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(The Intellectualist)   Not to alarm anyone, but Trump's top pick for the Supreme Court seems to be in a cult   (mavenroundtable.io) divider line
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2020-09-22 10:33:19 AM  

eagles95: News reports are saying Rmoney is onboard with a vote right now. So all you saying that Mittens is a Republican with some integrity can go fark yourselves


My surprised face is on a planet that I'll own after I die.
 
2020-09-22 10:37:45 AM  

Tr0mBoNe: What's she doing out there without her husband?!?


Those damn Feminist Overachiever types don't know their place!

Waaaaaitaminnit...
 
2020-09-22 10:39:57 AM  
What happened to good old fashioned WASPs?

This is bottom of the barrel material.
 
2020-09-22 10:42:37 AM  
Some of the group's practices would surprise many faithful Catholics. Members of the group swear a lifelong oath of loyalty, called a covenant, to one another, and are assigned and are accountable to a personal adviser, called a "head" for men and a "handmaid" for women.

Signs you may be doing things wrong #506: You have a handmaiden in 2020
 
2020-09-22 10:42:53 AM  
Wow, the pick hasn't even been announced yet the talking points and unsubstantiated rumor mill has already cranked up to '11'

/FARK, you never fail to disappoint.
//Kavanaugh redux.
 
2020-09-22 10:43:06 AM  
it was either this or a sex scandal
 
2020-09-22 10:43:54 AM  
TheCruxOfTheBiscuitIsTheApostrophe:​ Prank Call of Cthulhu: TheCruxOfTheBiscuitIsTheApostrophe: Prank Call of Cthulhu: TheCruxOfTheBiscuitIsTheApostrophe: Watching the liberals shiat themselves over a woman's religion is just...well....hilarious. Here's a hint. This is not a politically sound strategy.

I'm pretty sure if she were Muslim (HERPA DERPA SHARIA LAW) or a Satanist you guys would be hooting and hollering like enraged howler monkeys.

Be my guest. Keep up the good work!

Oh, or an atheist. You dumbs-dumbs really hate that. How dare someone not believe in a magic invisible white man who lives in the sky and grants wishes.

Hey, I'm not a religious person. But, I do know that attacking people for practicing the predominant religion in a country in which you wish to attain power is not smart.


People of Praise is a bastardized mix of Catholicism and Protestant Pentecostalism that was founded by 30 people in Indiana in 1971. So are they Christians? Mostly. Do they "speak in tongues" believe in faith healing and play with rattle snakes in church? Pretty much. Are their members required to give up a minimum amount of their income to the "church" to maintain membership? Yep. Do they keep the names of the people in their "church" a secret? Yep. Do they adhere to a patriarchal control structure? Yep.

Sounds farked up to me.

But hey, maybe what the Supreme Courts needs a crazy lady waving a snake at litigants. Jazz it up a bit.
 
2020-09-22 10:44:36 AM  
Just to be clear:  Article VI doesn't mean *WE* can't talk about it.   First Amendment and all of that.

But it does mean that Senators can't bring it up in the hearings.  If they do, they should be censured.
 
2020-09-22 10:44:41 AM  

Animatronik: And so the organized smear campaign begins...


Sort of like "Obama is a Muslim" or "Hilary's the head of a secret worldwide pedophile ring"? That kind of smear campaign?
 
2020-09-22 10:46:15 AM  

mksmith: GardenWeasel: Why are we replacing a Jew with a Catholic?

Most Jews are too liberal, at least in the U.S.


Nih ga wut?
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2020-09-22 10:47:22 AM  

Leader O'Cola: sirrerun: Voiceofreason01: "When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"

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Needs a side by side with his upside down bible


Fact checkers apparently agree the Bible was not upside down. Just shows you once again how everything the Libs say is a lie.
 
2020-09-22 10:47:39 AM  

paygun: it was either this or a sex scandal


At least one upthread brought up her smirking children.

/smirk
 
2020-09-22 10:49:19 AM  

dwrash: As a friend used to say to me.. 'experts' are nothing more than 'normalsperts' with attitude.


Wow. You don't usually get to see someone admit in public that they don't believe in the concept of expertise.
 
2020-09-22 10:49:45 AM  

mdemon81: thehobbes: while serving as a pseudo-Marxist outreach throughout Africa, East Asia, and South America?

