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2020-09-21 9:53:52 AM  
I would love love LOVE for someone who is good at animation to create animation to go along with the HHTTG radio series.

It is by far the best version of the story (yes, even better than the books) and also has some really good voice acting.
 
2020-09-21 10:03:43 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Mugato: The movie wasn't the worst thing ever made (Zooey Dachenn...whatever) is always adorable but it's too bad that it didn't do well enough for the rest of the books to be made. It should get a Netflix series. With Zooy Deachaeane....whatever and that guy who's always cool, whatever he's in.

Zooey looks more like Trillian than the woman that played her in the TV series, but they messed up her personality. She's supposed to be a genius, not someone who's impressed by a knife that also toasts.


Yeah, as adorable as she is, Zooey was probably miscast. It should have been someone more like Carrie Anne Moss. Although Trillian, Trinity might have been too on the nose.
 
2020-09-21 10:09:48 AM  

Flappyhead: Uncle Eazy: Mystery Men.

You, me.  Pistols, dawn.


Nathan Rabin, who specializes in revisiting flops, has reviewed that movie twice. The first time he loved it, and the second time he didn't love it as much, because he got stuck on how poorly it lived up to its potential.

/I can link them or just the second one if anyone wants.
 
2020-09-21 10:14:39 AM  

Mugato: FarkingChas: Mugato: The movie wasn't the worst thing ever made (Zooey Dachenn...whatever) is always adorable but it's too bad that it didn't do well enough for the rest of the books to be made. It should get a Netflix series. With Zooy Deachaeane....whatever and that guy who's always cool, whatever he's in.

You don't know about the BBC series?

Yeah, it's unwatchable.

That's the problem with converting the books into movie/TV form, there's too much internal dialog, asides and narration. But it's possible.


There was a much older Cracked article (wanna say by David Wong), about how hard it was to adapt HHG2TG jokes like the following into film:

"He waited a while and nothing happened. He waited a little longer and nothing happened again."
 
2020-09-21 10:18:24 AM  

Xaxor: I don't know, I think Marvin's death was very fitting for the poor android.


Yeah, his death at the end of Book 4 felt very much like a welcome relief for the poor android. Also hard to say that something now several times older than the universe itself is still under warranty.
 
2020-09-21 10:50:28 AM  

abhorrent1: Ugh. My wife made me sit through that stupid movie. Terrible.


I made my wife sit through it.
She complained that she couldn't follow the plot. When I pointed out there wasn't one it made more sense to her.
 
2020-09-21 11:33:20 AM  
Speedingfish:

Yet another Trumpass troll.
So long, and you can keep the fish.
 
2020-09-21 11:59:02 AM  
Fast and loose is just how some stuff is meant to be.
A story like this is that, "loose ends" are not an issue for such a story, they are often part of what allows it to work at all.
You know, provided you brought your own Temporary Suspension of Disbelief with you.

can't make a loose pitch story get tight, it's not the same thing anymore.

there are no plot holes or story problems in Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure.
And if you thought something like that can even have those, that's the first trip up right out of the gate.
It makes it clear real fast, if you have not turned off your brain for silly fun enjoyment at this point, you're not gonna have a good time.

If you did not want your date to be, fast and loose, you can't change them to be not that, it was you that made the wrong date chocie in  the fist place. Just let it go already.
 
2020-09-21 12:30:00 PM  

Mugato: FarkingChas: Mugato: The movie wasn't the worst thing ever made (Zooey Dachenn...whatever) is always adorable but it's too bad that it didn't do well enough for the rest of the books to be made. It should get a Netflix series. With Zooy Deachaeane....whatever and that guy who's always cool, whatever he's in.

You don't know about the BBC series?

Yeah, it's unwatchable.

That's the problem with converting the books into movie/TV form, there's too much internal dialog, asides and narration. But it's possible.


