Skip to content
 
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(Variety)   Way to go, nerds: 'Watchmen' Makes History as First Comic-Book Adaptation to Earn Top Emmy   (variety.com) divider line
    More: Spiffy, Academy Award, Comic book, Graphic novel, Watchmen, Alan Moore, best limited series, Damon Lindelof, Marvel Comics  
•       •       •

419 clicks; posted to Entertainment » on 21 Sep 2020 at 6:06 AM (4 weeks ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook



44 Comments     (+0 »)
 
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest
 
2020-09-21 6:23:34 AM  
Saturday Morning Watchmen
Youtube YDDHHrt6l4w


/oblig
 
2020-09-21 7:00:49 AM  
At least they went with the squid option.
 
2020-09-21 7:13:15 AM  
That's assuming you place a value on an Emmy.
 
2020-09-21 7:40:19 AM  

mmojo: That's assuming you place a value on an Emmy.


It's only valuable if something you like wins.  If not, the Emmys are a farce.
 
2020-09-21 8:06:37 AM  

Kerr Avon: At least they went with the squid option.


I was very pleased with how they followed through with the squid option. I had my doubts in the beginning but by the end of the first season I loved it and I have watched it again, seeing how many smaller details I pick up on now.
 
2020-09-21 8:10:00 AM  
Wonder if it'll win next season, too.

Oh, wait...
 
2020-09-21 8:15:40 AM  

rummonkey: Kerr Avon: At least they went with the squid option.

I was very pleased with how they followed through with the squid option. I had my doubts in the beginning but by the end of the first season I loved it and I have watched it again, seeing how many smaller details I pick up on now.


There's a lot of call-backs, a fun game in it's own right.
 
2020-09-21 8:23:29 AM  
Well deserved imo.
 
2020-09-21 8:35:18 AM  
Watched the first 2 episodes while it screamed "Racism" at me.  Wanted to watch Lovecraft Country until the synopsis scream "Racism" at me.  Just exhausted...
 
2020-09-21 8:50:16 AM  

cartersdad: Watched the first 2 episodes while it screamed "Racism" at me.  Wanted to watch Lovecraft Country until the synopsis scream "Racism" at me.  Just exhausted...


Fark user imageView Full Size
 
2020-09-21 9:12:48 AM  

cartersdad: Watched the first 2 episodes while it screamed "Racism" at me.  Wanted to watch Lovecraft Country until the synopsis scream "Racism" at me.  Just exhausted...


Do you need a safe space?
 
2020-09-21 9:27:20 AM  
Overall I thought it was good, but a) people who never read the original GN must have been very confused, and b) they got Dr Manhattan completely wrong.

\they also seemed to have gotten Ozymandius wrong, but I put that down to him going mad while stranded.
\\\and I don't buy Laurie being so easily trapped. She's the smartest one in the room until the plot requires her to be an idiot.
\\\and what happened to Night Owl?
 
2020-09-21 9:31:06 AM  
"The Boys" would be winning lots of awards if it wasn't quite so "colorful."

And by "colorful," I mean "incredibly gory."
 
2020-09-21 9:33:44 AM  

cartersdad: Watched the first 2 episodes while it screamed "Racism" at me.  Wanted to watch Lovecraft Country until the synopsis scream "Racism" at me.  Just exhausted...


I had a similar problem with the Watchmen comic. It's like "ugh if I wanted relevant and topical commentary on modern America I'd watch Walter Cronkite, where're my Archie comics... wait, who's what now? Jesus not even those are safe".
 
2020-09-21 9:35:53 AM  

cirby: "The Boys" would be winning lots of awards if it wasn't quite so "colorful."

And by "colorful," I mean "incredibly gory."


I consider any show that has someone graphically ripping the face off of another person to be high art.
 
2020-09-21 9:46:25 AM  

cartersdad: Watched the first 2 episodes while it screamed "Racism" at me.  Wanted to watch Lovecraft Country until the synopsis scream "Racism" at me.  Just exhausted...


Now why would anyone expect racist undertones in Lovecraft Country?
 
2020-09-21 10:14:35 AM  

cartersdad: Watched the first 2 episodes while it screamed "Racism" at me.  Wanted to watch Lovecraft Country until the synopsis scream "Racism" at me.  Just exhausted...



Maybe something relaxing like the 'Umbrella Academy' will help you get past it.
 
2020-09-21 10:23:46 AM  

Spartapuss: cartersdad: Watched the first 2 episodes while it screamed "Racism" at me.  Wanted to watch Lovecraft Country until the synopsis scream "Racism" at me.  Just exhausted...