Marx is spinning at high speed in his grave watching you characterize the Catholic church's conversion efforts in the developing countries as .... Marxist.

Stick to your day job.

/"outreach"
//snort


I'd ask you to educate yourself, but we both know that ain't going to happen. 

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2020-09-22 10:49:46 AM  

Billy Bathsalt: mksmith: GardenWeasel: Why are we replacing a Jew with a Catholic?

Most Jews are too liberal, at least in the U.S.

Nih ga wut?
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Talk about a smear campaign.  He didn't actually dance.
 
2020-09-22 10:50:27 AM  

GardenWeasel: Why are we replacing a Jew with a Catholic?


Gender equality.
 
2020-09-22 10:51:13 AM  

Animatronik: And so the organized smear campaign begins...


What's the point of a smear campaign? She isn't running for President. The people have no say on who is appointed to the SCOTUS.
 
2020-09-22 10:53:37 AM  
godxam:

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The years haven't been kind to Jenny McCarthy.
 
2020-09-22 10:53:45 AM  
Don't bother looking up People Of Praise on Wikipedia. It is quite sanitized.
 
2020-09-22 10:55:11 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: dwrash: As a friend used to say to me.. 'experts' are nothing more than 'normalsperts' with attitude.

Wow. You don't usually get to see someone admit in public that they don't believe in the concept of expertise.


Most folks won't dump on experts,
Then again, some folks'll,
Like dwrash, the slack-jawed yokel!
 
2020-09-22 10:55:46 AM  

PapermonkeyExpress: //Kavanaugh redux.


She's a rapist, too?!
 
2020-09-22 10:56:43 AM  

Fart_Machine: gar1013: raius: What_Would_Jimi_Do: biden is in the same cult.

No one cares that she's Catholic.  Stop conflating Catholicism with what she's doing.

Can you even read? Go back and see how many people are complaining about her being Catholic.

FFS, stop lying.

Her cult has both Catholics and Protestants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_o​f_Praise


Nope, their cult has pretty much all christian faiths, they don't turn away tithes from anyone that says Jesus on Sundays. From their website.

Jesus desires unity for all people. We live out this unity the best we can, in spite of the divisions within Christianity. We are Roman Catholics, Lutherans, Episcopalians, Methodists, Pentecostals, Presbyterians and other denominational and nondenominational Christians. Despite our differences, we are bound together by our Christian baptism. Despite our differences, we worship together. While remaining faithful members of our own churches, we have found a way to live our daily lives together.
 
2020-09-22 10:57:39 AM  

The Glorified Jailer: [Fark user image image 600x400]

Embrace the cult leader, Idiots all of you.


Calling others idiots without reading the article.

/chef's kiss
 
2020-09-22 10:58:39 AM  

dwrash: liberals have been cruel to them for 40+ years


so so cruel.. what with those evil social safety nets.. and the right to privacy and freedom and justic for ALL.. so so mean and cruel. gtfo
 
2020-09-22 10:58:52 AM  

Fart_Machine: Someone Else's Alt: way south: *Sigh*, So now Catholics are a cult...

I think the democrats forgot that they needed people to vote for them at some point.

Yep, what would you call an organization that has systematically covered up, from threatening and lying to to the victims families all the way to the farking Pope, and lied about decades of rape and sexual assault of thousands of minors in their charge?

Problems with the Church aside, the issue isn't that she's Catholic.  The issue is that she's part of a loony Para church cult.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_o​f_Praise


Yeah, I know, I was responding directly idea that Catholicism isn't a cult.
 
2020-09-22 10:59:16 AM  
What the fark did I say in the other thread about how easy it is to goad white suburban women into admitting they want dead f-gs?
This cult absolutely believes in look at the end of the URL Leviticus 20:13
 
2020-09-22 10:59:54 AM  

Flaming Yawn: Leader O'Cola: sirrerun: Voiceofreason01: "When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross"

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Needs a side by side with his upside down bible

Fact checkers apparently agree the Bible was not upside down. Just shows you once again how everything the Libs say is a lie.


It's telling that from that whole episode(gassing people and removing them forcefully for a publicity stunt that was condemned by the actual church he used as a prop,etc.) that what you care about is which way he held a book. That's you and your brethren, can't understand anything but surface level trivialities.
 