The TV series was based on the radio series and it was scripted before the books were written. And reportedly one of the better gags, that Arthur is stuck incongruously wearing his pajamas and robe throughout all of his travels, was something the show producer insisted on. Adams wanted him to switch to a more futuristic outfit once he boarded the Heart of Gold.
 
2020-09-21 12:40:17 PM  
I loved most of the books in high school, but I tried re-reading them a few years ago and quit after the first. They were just so mean-spirited to me in a way I hadn't noticed before. A humor based on humiliation and terrible things happening in "ironic" ways. I don't have time for that shiat post 2016.

/it's okay if you do
//just not for me
 
2020-09-21 12:40:56 PM  

Gubbo: I wonder is it weird to be a great writer who hates writing


I ~strongly~ suspect most, if not all, great writers hate writing.

It's hard work to make something excellent, regardless of what the "something" is.

As the wise and direct Doctor Thompson put it:  "One of the advantages of being dead, I guess, is that someone else can edit this."  Or, more bluntly:  "I've always considered writing the most hateful kind of work.  I suspect it's a bit like f**king... which is fun only for amateurs.  Old whores don't do much giggling."

Show me an author that enjoys writing, and I bet their work is forgettable pulp, at best.

I mean.... < gestures at every comment on Fark the internet >

Then again, as much as I liked the book, I also didn't hate the movie.  So my opinion is meritless.
 
2020-09-21 12:50:46 PM  

SFSailor: Then again, as much as I liked the book, I also didn't hate the movie. So my opinion is meritless.


I don't hate the movie either, but it was disappointing. It had a great cast, good production values, and nicely quirky art direction. But they fumbled all the jokes, and the editing was a shambling mess. If you've got two title sequences and you love them both, you still have to settle on just one. You don't start with your first one and then slip the second one in a few minutes later. That's incredibly amateurish.
 
2020-09-21 12:56:40 PM  
Here.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03v​3​79k

It does go on to "And Another Thing..." with lots of the original cast.
 
2020-09-21 1:13:08 PM  

SFSailor: Gubbo: I wonder is it weird to be a great writer who hates writing

I ~strongly~ suspect most, if not all, great writers hate writing.

It's hard work to make something excellent, regardless of what the "something" is.

As the wise and direct Doctor Thompson put it:  "One of the advantages of being dead, I guess, is that someone else can edit this."  Or, more bluntly:  "I've always considered writing the most hateful kind of work.  I suspect it's a bit like f**king... which is fun only for amateurs.  Old whores don't do much giggling."

Show me an author that enjoys writing, and I bet their work is forgettable pulp, at best.

I mean.... < gestures at every comment on Fark the internet >

Then again, as much as I liked the book, I also didn't hate the movie.  So my opinion is meritless.


I want to throw up Stephen King as an exception.

I'm sure there are probably others
 
2020-09-21 1:27:42 PM  

Joe USer: Here.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03v3​79k

It does go on to "And Another Thing..." with lots of the original cast.


Does the radio play salvage it at all? I couldn't get past more than the first three chapters of that mess.
 
2020-09-21 2:10:36 PM  

Gubbo: SFSailor: Gubbo: I wonder is it weird to be a great writer who hates writing

I ~strongly~ suspect most, if not all, great writers hate writing.

It's hard work to make something excellent, regardless of what the "something" is.

As the wise and direct Doctor Thompson put it:  "One of the advantages of being dead, I guess, is that someone else can edit this."  Or, more bluntly:  "I've always considered writing the most hateful kind of work.  I suspect it's a bit like f**king... which is fun only for amateurs.  Old whores don't do much giggling."

Show me an author that enjoys writing, and I bet their work is forgettable pulp, at best.

I mean.... < gestures at every comment on Fark the internet >

Then again, as much as I liked the book, I also didn't hate the movie.  So my opinion is meritless.

I want to throw up Stephen King as an exception.

