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(The Week)   Yertle's smartest move would be to unexpectedly de-escalate the battle to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Might even save him from the turtle soup pot   (theweek.com) divider line
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2020-09-21 5:19:42 AM  
He's not smart.. merely unrestrained by rules, laws, the Constitution, ethics, morals, virtues...
 
2020-09-21 5:52:29 AM  
Can you imagine the shock if McConnell were to back off of his pledge to give a nominee a vote before the next president is inaugurated?

Mitch McConnell doing the right and decent thing would be very shocking at this point.  He has no decency or respect.
 
2020-09-21 6:13:01 AM  
McConnell is heavily favored to retain his seat. A more realistic scenario is that the Ds win control of the Senate and Moscow Mitch becomes far less relevant.
 
2020-09-21 6:21:30 AM  
He doesn't care.  If he gets beat because he enabled Trump to appoint 3 SCOTUS Justices and hundreds of federal judges, then he'll retire happy.

This is what he's wanted.  This is why he's put up with Trump's bullshiat all these years.

He wants to mold the court in a way that it'll be decades before we can unfark it.
 
2020-09-21 6:52:53 AM  
What? Evacuate? In his moment of triumph?
 
2020-09-21 7:20:25 AM  
He has the power and he will wield it. The only way MM would possibly back off is if his Russian or Chinese handlers ordered it.
 
2020-09-21 8:25:13 AM  
The only things he cares about are being Senate Majority Leader and using the power he has. He's going to try to push through a vote and the only reason he would stand down here would be if he didn't have the votes to seat a candidate. He gets off on doing shiat like this.
 
2020-09-21 8:49:35 AM  

Alphax: He's not smart.. merely unrestrained by rules, laws, the Constitution, ethics, morals, virtues...


And this is his goal- delivering a tame judiciary to give the seal of legality to all the shiatty things he wishes to do.
 
2020-09-21 8:53:58 AM  
And the futures market looks like it's tanking. What's going to happen when Trump wants to save the stock market and McConnell wants a judge? You can only choose one.
 
2020-09-21 8:54:02 AM  
But how would that stick it to the libs?
 
2020-09-21 8:54:13 AM  

Alphax: He's not smart.. merely unrestrained by rules, laws, the Constitution, ethics, morals, virtues...


You don't have to be smart to be a politician, only clever.
Sneaky helps, too.
 
2020-09-21 8:55:14 AM  
I didn't used to be one of those people who just wants to sit back and watch it all burn to ashes, but this year has changed me a bit.
 
2020-09-21 8:55:28 AM  

Alphax: He's not smart.. merely unrestrained by rules, laws, the Constitution, ethics, morals, virtues...


I have to disagree, he's extremely intelligent. He acts deliberately with malice.
 
2020-09-21 8:55:46 AM  
They're ramming that Catholic lady through. It'll all be done by mid October.
 
2020-09-21 8:56:13 AM  

AdmirableSnackbar: The only things he cares about are being Senate Majority Leader and using the power he has. He's going to try to push through a vote and the only reason he would stand down here would be if he didn't have the votes to seat a candidate. He gets off on doing shiat like this.


Yup. His smirk in the 2019 portion of the video says it all.
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2020-09-21 8:56:27 AM  
Kentucky is going to reelect him until the day he dies, he's in no danger of losing no matter what he does.
 
2020-09-21 8:56:39 AM  
They've painted themselves into a corner and the door is way across the room.

If they push through a nomination, Dems and independents will make them pay on election day.

If they don't, Trump will trash them and Trump republicans will stay home.

What to do, Mitch (and Ernst, Collins, Gardner and Tillis)? What to do?
 
2020-09-21 8:56:41 AM  
I wonder if the vulnerable R Senators are begging him behind closed doors to not push a nominee and cost them their slim reelection chances.
 
2020-09-21 8:57:50 AM  
Mitch already knows they are losing the Senate.
 
2020-09-21 8:57:59 AM  

Hand Banana: Kentucky is going to reelect him until the day he dies, he's in no danger of losing no matter what he does.


hmmm maybe Chuck Schumer shouldn't decide who Mitch gets to run against
 
2020-09-21 8:58:25 AM  
This is Mitch McConnell we're talking about. I expect nothing less than the absolute worst possible outcome.
 
2020-09-21 8:58:31 AM  
You know that a-hole who speeds past you every morning on the interstate?  I mean, like 100 mph?  One day, you see him pulled over by the state troopers and you think "Ha!  His uppance has finally come!  But the very next day:  A-hole going 100 mph.

That's turtleman.

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Turtleman went back to the bastard coating room for three extra coats.
 
2020-09-21 9:00:23 AM  

Decorus: Mitch already knows they are losing the Senate.


I think you're right.

And he's throwing Graham to the wolves. Bwhahahaha.
 
2020-09-21 9:00:49 AM  

Harry Freakstorm: You know that a-hole who speeds past you every morning on the interstate?


