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(The Intellectualist)   Not to alarm anyone, but Trump's top pick for the Supreme Court seems to be in a cult   (mavenroundtable.io) divider line
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2020-09-22 8:22:02 AM  
The Flagellants?
 
2020-09-22 8:22:14 AM  

qorkfiend: Leader O'Cola: qorkfiend: havocmike: qorkfiend: havocmike: Why is such an important decision a simple majority vote? Shouldn't something like this be a 2/3rds vote?

No

because?

Why should it be?

Why should ratifying an amendment require more than a majority vote?

Because it's supposed to be difficult


Why?
 
2020-09-22 8:22:19 AM  

markie_farkie: "We don't try to control people," said Mr. Lent, who is also a professor of electrical engineering and physics at Notre Dame.

He might be book smart, but he gave up sanity permanently for...his last name.


Oh, no. They encourage the husbands to do that.  And assign everyone a "minder".  Nothing creepy about that at all.
 
2020-09-22 8:22:23 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: sniderman: The framers of the Constitution didn't expect nearly half of the U.S. population to be pants-on-head stupid either. And yet here we are

I think that's why they came up with the Electoral College. "Moſt of the populace are ſo ſtupid, they wear their pantaloons atop their heads! Theſe numbſkulls can't be truſted to actually vote for the candidate, we'll have electors actually do the electing."


Well, except at first it was expected that the state legislatures would pick the Electors, not  a general election.

/they can still do that
 
2020-09-22 8:22:37 AM  

bearded clamorer: I was hoping it was Eric Bloom.


Blue Öyster Cult - The Marshall Plan (HQ)
Youtube UHhvf1ERI5E
 
2020-09-22 8:23:26 AM  
posted TFA on Facebook, with a "I do not want to hear any dissenting opinions from married women here"
 
2020-09-22 8:23:34 AM  

bobug: But, hey, at least she firmly believes that life begins before conception, and punishes those dirty sluts, who get raped, or have medical issues, or where the baby'll never survive outside of the womb, right?

/screams internally, so as not to wake up Mr. Bobug
//consoles herself with the response Mr. Bobug would give if I said "How may I submit to you?"
///It's a toss up: Either a) heart attack, b) uncontrollable laughter


I know if Mrs Nurglitch said that I'd be checking her for pod-person stuff.
 
2020-09-22 8:24:14 AM  

mdemon81: Kraftwerk Orange: Natalie Portmanteau: GardenWeasel: Why are we replacing a Jew with a Catholic?

right? Gimme a Sikh.

Be careful what you ask for.

[Fark user image image 800x994]

She's not a Sikh though.


Let's say someone goes and volunteers at the local food pantry 363 days a year. The other 2 days, they go to Klan rally.  Would you call them a KKK member ?
 
2020-09-22 8:24:17 AM  

havocmike: Why is such an important decision a simple majority vote? Shouldn't something like this be a 2/3rds vote?



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2020-09-22 8:24:20 AM  

dittybopper: Irrelevant, and if used against her in the hearings, a violation of the Constitution of the United States of America:

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs​/constitution-transcript
Article. VI.
All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

If you're saying she can't be confirmed because of her religious beliefs (or lack thereof, if that applied), that's a flat-out violation of Article VI.

Doesn't matter if she's in a "cult" or not.   It's a blanket prohibition with no exceptions.


"Ms. Barret, do you obey your husband in all ways extending to when professional decisions and conduct conflict with his?"

How is that religious?
 
2020-09-22 8:24:41 AM  

dwrash: FreakyBunny: The only thing that matters to his base is being cruel to "liberals". That's it. They cannot be persuaded by logic, decency, compassion, kindness, or even being harmed by his policies themselves.They are a sneering mass of hate, and they must be overwhelmed by the opposite of that.

Well... liberals have been cruel to them for 40+ years... payback is a biatch, ain't it.


Cruel. Right.
 
2020-09-22 8:26:36 AM  
FARKING NEWS FLASH! ALL RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE IN A CULT.

 
2020-09-22 8:26:56 AM  

dwrash: neongoats: dwrash: I was wondering what the democratic angle was going to be.. they cannot bring people out of the woodwork and said she raped or sexually abused them decades ago.  So y'all are deciding this is the hill to die on when opposing her nomination?

This is your stupid talking point? Go back to bed gramps. Sentient humans are talking.

You are all so predictable.. don't you see that.  You have always had limited choices to be outraged about and this is one of a handful of tactics that is always used... you guys are so boring.. yawn.


