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(Columbia Daily Tribune)   Vitrine: A display case, as in 'let's put a thick acrylic vitrine around Thomas Jefferson's grave stone at the University of Missouri so no one will notice we are worried about someone who might remember he owned slaves or raped Sally Hemings"   (columbiatribune.com) divider line
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2020-09-20 10:21:29 PM  
Lighten up, people. It's not like he was one of the Brittle Brothers.
 
2020-09-20 10:22:33 PM  
Or, and hear me out for a second, stone in temperate, wet regions tends to weather heavily over short amounts of time.
 
2020-09-20 10:23:03 PM  
This is the LockPickingLawyer, and today what I have for you is...
 
2020-09-20 10:25:03 PM  

Todd300: This is the LockPickingLawyer, and today what I have for you is...


Love those videos!
 
2020-09-20 10:28:53 PM  
Oh you spent $20,000 to protect it because of recent vandalism nearby and wanted to keep displaying it?

Challenge accepted
 
2020-09-20 10:30:27 PM  
Fire beats plastic.
 
2020-09-20 10:32:14 PM  
Who cares about the grave stone.  Steal the vitrine and give it to a museum.
 
2020-09-20 10:32:48 PM  
I think most protesters would understand a gravestone is a little different than a random statue.  Jefferson has some huge baggage but everyone is basically allowed a grave and a grave marker, though admittingly one of the sins of the south is that standard honor was often stolen from people of color.  It's different than a large statue in a public square.
 
2020-09-20 10:35:35 PM  

winedrinkingman: but everyone is basically allowed a grave and a grave marker


How about a certain Bin Laden?
 
2020-09-20 10:35:44 PM  
I mean, I'd have said that having a mixed historical legacy doesn't really qualify you for hate or disqualify you from also being a great or important person in the same way that having an entirely negative/harmful impact on history does...

... but this is sort of the city setting up an official "challenge issued" situation for vandals, so that things going to be defiled in some hilariously dramatic way by the end of the month.  No one was seriously considering going after Thomas Jefferson of all people, but they sure as fark are now.
 
2020-09-20 10:36:14 PM  
Although Sally Hemings was a slave, there is every reason to believe that she had a consensual relationship with Thomas Jefferson. I know that's hard to believe in the day when people are assumed to be pawns without wills or desires.
 
2020-09-20 10:36:54 PM  
There's not much chance we'll forget his sins, the way the virtue signalers keep screaming them from the rooftops.

Now here's a question: when you say he "raped Sally Hemings", which is true, what kind of scenario are you picturing in your prurient little minds, bearing in mind they had 17 children over a 40 year relationship?
 
2020-09-20 10:38:01 PM  

WastrelWay: Although Sally Hemings was a slave, there is every reason to believe that she had a consensual relationship with Thomas Jefferson. I know that's hard to believe in the day when people are assumed to be pawns without wills or desires.


"But what if the slave consents?" is an amazingly hot take.

How do you feel about the age of consent?
 
2020-09-20 10:38:15 PM  

WastrelWay: Although Sally Hemings was a slave, there is every reason to believe that she had a consensual relationship with Thomas Jefferson. I know that's hard to believe in the day when people are assumed to be pawns without wills or desires.


Did you get that from the NAMBLA brochure?
 
2020-09-20 10:40:42 PM  

Claude Ballse: Todd300: This is the LockPickingLawyer, and today what I have for you is...

Love those videos!


Be sure to watch him breaking into his wife's beaver and a solemn contemplation on why his 'side beaver,' which is younger, happens to have a smooth opening
 
2020-09-20 10:42:30 PM  

WastrelWay: Although Sally Hemings was a slave, there is every reason to believe that she had a consensual relationship with Thomas Jefferson. I know that's hard to believe in the day when people are assumed to be pawns without wills or desires.


Jesus farking Christ.  Are you literally at a klan rally right now typing that comment while your grand wizard is looking over your shoulder to try to impress him with how well you own the libs?

Because I've know guys who with 100% certain were literal klansmen who never expressed an opinion quite that vile, racist, or just generally morally repugnant in public, even when surrounded only by other white boys.