Now why would anyone expect racist undertones in Lovecraft Country?


HP's cat wrote 3 episodes!
 
2020-09-21 10:26:12 AM  
I really liked Watchmen. I had not read the comics, and I liked the movie but my kids were telling me the movie wasn't exactly accurate, so I had higher hopes for the series. I had to pretend to know all about the Tulsa massacre when my kids asked if that was true ("Hell yes that happened...read a damn book once in your life." during the 2nd viewing after I consulted wikipedia after the 1st viewing), but overall I thought it was excellent. I'm glad it was recognized with an Emmy.
 
2020-09-21 10:33:52 AM  

MagSeven: Spartapuss: cartersdad: Watched the first 2 episodes while it screamed "Racism" at me.  Wanted to watch Lovecraft Country until the synopsis scream "Racism" at me.  Just exhausted...

Now why would anyone expect racist undertones in Lovecraft Country?

HP's cat wrote 3 episodes!


Fark, they'll have to censor the credits for that one. That might be a first.
 
2020-09-21 10:50:44 AM  

CarnySaur: mmojo: That's assuming you place a value on an Emmy.

It's only valuable if something you like wins.  If not, the Emmys are a farce.


Sometimes they have great value. In what way are they a farce?
 
2020-09-21 11:13:39 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Overall I thought it was good, but a) people who never read the original GN must have been very confused, and b) they got Dr Manhattan completely wrong.

\they also seemed to have gotten Ozymandius wrong, but I put that down to him going mad while stranded.
\\\and I don't buy Laurie being so easily trapped. She's the smartest one in the room until the plot requires her to be an idiot.
\\\and what happened to Night Owl?


I think they did fine with Manhattan, but I've discussed that several times before.

On Ozy, I agree; his behavioral change is due to his time on Europa. I equate it with how people argue on social media. The distance, the lack of direct personal contact makes it easy to dehumanize opponents and generally act pretty horrible. Ozy was already an egomaniac willing to murder millions to create a utopia. Years of having his ideas ignored and failing to see his utopia come to be have disillusioned him. So he accepts Manhattan's utopia. But being surrounded by servile clones whose existence is meaningless (to him) exacerbates his feelings of superiority and his cruelty. It's all a game, a role to pass the time.

It's worth pointing out, as well, that his behavior on Europa has a utilitarian purpose in keeping with his presentation in the comic: he must kill the clones and use their bodies to spell out his message, which is intentionally long to appeal to Trieu. Moreover, once he returns to earth, his behavior is notably more subdued once he must interact with real people with real stakes on the line.
 
2020-09-21 11:17:16 AM  

cartersdad: Watched the first 2 episodes while it screamed "Racism" at me.  Wanted to watch Lovecraft Country until the synopsis scream "Racism" at me.  Just exhausted...


One of Watchman's hallmarks was dishing out potent social and political commentary relevant to the time and place in which it was published. It's one of the things that made it a landmark work.

What made you think a show trying to be faithful to the spirit of the original wouldn't do the same?

Yes, confronting the realities of racism can be an uncomfortable topic for us pale folks.

But sticking our fingers in our ears and running away whenever the topic comes up isn't really the best reaction.
 
2020-09-21 11:19:10 AM  
Batman the animated series had 5 emmy wins

Batman beyond won two

Superman the animated series had 2 wins

Smallville had 3 wins

Seems to me like a series that was widely panned as meh just spend a metric ton of money to buy the awards,
which sounds right because the only thing that matters for awards are the quality of the bribes you give the voters
 
2020-09-21 11:32:19 AM  

lifeslammer: Batman the animated series had 5 emmy wins

Batman beyond won two

Superman the animated series had 2 wins

Smallville had 3 wins


Way to go, nerds: 'Watchmen' Makes History as First Comic-Book Adaptation to Earn Top Emmy

Bolded for emphasis. A lot of comic books shows have won Emmys, this is the first one to win one people care about. Well, care about as much as anyone cares about Emmys

Seems to me like a series that was widely panned as meh just spend a metric ton of money to buy the awards,
which sounds right because the only thing that matters for awards are the quality of the bribes you give the voters


Widely panned by who? Not critics. And most bad things people have to say about it (at least that I've seen) are people like our friend in this thread who just can't handle social commentary in their TV shows
 
2020-09-21 11:52:33 AM  

lifeslammer: Batman the animated series had 5 emmy wins

Batman beyond won two

Superman the animated series had 2 wins

Smallville had 3 wins

Seems to me like a series that was widely panned as meh just spend a metric ton of money to buy the awards,
which sounds right because the only thing that matters for awards are the quality of the bribes you give the voters


um... what?