Or just don't nominate someone who belongs to weird cult?  Pointing out disqualifying attributes is part of vetting someone.  It used to be universal that people wanted judges who were normal and not weird and creepy theocrats.  That shouldn't be a partisan issue.
 
2020-09-22 8:27:19 AM  

havocmike: Why is such an important decision a simple majority vote? Shouldn't something like this be a 2/3rds vote?


Well, the Democrats decided to get rid of the 60 vote requirement for all nominees except Supreme Court Justices because they wanted to stop Republicans from using the filibuster.

Then, when the Dems tried to use the filibuster against Gorsuch, the Republicans decided to return the favor by removing the Supreme Court exception.

Meanwhile, Democrats (like Obama) are fond of saying that the filibuster is racist (despite engaging in the practice), but now find themselves unable to do anything because they put the wheels into motion to limit the ability to use the filibuster to stop nominees.

So in short, the Dems decided to play hardball because Republicans wouldn't just go along with what the Dems wanted, and in the process, they shot themselves in the foot.

Remember this story when you hear Schumer talk about how they should pack the court. It wasn't that long ago that Republicans controlled all three branches, and it will happen again. At that point, if court packing has occurred, expect to see as many justices as there are states in the union
 
2020-09-22 8:27:41 AM  
I don't mind people who seek power over me being asked to explain their views and attitudes.
Sorry.
If what you think and believe is a deep dark secret, I don't want you having any power over me.
Any politician who runs for office will be forced to explain him/herself over the course of their campaign.
Others who wish power over me can be required to explain themselves as well - I have no problem with it.
 
2020-09-22 8:28:03 AM  

Leader O'Cola: qorkfiend: Leader O'Cola: qorkfiend: havocmike: qorkfiend: havocmike: Why is such an important decision a simple majority vote? Shouldn't something like this be a 2/3rds vote?

No

because?

Why should it be?

Why should ratifying an amendment require more than a majority vote?

Because it's supposed to be difficult

Why?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny​_​of_the_majority
 
2020-09-22 8:28:08 AM  

Natalie Portmanteau: GardenWeasel: Why are we replacing a Jew with a Catholic?

right? Gimme a Sikh.


Honestly, I'm pretty sure I'd take a randomly-selected Sikh over anyone Trump will nominate.
 
2020-09-22 8:28:28 AM  

dwrash: FreakyBunny: The only thing that matters to his base is being cruel to "liberals". That's it. They cannot be persuaded by logic, decency, compassion, kindness, or even being harmed by his policies themselves.They are a sneering mass of hate, and they must be overwhelmed by the opposite of that.

Well... liberals have been cruel to them for 40+ years... payback is a biatch, ain't it.


Please detail how the liberals have been cruel to them. I'd really like to hear this tale of bullshiat. Please, spare no tears in telling us how oppressed the right has been.

This ought to be good for a laugh.
 
2020-09-22 8:29:05 AM  

physt: FARKING NEWS FLASH! ALL RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE IN A CULT.


No, that's not at all true.  You can be religious and not be in a cult, at least not based on the actual meaning of cult.
 
2020-09-22 8:29:39 AM  

Leader O'Cola: mdemon81: Kraftwerk Orange: Natalie Portmanteau: GardenWeasel: Why are we replacing a Jew with a Catholic?

right? Gimme a Sikh.

Be careful what you ask for.

[Fark user image image 800x994]

She's not a Sikh though.

Let's say someone goes and volunteers at the local food pantry 363 days a year. The other 2 days, they go to Klan rally.  Would you call them a KKK member ?


You know Nikki Haley is Catholic right?
 
2020-09-22 8:29:44 AM  
It is irrelevant.  Vice President Biden will win.  We will win the house and senate.  We will double the number of Justices and pack the SCOTUS with Progressives.  Republicans will never be relevant again.  They had the chance to pack the court, and were too week.  We won't make that mistake.  We will implement Medicare for all, free Public education, UBI and legally take the guns.  We will build a modern progressive nation with equal rights for all
 
2020-09-22 8:30:13 AM  

neongoats: dwrash: neongoats: dwrash: I was wondering what the democratic angle was going to be.. they cannot bring people out of the woodwork and said she raped or sexually abused them decades ago.  So y'all are deciding this is the hill to die on when opposing her nomination?

This is your stupid talking point? Go back to bed gramps. Sentient humans are talking.

You are all so predictable.. don't you see that.  You have always had limited choices to be outraged about and this is one of a handful of tactics that is always used... you guys are so boring.. yawn.

