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(The Intellectualist)   Not to alarm anyone, but Trump's top pick for the Supreme Court seems to be in a cult   (mavenroundtable.io) divider line
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2020-09-22 9:45:19 AM  
 
2020-09-22 9:46:04 AM  

sniderman: Exluddite: It has become glaringly obvious that the framers of the constitution didn't count on people this corrupt, this stupid, or both actually getting elected.

The framers of the Constitution didn't expect nearly half of the U.S. population to be pants-on-head stupid either. And yet here we are.


Yes they did. That's why we have the Electoral College.
 
2020-09-22 9:46:14 AM  
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2020-09-22 9:47:30 AM  

Unikitty: sniderman: Exluddite: It has become glaringly obvious that the framers of the constitution didn't count on people this corrupt, this stupid, or both actually getting elected.

The framers of the Constitution didn't expect nearly half of the U.S. population to be pants-on-head stupid either. And yet here we are.

Yes they did. That's why we have the Electoral College.


...to make the pants-on-head stupid people have disproportion representation.
 
2020-09-22 9:48:26 AM  

stlbluez: mdemon81: stlbluez: and their women were most definitely at HOME with their mouths shut and their aprons on.

You seem like a person whose opinions are worth listening to.

lol.. its not MY opinion... or view.

its just a historical fact... and bringing up the founding fathers views in the context of the religious beliefs of a female nominee...
Guys who were closer in history to the Salem witch trials than they were women's suffrage.. and wouldn't even be alive to see women allowed to OWN PROPERTY in this country...
was just a dumb comment :)


It's a weird tangent when the original comment was just talking about corruption of the spirit of the constitution. The Founders were simply men from their time period with all the baggage that entails but the constitution is supposed to be a living document that adjusts with the times and the nominee in question is quite the throwback to a regressive era.
 
2020-09-22 9:49:27 AM  
Oh thread's on the main tab. The explains the higher than normal number of mouthbreathers.
 
2020-09-22 9:49:54 AM  

Unikitty: sniderman: Exluddite: It has become glaringly obvious that the framers of the constitution didn't count on people this corrupt, this stupid, or both actually getting elected.

The framers of the Constitution didn't expect nearly half of the U.S. population to be pants-on-head stupid either. And yet here we are.

Yes they did. That's why we have the Electoral College.


And look how well that worked out.  The EC was more to placate slave states anyway.
 
2020-09-22 9:51:01 AM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: biden is in the same cult.


Biden's with People of Praise?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_​o​f_Praise
 
2020-09-22 9:51:22 AM  

freakay: And cue in the smug children

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We get it.

You couldn't get a date in HS and now you hate women.
 
2020-09-22 9:51:45 AM  
This is so disappointing.

I was hoping for Tomi Lahren or Laura Loomer.
 
2020-09-22 9:52:32 AM  

HypnozombieX: gar1013: Magorn: MegaLib: It is irrelevant.  Vice President Biden will win.  We will win the house and senate.  We will double the number of Justices and pack the SCOTUS with Progressives.  Republicans will never be relevant again.  They had the chance to pack the court, and were too week.  We won't make that mistake.  We will implement Medicare for all, free Public education, UBI and legally take the guns.  We will build a modern progressive nation with equal rights for all

13 justices, not 18

we have 13 judicial circuits and each of the Justices is supposed to also be the Chief admin judge of a circuit...the number 9 for justices was set when we had nine circuits.  Therefore 13 is merely correctly updating the court.   The fact that it will give dems a 7-6 majority?  well just icing on the cake

Cool.

If Dems pack the court, once we regain control of Congress and the Presidency, we'll expand it to 50...maybe even throw in a few for our various territories as well.

Dems suck at strategy. Don't say you weren't warned.

Oh so vewy vewy conswerned. republicans have already shown they will do anything. Democrats would profoundly stupid not to do exactly the same and you know it. Basically your 'advice' to Democrats is to just accept a fascist dictatorship where a corrupt plutocrat robs em blind. Get farked dupshiat, only russians would put up with that nonsense.


My advice to you is to switch to decaf.
 
2020-09-22 9:52:33 AM  

gar1013: havocmike: Why is such an important decision a simple majority vote? Shouldn't something like this be a 2/3rds vote?

Well, the Democrats decided to get rid of the 60 vote requirement for all nominees except Supreme Court Justices because they wanted to stop Republicans from using the filibuster.

Then, when the Dems tried to use the filibuster against Gorsuch, the Republicans decided to return the favor by removing the Supreme Court exception.