Fark user imageView Full Size


Fark user imageView Full Size
Even the 55% audience score isn't because people thought it was meh, but because for every 5 star review praising it, there's a 1 star review from an 'All Lives Matter' Boomer complaining about how it hurt his feefees with all it's woke virtue signalling.

What does meh taste like on your planet?
 
2020-09-21 11:54:16 AM  
TDWCom29:

Widely panned by who? Not critics. And most bad things people have to say about it (at least that I've seen) are people like our friend in this thread who just can't handle social commentary in their TV shows

That'll teach me to waste time trying to find pictorial evidence :)
 
2020-09-21 12:13:45 PM  

lifeslammer: Batman the animated series had 5 emmy wins

Batman beyond won two

Superman the animated series had 2 wins

Smallville had 3 wins



Either you're trolling or can't read.

Batman beyond won two (Daytime Emmys for Best Animated Program, Music Composition)

Superman the animated series had 2 wins (Daytime Emmys for Best Animated Program, Sound Mixing)

Smallville had 3 wins
(Primetime Emmys for Sound design)

lifeslammer:
Seems to me like a series that was widely panned as meh

Ah, the former then.
 
2020-09-21 1:00:14 PM  

Devil's Advocaat: lifeslammer: Batman the animated series had 5 emmy wins

Batman beyond won two

Superman the animated series had 2 wins

Smallville had 3 wins

Seems to me like a series that was widely panned as meh just spend a metric ton of money to buy the awards,
which sounds right because the only thing that matters for awards are the quality of the bribes you give the voters

um... what?

[Fark user image 680x685]

[Fark user image 841x521]Even the 55% audience score isn't because people thought it was meh, but because for every 5 star review praising it, there's a 1 star review from an 'All Lives Matter' Boomer complaining about how it hurt his feefees with all it's woke virtue signalling.

What does meh taste like on your planet?


He meant widely panned by him.
 
2020-09-21 1:07:46 PM  

The Goddamn Batman: He meant widely panned by him.

cdn3.whatculture.comView Full Size


Maybe he panned it, widely.
 
2020-09-21 1:17:47 PM  
Hmm.

Where are the FARK fanbois who declared this series DOA simply because Damon Lindelof was at the helm?

/hmmmmmmmmmmmm???
 
2020-09-21 3:14:39 PM  

peterthx: Hmm.

Where are the FARK fanbois who declared this series DOA simply because Damon Lindelof was at the helm?

/hmmmmmmmmmmmm???


I didn't watch it initially exactly because of that. And I was wrong, it was reasonably good, except for a few bits I mentioned above.

/Prometheus is still garbage
 
2020-09-21 3:26:42 PM  

peterthx: Hmm.

Where are the FARK fanbois who declared this series DOA simply because Damon Lindelof was at the helm?

/hmmmmmmmmmmmm???


I was one. Didn't say it was dead but was highly concerned. DL rocked it.
 
2020-09-21 3:27:48 PM  

peterthx: Hmm.

Where are the FARK fanbois who declared this series DOA simply because Damon Lindelof was at the helm?

/hmmmmmmmmmmmm???


There is a certain subset of farmers for whom Lindelof will always be hated. It doesn't matter what he does, they will hate him. It doesn't matter that The Leftovers and Watchmen have received almost unanimous acclaim as some of the best television of the past decade. For them he will never be redeemed for his work on Lost and Prometheus. Other artists can make bad choices and still be celebrated for their good work. But not Lindelof.
 
2020-09-21 3:28:23 PM  

phlegmjay: peterthx: Hmm.

Where are the FARK fanbois who declared this series DOA simply because Damon Lindelof was at the helm?

/hmmmmmmmmmmmm???

There is a certain subset of farmers for whom Lindelof will always be hated. It doesn't matter what he does, they will hate him. It doesn't matter that The Leftovers and Watchmen have received almost unanimous acclaim as some of the best television of the past decade. For them he will never be redeemed for his work on Lost and Prometheus. Other artists can make bad choices and still be celebrated for their good work. But not Lindelof.


Farkers. Not farmers.

/ That statement is probably true of farmers as well.
 
2020-09-21 3:32:28 PM  

Tyrone Slothrop: peterthx: Hmm.

Where are the FARK fanbois who declared this series DOA simply because Damon Lindelof was at the helm?

/hmmmmmmmmmmmm???

I didn't watch it initially exactly because of that. And I was wrong, it was reasonably good, except for a few bits I mentioned above.