Yawn. Amoral trash thinks I'm boring. I'll care when a human being with morals calls me boring, not you shiat people.


You don't even know what I believe.  I've been observer of American culture and the conservative/liberal divide all my life.  And I know the attitudes that prevail.
 
2020-09-22 8:30:43 AM  

way south: *Sigh*, So now Catholics are a cult...

I think the democrats forgot that they needed people to vote for them at some point.


They believe that if you badger and yell at people, you can browbeat them into voting for their leftist nonsense.
 
2020-09-22 8:31:14 AM  

Exluddite: It has become glaringly obvious that the framers of the constitution didn't count on people this corrupt, this stupid, or both actually getting elected.


They did.  That's why they had the 2nd amendment.
 
2020-09-22 8:31:19 AM  

physt: FARKING NEWS FLASH! ALL RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE IN A CULT.


Thank you.

I must now consult with my lord and savior, Joe Pesci.
 
2020-09-22 8:31:27 AM  

EyeballKid: Tyrone Slothrop: The candidate could be a literal swastika-wearing Nazi, and McConnell would get them passed as long as they opposed abortion and supported businesses over people.

\amd even that last bit is optional

Why are we acting like conservatives don't have a hard-on for Nazis, or that at the very least, they don't share the very same belief system?


Because that's the stupidest and most idiotic farking thing I'll read all day?
 
2020-09-22 8:32:16 AM  

MegaLib: It is irrelevant.  Vice President Biden will win.  We will win the house and senate.  We will double the number of Justices and pack the SCOTUS with Progressives.  Republicans will never be relevant again.  They had the chance to pack the court, and were too week.  We won't make that mistake.  We will implement Medicare for all, free Public education, UBI and legally take the guns.  We will build a modern progressive nation with equal rights for all


LOL, the Trump tax cuts will be made permanent, no one goes to prison, Mnuchin will stay where he is as Treasury Secretary, and Hunter will get a job at Goldman Sachs.
 
2020-09-22 8:32:22 AM  

dwrash: neongoats: dwrash: neongoats: dwrash: I was wondering what the democratic angle was going to be.. they cannot bring people out of the woodwork and said she raped or sexually abused them decades ago.  So y'all are deciding this is the hill to die on when opposing her nomination?

This is your stupid talking point? Go back to bed gramps. Sentient humans are talking.

You are all so predictable.. don't you see that.  You have always had limited choices to be outraged about and this is one of a handful of tactics that is always used... you guys are so boring.. yawn.

Yawn. Amoral trash thinks I'm boring. I'll care when a human being with morals calls me boring, not you shiat people.

You don't even know what I believe.  I've been observer of American culture and the conservative/liberal divide all my life.  And I know the attitudes that prevail.


You're just a little micro-trump that thinks you're a farking expert on every subject.
 
2020-09-22 8:32:35 AM  

FreakyBunny: Cruel. Right.


Well, as cruel as it is possible to be with zero power.
Since 1980, the "Left" has barely existed in this country, and has had no hand in policy decisions or the exercise of political power. We are literally living in the pure form of Regan/Bush/Trump's America - everything these people are crying about and claiming victimization over is THEIR OWN WORK.
 
2020-09-22 8:32:40 AM  
and some are concerned about Sharia law.
 
2020-09-22 8:33:03 AM  
Don't be alarmed?  I'd be alarmed if he chose someone who wasn't a wingnut or a rapist or whatever societal cancer he's decided is pretty great that day.   I don't know if you've noticed but he doesn't make very good choices.
 
2020-09-22 8:33:28 AM  

gar1013: havocmike: Why is such an important decision a simple majority vote? Shouldn't something like this be a 2/3rds vote?

Well, the Democrats decided to get rid of the 60 vote requirement for all nominees except Supreme Court Justices because they wanted to stop Republicans from using the filibuster.

Then, when the Dems tried to use the filibuster against Gorsuch, the Republicans decided to return the favor by removing the Supreme Court exception.

Meanwhile, Democrats (like Obama) are fond of saying that the filibuster is racist (despite engaging in the practice), but now find themselves unable to do anything because they put the wheels into motion to limit the ability to use the filibuster to stop nominees.

So in short, the Dems decided to play hardball because Republicans wouldn't just go along with what the Dems wanted, and in the process, they shot themselves in the foot.