// Admittedly this would have been several decades before Trump was president and a lot of the veneer of civility got stripped away from your end of politics.
 
2020-09-20 10:42:48 PM  

pup.socket: winedrinkingman: but everyone is basically allowed a grave and a grave marker

How about a certain Bin Laden?


He should have been captured and put to work cleaning Jeb's condo.

/Jeb is a MESS
 
2020-09-20 10:43:46 PM  
It's probably the last thing left on Earth that hasn't been turned into a "River Table" by dumping resin all over it and buffing the shiat out of it.
 
2020-09-20 10:43:52 PM  

NM Volunteer: WastrelWay: Although Sally Hemings was a slave, there is every reason to believe that she had a consensual relationship with Thomas Jefferson. I know that's hard to believe in the day when people are assumed to be pawns without wills or desires.

Did you get that from the NAMBLA brochure?


That's a weird way to spell Russian
 
2020-09-20 10:44:13 PM  
VITrine?

.. Well that explains some funny looks.
//and the angry policeman.
 
2020-09-20 10:44:16 PM  
...must be the aCRYLLIC letters.
 
2020-09-20 10:44:30 PM  

NM Volunteer: WastrelWay: Although Sally Hemings was a slave, there is every reason to believe that she had a consensual relationship with Thomas Jefferson. I know that's hard to believe in the day when people are assumed to be pawns without wills or desires.

Did you get that from the NAMBLA brochure?


It was rape, because slaves could not consent.

But there's no reason at all to imagine Hemings was dragged screaming down the hall every night and beaten into submission before a brutal penetration. They were together 40 years. Hemings was Martha Jefferson's half-sister by a slave woman on the fathers plantation, and she came with Martha when she was married to Jefferson.

Their relationship, after Martha died young, was much more complex than "he raped her every night".
 
2020-09-20 10:45:14 PM  
There's one of those on Oscar Wilde's grave in Paris because women kept putting on lipstick and kissing it.
Don't those girls know who Wilde was??
 
2020-09-20 10:46:26 PM  
Vitrification. As in:

vitrify barrels of radioactive waste and bury them 1000 feet below the water table in the salt deposits of Arizona.
 
2020-09-20 10:47:34 PM  

WastrelWay: Although Sally Hemings was a slave, there is every reason to believe that she had a consensual relationship with Thomas Jefferson. I know that's hard to believe in the day when people are assumed to be pawns without wills or desires.


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2020-09-20 10:51:38 PM  

Gyrfalcon: what kind of scenario are you picturing in your prurient little minds, bearing in mind they had 17 children over a 40 year relationship?


40 years and 17 children? That's a no holes barred scenario. And no "denying them my essence".
 
2020-09-20 10:52:36 PM  

Gyrfalcon: There's not much chance we'll forget his sins, the way the virtue signalers keep screaming them from the rooftops.

Now here's a question: when you say he "raped Sally Hemings", which is true, what kind of scenario are you picturing in your prurient little minds, bearing in mind they had 17 children over a 40 year relationship?


Thomas Jefferson was six-feet-two-and-a-half-inches, 181 lbs, if that helps people visualize better,
 
2020-09-20 10:53:57 PM  

yakmans_dad: Vitrification. As in:

vitrify barrels of radioactive waste and bury them 1000 feet below the water table in the salt deposits of Arizona.


No need to bury it the heat hate will turn it into a nice obsidian.

/It's a dry hate
 
2020-09-20 10:54:30 PM  

bthom37: WastrelWay: Although Sally Hemings was a slave, there is every reason to believe that she had a consensual relationship with Thomas Jefferson. I know that's hard to believe in the day when people are assumed to be pawns without wills or desires.

"But what if the slave consents?" is an amazingly hot take.

How do you feel about the age of consent?


what was the age of consent back in a time when a 13yr old could marry?  stop looking at the past with the eyes of the present. different time
 
2020-09-20 10:54:53 PM  
Well, he is certainly not going to get covered in kisses like Oscar Wilde's grave.
 
