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2020-09-20 10:25:43 PM  
A lawsuit seeking to prevent votes from being counted sounds like it really ought to fall under SLAPP, in every jurisdiction that recognizes SLAPP.
 
2020-09-20 10:29:16 PM  
They're Mitch's (Moscow's) judges, but whatever.
 
2020-09-20 10:40:42 PM  

Sliding Carp: A lawsuit seeking to prevent votes from being counted sounds like it really ought to fall under SLAPP, in every jurisdiction that recognizes SLAPP.


I don't know what SLAPP is.

But I'm all in favor of slapping people who refuse to count all the votes.
 
2020-09-20 10:40:57 PM  
That would require a "plan" on his part.  Also "intelligence".  Trump can't even govern.  I don't see why anyone would think he's capable of a 'conspiracy'.

Behind the News interviewed this guy: https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2020/05​/​19/the-trouble-with-comparisons/
about Trump being a Fascist.  I'm still taking everything very seriously but I did like the point made:  Trump had a great opportunity when the Coronavirus first hit to fully take control of America.  Instead he said "I take no responsibility."    In other words how can you be a Fascist Leader when you are incapable of even being a leader.
 
2020-09-20 11:00:47 PM  

TomDooley: That would require a "plan" on his part.  Also "intelligence".  Trump can't even govern.  I don't see why anyone would think he's capable of a 'conspiracy'.

Behind the News interviewed this guy: https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2020/05/​19/the-trouble-with-comparisons/
about Trump being a Fascist.  I'm still taking everything very seriously but I did like the point made:  Trump had a great opportunity when the Coronavirus first hit to fully take control of America.  Instead he said "I take no responsibility."    In other words how can you be a Fascist Leader when you are incapable of even being a leader.


By following the Soviet model. The PARTY is what matters. Trump succeeds because the GOP lost their morals decades ago in a quest for Nixon's revenge, America be damned.
 
2020-09-20 11:07:35 PM  
Order USPS to dismantle key infrastructure to delay mail delivery
File suit to prevent counting ballots that arrive "late" due to said delivery
Profit
 
2020-09-20 11:16:13 PM  

Gubbo: Sliding Carp: A lawsuit seeking to prevent votes from being counted sounds like it really ought to fall under SLAPP, in every jurisdiction that recognizes SLAPP.

I don't know what SLAPP is.

But I'm all in favor of slapping people who refuse to count all the votes.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strateg​i​c_lawsuit_against_public_participation​
 
2020-09-21 2:09:23 AM  
"Trump needs to be overwhelmingly defeated"

Amen!
 
2020-09-21 6:27:27 AM  
With the huge lines we're seeing for advance voting in some states... it may not come down to mail ballots anyway.
 
2020-09-21 6:50:52 AM  
He's not even trying to hide it anymore is he?
 
2020-09-21 6:52:13 AM  
Well he's saying it on the record now, so at least when his attempts to interfere with the election are ultimately judged to be criminal, we can add premeditation to it.
 
2020-09-21 6:53:53 AM  
I will crawl through a mile of broken glass to vote in person. I've never been as disgusted with another individual in my life as I am with him.
At one point in my life I was an independent, and I'll never vote R again for the rest of my life.
 
2020-09-21 6:56:09 AM  
I wish election fraud was illegal.
 
2020-09-21 7:01:06 AM  
Jeez, Trump's finally trying to fix something and you people still aren't happy.
 
2020-09-21 7:05:58 AM  
This will end in fire.....
 
2020-09-21 7:07:19 AM  

chewd: I wish election fraud was illegal.


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2020-09-21 7:08:16 AM  
And they will.
 
2020-09-21 7:09:18 AM  
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2020-09-21 7:15:51 AM  
I'm starting to second guess my mail-in ballot, maybe standing in line is worth it.
 
2020-09-21 7:21:49 AM  

THX 1138: Well he's saying it on the record now, so at least when his attempts to interfere with the election are ultimately judged to be criminal, we can add premeditation to it.


If we get a series of judges that aren't Trump humpers. Which seems unlikely.
 
2020-09-21 7:23:51 AM  

BafflerMeal: And they will.


I'm sure "someone" will stop them.
 
2020-09-21 7:25:19 AM  

GardenWeasel: TomDooley: That would require a "plan" on his part.  Also "intelligence".  Trump can't even govern.  I don't see why anyone would think he's capable of a 'conspiracy'.

Behind the News interviewed this guy: https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2020/05/​19/the-trouble-with-comparisons/
about Trump being a Fascist.  I'm still taking everything very seriously but I did like the point made:  Trump had a great opportunity when the Coronavirus first hit to fully take control of America.  Instead he said "I take no responsibility."    In other words how can you be a Fascist Leader when you are incapable of even being a leader.