Remember this story when you hear Schumer talk about how they should pack the court. It wasn't that long ago that Republicans controlled all three branches, and it will happen again. At that point, if court packing has occurred, expect to see as many justices as there are states in the union


The only reason the Democrats removed it was because the Republicans filibustered everything.  They weren't letting Obama appoint any judges since McConnell decided his primary purpose was to stop anything Obama did.  The Democrats should remove the filibuster, all it does is prevent anything from happening since the Republicans act like a petulant child
 
2020-09-22 8:34:16 AM  

gar1013: EyeballKid: Tyrone Slothrop: The candidate could be a literal swastika-wearing Nazi, and McConnell would get them passed as long as they opposed abortion and supported businesses over people.

\amd even that last bit is optional

Why are we acting like conservatives don't have a hard-on for Nazis, or that at the very least, they don't share the very same belief system?

Because that's the stupidest and most idiotic farking thing I'll read all day?


In that you probably don't read too much and every time you do, you throw a fit and declare that it's stupid, I'll grant some partial truth to your statement.
 
2020-09-22 8:36:01 AM  
FTA: One of the individuals reportedly topping President Donald Trump's shortlist to replace Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader-Ginsburg belongs to a religious group that believes husbands should rule over their wives, among other highly conservative and traditional beliefs.

Why not nominate her husband and cut out the middle man?
 
2020-09-22 8:36:06 AM  

MegaLib: It is irrelevant.  Vice President Biden will win.  We will win the house and senate.  We will double the number of Justices and pack the SCOTUS with Progressives.  Republicans will never be relevant again.  They had the chance to pack the court, and were too week.  We won't make that mistake.  We will implement Medicare for all, free Public education, UBI and legally take the guns.  We will build a modern progressive nation with equal rights for all


User name checks out.
 
2020-09-22 8:36:18 AM  

elaw: HighOnCraic: According to Craig S. Lent, the group's leader, People of Praise is neither "nefarious" nor "controversial"...

Yeah, and according to Nixon, Nixon wasn't a crook.


Everyone is the hero of their own story...
 
2020-09-22 8:36:32 AM  

gar1013: havocmike: Why is such an important decision a simple majority vote? Shouldn't something like this be a 2/3rds vote?

Well, the Democrats decided to get rid of the 60 vote requirement for all nominees except Supreme Court Justices because they wanted to stop Republicans from using the filibuster.

Then, when the Dems tried to use the filibuster against Gorsuch, the Republicans decided to return the favor by removing the Supreme Court exception.

Meanwhile, Democrats (like Obama) are fond of saying that the filibuster is racist (despite engaging in the practice), but now find themselves unable to do anything because they put the wheels into motion to limit the ability to use the filibuster to stop nominees.

So in short, the Dems decided to play hardball because Republicans wouldn't just go along with what the Dems wanted, and in the process, they shot themselves in the foot.

Remember this story when you hear Schumer talk about how they should pack the court. It wasn't that long ago that Republicans controlled all three branches, and it will happen again. At that point, if court packing has occurred, expect to see as many justices as there are states in the union


If Biden wins, hopefully the DOJ will investigate and prosecute all the traitorous Republicans. It's a good possibility that the GOP won't survive as all their tops leaders are involved. Hard to pack the courts when you're top officials are hanging in the streets doing Mussolini impressions.

Of course, that vacuum would give QAnon the space they need to become a political party so the crazy ain't over.

/Remember kids... No Republican is safe to elect... evah...
 
2020-09-22 8:36:39 AM  
Will she be the one making decisions on the court, or will her husband be the person making the decisions?
 
2020-09-22 8:37:02 AM  
Let me play the contrarian here.   SHe can BELIEVE whatever the fark she wants, I don't farking care.  I Care about her judicial qualifications and she has...well, none really.   RBG was a judge of the second highet court in the land, the DC Circuit Court of Appeals (aka the Supreme Court's Waiting room) for 13 years before Clinton nominated her to the SCOTUS.  Prior t that she had been a litigator responsible for winning a landmark case.


Comey-Barrett has almost zero courtroom experience, she was a law prof, and she been a judge on the far less consequential 7th circuit for under 3 years.   Put simply she ain't got the chops for the big leagues no matter WHAT her religious beliefs are.

Don't make the Kavanaugh mistake. Blassey-Ford's allegations were important, but they were the wrong focus.   Kavanaugh committed perjury in his first confirmation hearing to be a federal judge in 2005, and the emails released before his scotus confirmation provided written proof of that.   THAT should have been the focus of the questions by Democratic Senators, the FELONY he committed that made him eligible to be disbarred and not able to even serve as a judge
 
2020-09-22 8:37:58 AM  

jso2897: everything these people are crying about and claiming victimization over is THEIR OWN WORK.