This hurts.  I haven't driven a car in 6 months, but yeah, I remember that guy.
 
2020-09-21 9:01:03 AM  

Decorus: Mitch already knows they are losing the Senate.


And he did the math between losing temporary Senate seats and a lifetime Judge appointment
 
2020-09-21 9:02:11 AM  

ElwoodCuse: Hand Banana: Kentucky is going to reelect him until the day he dies, he's in no danger of losing no matter what he does.

hmmm maybe Chuck Schumer shouldn't decide who Mitch gets to run against


Booker wouldn't have beaten him either; I don't think even Jesus himself could win against Mitch in Kentucky. Ignorant yokels...
 
2020-09-21 9:03:18 AM  

Lumbar Puncture: Decorus: Mitch already knows they are losing the Senate.

And he did the math between losing temporary Senate seats and a lifetime Judge appointment


But he's not accounting for an expanded court if Dems win the Senate.

Biden isn't going to push for that. But he won't veto it if it gets dropped on his desk.
 
2020-09-21 9:04:21 AM  

b0rg9: They're ramming that Catholic lady through. It'll all be done by mid October.


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2020-09-21 9:04:29 AM  

Hand Banana: ElwoodCuse: Hand Banana: Kentucky is going to reelect him until the day he dies, he's in no danger of losing no matter what he does.

hmmm maybe Chuck Schumer shouldn't decide who Mitch gets to run against

Booker wouldn't have beaten him either; I don't think even Jesus himself could win against Mitch in Kentucky. Ignorant yokels...


That guy thinks only progressives can win any race.
 
2020-09-21 9:04:38 AM  
The vote (and likely even the nomination) will be delayed until after the election.  But they'll choose a new Supreme Court Justice before January.
 
2020-09-21 9:04:58 AM  
the lady who couldn't beat Andy Barr in a single congressional district for goddamn sure was a terrible choice that should have been obvious from a mile away
 
2020-09-21 9:06:33 AM  

Decorus: Mitch already knows they are losing the Senate.


Yeah - but he doesn't know when, and knows he is going to die/retire soon anyway.
He has no disincentive to keep doing what he does, at this point.
 
2020-09-21 9:06:44 AM  
This ignores that to him, getting a 23 year old potato in this SC seat is more important than winning elections.
 
2020-09-21 9:08:11 AM  
His voter base in Kentucky might be appalled at such a blatant and hypocritical power grab, but their only option is to roll over and take it. What else can they do, vote for a democrat?

They've already made it clear they prefer being subjugated to Russian style authoritarianism over tax increases to provide healthcare and take care of the environment.
 
2020-09-21 9:08:13 AM  

Program User: The vote (and likely even the nomination) will be delayed until after the election.  But they'll choose a new Supreme Court Justice before January.


Trump won't stand for that.

He wants (and frankly needs) that justice seated so he can leverage them to rule in his favor on election challenges.

They (vulnerable republicans) are screwed no matter what happens.

Push to seat the justice? Dems and independents will vote them out.

Push off a vote until after the election? Trump will trash them and his base will reject them.
 
2020-09-21 9:09:12 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: They've painted themselves into a corner and the door is way across the room.

If they push through a nomination, Dems and independents will make them pay on election day.

If they don't, Trump will trash them and Trump republicans will stay home.

What to do, Mitch (and Ernst, Collins, Gardner and Tillis)? What to do?


Not just them. Collins is losing her race by a decent amount because of her Kavanaugh vote.  Voters remember and the 2022 Senate election map is even more bleak for the Republicans. Tommey from PA is up for re-election in 2022 as is Murkowski. Marco Rubio is up in a state that could flip blue. The NC seat will be open and Dem Cunningham is currently beating the incumbent Tillis in this year's race. It's not just this election. McConnell may not be worried about his seat, but many others are. And what's the use of having a conservative Justice if any conservative ruling against women's rights or gay rights or voting rights can just be overturned by passing a bill through Congress. Imagine if the Democrats could've fixed Citizen United or the voting rights act by simply passing a new bill.
 
2020-09-21 9:10:51 AM  
Their smartest move would be to tap Garland and dare democrats to vote against him. Replacing RBG with a moderate judge like garland would be a tragedy.
 
2020-09-21 9:10:56 AM  

Boondock3806: His voter base in Kentucky might be appalled at such a blatant and hypocritical power grab, but their only option is to roll over and take it. What else can they do, vote for a democrat?

They've already made it clear they prefer being subjugated to Russian style authoritarianism over tax increases to provide healthcare and take care of the environment.


Mitch isn't likely to lose his seat. FFS, they think of the picture of him with the confederate flag behind him as a positive.

But Graham, Ernst, Collins, and a few others are definitely going to be at a huge disadvantage on election day.

They might, as time goes on, wish RBG hadn't passed away this close to election day. Mitch won't. But the unemployed incumbents will.
 
