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(Washington Post)   Biden should counter Trump by revealing who he would nominate to replace RBG and it should be Barack Obama   (washingtonpost.com) divider line
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2020-09-21 12:25:42 PM  
Just as long as it's not Lawg Dawg Silva.
 
2020-09-21 12:27:57 PM  
Picking Obama would be... jesus... firestorm right before the election.

I mean, any other time, absolutely. also, Obama is a very moderate man, moderate kind of jurist... Not an even swap for RBG...

I love this idea of Biden announcing a list of candidates... a list... not an exact candidate, but a list of candidates.

If Trump is going to do it, announce who the choices are for voters.
 
2020-09-21 12:43:17 PM  
Dumb idea. Nothing would rally Trump's RACIST base more.
 
2020-09-21 12:43:32 PM  
Subby, such a 'keeder.'
 
2020-09-21 12:45:51 PM  
Merrick Garland
 
2020-09-21 12:47:21 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Dumb idea. Nothing would rally Trump's RACIST base more.


Why not rally liberals?
 
2020-09-21 12:56:43 PM  
No, don't do that.

As if Trumps racist base need another reason to get even more frothy and violent in the next month
 
2020-09-21 12:56:59 PM  
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2020-09-21 12:57:29 PM  
Why give your opponent ammunition to use against you?
 
2020-09-21 12:57:47 PM  
Obama and Garland aren't black females. He already put that litmus test in place for some reason.

Trump should release Biden's list for him. There won't be any surprises.
 
2020-09-21 12:57:54 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Picking Obama would be... jesus... firestorm right before the election.



For max sigginit, he has two Clintons to choose from
 
2020-09-21 12:58:19 PM  

enry: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Dumb idea. Nothing would rally Trump's RACIST base more.

Why not rally liberals?


For the same reason Cat Herder isn't a profession.
 
2020-09-21 12:58:30 PM  
Biden committed to nominating an African American woman months ago.
 
2020-09-21 12:59:35 PM  
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2020-09-21 12:59:37 PM  

pastramithemosterotic: No, don't do that.

As if Trumps racist base need another reason to get even more frothy and violent in the next month


While I think it's always possible for his base to get worse, we are past the point where we need to concerned about their passion.

Fark their passion, fark their anger, fark their feelings. We tried kids gloves last time. It's time to dip the cestus in broken glass...
 
2020-09-21 12:59:46 PM  

enry: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Dumb idea. Nothing would rally Trump's RACIST base more.

Why not rally liberals?


Can't do that.  It might cause the Republicans who were totally gonna not vote for Trump to change their minds.
 
2020-09-21 1:00:07 PM  
That sounds like advice from those who want drama in a reality TV show --- from someone who has drunk the kool-ade that brought us Trump.
 
2020-09-21 1:00:39 PM  

enry: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Dumb idea. Nothing would rally Trump's RACIST base more.

Why not rally liberals?


I'd hope they are already rallied...if the last 4 years haven't lit a fire under their asses, I'm not sure anything will.
 
2020-09-21 1:01:48 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Picking Obama would be... jesus... firestorm right before the election.

I mean, any other time, absolutely. also, Obama is a very moderate man, moderate kind of jurist... Not an even swap for RBG...

I love this idea of Biden announcing a list of candidates... a list... not an exact candidate, but a list of candidates.

If Trump is going to do it, announce who the choices are for voters.


I think that would technically be illegal, no? I don't know the precise law but there's a reason candidates never announce who they'll have as SecDef, Sec of State, etc, before they hold office.
 
2020-09-21 1:01:49 PM  

And yet, as I've written with annoying regularity, this election isn't really about the bases, both of which are already more energized than the core of a nuclear plant.

No, it's going to come down to a slice of independents and conservatives who reluctantly voted for President Trump in 2016 and are trying mightily to find a comfort level with the Democratic nominee this time.

For a lot of these voters, the most obvious bright spot in Trump's otherwise chaotic and unseemly presidency has been the seating of two conventional conservative justices. They see the court as a necessary bulwark against the statism of the ascendant left.


What a bunch of dumb horseshiat.
 
2020-09-21 1:01:57 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Dumb idea. Nothing would rally Trump's RACIST base more.


Michelle Obama?
 
2020-09-21 1:02:24 PM  

Lambskincoat: Just as long as it's not Lawg Dawg Silva.


I don't know who that is but now I'm kinda Team Lawg Dawg Silva
 
2020-09-21 1:02:32 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Dumb idea. Nothing would rally Trump's RACIST base more.


Name me a behavior or action Joe Biden could take that would simultaneously (1) rally Democratic voters to go vote Biden/Harris in November and (2) fail to antagonize Republican voters into voting for another four years of the current president. Any behavior or action, even one completely unrelated to filling the vacancy in the Supreme Court, would be acceptable.
 