"The government is broken--and I intend to prove it!"

"Imma vote for this guy, he ain't some stinking lib!"
"Hey my government is broken!  Stinkin libs!"

Repeat ad nauseum for half a century.
 
2020-09-22 8:38:22 AM  

GardenWeasel: Why are we replacing a Jew with a Catholic?


Most Jews are too liberal, at least in the U.S.
 
2020-09-22 8:38:23 AM  
It's the US. We are all in a cult. Crazy right wingers sponsored by billionaires run your lives.
 
2020-09-22 8:38:40 AM  

bloobeary: Anyone trump picks is illegitimate.


Trump doesn't 'pick' anyone, he simply repeats what he's  been instructed by his Dominionist handlers.

He barely understands what a Supreme Court Justice does.  Yes, I know he has a sister who was a judge, and he's been involved in thousands of legal cases, but reading his depositions reveals that he's oblivious to the actual legal issues, and just blathers on and on about himself.
 
2020-09-22 8:39:04 AM  

raius: gar1013: havocmike: Why is such an important decision a simple majority vote? Shouldn't something like this be a 2/3rds vote?

Well, the Democrats decided to get rid of the 60 vote requirement for all nominees except Supreme Court Justices because they wanted to stop Republicans from using the filibuster.

Then, when the Dems tried to use the filibuster against Gorsuch, the Republicans decided to return the favor by removing the Supreme Court exception.

Meanwhile, Democrats (like Obama) are fond of saying that the filibuster is racist (despite engaging in the practice), but now find themselves unable to do anything because they put the wheels into motion to limit the ability to use the filibuster to stop nominees.

So in short, the Dems decided to play hardball because Republicans wouldn't just go along with what the Dems wanted, and in the process, they shot themselves in the foot.

Remember this story when you hear Schumer talk about how they should pack the court. It wasn't that long ago that Republicans controlled all three branches, and it will happen again. At that point, if court packing has occurred, expect to see as many justices as there are states in the union

The only reason the Democrats removed it was because the Republicans filibustered everything.  They weren't letting Obama appoint any judges since McConnell decided his primary purpose was to stop anything Obama did.  The Democrats should remove the filibuster, all it does is prevent anything from happening since the Republicans act like a petulant child


Lol. You think Dems don't try to use the filibuster to stop things.

At any rate, glad you agree with the changes that render the Dems impotent in this situation.
 
2020-09-22 8:39:19 AM  

Natalie Portmanteau: GardenWeasel: Why are we replacing a Jew with a Catholic?

right? Gimme a Sikh.


I first read that as sith...I'm Ok with that...
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2020-09-22 8:39:46 AM  
If Ginsburg had retired when she was EIGHTY YEARS OLD instead of wanting to be replaced by someone with the same genitalia then there wouldn't be an argument about a Protestant replacing a Jew with a Catholic against the wishes of another Catholic.

There's no point in being pissed about it now. Everyone has always known the R's main concern is the SC. It was a monumental farkup that will have ramifications for decades.
 
2020-09-22 8:39:46 AM  
One person's cult is another person's key party.
 
2020-09-22 8:39:55 AM  

AnotherAussiefarker: My guess is President Trump didn't have the slightest idea who to pick and Veep Pence came in with the idea. She seems like his pick, an ultra religious person who submits to her husband. I'd be surprised is Pence's fingers weren't on this.


The obsession with Trump is dangerous.  The actual endgame has always been a President Pence and that way lies the road to Gilead.
 
2020-09-22 8:40:23 AM  

MegaLib: It is irrelevant.  Vice President Biden will win.  We will win the house and senate.  We will double the number of Justices and pack the SCOTUS with Progressives.  Republicans will never be relevant again.  They had the chance to pack the court, and were too week.  We won't make that mistake.  We will implement Medicare for all, free Public education, UBI and legally take the guns.  We will build a modern progressive nation with equal rights for all


13 justices, not 18

we have 13 judicial circuits and each of the Justices is supposed to also be the Chief admin judge of a circuit...the number 9 for justices was set when we had nine circuits.  Therefore 13 is merely correctly updating the court.   The fact that it will give dems a 7-6 majority?  well just icing on the cake
 
2020-09-22 8:40:54 AM  

sirrerun: Voiceofreason01: "When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"

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