2020-09-22 11:00:23 AM  

thehobbes: Someone Else's Alt: way south: *Sigh*, So now Catholics are a cult...

I think the democrats forgot that they needed people to vote for them at some point.

Yep, what would you call an organization that has systematically covered up, from threatening and lying to to the victims families all the way to the farking Pope, and lied about decades of rape and sexual assault of thousands of minors in their charge?

A massive bureaucracy that has over a billion of followers, nearly a half million priests, millions of other religious followers, that has been the bedrock of Europe since the fall of Rome while serving as a pseudo-Marxist outreach throughout Africa, East Asia, and South America?


You misspelled pedophile sex ring.
 
2020-09-22 11:01:47 AM  
Also: non-voters could have prevented this.  They chose to stay home.
 
2020-09-22 11:02:43 AM  

thatguyoverthere70: dwrash: As a friend used to say to me.. 'experts' are nothing more than 'normalsperts' with attitude.

Wow. You don't usually get to see someone admit in public that they don't believe in the concept of expertise.


For everyone that claims to be an expert.. there are many others that are even better in the subject/field... always.
 
2020-09-22 11:04:37 AM  

dwrash: thatguyoverthere70: dwrash: As a friend used to say to me.. 'experts' are nothing more than 'normalsperts' with attitude.

Wow. You don't usually get to see someone admit in public that they don't believe in the concept of expertise.

For everyone that claims to be an expert.. there are many others that are even better in the subject/field... always.


And how do you measure whether someone is an expert anymore given that college degrees are pretty much passed out like pez candy to undeserving and unqualified folks?
 
2020-09-22 11:04:38 AM  

Datanerd: Vlad_the_Inaner: dittybopper: If you're saying she can't be confirmed because of her religious beliefs (or lack thereof, if that applied), that's a flat-out violation of Article VI.

Doesn't matter if she's in a "cult" or not. It's a blanket prohibition with no exceptions.

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/What's the problem, its just a religion.  Participation should be no bar to office

Could be worse, could be Scientologists.

/Xenu, take the wheel.


Not worse, same thing.

There is no fundamental difference in believing in invisible sky magicians that get all pissy if you don't pray correctly by filling the tithe basket on Sunday and invisible sky magicians from other planets that get all pissy if you pray correctly by filling the tithe basket on Sunday.
 
2020-09-22 11:04:52 AM  
Members of the group swear a lifelong oath of loyalty, called a covenant, to one another, and are assigned and are accountable to a personal adviser, called a "head" for men and a "handmaid" for women. The group teaches that husbands are the heads of their wives and should take authority over the family.

Oh FFS.

raius: Yeah, I'm not sure why some are acting like people are attacking Catholics.


Well, it would suit the GOP to portray any opposition to her as an attack on Catholics.
 
2020-09-22 11:05:53 AM  

dababler: Also: non-voters could have prevented this.  They chose to stay home.


Then I guess the candidate who wanted to win should have given them a reason to farking vote!!!

But I'm sorry, go on. You were using the death knell of democracy in America to redress your grievances against your imagined enemies.
 
2020-09-22 11:06:20 AM  
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Russian influence? I don't know what you're talking about. Why don't we discuss it alone...don't mind that idling car with an oversized trunk outside...
 
2020-09-22 11:07:23 AM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: biden is in the same cult.


Jimi would not try to mislead people on Fark.
 
2020-09-22 11:08:11 AM  

Snort: Billy Bathsalt: mksmith: GardenWeasel: Why are we replacing a Jew with a Catholic?

Most Jews are too liberal, at least in the U.S.

Nih ga wut?
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Talk about a smear campaign.  He didn't actually dance.


Just the banjo, eh?

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2020-09-22 11:08:12 AM  

dwrash: dwrash: thatguyoverthere70: dwrash: As a friend used to say to me.. 'experts' are nothing more than 'normalsperts' with attitude.

Wow. You don't usually get to see someone admit in public that they don't believe in the concept of expertise.

For everyone that claims to be an expert.. there are many others that are even better in the subject/field... always.

And how do you measure whether someone is an expert anymore given that college degrees are pretty much passed out like pez candy to undeserving and unqualified folks?


I see the graduate from Dunning-Kruger U has spoken.
 
2020-09-22 11:09:11 AM  
Kristen Wiig will play her, calling it now.
 