2020-09-21 1:03:08 PM  
Close, subby, close.

Michelle Obama.
 
2020-09-21 1:03:11 PM  

Driedsponge: Merrick Garland



He's a great guy and high school classmate of mine, but he's soon 68. We need someone who could reasonably be on the court for a generation.
 
2020-09-21 1:03:30 PM  
I've been saying since 2015 that Hillary should have stepped aside and give Bernie the shot with the agreement that he would name her to the SC. And then Bernie could pick Obama as his second pick.  The head exploding factor would go to eleven.
 
2020-09-21 1:03:34 PM  
That idea just made me spontaneously orgasm...
 
2020-09-21 1:03:56 PM  
Michelle Obama would be a fine choice.
 
2020-09-21 1:04:23 PM  

enry: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Dumb idea. Nothing would rally Trump's RACIST base more.

Why not rally liberals?


Democrats have explicitly decided to not do that for 2+ elections now. They chase conservatives for votes while abandoning liberals and govern according to what conservatives will allow them to do, instead of what they should do.
 
2020-09-21 1:05:05 PM  

Serious Black: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Dumb idea. Nothing would rally Trump's RACIST base more.

Name me a behavior or action Joe Biden could take that would simultaneously (1) rally Democratic voters to go vote Biden/Harris in November and (2) fail to antagonize Republican voters into voting for another four years of the current president. Any behavior or action, even one completely unrelated to filling the vacancy in the Supreme Court, would be acceptable.


Fund Space Force with NASCAR sponsorships?
 
2020-09-21 1:05:26 PM  

Kangaroo_Ralph: Obama and Garland aren't black females. He already put that litmus test in place for some reason.

Trump should release Biden's list for him. There won't be any surprises.


Well then...

"My nominee to fill the vacancy to the Supreme Court will be Michelle Obama."

/cue MAGAts losing their shiat
//cue me LMAO and saying, "Hey, you MAGAts loved 'stickin' it to the libs'; how the receipt feel?"
 
2020-09-21 1:06:14 PM  

bluejeansonfire: enry: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Dumb idea. Nothing would rally Trump's RACIST base more.

Why not rally liberals?

Democrats have explicitly decided to not do that for 2+ elections now. They chase conservatives for votes while abandoning liberals and govern according to what conservatives will allow them to do, instead of what they should do.


They chase independent swing voters. They are well aware it's stupid to waste campaign funds on trump voters.
 
2020-09-21 1:06:17 PM  
Biden should release two lists.  One full of like real judges to fill RBG's spot if its still open when he is elected.  And one of the people he will nominate to pack the courts with if the GOP fills RBGs spot.  Then let them pick their poison. Notable figures on list two should include:

- AOC

- Ilhan Omar

- Anita Sarkeesian

- Hillary Clinton

- Chelsea Clinton

- Rachel Maddow

- Every single woman who has accused Trump of sexual assault

- The founders of Black Lives Matter

- The CEO of Planned Parenthood

- Antifa supersoldier (to be named later)
 
2020-09-21 1:06:53 PM  

NateAsbestos: NewportBarGuy: Picking Obama would be... jesus... firestorm right before the election.

I mean, any other time, absolutely. also, Obama is a very moderate man, moderate kind of jurist... Not an even swap for RBG...

I love this idea of Biden announcing a list of candidates... a list... not an exact candidate, but a list of candidates.

If Trump is going to do it, announce who the choices are for voters.

I think that would technically be illegal, no? I don't know the precise law but there's a reason candidates never announce who they'll have as SecDef, Sec of State, etc, before they hold office.


It's a grey area... I think. I believe it is done to prevent promising jobs for help in getting votes for the election.

But... after this Fartknocker? I'd allow it this one time for a list of nominees. Not a single person.
 
2020-09-21 1:09:07 PM  
But if he does that, he could lose the staunchly anti-ni*BONG* vote that the Democrats have inexplicably come to rely on.
 
2020-09-21 1:10:01 PM  

quiotu: pastramithemosterotic: No, don't do that.

As if Trumps racist base need another reason to get even more frothy and violent in the next month

While I think it's always possible for his base to get worse, we are past the point where we need to concerned about their passion.

Fark their passion, fark their anger, fark their feelings. We tried kids gloves last time. It's time to dip the cestus in broken glass...


I took a short vacation this weekend up to rural SE Iowa to visit some friends who now live there. They took us on a tour of the region. I lost count of how many signs on homes and in yards explicitly said [with corrections to avoid the Fark filter] "TRUMP 2020: NO MORE BULLSHIRT". I also saw one sign that explicitly said [with corrections to avoid the Fark filter] "TRUMP 2020: FORK YOUR FEELINGS". How, exactly, could I calm down such people absent completely caving in to their demands?
 
