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(KUTV Utah)   Salt Lake PD release body cam video of how officers interacted with unarmed autistic child, after mother told them the best way to approach him. Spoiler alert: then they shoot him   (kutv.com) divider line
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2020-09-21 10:27:58 PM  
As a community, Brown said, "we need to find a way forward" to deal with mental health crises, "which frequently are not criminal in nature."

How about you and your pigs stop killing the people who you're supposed to help, you f*cking pig.
 
2020-09-21 10:55:50 PM  
Alright. That's enough Internet for today. Jesus.
 
2020-09-21 11:38:09 PM  
'Murica.
 
2020-09-22 1:39:28 AM  
He also said the department has a responsibility to learn from what happened.

I don't know what the department has learned, but everyone else is learning not to call the cops unless you want someone dead.
 
2020-09-22 2:05:35 AM  

Bslim: As a community, Brown said, "we need to find a way forward" to deal with mental health crises, "which frequently are not criminal in nature."

How about you and your pigs stop killing the people who you're supposed to help, you f*cking pig.


Yeah, but, its not like they became cops to help people! You're taking all the fun out of the job. Can they at least still rape prostitutes and beat up homeless people?

/sorry, the only way I know how to deal with this is gallows humor.
 
2020-09-22 4:20:13 AM  
At this point is it an accident? The Nazis and same-period Americans infamously castrated or executed the infirm, and to me we're increasingly in "nazis until proven innocent" territory in this country.
 
2020-09-22 4:38:26 AM  

Bslim: As a community, Brown said, "we need to find a way forward" to deal with mental health crises, "which frequently are not criminal in nature."

How about you and your pigs stop killing the people who you're supposed to help, you f*cking pig.


Just keep saying to yourself......Thanks Reagan for all of those shut downs/cuts in the Mental Health system!!!!!

Not saying all "Nut Jobs" need to be locked up just sayin to whom to blame for those who need help & can't get it......
 
2020-09-22 4:40:39 AM  
Mendenhall can go, too. She attempted to help enforce curfew with the cops at the start of the Floyd protests. Was swiftly dropped after ACLU filed suit...
 
2020-09-22 4:46:55 AM  
Well, did he have a weapon or not?  If so, what weapon?  The body cam footage isn't even of the shooter (but is a guy standing behind him, too far away to see anything useful) and doesn't show shiat, beyond the officers yelling at him to get to the ground, the kid not doing that, and the cop blowing him away.
 
2020-09-22 4:48:42 AM  
If the police are really interested in getting help from mental health workers to deescalate incidents like this, they ought to look at what the 'defund the police' proposals contain.
 
2020-09-22 4:50:15 AM  
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2020-09-22 4:50:36 AM  
I'm not going to watch the video. My autistic daughter freezes in stressful situations, so being assaulted or shot by the police when she goes mute is her greatest fear.  I don't think that I could stomach watching it.
 
2020-09-22 4:55:44 AM  
ACAB.
 
2020-09-22 4:59:37 AM  
I was video chatting with my 11 year old autistic grandson yesterday. I can't even imagine him in a similar situation. It farking breaks my heart.
 
2020-09-22 5:07:12 AM  
I saw the video. The kid made the cops run down the street to catch him.

If you make cops run, they will shoot you in the back.
 
2020-09-22 5:13:28 AM  
In Salt Lake City, if somebody is just rambling incoherently and talking to people who aren't there, don't they just make him another Prophet?
 
2020-09-22 5:21:01 AM  
Defund / Abolish
 
2020-09-22 5:23:54 AM  
In the past I would have said "let's wait for more infornation", but at this point the police need to get accurate information out within a day or two of the event at most, not 10 days. If it takes 10 days, thats plenty of time for cops to stand around and watch a city burn on the instructions of the mayor.

The first question is did the kid attack them with a knife or gun and the second is did they use nonlethal force to stop him.