By following the Soviet model. The PARTY is what matters. Trump succeeds because the GOP lost their morals decades ago in a quest for Nixon's revenge, America be damned.


Yep. Trump would be nothing without the Republican Senate and, more recently, Barr's DOJ. Which is why every single Republican politician needs to be ejected from our government, and at least a good number of them need to spend the rest of their lives in prison. And while I oppose the death penalty, I wouldn't shed many tears if Barr, Trump, Miller and McConnell got executed; the damage they've done is unimaginable and horrific.
 
2020-09-21 7:28:53 AM  
Well, he can't find the campus of the electoral college of he'd go there.  Turn on the charm, make some deals.  Let the TV demographics have their vote.
 
2020-09-21 7:29:55 AM  

natural316: He's not even trying to hide it anymore is he?


President Trump never tried
 
2020-09-21 7:32:47 AM  

brainlordmesomorph: I'm starting to second guess my mail-in ballot, maybe standing in line is worth it.


No need. I don't know what state you're in, but I know in AZ and many states you can just drop your mail ballot at a voting location, which you can look up online. And every state with early voting lets you drop off early.

I've been voting by mail in AZ for over a decade. I plan on dropping mine off the day I get it. It's worth the 10 mins of my time, and I can track if it's been counted via a state website.
 
2020-09-21 7:34:17 AM  
So States could just underfund the mail in vote process, start counting in areas favorable to their candidate, run out of time for the entire process, fix election

Of course, Georgia electing Brian Kemp governor was just a test run on stealing an election.
 
2020-09-21 7:35:54 AM  

LordJiro: Yep. Trump would be nothing without the Republican Senate and, more recently, Barr's DOJ. Which is why every single Republican politician needs to be ejected from our government, and at least a good number of them need to spend the rest of their lives in prison. And while I oppose the death penalty, I wouldn't shed many tears if Barr, Trump, Miller and McConnell got executed; the damage they've done is unimaginable and horrific.


As someone who lived through Iran/Contra and all concurrent and subsequent malfeasance, I will be utterly f*cking ASTONISHED if these men face any consequences whatsoever for their actions.  A sweet gig at some think tank is the worse they'll face.  And after a couple of months, if we're lucky, everyone will have "forgotten" about it, and we'll be told to "get over it".

You're also assuming that Trump won't be "re-elected" in the first place, which is not entirely out of the question, because this country is that awful.
 
2020-09-21 7:36:48 AM  
Back in the heady days of our nascent republic the President was inaugurated in March. Why?
Because it took so long to tally the votes.
 
2020-09-21 7:39:22 AM  
Now is the time,
The time is now.
 
2020-09-21 7:39:44 AM  

OldRod: With the huge lines we're seeing for advance voting in some states... it may not come down to mail ballots anyway.


Right, but if Trump writes an executive order saying the election is invalid and he remains president and there is a 5-4 Supreme Court ruling that this is consistent with the Constitution because Reasons then I guess we're sort of boned.

Which is an absolutely ridiculous assertion, but it certainly something Trump strongly believes he can do based on his suggestion this weekend he will ban Biden from becoming president via executive order.
 
2020-09-21 7:43:34 AM  

born_yesterday: BafflerMeal: And they will.

I'm sure "someone" will stop them.


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I learned about this in freshman year of college ('99) and decided I'd never be that person that just walks by. Weirdly, when I tell people about the few times I've had the opportunity to stand by my conviction (woke up and took a drunk, passed out in the snow, home; assisted an old lady working the register at a convience store during a robbery at 2am) I get my friends/family saying that "It's admirable you did that but you shouldn't endanger yourself like that!"

I know it's at least partly because I'm a 5'3" woman, but it would bother me far more if I just did nothing. I can deal with a few physical injuries (which I have yet to suffer in my handful of citizen helper escapades).
 
2020-09-21 7:44:10 AM  

brainlordmesomorph: I'm starting to second guess my mail-in ballot, maybe standing in line is worth it.


At this point I'm sincerely concerned that my plan to vote early won't work out well either. What if they manage to stop the count of early votes because those are technically early absentee votes? What if they manage to invalidate votes that get counted early? What if they manage to invalidate votes that get counted late?

I'm going to be in line when the polls open on October 15 here and see how it goes. If I'm prevented from voting in a detectable manner at least I can try again in November. Of course if they shiatcan my ballot after I leave I may not know in time to do anything about it.
 