Meanwhile, Democrats (like Obama) are fond of saying that the filibuster is racist (despite engaging in the practice), but now find themselves unable to do anything because they put the wheels into motion to limit the ability to use the filibuster to stop nominees.

So in short, the Dems decided to play hardball because Republicans wouldn't just go along with what the Dems wanted, and in the process, they shot themselves in the foot.

Remember this story when you hear Schumer talk about how they should pack the court. It wasn't that long ago that Republicans controlled all three branches, and it will happen again. At that point, if court packing has occurred, expect to see as many justices as there are states in the union


Wrong.  The Dems went nuclear because McConnell put obstructing Obama above the functioning of the U.S. government.   Positions were going vacant because the Repubs wouldn't confirm anyone besides who they wanted.  In fact, they weren't even willing to approve people they approved of it gave Obama a chance to accomplish something.

Repubs weren't willing to vet candidates honestly and approve them based on qualifications.  THAT's how we got here.  Remember that when Schumer goes nuclear in January,
 
2020-09-22 9:52:40 AM  
If we are freaking out over her husband being the Leader...it is kinda like following the Bible.  As Christians should do.

so that is Cultish now?  we are really bouncing the bar all over the place.
 
2020-09-22 9:53:05 AM  

FatherChaos: So a perfect choice by Dump:

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The MAGAts aren't normal people. They've been conned and don't even realize it.


Second the book recommendation. Hassan is the leading author on modern cult practices. My buddy lost a gf to a real legit cult 20 years ago and found Hassan's book Breaking the Bonds as he was trying to find some answers to what happened.
 
2020-09-22 9:54:48 AM  

raius: What_Would_Jimi_Do: biden is in the same cult.

No one cares that she's Catholic.  Stop conflating Catholicism with what she's doing.


Can you even read? Go back and see how many people are complaining about her being Catholic.

FFS, stop lying.
 
2020-09-22 9:55:38 AM  

freakay: And cue in the smug children

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Holy shiat that's the same woman at 4 different ages.

Are they clones???
 
2020-09-22 9:56:50 AM  

gar1013: raius: What_Would_Jimi_Do: biden is in the same cult.

No one cares that she's Catholic.  Stop conflating Catholicism with what she's doing.

Can you even read? Go back and see how many people are complaining about her being Catholic.

FFS, stop lying.


You're still trying way to hard for some attention sport.
 
2020-09-22 9:57:42 AM  

gar1013: raius: What_Would_Jimi_Do: biden is in the same cult.

No one cares that she's Catholic.  Stop conflating Catholicism with what she's doing.

Can you even read? Go back and see how many people are complaining about her being Catholic.

FFS, stop lying.


Her cult has both Catholics and Protestants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_​o​f_Praise
 
2020-09-22 9:58:02 AM  

vygramul: I want him to nominate Alex Jones or Ivanka or Julian Assange. I want to see someone incredibly bad nominated just to see what the GOP will tolerate. Because if it's anything, we should be informed of such.


Per CNN they already have the votes lined up without a name.

I'd like to see them confirm a justice today, name TBD, just to really underscore the horror of the whole episode. No hearings. We can't stop them so let's see them completely drop kayfabe and go for it.
 
2020-09-22 9:58:46 AM  
Someone should make an ad comparing this and this admin./gop to the Taliban.  I would think the results would be hauntingly similar.
 
2020-09-22 9:58:50 AM  

gar1013: Go back and see how many people are complaining about her being Catholic.


Zero?
 
2020-09-22 9:59:29 AM  

Calypsocookie: *looks down at my vagina*

Well it was nice making our own decisions for awhile huh?

*sadly walks away*

/me not my vagina


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2020-09-22 9:59:42 AM  

Graffito: gar1013: havocmike: Why is such an important decision a simple majority vote? Shouldn't something like this be a 2/3rds vote?

Well, the Democrats decided to get rid of the 60 vote requirement for all nominees except Supreme Court Justices because they wanted to stop Republicans from using the filibuster.

Then, when the Dems tried to use the filibuster against Gorsuch, the Republicans decided to return the favor by removing the Supreme Court exception.

Meanwhile, Democrats (like Obama) are fond of saying that the filibuster is racist (despite engaging in the practice), but now find themselves unable to do anything because they put the wheels into motion to limit the ability to use the filibuster to stop nominees.

So in short, the Dems decided to play hardball because Republicans wouldn't just go along with what the Dems wanted, and in the process, they shot themselves in the foot.