There have been a few cases like this where mommy convenently forgot to tell the cops that their kid was pointing a gun at people.
 
2020-09-22 5:25:09 AM  
Fight, Flight, or Freeze + autistic child brain.

Did they even give him two seconds to process and comply before they started shooting?
 
2020-09-22 5:34:42 AM  
When you can call anyone else other than police and have a better outcome.
 
2020-09-22 5:42:00 AM  
If your only tool is a hammer then every problem looks like a nail.
 
2020-09-22 5:43:47 AM  

Wine Sipping Elitist: I saw the video. The kid made the cops run down the street to catch him.

If you make cops run, they will shoot you in the back.


Yeah, like all those Andy Griffith Show episodes.

I specifically recall the one where Aunt Bee gets her brains blown out during Barney's no knock warrant?
 
2020-09-22 5:44:30 AM  
Seriously waiting for someone to justify this one.

Any.

Minute.

Now.
 
2020-09-22 5:47:26 AM  
MrBiggest: In the past I would have said "let's wait for more infornation", ...

The first question is did the kid attack them with a knife or gun and the second is did they use nonlethal force to stop him why is a child dead?

13, man.

You can't stop a 13 year old child without non lethal force you should not be allowed around children under any circumstances.
 
2020-09-22 5:48:52 AM  
Im angry, so I'd like to reiterate:

13
 
2020-09-22 5:48:57 AM  

MrBiggest: There have been a few cases like this where mommy convenently forgot to tell the cops that their kid was pointing a gun at people.


Citation(s) please.
 
2020-09-22 5:52:36 AM  

largedon: If your only tool is a hammer then every problem looks like a nail.


Give a man a hammer and nails and shortly he'll drive only those he has to.
Give a man a nail gun and it's PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW all the live long day.
 
2020-09-22 6:04:35 AM  

MrBiggest: In the past I would have said "let's wait for more infornation", but at this point the police need to get accurate information out within a day or two of the event at most, not 10 days. If it takes 10 days, thats plenty of time for cops to stand around and watch a city burn on the instructions of the mayor.


The thing is they always have "accurate information".They were there in the first goddamn place. They know what happened. They have to. It's literally their job to keep track of things that happen during an incident and record htem.

That's not what they're coming up with. They're coming up with the framing. The PR department is scraping the excrement out of their pants. They're 'losing' the camera footage, emails, and texts. They're covering their tracks and putting the icing on the big fat fark-up cake and trying to sell it to the public so they don't get their funding cut. They're figuring out how long 'paid leave' should be.

They're cold, calculating bastards. They've done this hundreds and hundreds of times, and they will continue to do it until they're held accountable.

Now, you can tell yourself I just don't like the police, or that I have a problem with authority. You can be wrong. I have a lot of respect for good law-enforcement. The RCMP. The FBI. Some state agencies with good track records that have a reasonable tendency to fire their bastards when they find out about them. You know, where there are hiring standards, and accountability, and not union lawyers and other bastards that turn their back on the mayor every time someone says "Hey maybe the cops should be a little more careful."

But these aren't good law enforcement. They're bastards. They're bastards that shoot kids with mental health problems because they're too goddamn cowardly to use a baton or put up a fistfight, and too stupid to think through all that "go home safe" crap the union cowards teach them.
 
2020-09-22 6:06:31 AM  
I worry about this so much. My daughter has these episodes. The other day she was piddling on her phone and I asked her to help pick up dishes in her room. She just exploded out of nowhere with "fark YOU NO I HATE YOU WHY DONT YOU UNDERSTAND ME YOURE LYING TO ME" etc. Just out of her mind. We called her neurologist etc etc and she's fine now. But if a cop confronted her during one of her episodes....
 
2020-09-22 6:16:55 AM  
Nothing new here, we just now have the technology to record these events.

The system was fatally flawed from the start and now we're all here to witness the dying gasps of a human experiment 243 years in the making.

Hell of a ride...
 