I'm sure there are probably others


He doesn't enjoy it, but creates meritless pulp anyway?  Struggling is probably necessary, but not sufficient, to be a great author.  There are plenty of people who struggle with writing who create garbage.

Kidding.  Mostly.

At least, re: pre-hit-by-minivan-and-quit-the-good-s​tuff King.  But re-reading some of his old stuff (_IT!_ for one), recently, it really has some terrible bits.  Then there's the whole "I can't figure out how to end it, so I'll just blow everything up" problem.

And I say that as someone who usually defends King.  Usually.  But being an unusually good horror/fantasy author is a bit like being the tallest member of the Lollipop Guild.
 
2020-09-21 2:50:07 PM  

KingBiefWhistle: The easiest answer is that it always was a Trilogy and ended with Trillian saving the universe from Hactar, and then Arthur failing to accidentally destroy it because of course he would. So Long and Thanks for All the Fish is Douglas Adams writing self-insert fan fiction and way too awkward to read (even if it has some good bits) and fark Mostly Harmless.


I interpreted Mostly Harmless as Adams saying "No I don't want to write another book just because you publishers want to make more money. No! Really! I'm not writing this!"
 
2020-09-21 3:12:53 PM  

You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: Mugato: The movie wasn't the worst thing ever made (Zooey Dachenn...whatever) is always adorable but it's too bad that it didn't do well enough for the rest of the books to be made. It should get a Netflix series. With Zooy Deachaeane....whatever and that guy who's always cool, whatever he's in.

It's got some good performances, but the forced romance between Arthur and Trillian kills it for me.

You don't need a guide for a galaxy where you fall out the front door in your dressing gown one day and end up with your dick in Zooey Deschanel.


Arthur and Trillian together was a terrible call. If we need romance, it should be with Ford "I ran to grab one thing before the planet blew up and it was Arthur" Prefect.

I love HHGTTG and reread it frequently. I always assumed DNA exploded everyone so he could do something else. But, I mean, he discarded canon frequently. I never took the finality of Mostly Harmless too badly. Or the canon divergence from one medium to the other. I am excited to see what Hulu does with the show.
 
2020-09-21 3:20:12 PM  

billstewart: KingBiefWhistle: The easiest answer is that it always was a Trilogy and ended with Trillian saving the universe from Hactar, and then Arthur failing to accidentally destroy it because of course he would. So Long and Thanks for All the Fish is Douglas Adams writing self-insert fan fiction and way too awkward to read (even if it has some good bits) and fark Mostly Harmless.

I interpreted Mostly Harmless as Adams saying "No I don't want to write another book just because you publishers want to make more money. No! Really! I'm not writing this!"


He pretty much admitted he was lashing out and burning everything down during a particularly bad moment of no longer wanting to be known as the Hitchhiker's Guide guy. I think he said it was a talk with Pink Floyd that got him to realize that he farked up and needed to undo or at least handwave MH.
 
2020-09-21 4:01:49 PM  

The Companion: You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: Mugato: The movie wasn't the worst thing ever made (Zooey Dachenn...whatever) is always adorable but it's too bad that it didn't do well enough for the rest of the books to be made. It should get a Netflix series. With Zooy Deachaeane....whatever and that guy who's always cool, whatever he's in.

It's got some good performances, but the forced romance between Arthur and Trillian kills it for me.

You don't need a guide for a galaxy where you fall out the front door in your dressing gown one day and end up with your dick in Zooey Deschanel.

Arthur and Trillian together was a terrible call. If we need romance, it should be with Ford "I ran to grab one thing before the planet blew up and it was Arthur" Prefect.

I love HHGTTG and reread it frequently. I always assumed DNA exploded everyone so he could do something else. But, I mean, he discarded canon frequently. I never took the finality of Mostly Harmless too badly. Or the canon divergence from one medium to the other. I am excited to see what Hulu does with the show.