2020-09-21 1:10:21 PM  
Why on earth would you think Obama would want to job?
 
2020-09-21 1:11:56 PM  
If Trump somehow fails in getting a new nominee through the Senate, Biden pretty much has to nominate Merrick Garland.

If Trump does manage to get a new nominee in place, I'm in favor of increasing the court's size to 13 (not just 11, because FARK YOU).  The first nominee should still be Merrick Garland, but the other three should be the most liberal libs that ever libbed, and young, too, so they stay in place for many decades.
 
2020-09-21 1:12:07 PM  
Biden should promise to nominate whomever Trump nominates. Just say, fine, I'll nominate the same person, you don't have to vote for Trump after all.

/and then don't actually nominate that person
 
2020-09-21 1:12:10 PM  
UIf Joe is putting a list together, add my name.  I'm completely unqualified but I will drive the kegmeister insane.  First, I'll ask him for mentoring advice.  But at the same time, I'll be stealing Sotomayor's' lunch and leaving the empty bag in Keggy's trash can.  I'll defend him to his face but I'll suggest that he's the culprit to the rest of the gang.  On Fridays, I'll send an email from one of the other's computers telling him the judicial drunkfest has been moved when it wasn't.  Then, after the party is way over, I'll call him and tell him to get over here.  But then everyone will leave.  I'll swap his robes with one of the chicks' so he'll have a robe with that chicky fringe on it.  And it will happen on picture day.

In six months, he'll be walking around the office drunk, carrying a trash can lid as a shield against the the lies and deceit, insisting everyone hates him.
 
2020-09-21 1:12:23 PM  
Hey to break this to you Subby.  But a lot of Bernie supporters would frown on that.
 
2020-09-21 1:12:56 PM  
You call that trolling? Amateur.

Trump should appoint Hunter Biden as Secretary of Energy based on Hunter's extensive oil and gas industry experience. That's how you troll.
 
2020-09-21 1:13:17 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Dumb idea. Nothing would rally Trump's RACIST base more.


Fark that. I am no living in fear of what will anger racists. While I'd want a more liberally leaning justice than Obama might be, I would also be pretty ok with him as a lifetime appointee, as long as we also get another, more liberal justice in the future. Someone just a step to the right of Trotsky would be fine with me.
 
2020-09-21 1:13:21 PM  

suebhoney: bluejeansonfire: enry: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Dumb idea. Nothing would rally Trump's RACIST base more.

Why not rally liberals?

Democrats have explicitly decided to not do that for 2+ elections now. They chase conservatives for votes while abandoning liberals and govern according to what conservatives will allow them to do, instead of what they should do.

They chase independent swing voters. They are well aware it's stupid to waste campaign funds on trump voters.


Don't feed the magats cosplaying as Fark "progressives"
 
2020-09-21 1:13:35 PM  

imbrial: Lambskincoat: Just as long as it's not Lawg Dawg Silva.

I don't know who that is but now I'm kinda Team Lawg Dawg Silva


Back in the day, Lawng Dawng Silva was Clarence Thomas' law clerk.
 
2020-09-21 1:13:44 PM  

Man with the Red Eyes: Why on earth would you think Obama would want to job?


He has said he wouldn't want to anyway.
 
2020-09-21 1:16:37 PM  
Step 1: Win election, controlling all three branches.

Step 2: Kill the nuclear option.

Step 3: Pass amendment limiting SCOTUS judges to 12 years.

Step 4: Nominate Obama for SCOTUS.
 
2020-09-21 1:16:54 PM  

I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Dumb idea. Nothing would rally Trump's RACIST base more.


What farking doesn't, though?
 
2020-09-21 1:17:48 PM  

houginator: Biden should release two lists.  One full of like real judges to fill RBG's spot if its still open when he is elected.  And one of the people he will nominate to pack the courts with if the GOP fills RBGs spot.  Then let them pick their poison. Notable figures on list two should include:

- AOC

- Ilhan Omar

- Anita Sarkeesian

- Hillary Clinton

- Chelsea Clinton

- Rachel Maddow

- Every single woman who has accused Trump of sexual assault

- The founders of Black Lives Matter

- The CEO of Planned Parenthood

- Antifa supersoldier (to be named later)


Captain Antifa!
 
2020-09-21 1:19:33 PM  

enry: I am Tom Joad's Complete Lack of Surprise: Dumb idea. Nothing would rally Trump's RACIST base more.

Why not rally liberals?


I don't think an Obama nomination would do that.  The moderate left is already frothing at the mouth to vote for Biden, and the far left won't be rallied by an Obama nomination.  All it would do is rally the Republican base.
 
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