2020-09-22 6:18:37 AM  

mattj1984: I worry about this so much. My daughter has these episodes. The other day she was piddling on her phone and I asked her to help pick up dishes in her room. She just exploded out of nowhere with "fark YOU NO I HATE YOU WHY DONT YOU UNDERSTAND ME YOURE LYING TO ME" etc. Just out of her mind. We called her neurologist etc etc and she's fine now. But if a cop confronted her during one of her episodes....


I don't understand, that seems like a perfectly reasonable response to anything in 2020
 
2020-09-22 6:22:30 AM  

Insain2: Bslim: As a community, Brown said, "we need to find a way forward" to deal with mental health crises, "which frequently are not criminal in nature."

How about you and your pigs stop killing the people who you're supposed to help, you f*cking pig.

Just keep saying to yourself......Thanks Reagan for all of those shut downs/cuts in the Mental Health system!!!!!

Not saying all "Nut Jobs" need to be locked up just sayin to whom to blame for those who need help & can't get it......


We (Democrats) have had 16 years in the Oval Office after Reagan, and have not corrected that issue.
It's easy to place all the blame on the other side, but we need to start taking some responsibility to fix the problem.

Start by voting. Then start writing letters, making phone calls, and sending emails to our elected officials.
It's time to stop blaming the dead guy from the 80's, for not taking care of the mentally ill today.
 
2020-09-22 6:28:51 AM  

Todd300: MrBiggest: In the past I would have said "let's wait for more infornation", ...

The first question is did the kid attack them with a knife or gun and the second is did they use nonlethal force to stop him why is a child dead?

13, man.

You can't stop a 13 year old child without non lethal force you should not be allowed around children under any circumstances.


FYI The kid isn't dead. He's seriously injured. The mother said he wasn't armed and the police haven't said anything about finding a weapon. Apparently they had reports he had a weapon, but no details as to who those reports were from.

This has been another episode of Strong Opinions from People Who Don't RTFA.
 
2020-09-22 6:35:25 AM  
Did that child really say "I don't feel good" after being shot?
 
2020-09-22 6:43:16 AM  

Todd300: MrBiggest: In the past I would have said "let's wait for more infornation", ...

The first question is did the kid attack them with a knife or gun and the second is did they use nonlethal force to stop him why is a child dead?

13, man.

You can't stop a 13 year old child without non lethal force you should not be allowed around children under any circumstances.


Thankfully, the poor kid is alive.

But the rest of your post is still on-point.
 
2020-09-22 6:48:07 AM  

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: Todd300: MrBiggest: In the past I would have said "let's wait for more infornation", ...

The first question is did the kid attack them with a knife or gun and the second is did they use nonlethal force to stop him why is a child dead?

13, man.

You can't stop a 13 year old child without non lethal force you should not be allowed around children under any circumstances.

FYI The kid isn't dead. He's seriously injured. The mother said he wasn't armed and the police haven't said anything about finding a weapon. Apparently they had reports he had a weapon, but no details as to who those reports were from.

This has been another episode of Strong Opinions from People Who Don't RTFA.


"Deadly force, also known as lethal force, is use of force that is likely to cause serious bodily injury or death to another person."

This has been another episode of not knowing what the hell you are talking about, Son.
 
2020-09-22 6:50:21 AM  
Did they try to take his Stretch Armstrong?

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2020-09-22 6:51:01 AM  
Oh I did mistype, sorries. So the cops can't even use lethal force correctly.

Well, this changes everything.
 
2020-09-22 7:03:08 AM  
F*cking pigs.
 
2020-09-22 7:04:01 AM  
If you have a problem and call the cops, you now have two problems.
 
2020-09-22 7:04:14 AM  
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It's a miracle the small dog survived.
 
2020-09-22 7:08:47 AM  
There is no such thing as a "good cop".
 
2020-09-22 7:14:57 AM  

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: Insain2: Bslim: As a community, Brown said, "we need to find a way forward" to deal with mental health crises, "which frequently are not criminal in nature."