2020-09-20 10:56:17 PM  

Benalto: There's one of those on Oscar Wilde's grave in Paris because women kept putting on lipstick and kissing it.
Don't those girls know who Wilde was??


girls dig writers.  it doesn't have to be sexual.  :>
 
2020-09-20 10:56:49 PM  

WastrelWay: Although Sally Hemings was a slave, there is every reason to believe that she had a consensual relationship with Thomas Jefferson. I know that's hard to believe in the day when people are assumed to be pawns without wills or desires.


Did he violently rape her?  Most of what we know about their "relationship" would suggest he did not.

However, how can one truly give consent when that one is literally the property of the other?
 
2020-09-20 10:57:21 PM  

rainbowbutter: Benalto: There's one of those on Oscar Wilde's grave in Paris because women kept putting on lipstick and kissing it.
Don't those girls know who Wilde was??

girls dig writers.  it doesn't have to be sexual.  :>


That action is reserved for Victor Noir's grave.
 
2020-09-20 10:58:49 PM  
Why is Jefferson buried in Missouri, of all places? That's what I want to know.
 
2020-09-20 11:01:26 PM  

Gyrfalcon: NM Volunteer: WastrelWay: Although Sally Hemings was a slave, there is every reason to believe that she had a consensual relationship with Thomas Jefferson. I know that's hard to believe in the day when people are assumed to be pawns without wills or desires.

Did you get that from the NAMBLA brochure?

It was rape, because slaves could not consent.

But there's no reason at all to imagine Hemings was dragged screaming down the hall every night and beaten into submission before a brutal penetration. They were together 40 years. Hemings was Martha Jefferson's half-sister by a slave woman on the fathers plantation, and she came with Martha when she was married to Jefferson.

Their relationship, after Martha died young, was much more complex than "he raped her every night".


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2020-09-20 11:01:46 PM  

Warrior Kermit: bthom37: WastrelWay: Although Sally Hemings was a slave, there is every reason to believe that she had a consensual relationship with Thomas Jefferson. I know that's hard to believe in the day when people are assumed to be pawns without wills or desires.

"But what if the slave consents?" is an amazingly hot take.

How do you feel about the age of consent?

what was the age of consent back in a time when a 13yr old could marry?  stop looking at the past with the eyes of the present. different time


13 year old girls have been 13 year old girls since the evolution of humans.  It is creepy no matter what the calendar says.
 
2020-09-20 11:03:34 PM  

Benalto: There's one of those on Oscar Wilde's grave in Paris because women kept putting on lipstick and kissing it.
Don't those girls know who Wilde was??


The grave was defaced years ago when someone made off with the monument's testicles. They've since been replaced. Wiki says they're now made of silver.

It only says lipstick. Not a gender.
 
2020-09-20 11:05:42 PM  

Todd300: This is the LockPickingLawyer, and today what I have for you is...


It's only fair to throw Bosnian Bill into the mix.  Both quality lockpickers.

/Still waiting for Sparrows to reintroduce LPL & BB's collaboration disc detainer pick for under $1M.
 
2020-09-20 11:06:23 PM  

Warrior Kermit: what was the age of consent back in a time when a 13yr old could marry? stop looking at the past with the eyes of the present. different time


Nope.
Nope nope nope nope nope.

The normal age of marriage for a woman has been between, like, 18 and 24 for centuries because PEOPLE UNDERSTOOD THAT KNOCKING UP A 13 YEAR OLD TENDS TO FARKING KILL THEM OR PERMANENTLY DESTROY THEIR DAMN HEALTH.

STOP PERPETUATING THIS LIE THAT PEOPLE GOT MARRIED SUB-16 NOT THAT LONG AGO. IT AIN'T TRUE. ALL RESEARCH POINTS TO THE OPPOSITE.

In fact getting married super young was only for political/arranged marriages and even then the spouses weren't even together until they were, you know. Conventional adults. 18ish.

/also, real sus that you're bringing up that point my dude
//reeeeeeaaaal farking sus
 
2020-09-20 11:07:11 PM  

Snaptastic: rainbowbutter: Benalto: There's one of those on Oscar Wilde's grave in Paris because women kept putting on lipstick and kissing it.
Don't those girls know who Wilde was??

girls dig writers.  it doesn't have to be sexual.  :>

That action is reserved for Victor Noir's grave.