2020-09-21 7:44:21 AM  

born_yesterday: LordJiro: Yep. Trump would be nothing without the Republican Senate and, more recently, Barr's DOJ. Which is why every single Republican politician needs to be ejected from our government, and at least a good number of them need to spend the rest of their lives in prison. And while I oppose the death penalty, I wouldn't shed many tears if Barr, Trump, Miller and McConnell got executed; the damage they've done is unimaginable and horrific.

As someone who lived through Iran/Contra and all concurrent and subsequent malfeasance, I will be utterly f*cking ASTONISHED if these men face any consequences whatsoever for their actions.  A sweet gig at some think tank is the worse they'll face.  And after a couple of months, if we're lucky, everyone will have "forgotten" about it, and we'll be told to "get over it".

You're also assuming that Trump won't be "re-elected" in the first place, which is not entirely out of the question, because this country is that awful.


Iran/Contra is abstract compared to all the Trump fraud.
 
2020-09-21 7:44:55 AM  

brainlordmesomorph: I'm starting to second guess my mail-in ballot, maybe standing in line is worth it.


In many states, you have drop boxes locally for your ballot. I'm planning to just drop mine off at the city clerk's office.
 
2020-09-21 7:45:46 AM  
I am so sick of the Fascist Idealisms being embraced by the GOP, and their goddamn claims of it being Freedom.

I used to think of it as being more of a fad, but it's just a false sense of security for the willfully ignorant to follow as they just can't, or won't try to understand the US Constitution, much less the world history that brought it forth through philosophy and observation. History does repeat itself, in one way or form, that continues the rise to power from force, whether by word or action.

It truly sickens me to see and hear people choose a way of life that is contrary to any form of enlightenment or for the betterment of society. Choosing hardship for one's self proves a lack of educational awareness, choosing hardships for others has always lead to the fall of that society. And, with cuts to to education and social programs, the GOP is leading the fall from their false narratives, propaganda, and outright lies in hopes of staying in power.
 
2020-09-21 7:51:06 AM  

Koodz: brainlordmesomorph: I'm starting to second guess my mail-in ballot, maybe standing in line is worth it.

At this point I'm sincerely concerned that my plan to vote early won't work out well either. What if they manage to stop the count of early votes because those are technically early absentee votes? What if they manage to invalidate votes that get counted early? What if they manage to invalidate votes that get counted late?

I'm going to be in line when the polls open on October 15 here and see how it goes. If I'm prevented from voting in a detectable manner at least I can try again in November. Of course if they shiatcan my ballot after I leave I may not know in time to do anything about it.


Check how your state handles early voting. Many states let you see that your vote has been counted and whom your votes were recorded for.
 
2020-09-21 7:51:45 AM  

killershark: brainlordmesomorph: I'm starting to second guess my mail-in ballot, maybe standing in line is worth it.

In many states, you have drop boxes locally for your ballot. I'm planning to just drop mine off at the city clerk's office.


That's my plan and recommendation.  Our county box is under constant surveillance, emptied daily, and you can track whether your ballot was accepted.
 
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2020-09-21 7:54:01 AM  

TomDooley: That would require a "plan" on his part.  Also "intelligence".  Trump can't even govern.  I don't see why anyone would think he's capable of a 'conspiracy'.

Behind the News interviewed this guy: https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2020/05/​19/the-trouble-with-comparisons/
about Trump being a Fascist.  I'm still taking everything very seriously but I did like the point made:  Trump had a great opportunity when the Coronavirus first hit to fully take control of America.  Instead he said "I take no responsibility."    In other words how can you be a Fascist Leader when you are incapable of even being a leader.


He has cronies like Barr and Miller who come up with the plans. Trump just signs off on them and repeats their talking points.
 
2020-09-21 7:57:14 AM  

minorshan: Koodz: brainlordmesomorph: I'm starting to second guess my mail-in ballot, maybe standing in line is worth it.

At this point I'm sincerely concerned that my plan to vote early won't work out well either. What if they manage to stop the count of early votes because those are technically early absentee votes? What if they manage to invalidate votes that get counted early? What if they manage to invalidate votes that get counted late?

I'm going to be in line when the polls open on October 15 here and see how it goes. If I'm prevented from voting in a detectable manner at least I can try again in November. Of course if they shiatcan my ballot after I leave I may not know in time to do anything about it.

Check how your state handles early voting. Many states let you see that your vote has been counted and whom your votes were recorded for.


In North Carolina I can see if I voted, and the method (absentee, in-person, etc), and which party's primary I voted in, but I don't see a way to see who I voted for or whether that vote was counted.

It's also a public site and I could look up literally anyone in the state and see the same information about him or her, so maybe that's a good thing.
 
