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2020-09-20 10:39:40 PM  
......go gettem tiger....yawnnnn..
 
2020-09-21 6:21:25 AM  
"Let me be clear: If Leader McConnell and Senate Republicans move forward with this, then nothing is off the table for next year," Schumer said. "Nothing is off the table."

"Nothing" as in "pistols at dawn" or "nothing" as in strongly worded letters and tweets if the Democrats don't take the Senate?
 
2020-09-21 7:56:14 AM  
The only outcome that would work for the Democrats is for Chuck Schumer wear the Infinity Glove with all six stones onto the Senate Floor and to keep punching McConnell in the nuts with it.
 
2020-09-21 8:26:20 AM  
A little late to the scorched earth party aren't you Chuck?
 
2020-09-21 8:31:53 AM  

Unobtanium: "Let me be clear: If Leader McConnell and Senate Republicans move forward with this, then nothing is off the table for next year," Schumer said. "Nothing is off the table."

"Nothing" as in "pistols at dawn" or "nothing" as in strongly worded letters and tweets if the Democrats don't take the Senate?


I'm assuming he means he will put republicans in timeout for as long as democrats control the chamber and never seek a compromise on anything.

Now if he'll stick to that in January or not is anyone's guess.
 
2020-09-21 8:32:50 AM  
Legally they can push through a nomination, and they have the will and numbers to do so

there is nothing realistic anyone can do
 
2020-09-21 8:35:36 AM  
Hahaha ha

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2020-09-21 8:36:25 AM  
Ha, I'll believe that when they do it.
 
2020-09-21 8:36:35 AM  
Wow democrats are probably going to break out the calligraphy for this strongly worded letter and let the Republicans have both barrels of ink. I'm sure the Republicans are quaking in their boots at the though of what democrats might do, we've seen the sarcastic clap AND the ripped speech already, I'm sure what's coming will be even more mindblowingly terrifying.
 
2020-09-21 8:37:05 AM  
Repeal the laws on dueling?  Pistols or Sabers...

Roll into that like the Shredder, ready to take a Turtle 1v1

(Yes canonically Shredder always loses, but that's 1v4.  I think he could manage one alone.)
 
2020-09-21 8:37:16 AM  
Words and shame have no affect on them.  The only thing that works is pain.
 
2020-09-21 8:37:27 AM  
Chuck Schumer is the biggest weenie around. I don't believe him.
 
2020-09-21 8:38:28 AM  

makerofbadjokes: Repeal the laws on dueling?  Pistols or Sabers...

Roll into that like the Shredder, ready to take a Turtle 1v1

(Yes canonically Shredder always loses, but that's 1v4.  I think he could manage one alone.)


Republicans are cowards. They would never agree to a duel challenge because they have no honor to defend.
 
2020-09-21 8:39:40 AM  
"Democrats aren't ruling out X" doesn't actually mean anything has been done or will be done. It's just words.

Republicans have the ability to conjure stuff out of thin air with words (e.g. the "Biden Rule"; everything Trump has tricked his followers into believing; the past 50 years of conservative propaganda and lies). Democrats do not have this ability. They need to stop acting like they do, and start acting.
 
d23 [OhFark]
2020-09-21 8:41:37 AM  

HansoSparxx: Words and shame have no affect on them.  The only thing that works is pain.


No.. the only thing that works is a call from their donors threatening to take away the revolving door job.
 
2020-09-21 8:43:09 AM  
Chuck, Chuck bo-buck, banana-fana fo fu-<record-scratch.wav>
 
2020-09-21 8:45:16 AM  
Sue McConnell for violating the 14th amendment.
 
2020-09-21 8:45:23 AM  
Let them have the hearings before the election.  I can't wait to hear about her stance on abortion and watch her duck and weave and try to avoid stating her position.

Then Susan Collins can be concerned.
 
2020-09-21 8:45:44 AM  
Republicans better watch out once we have Charles in charge!
 
2020-09-21 8:45:46 AM  
I vote for nothing off the table meaning Mitch's wife is arrested regarding corruption on the award of contracts and grants for DOT over her tenure and we go on from there...
 
2020-09-21 8:45:51 AM  
Schumer should keep his mouth shut.  There is nothing he can really do to stop the Republicans if they want to confirm a new Supreme Court justice.  Talk of packing the court and other tactics will just arouse Trump's base and will work against the Democrats. Just talk about fairness and also remind the voters that this is the result of the last election and if they want to prevent it in the future then they must vote for Biden and Democratic candidates. Leave it at that.
 