Just because you mentioned tv, I started humming the music from the old BBC version
 
2020-09-21 4:29:40 PM  

The Companion: You'd turn it off when I was halfway across: Mugato: The movie wasn't the worst thing ever made (Zooey Dachenn...whatever) is always adorable but it's too bad that it didn't do well enough for the rest of the books to be made. It should get a Netflix series. With Zooy Deachaeane....whatever and that guy who's always cool, whatever he's in.

It's got some good performances, but the forced romance between Arthur and Trillian kills it for me.

You don't need a guide for a galaxy where you fall out the front door in your dressing gown one day and end up with your dick in Zooey Deschanel.

Arthur and Trillian together was a terrible call. If we need romance, it should be with Ford "I ran to grab one thing before the planet blew up and it was Arthur" Prefect.

I love HHGTTG and reread it frequently. I always assumed DNA exploded everyone so he could do something else. But, I mean, he discarded canon frequently. I never took the finality of Mostly Harmless too badly. Or the canon divergence from one medium to the other. I am excited to see what Hulu does with the show.


But who or what would it take to get Ford to settle down and take seriously?  He's got all of Zaphod's awfulness when it comes to commitment and responsibility but with just enough self awareness to be able to admit it.
 
2020-09-21 5:04:16 PM  
People are crazy. The movie was pretty good. Yes, they found a odd way to shoehorn Malkovich in it, but it's as on theme as the book was. I've never gotten the hate from the 'purists' who can't decided if the radio show or the books was the definitive source, which I find laughable for obvious reasons.
 
2020-09-21 5:22:57 PM  
I vastly prefer the Making Of DVD to the film.
 
2020-09-21 6:03:56 PM  
To sum up my thoughts on the books:

First three: Amazing original trilogy

4th book: 95% skull-crushingly boring romance novel that can be summed up as "Arthur gets a girlfriend and teaches her how to fly." A decent ending takes up most of the remainder. I should have skipped to the last chapter at that warning at the beginning that said some of you may want to do that.

5th book: Confusing, even more bitter than usual, and ends with a giant "fark you" of sorts to the reader. But at least something happens.

6th book, written by someone else using DNA's notes as a starting point: Dunno, I never read it. Reviews are as mixed as other popular book series that a new author wrote a sequel to.
 
2020-09-21 7:07:25 PM  
I loved the original radio shows, books, and the tv show, but I find Dirk Maggs' style really off putting.  He insists on trying way too hard, being too clever, referencing too much canon to tie pretty bows, and generally cranking everything up to 11, as some sort of new radio show aesthetic (his "Audio Movies" philosophy) and ugh.  The originals played it straight, at least in some sense...  it was a practical guide to a crazy universe, a front row seat to a straightlaced guy unwillingly forced into exploring that universe.  With Maggs it just feels like it's all a big circus, all the time.
 
2020-09-21 7:58:29 PM  

Mugato: The movie wasn't the worst thing ever made (Zooey Dachenn...whatever) is always adorable but it's too bad that it didn't do well enough for the rest of the books to be made. It should get a Netflix series. With Zooy Deachaeane....whatever and that guy who's always cool, whatever he's in.


Zoi de'Chanel
 
2020-09-21 9:51:36 PM  

EdgeRunner: Joe USer: Here.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03v3​79k

It does go on to "And Another Thing..." with lots of the original cast.

Does the radio play salvage it at all? I couldn't get past more than the first three chapters of that mess.


It has its moments. But it's obvious that the series is over and gliding along on nostalgia isn't going to work.
 
2020-09-21 10:53:08 PM  

Joe USer: EdgeRunner: Joe USer: Here.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03v3​79k

It does go on to "And Another Thing..." with lots of the original cast.

Does the radio play salvage it at all? I couldn't get past more than the first three chapters of that mess.

It has its moments. But it's obvious that the series is over and gliding along on nostalgia isn't going to work.


And Another Thing didn't generate any nostalgia for me, though. Just a deep, seething annoyance that I'd been suckered into buying a terrible book.
 
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