Remember this story when you hear Schumer talk about how they should pack the court. It wasn't that long ago that Republicans controlled all three branches, and it will happen again. At that point, if court packing has occurred, expect to see as many justices as there are states in the union

Wrong.  The Dems went nuclear because McConnell put obstructing Obama above the functioning of the U.S. government.   Positions were going vacant because the Repubs wouldn't confirm anyone besides who they wanted.  In fact, they weren't even willing to approve people they approved of it gave Obama a chance to accomplish something.

Repubs weren't willing to vet candidates honestly and approve them based on qualifications.  THAT's how we got here.  Remember that when Schumer goes nuclear in January,


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2020-09-22 10:00:48 AM  

raius: gar1013: raius: What_Would_Jimi_Do: biden is in the same cult.

No one cares that she's Catholic.  Stop conflating Catholicism with what she's doing.

Can you even read? Go back and see how many people are complaining about her being Catholic.

FFS, stop lying.

You're still trying way to hard for some attention sport.


And yet you keep feeling the need to pause from your lies to respond to me.

Sorry, you're not my type.
 
2020-09-22 10:01:35 AM  

Fart_Machine: gar1013: raius: What_Would_Jimi_Do: biden is in the same cult.

No one cares that she's Catholic.  Stop conflating Catholicism with what she's doing.

Can you even read? Go back and see how many people are complaining about her being Catholic.

FFS, stop lying.

Her cult has both Catholics and Protestants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_o​f_Praise


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2020-09-22 10:02:04 AM  
5 of the current 8 justices are Catholic. 2 are Jewish. 1 is Catholic light. 

Almost like Protestants don't trust their own...
 
2020-09-22 10:02:20 AM  

gar1013: raius: gar1013: raius: What_Would_Jimi_Do: biden is in the same cult.

No one cares that she's Catholic.  Stop conflating Catholicism with what she's doing.

Can you even read? Go back and see how many people are complaining about her being Catholic.

FFS, stop lying.

You're still trying way to hard for some attention sport.

And yet you keep feeling the need to pause from your lies to respond to me.

Sorry, you're not my type.


Which Mod's alt are you anyway?
 
2020-09-22 10:03:23 AM  

gar1013: raius: gar1013: raius: What_Would_Jimi_Do: biden is in the same cult.

No one cares that she's Catholic.  Stop conflating Catholicism with what she's doing.

Can you even read? Go back and see how many people are complaining about her being Catholic.

FFS, stop lying.

You're still trying way to hard for some attention sport.

And yet you keep feeling the need to pause from your lies to respond to me.

Sorry, you're not my type.


I don't lie, responding to you on occasion isn't really that hard.  You don't really add anything to a conversation so it doesn't even take effort.

Keep on being a troll though, it's super cool and edgy.
 
2020-09-22 10:06:40 AM  
This person is not just a Catholic...lets get that straight.  If she was just Catholic, the teachings of the Catholic Church are public, well known, and scrutinized (obviously not everyone adheres to those beliefs, and everyone is free to say she is a whack job for being Catholic because of transubstantiation or whatever).  The thing is, though, the teachings and rules of "People of Praise" are not public, and their community has a habit of making their members swear some weird fealty to their "head."

So do we want a Supreme Court Justice who will do what her husband or leader tells her?  Forget about Rome telling her what to do.  Thats not the issue here.  The issue is who is actually guiding her.  She will probably laugh this off and say "of course I make my own decisions and think my own thoughts."  But this is a life time appointment.  I cant see this being a good idea.
 
2020-09-22 10:09:07 AM  

way south: *Sigh*, So now Catholics are a cult...

I think the democrats forgot that they needed people to vote for them at some point.


Yep, what would you call an organization that has systematically covered up, from threatening and lying to to the victims families all the way to the farking Pope, and lied about decades of rape and sexual assault of thousands of minors in their charge?
 
2020-09-22 10:10:19 AM  

dittybopper: qorkfiend: You think that means no one can ever talk about it?

Yes, when it comes to her confirmation or not.

If any senators bring it up in the hearings, then yes, absolute violation of Article VI.

And if the senators can't bring it up, what's the point of talking about it?   It's a nullity.   It's like discussing why water is wet.


You probably get just as worked up about all the Hatch act violations .... you just keep it to yourself
 
2020-09-22 10:10:38 AM  

freakay: This person is not just a Catholic...lets get that straight.  If she was just Catholic, the teachings of the Catholic Church are public, well known, and scrutinized (obviously not everyone adheres to those beliefs, and everyone is free to say she is a whack job for being Catholic because of transubstantiation or whatever).  The thing is, though, the teachings and rules of "People of Praise" are not public, and their community has a habit of making their members swear some weird fealty to their "head."