2020-09-21 8:45:53 AM  

OtherLittleGuy: The only outcome that would work for the Democrats is for Chuck Schumer wear the Infinity Glove with all six stones onto the Senate Floor and to keep punching McConnell in the nuts with it.


The cut of your jib - I like it.
 
2020-09-21 8:46:18 AM  
If D can't take both houses, Americans will get what they voted for and strongly worded letters will be the only power Chuck Schumer has to wield.
 
2020-09-21 8:46:55 AM  
One of the more interesting suggestions is for them to immediately impeach Trump again.  That would force the Senate to hold another trial. That could delay the nomination by a week or so.
 
2020-09-21 8:47:28 AM  
so the only logical answer is to pack the court, but they won't say they'll do that if they win, because then they won't, but they will if they don't, except they won't really, and

you know what we're all farked
 
2020-09-21 8:49:49 AM  

Lochsteppe: "Democrats aren't ruling out X" doesn't actually mean anything has been done or will be done. It's just words.

Republicans have the ability to conjure stuff out of thin air with words (e.g. the "Biden Rule"; everything Trump has tricked his followers into believing; the past 50 years of conservative propaganda and lies). Democrats do not have this ability. They need to stop acting like they do, and start acting.


Democrats don't have the ability because democrat voters aren't stupid enough to believe the kind of bullsh*t republican voters will.  Republican voters take everything on face value and are the epitome of confirmation bias, so they're the easiest marks.  That's why the shysters are mostly Republican.
 
2020-09-21 8:49:59 AM  
It's about time.

But I'll believe it when I see it.
 
2020-09-21 8:51:10 AM  
So helpful.


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2020-09-21 8:52:09 AM  
1) Republicans install a new Supreme Court Justice.
2) Trump loses.
3) Republican Senators say they were merely in the thrall of Trump and are dedicated to comity and a new age of bipartisanship publicly; to do otherwise would create a total war scenario that democracy would not last long under.
4) Democrats agree to shelve getting rid of the filibuster, adding Puerto Rico and DC as states, and in fact restore the filibuster for judicial nominees to make for a healthier democracy.
5) Turns out everything that Democrats want to do is too partisan and is blocked in lockstep by the GOP Senate.
6) Republicans win in 2022 and 2024.
 
2020-09-21 8:52:50 AM  
"centrist" Democrats better start figuring out which they dislike more, fixing the economic issues that working people in this country face, or being lined up against a wall and executed by a fanatical rightwing government. Choose wisely but don't take too long cause it's kinda down to wire at this point.
 
2020-09-21 8:52:58 AM  
     
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2020-09-21 8:54:13 AM  

The Envoy: Democrats don't have the ability because democrat voters aren't stupid enough to believe the kind of bullsh*t republican voters will. Republican voters take everything on face value and are the epitome of confirmation bias, so they're the easiest marks. That's why the shysters are mostly Republican.


They have one wing of the party that have their brains locked in on abortion and they have another wing of the part that are racist and selfish.  They don't feel ANY pressure from voters on any issue.  The pressure they get is from donors and donors are stay out of the culture wars B.S. and just benefit from Trump allowing corporations to go feral with no oversight at all.
 
2020-09-21 8:54:14 AM  
... said no LIberal ever.
 
2020-09-21 8:54:16 AM  

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2020-09-21 8:55:41 AM  

Unobtanium: "Nothing" as in "pistols at dawn" or "nothing" as in strongly worded letters and tweets if the Democrats don't take the Senate?


Strongly-worded letters when the Democrats do take the Senate.
 
2020-09-21 8:57:16 AM  
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2020-09-21 8:57:37 AM  
Packed with neo-liberal corporatist judges? Better than neo-fascist/theocratic judges for sure.

/ yeah, you're right, I am concerned
 
2020-09-21 8:57:46 AM  

Lochsteppe: They need to stop acting like they do, and start acting.


They're the minority party, so there is nothing Senate Dems can do to stop Trump from ramming through a SCOTUS pick before Jan. I'd also hope that Chuck is smart enough not to announce his plans until after he has the gavel, as you could except a Republican counter response beforehand (picture McConnell expanding the court before Jan to beat them to the punch). And on top of that right now everyone left of crazy is about as inspired to vote against Trump and Co. as you're going to get. You don't want to inspire the potential Trump voter who is sitting this one out, after all Trump is giving the conservative "SCOTUS voter" everything they want before the election.
 
2020-09-21 9:00:21 AM  
I haven't had much faith in Chuck in awhile. If the Dems take back the Senate, I hope they put someone like Tammy Duckworth or Elizabeth Warren in charge. Things need to change.
 