/Prometheus is still garbage


Hey now. Promethius had... uh... many elements, characters, ideas, and scenes, that I wish were in a better movie. Is the best defense I can muster for it.
 
2020-09-21 3:54:18 PM  

fallingcow: Hey now. Promethius had... uh... many elements, characters, ideas, and scenes, that I wish were in a better movie. Is the best defense I can muster for it.


The problem with Prometheus is that Lindelof got the blame for having to incorporate all of Ridley Scott's last second ideas into the original script. Scott would come up with something on set and expect it to be incorporated into the screenplay ASAP. Lindelof's role was more court stenographer than screenwriter.
 
2020-09-21 3:59:42 PM  

phlegmjay: For them he will never be redeemed for his work on Lost


Lost isn't fair either, so much brilliant on that show. People forget the first 3 seasons were absolutely riveting television. Then ABC wanted more-more-more and burned everything out.
 
2020-09-21 4:56:20 PM  

peterthx: phlegmjay: For them he will never be redeemed for his work on Lost

Lost isn't fair either, so much brilliant on that show. People forget the first 3 seasons were absolutely riveting television. Then ABC wanted more-more-more and burned everything out.


I agree that those first seasons were spectacular. "Through the Looking Glass" and "The Constant" are two of the all time great episodes of television ever. However, once they got the go-ahead from ABC to end the series at season 6, they had all the time in the world to tell a great story and end it well. That lack of long-term planning is what made their ending fall apart. Thankfully, shows like Breaking Bad and The Good Place learned from those failures and ended their runs on top.

As for Watchmen, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I loved some of the reveals, including one big secret from the original graphic novel that was just brilliant. I'd love to see more from this universe, but what we got was spectacular.
 
2020-09-21 5:18:55 PM  
soporific:

It's really amazing that it managed to be as true to the original as it was, while also feeling very relevant and not at all dated. It really is Watchmen, but for the 20-teens and 2020s instead of the 1980s, but it's also not just some sort of lazy remake or re-telling in a different year. On paper the show was a terrible idea that should have struggled to produce something watchable at all, but it ended up being farking excellent.
 
2020-09-22 2:22:36 AM  

cartersdad: Watched the first 2 episodes while it screamed "Racism" at me.  Wanted to watch Lovecraft Country until the synopsis scream "Racism" at me.  Just exhausted...


Christ, what an a-hole you must be to be around.
 
2020-09-22 10:50:42 AM  

Devil's Advocaat: cartersdad: Watched the first 2 episodes while it screamed "Racism" at me.  Wanted to watch Lovecraft Country until the synopsis scream "Racism" at me.  Just exhausted...

[Fark user image image 548x455]


It's not just that it's exhausting living it, it's exhausting living in a nation that it won't even admit that it happened. Practically nobody knew or cared about Tulsa until the Watchmen series brought it to their attention.

We have fantastic things in our history as a nation, the problem is until we learn to accept that we have done terrible things as a nation and learn to move past them together we will never improve. Conflicts like our civil war are supposed to be cathartic in one way or another giving us a chance to choose the path we want to go down. We squandered that chance
 
2020-09-22 10:54:34 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Overall I thought it was good, but a) people who never read the original GN must have been very confused, and b) they got Dr Manhattan completely wrong.

\they also seemed to have gotten Ozymandius wrong, but I put that down to him going mad while stranded.
\\\and I don't buy Laurie being so easily trapped. She's the smartest one in the room until the plot requires her to be an idiot.
\\\and what happened to Night Owl?


I don't feel like they got dr. Manhattan wrong, my take on it was that after the events in New York and Antarctica he took his time on Mars (well, Jupiter) and decided to learn how to be human again because everyone who has observed this about him agree, Jon isn't human anymore and can't think like a human does.

I like what they did with Ozymandias, the brilliance is still there. His time in exile has definitely driven him a little mad.
 
2020-09-22 11:02:38 AM  

peterthx: phlegmjay: For them he will never be redeemed for his work on Lost

Lost isn't fair either, so much brilliant on that show. People forget the first 3 seasons were absolutely riveting television. Then ABC wanted more-more-more and burned everything out.


Lost was only good for a few seasons because the audiences couldn't tell right away that JJ and Company were just making it up as they went along. Once it became apparent then many fans of the show primarily hate watched it or watched it do to a sunk cost fallacy.

Don't get me wrong, there were some very interesting ideas along the way for the show. The problem is when you make it up as you go eventually your idea becomes so convoluted it doesn't make sense by the end
 
Displayed 44 of 44 comments

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking




On Twitter



  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.