2020-09-21 9:11:24 AM  
Hmm, 25% of the comments in this thread aren't showing up for me.

Whoever the threadshiatter is, you people should know better than to feed it.
 
2020-09-21 9:12:06 AM  
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De-escalate, evacuate, etc.
 
2020-09-21 9:13:51 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: Lumbar Puncture: Decorus: Mitch already knows they are losing the Senate.

And he did the math between losing temporary Senate seats and a lifetime Judge appointment

But he's not accounting for an expanded court if Dems win the Senate.

Biden isn't going to push for that. But he won't veto it if it gets dropped on his desk.


Or a judicial reform bill that includes an expanded Supreme Court plus minimum qualification standards for lifetime federal appointments, retirement age or term limits, and more. How many of his federal judges will become stuck in dead-end jobs because they didn't have the qualifications for that job to begin with and now don't even meet the bare minimum to be promoted?
 
2020-09-21 9:14:40 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: Lumbar Puncture: Decorus: Mitch already knows they are losing the Senate.

And he did the math between losing temporary Senate seats and a lifetime Judge appointment

But he's not accounting for an expanded court if Dems win the Senate.

Biden isn't going to push for that. But he won't veto it if it gets dropped on his desk.


But realistically what're the odds of the Dems doing that? I'd love for it to happen, and for DC and PR to be officially considered states worthy of representation of their populations, but I wouldn't put money on it even in a best case scenario.
 
2020-09-21 9:14:52 AM  
Pushing through a SCOTUS member right now: This will cause Democrats to come out and vote in droves, probably lose a lot of the suburban independent women over "fairness" that they have been actively courting. Republican voters probably don't change much...the sense of urgency is over as they "have finally won". Doing this basically signifies that Republicans think that Trump is toast no matter what he does, and they are going to willingly sacrifice him to the electoral gods.

Waiting on a SCOTUS member: Energizes the republican base ( and possibly even more so) just as much as Democrats, you probably win over more of the suburban women this way with a sense gracious sense of fairness. This make the election entirely about the Supreme Court, and every other single bad thing that Trump has done disappears for the next month. If Republicans think they can salvage Trump's re-election chances, this is the path you take.

Of course, the fly in the ointment is that Trump REALLY REALLY REALLY wants to do this now, because he has the impulse control of a toddler.
 
2020-09-21 9:16:04 AM  

Earguy: McConnell is heavily favored to retain his seat. A more realistic scenario is that the Ds win control of the Senate and Moscow Mitch becomes far less relevant.


Then he can go back to filibustering everything just like the Obama years. He's the most consequential politician in the last 20 years. I hate his politics, but damned if I'm not impressed by his success.
 
2020-09-21 9:16:07 AM  
He's better off doing the wrong thing and relying on Americans being morons with the attention span of a goldfish. He appoints his justice. Gets that win and by the midterm, no one will remember how we ended up like that. Most of the people who didn't vote before, and claimed this one thing was gonna get them to the polls, will just not show up for the midterm because two years was enough to get over it and the midterms aren't inspiring.
 
2020-09-21 9:17:03 AM  
I'd hazard a guess that Mitch is savvy enough to split the difference and drag it out till after the election- he gets to look like a loyal Trumper, but not force any of the R Senators in tight races to commit to a vote.

I don't think it'll really help him, but it seems to be the least catastrophic (for him, not the country) choice he could make.
 
2020-09-21 9:18:56 AM  

Shaggy_C: Earguy: McConnell is heavily favored to retain his seat. A more realistic scenario is that the Ds win control of the Senate and Moscow Mitch becomes far less relevant.

Then he can go back to filibustering everything just like the Obama years. He's the most consequential politician in the last 20 years. I hate his politics, but damned if I'm not impressed by his success.


The filibuster isn't going to survive. The only reason it's not gone now is that is has no practical effect if democrats control the house while republicans control the senate.
 
2020-09-21 9:19:38 AM  
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2020-09-21 9:23:19 AM  

keldaria: Shaggy_C: Earguy: McConnell is heavily favored to retain his seat. A more realistic scenario is that the Ds win control of the Senate and Moscow Mitch becomes far less relevant.

Then he can go back to filibustering everything just like the Obama years. He's the most consequential politician in the last 20 years. I hate his politics, but damned if I'm not impressed by his success.

The filibuster isn't going to survive. The only reason it's not gone now is that is has no practical effect if democrats control the house while republicans control the senate.


In my opinion, the filibuster has stalled more good legislation that it has enabled bad.
 
2020-09-21 9:25:36 AM  

OldRod: He doesn't care.  If he gets beat because he enabled Trump to appoint 3 SCOTUS Justices and hundreds of federal judges, then he'll retire happy.

This is what he's wanted.  This is why he's put up with Trump's bullshiat all these years.

He wants to mold the court in a way that it'll be decades before we can unfark it.


So much this.
 
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