I just had to look that up. WTF man?!
 
2020-09-20 11:08:30 PM  

NM Volunteer: Warrior Kermit: bthom37: WastrelWay: Although Sally Hemings was a slave, there is every reason to believe that she had a consensual relationship with Thomas Jefferson. I know that's hard to believe in the day when people are assumed to be pawns without wills or desires.

"But what if the slave consents?" is an amazingly hot take.

How do you feel about the age of consent?

what was the age of consent back in a time when a 13yr old could marry?  stop looking at the past with the eyes of the present. different time

13 year old girls have been 13 year old girls since the evolution of humans.  It is creepy no matter what the calendar says.


Hell 13 was middle aged back then.

In West Virginia they marry'em at 13 because that's the last time they'll have a full set of teeth.
 
2020-09-20 11:09:20 PM  

Trocadero: Why is Jefferson buried in Missouri, of all places? That's what I want to know.


Someone had to hide the golden tablets
 
2020-09-20 11:13:35 PM  

Kalyco Jack: Snaptastic: rainbowbutter: Benalto: There's one of those on Oscar Wilde's grave in Paris because women kept putting on lipstick and kissing it.
Don't those girls know who Wilde was??

girls dig writers.  it doesn't have to be sexual.  :>

That action is reserved for Victor Noir's grave.

I just had to look that up. WTF man?!


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2020-09-20 11:13:58 PM  

WastrelWay: Although Sally Hemings was a slave, there is every reason to believe that she had a consensual relationship with Thomas Jefferson. I know that's hard to believe in the day when people are assumed to be pawns without wills or desires.


Being a slave is the very antithesis of having the ability to extend or deny consent.
 
2020-09-20 11:14:17 PM  
I prefer Epic Rap Battles of History's view on Jefferson: Not denying his fame, but needs an asterisk next to his name..

Frederick Douglass vs Thomas Jefferson. Epic Rap Battles of History
Youtube O-ZblMfZpuw
 
2020-09-20 11:17:17 PM  
Vote biden, but demand he nuke the gravesites of every slaver.  Or that we dig up the remains of every slaver, and shoot them into the sun or a black hole.  I prefer the black hole, we need to remove the taint of slavers from our space time.  Then we need to strike every mention of the slavers from every historical source, and burn the books that mention them.  Remove the influence of slavers from history, so that hopefully future generations are not influenced by slavers.  We also need to speed up the development of nano bots that can be injected and will snip out memories like in "the enternal sunshine of a spotless mind"  Have the very memories of learning about slavers taken out.  We need to make the world pure and free of slavers.

If the Biden won't nuke slaver graves, he is a slaver sympathizer.  He is also part of the problem.  He would be a hairy legged child sniffing slaver sympathizer.  Hopefully he isn't a slaver sympathizer and just a hairy legged child sniffer.
 
2020-09-20 11:20:31 PM  

AmbassadorBooze: Vote biden,


Edited for length, sanity
 
2020-09-20 11:21:49 PM  

Todd300: AmbassadorBooze: Vote biden,

Edited for length, sanity


You are not for nuking slaver graves?  You don't think the graves of slavers are a taint on the earth?
 
2020-09-20 11:23:24 PM  

Kalyco Jack: Snaptastic: rainbowbutter: Benalto: There's one of those on Oscar Wilde's grave in Paris because women kept putting on lipstick and kissing it.
Don't those girls know who Wilde was??

girls dig writers.  it doesn't have to be sexual.  :>

That action is reserved for Victor Noir's grave.

I just had to look that up. WTF man?!


Agreed.  Speaking of graves in France isn't Morrison's blocked off or?
 
2020-09-20 11:24:08 PM  

geekbikerskum: WastrelWay: Although Sally Hemings was a slave, there is every reason to believe that she had a consensual relationship with Thomas Jefferson. I know that's hard to believe in the day when people are assumed to be pawns without wills or desires.

Being a slave is the very antithesis of having the ability to extend or deny consent.


What about being the legal property of your husband because you're a woman?

History is sad.
 
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