2020-09-21 9:03:20 AM  

J.R. 'Bob' Chinaski: Lochsteppe: They need to stop acting like they do, and start acting.

They're the minority party, so there is nothing Senate Dems can do to stop Trump from ramming through a SCOTUS pick before Jan. I'd also hope that Chuck is smart enough not to announce his plans until after he has the gavel, as you could except a Republican counter response beforehand (picture McConnell expanding the court before Jan to beat them to the punch). And on top of that right now everyone left of crazy is about as inspired to vote against Trump and Co. as you're going to get. You don't want to inspire the potential Trump voter who is sitting this one out, after all Trump is giving the conservative "SCOTUS voter" everything they want before the election.


He can't expand the court without the House.
 
2020-09-21 9:03:44 AM  

HypnozombieX: "centrist" Democrats better start figuring out which they dislike more, fixing the economic issues that working people in this country face, or being lined up against a wall and executed by a fanatical rightwing government. Choose wisely but don't take too long cause it's kinda down to wire at this point.


"Centrist" Democrats aren't the ones loudly proclaiming their intention to skip this election
 
2020-09-21 9:04:18 AM  

slobberbone: Unobtanium: "Nothing" as in "pistols at dawn" or "nothing" as in strongly worded letters and tweets if the Democrats don't take the Senate?

Strongly-worded letters when the Democrats do take the Senate.


Whoa, whoa, whoa; let's not be hasty.  Don't you think it's time for the country to put this behind us and come together to heal as a nation?

BRB, got an election to help fix.
 
2020-09-21 9:05:05 AM  

Ginnungagap42: OtherLittleGuy: The only outcome that would work for the Democrats is for Chuck Schumer wear the Infinity Glove with all six stones onto the Senate Floor and to keep punching McConnell in the nuts with it.

The cut of your jib - I like it.


I should ask my tv provider to get CSPAN
 
2020-09-21 9:14:13 AM  

kbronsito: I vote for nothing off the table meaning Mitch's wife is arrested regarding corruption on the award of contracts and grants for DOT over her tenure and we go on from there...


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2020-09-21 9:17:11 AM  
Can Democrats just refuse to show up? Deny them a quorum? I know it's not technically 'legal', but Republicans have tried it before, I believe. At this point, anything to thwart McConnell is fair game in my book.
 
2020-09-21 9:21:38 AM  
Gotta win the election first. And even then, I doubt the Supreme Court will be expanded under Biden.
 
2020-09-21 9:21:47 AM  

RobotSpider: Can Democrats just refuse to show up? Deny them a quorum? I know it's not technically 'legal', but Republicans have tried it before, I believe. At this point, anything to thwart McConnell is fair game in my book.


They need 51 Senators present for a quorum. We have 2 Senators saying that they do not supporting seating a new justice before the election (both unclear if they would support it during the lame duck.)

So you would need to find one more Republican no vote AND have to assume that all three would support the quorum move and not some BS "I do not support the nominee and will appear in person to vote against them" position. About equally as likely as a 4th no vote to confirm.
 
2020-09-21 9:22:56 AM  

qorkfiend: HypnozombieX: "centrist" Democrats better start figuring out which they dislike more, fixing the economic issues that working people in this country face, or being lined up against a wall and executed by a fanatical rightwing government. Choose wisely but don't take too long cause it's kinda down to wire at this point.

"Centrist" Democrats aren't the ones loudly proclaiming their intention to skip this election


right they're just the ones who spent the last 40 years going along with republicans ACTUALLY CREATING THE CURRENT SITUATION. you're basically saying people should vote for someone who will intentionally screw them over just because they won't be openly racist, sexist, ect while doing it. shiat like this is why people don't take you seriously.
 
2020-09-21 9:26:59 AM  

Unobtanium: "Let me be clear: If Leader McConnell and Senate Republicans move forward with this, then nothing is off the table for next year," Schumer said. "Nothing is off the table."

"Nothing" as in "pistols at dawn" or "nothing" as in strongly worded letters and tweets if the Democrats don't take the Senate?


I'd pay good money for option #1.
 
2020-09-21 9:27:43 AM  

makerofbadjokes: Repeal the laws on dueling? Pistols or Sabers...


It might make an interesting court case if a majority of the Senate voted to amend the Senate rules to allow settling disputes by a duel; does federal (or DC) law against murder override the Senate's prerogative to set its own rules?

So, just how many determined enemies of Senator Ted Cruz can Senator Chuck Schumer line up?
 
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