2020-09-21 8:00:41 AM  

natural316: He's not even trying to hide it anymore is he?


It's a combination of audacity and weapons-grade stupidity.

If he would shut up and stop tweeting, he'd be 30 points up right now. But there's so much on the record, from "Fire and Fury" to "Rage," trump* and his acolytes have filled in all the gaps to confirm, in almost every case, our worst fears.

After the election, if he loses and is also declared the loser (as opposed to 2016), there might be a private moment when he peruses his Twitter feed, or googled himself and sees all the stupid, easily avoidable ways he sabotaged himself.

I hope however he dies, he dies embarrassed and ashamed. He knew this job was beyond his comprehension, but his pride and bigotry got in the way.

Plus he's among the biggest pieces of shiat the worst American generation ever farted out into the world.
 
2020-09-21 8:07:02 AM  

GardenWeasel: TomDooley: That would require a "plan" on his part.  Also "intelligence".  Trump can't even govern.  I don't see why anyone would think he's capable of a 'conspiracy'.

Behind the News interviewed this guy: https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2020/05/​19/the-trouble-with-comparisons/
about Trump being a Fascist.  I'm still taking everything very seriously but I did like the point made:  Trump had a great opportunity when the Coronavirus first hit to fully take control of America.  Instead he said "I take no responsibility."    In other words how can you be a Fascist Leader when you are incapable of even being a leader.

By following the Soviet model. The PARTY is what matters. Trump succeeds because the GOP lost their morals decades ago in a quest for Nixon's revenge, America be damned.


That is consistent with the Führerprinzip campaign platform.
 
2020-09-21 8:07:22 AM  
So he's going to what? Seek an injunction against counting ballots?
 
2020-09-21 8:10:34 AM  

Magruda: chewd: I wish election fraud was illegal.

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Oddly, exceedingly appropriate. Donnie IS trying to make it illegal, hence he really thinks voting will change something.

/I think that was the point you were trying to get across, right?
 
2020-09-21 8:12:59 AM  

cendojr: killershark: brainlordmesomorph: I'm starting to second guess my mail-in ballot, maybe standing in line is worth it.

In many states, you have drop boxes locally for your ballot. I'm planning to just drop mine off at the city clerk's office.

That's my plan and recommendation.  Our county box is under constant surveillance, emptied daily, and you can track whether your ballot was accepted.


Its going to come down to each state's laws, because why wouldn't we have the same rules for all the states? Notably the states that allow ballots to count if they were postmarked before Election Day are going to be the issue. I live in VA and mail in ballots only count if the reach the registrar before the close of the polls, and they are counted with the rest of the ballots. Which is why I plan on dropping mine off early at the election office.
 
2020-09-21 8:14:02 AM  
The dumbest part about this is he has already tried this in court and lost. The judges said they have to be counted if post marked by Election Day. He has zero chance of them tossing ballots already at the election office.
 
2020-09-21 8:17:41 AM  

not enough beer: The dumbest part about this is he has already tried this in court and lost. The judges said they have to be counted if post marked by Election Day. He has zero chance of them tossing ballots already at the election office.


But now they can try again and appeal to SCOTUS for a rubber stamp.
 
2020-09-21 8:20:21 AM  

qorkfiend: So he's going to what? Seek an injunction against counting ballots?


No, just send his Proud Boy militias into the offices where the votes are being tallied and shut down the counting by force of arms. They're already saying that they're going to do this on the relevant forums. Some of those people are talking about invading the County Clerk's offices directly to prevent the certification from happening unless the clerk can certify that Fat Donny is guaranteed to win.

Remember the Brooks Brothers Riot? Think about that with hundreds of yokels carrying AR-15s.
 
2020-09-21 8:20:31 AM  
Once the 1st amendment fails, it's time to move on to the next.
 
2020-09-21 8:23:41 AM  

Magruda: chewd: I wish election fraud was illegal.

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Why bother making it illegal, when you can just make the votes not count..?  Give people the "illusion" of choice, between people that were picked to both uphold the wishes of the overlords, and then use built in mechanisms to twist it to the preference of the senate/SC majority so thing are easier to push through the system.

Also, the electoral college is a fossil that needs to be retired.  Right along with gerrymandering.
 
2020-09-21 8:25:14 AM  

Min5trel: Magruda: chewd: I wish election fraud was illegal.

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Oddly, exceedingly appropriate. Donnie IS trying to make it illegal, hence he really thinks voting will change something.

/I think that was the point you were trying to get across, right?


If you get an anti-Trump vibe then we're probably on the same page.
 
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