So do we want a Supreme Court Justice who will do what her husband or leader tells her?  Forget about Rome telling her what to do.  Thats not the issue here.  The issue is who is actually guiding her.  She will probably laugh this off and say "of course I make my own decisions and think my own thoughts."  But this is a life time appointment.  I cant see this being a good idea.


But, you've almost reached the point.  We need to shut up about the cult and ask serious real-world questions about her ability to respect legal precedent and uphold the Constitution.  Every time we say the word "cult" we're explicitly asking to apply a standard expressly forbidden by Constitution itself.

We have to keep the focus on the job.
 
2020-09-22 10:10:41 AM  
I found a vagina lying around. Anyone missing one?
 
2020-09-22 10:12:26 AM  

TexasDavid: freakay: This person is not just a Catholic...lets get that straight.  If she was just Catholic, the teachings of the Catholic Church are public, well known, and scrutinized (obviously not everyone adheres to those beliefs, and everyone is free to say she is a whack job for being Catholic because of transubstantiation or whatever).  The thing is, though, the teachings and rules of "People of Praise" are not public, and their community has a habit of making their members swear some weird fealty to their "head."

So do we want a Supreme Court Justice who will do what her husband or leader tells her?  Forget about Rome telling her what to do.  Thats not the issue here.  The issue is who is actually guiding her.  She will probably laugh this off and say "of course I make my own decisions and think my own thoughts."  But this is a life time appointment.  I cant see this being a good idea.

But, you've almost reached the point.  We need to shut up about the cult and ask serious real-world questions about her ability to respect legal precedent and uphold the Constitution.  Every time we say the word "cult" we're explicitly asking to apply a standard expressly forbidden by Constitution itself.

We have to keep the focus on the job.


Very true.
 
2020-09-22 10:12:39 AM  

Someone Else's Alt: way south: *Sigh*, So now Catholics are a cult...

I think the democrats forgot that they needed people to vote for them at some point.

Yep, what would you call an organization that has systematically covered up, from threatening and lying to to the victims families all the way to the farking Pope, and lied about decades of rape and sexual assault of thousands of minors in their charge?


Problems with the Church aside, the issue isn't that she's Catholic.  The issue is that she's part of a loony Para church cult.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_​o​f_Praise
 
2020-09-22 10:14:36 AM  

way south: *Sigh*, So now Catholics are a cult...

I think the democrats forgot that they needed people to vote for them at some point.


Apperently they can't go with the usual unfounded rape allegations and usual racist accusations are also aren't going to pan out for them either.
 
2020-09-22 10:17:00 AM  

thehobbes: 5 of the current 8 justices are Catholic. 2 are Jewish. 1 is Catholic light. 

Almost like Protestants don't trust their own...


That's because even they know that their own lawyers are too crappy to be on the Supreme Court. You stick Liberty University grads at the lower courts where they won't be seen as often.
 
2020-09-22 10:17:33 AM  
And at last report has no piercings or tattoos.......THE FREAK!
 
2020-09-22 10:17:56 AM  

raius: gar1013: raius: gar1013: raius: What_Would_Jimi_Do: biden is in the same cult.

No one cares that she's Catholic.  Stop conflating Catholicism with what she's doing.

Can you even read? Go back and see how many people are complaining about her being Catholic.

FFS, stop lying.

You're still trying way to hard for some attention sport.

And yet you keep feeling the need to pause from your lies to respond to me.

Sorry, you're not my type.

I don't lie, responding to you on occasion isn't really that hard.  You don't really add anything to a conversation so it doesn't even take effort.

Keep on being a troll though, it's super cool and edgy.


Stop kicking the masochist, he likes it.
 
2020-09-22 10:18:30 AM  
As a man, why should I ever have to submit to this woman telling me what the law is or is not? By her own logic, she can GTFO.
 
2020-09-22 10:19:04 AM  

Unikitty: sniderman: Exluddite: It has become glaringly obvious that the framers of the constitution didn't count on people this corrupt, this stupid, or both actually getting elected.

The framers of the Constitution didn't expect nearly half of the U.S. population to be pants-on-head stupid either. And yet here we are.

Yes they did. That's why we have the Electoral College.



And one of the reasons they created the EC was to prevent people like Trump from ever getting elected.
See: The Federalist Papers No. 68.

Looks as if the system has failed.
 
2020-09-22 10:19:56 AM  

Fart_Machine: Someone Else's Alt: way south: *Sigh*, So now Catholics are a cult...

I think the democrats forgot that they needed people to vote for them at some point.

