 AM  

zimbach: I'm not an expert on liquors, and especially not on South African standard definitions of liquors. I am aware that certain types of whisk(e)y demand specific grains prepared in certain ways (e.g. for Scotch Whisky, malted barley is dried by the heat of a peat fire in Scotland prior to fermentation). but, when one comes down to it, doesn't all whisk(e)y go through a phase of being vodka (after distilling but before barrel aging)?


It is a little more subtle than that, whiskey needs to be made out of some sort of grain or mix of grain and vodka can be made out of anything.  Vodka is often distilled more and to a higher proof than whiskey and it is usually also filtered so that it is little or no flavor to it, whiskey tries to keep some of the flavor and usually is distilled to a lower proof, but yes there can be some overlap between the two.
 
2020-09-22 5:27:23 AM  

zimbach: I'm not an expert on liquors, and especially not on South African standard definitions of liquors. I am aware that certain types of whisk(e)y demand specific grains prepared in certain ways (e.g. for Scotch Whisky, malted barley is dried by the heat of a peat fire in Scotland prior to fermentation). but, when one comes down to it, doesn't all whisk(e)y go through a phase of being vodka (after distilling but before barrel aging)?


No
 
2020-09-22 7:24:17 AM  
They just sound like the classiest distillery ever.
 
2020-09-22 10:14:05 AM  

Laobaojun: They just sound like the classiest distillery ever.


oh lord, now I know where to go for bubble gum flavored, glitter 'infused' vodak.
 
2020-09-22 10:29:58 AM  

zimbach: I'm not an expert on liquors, and especially not on South African standard definitions of liquors. I am aware that certain types of whisk(e)y demand specific grains prepared in certain ways (e.g. for Scotch Whisky, malted barley is dried by the heat of a peat fire in Scotland prior to fermentation). but, when one comes down to it, doesn't all whisk(e)y go through a phase of being vodka (after distilling but before barrel aging)?


It's more like beer, then you distill it.
 
2020-09-22 10:50:27 AM  

zimbach: I'm not an expert on liquors, and especially not on South African standard definitions of liquors. I am aware that certain types of whisk(e)y demand specific grains prepared in certain ways (e.g. for Scotch Whisky, malted barley is dried by the heat of a peat fire in Scotland prior to fermentation). but, when one comes down to it, doesn't all whisk(e)y go through a phase of being vodka (after distilling but before barrel aging)?


In the US, whisky is distilled to below 190 proof. Any higher than that and it's a neutral spirit by law. Vodka *is* a neutral spirit; it must be distilled above 190 proof (both are watered down their final proofs, a minimum of 80 proof for both vodak and whisky.  Whisky must also have the nebulous "taste, aroma, and characteristics generally attributed to whisky" and it must have been stored in oak (but it looks like storage for a nanosecond counts) except for corn whisky. As others have noted, vodka can be fermented from anything, but it's usually grains, same as whisky.

Could you tell the difference between a bad pre-aged whisky distilled at 189 proof and a bad pre-filtered vodka distilled at 191 proof?  Probably not unless you're the inspector in charge of judging the characteristics.  But yeah, they're distinct.

Dunno about South Africa.
 
2020-09-22 10:50:58 AM  
 
2020-09-22 11:03:28 AM  
Making sure that liquor actually is what it's labeled as seems to be the 1 regulation that's near universally enforced.
 
2020-09-22 1:54:01 PM  

Laobaojun: They just sound like the classiest distillery ever.


right? it reminds me of this one South Asian liquer we used to get, that we could never even figure out what it was (sort of like a digestif but with a metric shiat-ton of sugar added ex proof facto?)

there were two reasons we'd always feel obligated to buy it: (a.) always on the discount shelf for 'bout tree-fitty, and (2.) wrapped in foil for whatever bizarre reason. how can you *not* buy that seriously how.

can't find the exact brand, but this Portogese one looks awfully similar in both form and function:

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/also you had to shout, "SPACE BOOZE!" every time you drank a shot of it
 
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