2020-09-22 11:09:37 AM  

Malenfant: What_Would_Jimi_Do: biden is in the same cult.

Jimi would not try to mislead people on Fark.


And pick up your puppy!

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2020-09-22 11:10:13 AM  

Fart_Machine: dwrash: dwrash: thatguyoverthere70: dwrash: As a friend used to say to me.. 'experts' are nothing more than 'normalsperts' with attitude.

Wow. You don't usually get to see someone admit in public that they don't believe in the concept of expertise.

For everyone that claims to be an expert.. there are many others that are even better in the subject/field... always.

And how do you measure whether someone is an expert anymore given that college degrees are pretty much passed out like pez candy to undeserving and unqualified folks?

I see the graduate from Dunning-Kruger U has spoken.


Degree inflation is real.. an associates degree is like a high school degree of 40 years ago, an bachelors degree is equivalent to an associates degree and so on and so on.  The real world knows that academia is failing and is continually upping their degree requirements because graduates are just really that bad.
 
2020-09-22 11:11:34 AM  

dwrash: dwrash: thatguyoverthere70: dwrash: As a friend used to say to me.. 'experts' are nothing more than 'normalsperts' with attitude.

Wow. You don't usually get to see someone admit in public that they don't believe in the concept of expertise.

For everyone that claims to be an expert.. there are many others that are even better in the subject/field... always.

And how do you measure whether someone is an expert anymore given that college degrees are pretty much passed out like pez candy to undeserving and unqualified folks?


Agin, dat book lernin' got notin on good ole horse sense.
 
2020-09-22 11:11:35 AM  
The People of Praise website is amazing. It has this incredible story on its blog:

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Pretty amazing, god manifesting a stove like that!

Well, actually what happened was that some dingbat started a grease fire on her stove that burned up the kitchen wall, filled the house with greasy smoke, and destroyed her stove. But, as luck would have it, somebody else in town was getting rid of some old used stove and...(get ready, this is the miraculous part)...gave it to her. Absolutely incredible. Way to go, god. I mean, he could have put out that grease fire, or protected that stove with magic, or stopped the fire from even starting in the first place, but redirecting some crap used appliance from the landfill to her house was the next best miracle. The part where they actually had to drag it through some cruddy ally to get it to her house, instead of it levitating there, or a rental truck being hired on the Holy Credit Card was also a particularly miraculous detail. I know I'm a believer now.
 
2020-09-22 11:12:50 AM  
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2020-09-22 11:14:34 AM  

Mugato: dwrash: dwrash: thatguyoverthere70: dwrash: As a friend used to say to me.. 'experts' are nothing more than 'normalsperts' with attitude.

Wow. You don't usually get to see someone admit in public that they don't believe in the concept of expertise.

For everyone that claims to be an expert.. there are many others that are even better in the subject/field... always.

And how do you measure whether someone is an expert anymore given that college degrees are pretty much passed out like pez candy to undeserving and unqualified folks?

Agin, dat book lernin' got notin on good ole horse sense.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Credent​i​alism_and_educational_inflation

its real.  Your degree is worth maybe half of what it used to be and is no longer an indication of ability or talent.
 
2020-09-22 11:15:22 AM  
If Trump considers "will get me electoral votes" it'll be Barbara Lagoa and the outrage over SCOTUS appointments will be hard to justify without anti Hispanic accusations.  I still think he's not that smart.
 
2020-09-22 11:16:19 AM  

dwrash: Fart_Machine: dwrash: dwrash: thatguyoverthere70: dwrash: As a friend used to say to me.. 'experts' are nothing more than 'normalsperts' with attitude.

Wow. You don't usually get to see someone admit in public that they don't believe in the concept of expertise.

For everyone that claims to be an expert.. there are many others that are even better in the subject/field... always.

And how do you measure whether someone is an expert anymore given that college degrees are pretty much passed out like pez candy to undeserving and unqualified folks?

I see the graduate from Dunning-Kruger U has spoken.

Degree inflation is real.. an associates degree is like a high school degree of 40 years ago, an bachelors degree is equivalent to an associates degree and so on and so on.  The real world knows that academia is failing and is continually upping their degree requirements because graduates are just really that bad.


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What the "real world experts" look like.
 