Yep, what would you call an organization that has systematically covered up, from threatening and lying to to the victims families all the way to the farking Pope, and lied about decades of rape and sexual assault of thousands of minors in their charge?

Problems with the Church aside, the issue isn't that she's Catholic.  The issue is that she's part of a loony Para church cult.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_o​f_Praise



Loony aside, she has a protected right to any religion that makes her happy.  You've got to get her to discuss how her faith informs her jurisprudence, that she "belongs to a cult" is a non-starter.  You couldn't stop Kavanaugh and he's an accused date rapist and demonstrated raging alcoholic  

We've got to do better this time...
 
2020-09-22 10:20:11 AM  

Someone Else's Alt: way south: *Sigh*, So now Catholics are a cult...

I think the democrats forgot that they needed people to vote for them at some point.

Yep, what would you call an organization that has systematically covered up, from threatening and lying to to the victims families all the way to the farking Pope, and lied about decades of rape and sexual assault of thousands of minors in their charge?


A massive bureaucracy that has over a billion of followers, nearly a half million priests, millions of other religious followers, that has been the bedrock of Europe since the fall of Rome while serving as a pseudo-Marxist outreach throughout Africa, East Asia, and South America?
 
2020-09-22 10:22:00 AM  
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2020-09-22 10:22:40 AM  

elaw: Trump supporter + Republican = two cults.  At least.


Two cults at the same time?
 
2020-09-22 10:26:52 AM  

thehobbes: while serving as a pseudo-Marxist outreach throughout Africa, East Asia, and South America?


Marx is spinning at high speed in his grave watching you characterize the Catholic church's conversion efforts in the developing countries as .... Marxist.

Stick to your day job.

/"outreach"
//snort
 
2020-09-22 10:27:23 AM  

TexasDavid: Fart_Machine: Someone Else's Alt: way south: *Sigh*, So now Catholics are a cult...

I think the democrats forgot that they needed people to vote for them at some point.

Yep, what would you call an organization that has systematically covered up, from threatening and lying to to the victims families all the way to the farking Pope, and lied about decades of rape and sexual assault of thousands of minors in their charge?

Problems with the Church aside, the issue isn't that she's Catholic.  The issue is that she's part of a loony Para church cult.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_o​f_Praise


Loony aside, she has a protected right to any religion that makes her happy.  You've got to get her to discuss how her faith informs her jurisprudence, that she "belongs to a cult" is a non-starter.  You couldn't stop Kavanaugh and he's an accused date rapist and demonstrated raging alcoholic  

We've got to do better this time...


You really think that matters to the Republican Senators who have already lined up to vote for confirmation before the nominee has even been announced?
 
2020-09-22 10:27:41 AM  

Wine Sipping Elitist: How is this different from the standard wedding vows? How is this different from standard Christianity?

She is a fundamentalist Christian. This is what they all believe. Big deal.

Honestly, I disagree with them, but I respect fundamentalists more than wishy washy new age types that believe the next thing that sounds good. What the fundies believe is written down, in black and white.

I certainly don't want them having power over me, that's for sure, but I don't see anything extra whack-a-doodle about her oath. It's standard fundy Christian social club stuff. You know, the usual whack-a-doodle stuff.


She is part of religious group that was founded in 1971, in Indiana.

It is a special kind of irony that "Christians" don't follow the teachings of Jesus that "is written down, in black and white".

Great, so when enough of these "fundies" are all in positions of power and decide that the rest of us have to abide by their deeply held religious beliefs I suppose you will be the first to hand over your 14 year old daughter to be married off to an adult male of their choosing? Because for some reason all of these Christian groups have no problem with little girls marrying adult men. But the real threat is these nut jobs forcing their medieval bullshiat into public schools, assuming Davos hasn't already eliminated all of them by then.
 
2020-09-22 10:29:29 AM  
News reports are saying Rmoney is onboard with a vote right now. So all you saying that Mittens is a Republican with some integrity can go fark yourselves
 
2020-09-22 10:30:12 AM  

LurkLongAndProsper: "Craig Lent, the group's overall coordinator, told The South Bend Tribune in 2018 that the organization is officially ecumenical, but its membership is predominantly Catholic.
He has also insisted in several interviews that the group is not a cult, but is about building community and friendships, with members that have a range of political views."

I saw this in another article that talked to the same guy. I've always said that the best way to convince people you aren't a cult, is to deny that you are a cult. If you ever have to say the words  "I am not in a cult" out loud, to another person, chances are 100% that you are in a cult. Unless you're emo or listen to ICP I guess.


Denial is the first sign of being in a cult.

Strangely it is also the first sign of not being in a cult.

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