How about you and your pigs stop killing the people who you're supposed to help, you f*cking pig.

Just keep saying to yourself......Thanks Reagan for all of those shut downs/cuts in the Mental Health system!!!!!

Not saying all "Nut Jobs" need to be locked up just sayin to whom to blame for those who need help & can't get it......

We (Democrats) have had 16 years in the Oval Office after Reagan, and have not corrected that issue.
It's easy to place all the blame on the other side, but we need to start taking some responsibility to fix the problem.

Start by voting. Then start writing letters, making phone calls, and sending emails to our elected officials.
It's time to stop blaming the dead guy from the 80's, for not taking care of the mentally ill today.


Obviously you are not a student of history.......That's when it "STARTED" & in those 16 years as the Demarats haven5 done any thing to "Change" it either.......either shiat or get off the pot & do something other than type.......
 
2020-09-22 7:18:36 AM  

mattj1984: I worry about this so much. My daughter has these episodes. The other day she was piddling on her phone and I asked her to help pick up dishes in her room. She just exploded out of nowhere with "fark YOU NO I HATE YOU WHY DONT YOU UNDERSTAND ME YOURE LYING TO ME" etc. Just out of her mind. We called her neurologist etc etc and she's fine now. But if a cop confronted her during one of her episodes....


Sounds like normal kid behaviour. When did this become mental disorder territory?
 
2020-09-22 7:18:49 AM  
Now you know why we live in Canada.

To everybody who said "why did you leave America, stay and fight you coward."

First of all, fark you.

Second of all, we have a severely autistic daughter. She is considered non verbal, she has had extremely violent melt downs.  she is a flight risk. One late night she snuck the house keys and escaped, quiet as a mouse. We didn't even know until I got up to use the bathroom. She was in the middle of downtown at a hotel riding up and down the escalators. We called 911. A couple of kindly cops, one male, one female brought her home. They were sympathetic. They knew we were close to losing it and in great distress,

She came back Un Ahmed, laughing as she thought it was an adventure.

We have had to double lock our home. A lock on the inside.

If we were still in the US she'd be dead, I am convinced of this.

She IS the main reason we live in Canada.
 
2020-09-22 7:19:41 AM  
Unharmed not Uh Ahmed.

Strangest autocorrect I have ever seen.
 
2020-09-22 7:25:09 AM  

Sugarmoobs: There is no such thing as a "good cop".


"Because I can't stand answers that require thinking, or that aren't black and white, I just go with "All X are bad."

/quite being a fool
//yes, the police are a farked up mess that needs fixing badly.  This does not equate to every single one is a nutcase
///overall they arrest tends of thousands of people every day across the country in the U.S. alone - do you see 10000+ of these articles every day?  Even 1000?  100 every day?  No?  Wow!  There must be some that aren't psychos on a pretty regular basis maybe?  No way...
 
2020-09-22 7:25:13 AM  

Insain2: Bslim: As a community, Brown said, "we need to find a way forward" to deal with mental health crises, "which frequently are not criminal in nature."

How about you and your pigs stop killing the people who you're supposed to help, you f*cking pig.

Just keep saying to yourself......Thanks Reagan for all of those shut downs/cuts in the Mental Health system!!!!!

Not saying all "Nut Jobs" need to be locked up just sayin to whom to blame for those who need help & can't get it......


Here in Australia we called it 'Better Options for the Mentally Ill".  I remember as a kid in the 80s, seeing the ads and thinking, I bet that's going to mean turning them out into the street.  Spot on!
 
2020-09-22 7:33:27 AM  

Astorix: Unharmed not Uh Ahmed.

Strangest autocorrect I have ever seen.


i actually googled it to better understand your statement and the the closest I found was a Maldivian diplomat which confused me even more.
 
2020-09-22 7:35:50 AM  
Police: "I'm out if my comfort zone. Shoot it!"
 
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