2020-09-22 11:16:52 AM  

Mugato: dwrash: dwrash: thatguyoverthere70: dwrash: As a friend used to say to me.. 'experts' are nothing more than 'normalsperts' with attitude.

Wow. You don't usually get to see someone admit in public that they don't believe in the concept of expertise.

For everyone that claims to be an expert.. there are many others that are even better in the subject/field... always.

And how do you measure whether someone is an expert anymore given that college degrees are pretty much passed out like pez candy to undeserving and unqualified folks?

Agin, dat book lernin' got notin on good ole horse sense.


This is why I think politicians should require more then just getting elected to hold office.  You should have to pass at least a basic civics course, something to show you understand how government is supposed to function.  All these common sense outsiders are generally disasters.
 
2020-09-22 11:19:17 AM  

way south: *Sigh*, So now Catholics are a cult...

I think the democrats forgot that they needed people to vote for them at some point.


NO.

barret is catholic, but not a "normal" one. just as pence and mother are "evangelical catholics" she is a "charismatic catholic".

what the hell does that mean? it means she's a sworn life-long member of "people of praise" a "parachurch" group that embraces things like speaking in tongues. this is NOT standard catholic practice or doctrine, the most famous charismatic church in america is probably the pentecostals AKA "holy rollers" and "snake handlers".

barret may be a brilliant woman and an honest legal scholar and practitioner, but make no mistake she herself said:

"I'm just going to identify one way in which I hope that you, as graduates of Notre Dame, will fulfill the promise of being a different kind of lawyer. And that is this: that you will always keep in mind that your legal career is but a means to an end, and as Father Jenkins told you this morning, that end is building the kingdom of God."

Associate Professor Amy Coney Barrett, Diploma Ceremony Address

this is much MORE dangerous than a hyper-partisan court justice, this woman believes with her whole heart she is on a mission from god. do you think for one second she will let "legal precedent" have more impact on her decisions than reshaping america to be more "godly"?

she's respected. she's smart, she's female, she's conventionally attractive, she's only 48 years old, and she is DANGEROUS to every single american who wishes NOT to live under a theocracy.

she's also a trumper on immigration issues, but she probably chalks that up to "jesus" as well.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/p​o​litics/2020/09/19/amy-coney-barrett-fi​ve-things-you-need-know-possible-supre​me-court-pick/5839478002/

https://heavy.com/news/2018/06/amy-co​n​ey-barrett-people-of-praise/

http://thecultofpraise.blogspot.com/2​0​08/05/people-of-praise-sleeping-quarte​rs.html
 
2020-09-22 11:22:12 AM  

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Pretty amazing, god manifesting a stove like that!

Well, actually what happened was that some dingbat started a grease fire on her stove that burned up the kitchen wall, filled the house with greasy smoke, and destroyed her stove. But, as luck would have it, somebody else in town was getting rid of some old used stove and...(get ready, this is the miraculous part)...gave it to her. Absolutely incredible. Way to go, god. I mean, he could have put out that grease fire, or protected that stove with magic, or stopped the fire from even starting in the first place, but redirecting some crap used appliance from the landfill to her house was the next best miracle. The part where they actually had to drag it through some cruddy ally to get it to her house, instead of it levitating there, or a rental truck being hired on the Holy Credit Card was also a particularly miraculous detail. I know I'm a believer now.


If you've ever hung out in Charismatic religious circles, this is what passes for proof of God.

In a lot of places like this, they'll encourage "seekers" to pray "The Skeptic's Prayer." Google that phrase - there are lots of examples. It usually goes something like this:

"God, I don't think I believe in you, but if you're there I'd like to know, so if you're there please reveal yourself because I want to know what's true."

Sounds nice. A little naive, maybe. But inevitably the person encouraging you to pray that will add fine print: You can't ask for a specific sign, because God is not your servant and you can't demand things from him. You can't put a time limit. If you don't see anything, ask again because God likes to make you grovel.

Long story short, you're supposed to wait until you find $5 when you need it, or a person you were thinking about calls you on the phone, or you find someone in your neighborhood getting rid of a stove when you need one, assume that's the answer to your prayer, and therefore declare that God is real, the Bible is inerrant, and serve him for the rest of your life by hating gay people and voting Republican.

Under no circumstances are you allowed to conclude the experiment has failed.

Come to think of it, I would seriously question the legal competence of someone who thought that this method of establishing causality was sound.
 
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