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(Salon)   Zoom is making us vain, and you probably think this conference call is about you don't you   (salon.com) divider line
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2020-09-20 3:05:44 PM  
What do you mean 'us' Subby?
 
2020-09-20 3:35:44 PM  
It's not vanity when the conference call really IS about you, it's just a different problem if the call includes HR and lawyers.
 
2020-09-20 3:57:43 PM  
If this is what you have time and energy to worry about during work or school...
 
2020-09-20 4:01:46 PM  
People have mentioned (in some calls) that, "Corporate has really been pushing people to use their cameras when in a meeting."  My response is always, "So these people have never conducted a telephone call with multiple parties?  I have no problems conducting business with someone I can't see and who also cannot see me."
 
2020-09-20 4:26:46 PM  
One of my favorite jobs I had was working for a company where the entire team was remote, we used Skype for voice calls/meetings. We never met in person. We never turned on the video part.

We got our shiat done and logged off for the day and it was GLORIOUS!
 
2020-09-20 5:01:29 PM  
When I see myself in a Zoom window, I marvel that crowds with torches and bags of rocks don't chase me down the street.

I don't know if that's vanity or just old age.
 
2020-09-20 5:05:31 PM  
Zoom isn't making me vain: it's making me feel like I look damn good in a striped shirt!

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2020-09-20 5:08:59 PM  

skinink: Zoom isn't making me vain: it's making me feel like I look damn good in a striped shirt!

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Oh, and scr-ub-ew y-ub-ou, s-ub-ubby!
 
2020-09-20 5:23:01 PM  
Does no one lower their resolution to 360p? You can't make out any definite blemishes like that.

At least working in a mask means half my face can be ignored. And my mustache is getting a steamy bath all day.
 
2020-09-20 6:01:36 PM  
Well don't that just put the clouds in your coffee.
 
2020-09-20 6:02:59 PM  

AstroJesus: Well don't that just put the clouds in your coffee.


The milk went bad.  I had clods in my coffee.
 
2020-09-20 6:22:04 PM  
I am definitely not a fan of seeing my own face on the conference calls.  My laptop doesnt have a camera but occasionally i end up having to use webex on my cell phone and it ends up turned on.
 
2020-09-20 6:28:50 PM  
It shows us how vain we are when we know we're going to be seen. No more vain than before however
 
2020-09-20 6:43:03 PM  

Chief Superintendent Lookout: People have mentioned (in some calls) that, "Corporate has really been pushing people to use their cameras when in a meeting."  My response is always, "So these people have never conducted a telephone call with multiple parties?  I have no problems conducting business with someone I can't see and who also cannot see me."


I was on a recent zoom conference call, and the person leading the call (not the highest step in the organization, just the person who was leading the agenda) encouraged everybody to turn on their camera, whil sort of acknowledging it was okay not to if they didn't want to.

My first thought was that until quarantine, this meeting had been a conference call. I've never seen most of these people before march, and we've been having these meetings for like 3 years.

I kind of like seeing people too, but who cares?
 
2020-09-20 6:45:03 PM  
There has been a certain amount of strategic camera angling for me. I'm a big guy, and if the camera is angled certain directions it makes me look giganticer. Like a giant blob with a small head on top.

I may festudiously avoid those kind of angles.
 
2020-09-20 6:47:28 PM  
I just don't have a camera at home. Problem solved and it's like a telephone call that lets me share my desktop as needed.
 
2020-09-20 6:47:30 PM  

Zaphod42: It shows us how vain we are when we know we're going to be seen. No more vain than before however


I think all it's done is translate the vanity from people who were already attention whores in person to people who are attention whores on Zoom. The same kids that made their parents (parenting fail) buy them brand name clothes, the right shoes, and that kind of crap are doing the same in Zoom and accessorizing their room, or the finding backgrounds to stand out.

The same awful people that speak at the office only to be heard, and those who treated meetings as an excuse to not be working and to socialize now do this on Zoom or Teams.

This is a huge revelation.
 
2020-09-20 6:51:18 PM  
We switched from WebEx to Zoom. No one uses the camera, except for a few narcissistic pricks who think seeing them is somehow intimidating.
 
2020-09-20 6:59:00 PM  

kyleaugustus: Does no one lower their resolution to 360p? You can't make out any definite blemishes like that.

At least working in a mask means half my face can be ignored. And my mustache is getting a steamy bath all day.


Steamy Mustache Bath is my bluegrass Queen cover band.
 
2020-09-20 7:07:04 PM  
as always, rocketnews shows us the way.

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or, y'know, use some crizappy dynamic(-ish) filter like Satou-san!
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/seriously people are using zoom isn't that nonsense still a plague on security for so many reasons
 
2020-09-20 7:30:09 PM  
I've heard the word vain used in a derogatory way a couple of times lately. Personally I think showing an interest in your appearance is a good thing. I like to look as good as possible without being impractical, and prefer others who show me the same courtesy, so I had to visit google.

"Being vain usually means having pride, and going to excessive lengths to make yourself look and feel better, to a fault. The "to a fault" part is integral to what vanity has come to mean to people. It's fine to want to look good, but to want to look good ahead of beinggood person is selfish."

So okay, if looking good turns you into an asshole, maybe give it a rest. Unfortunately where I am I see more people who made no effort at all than I see people who went for looks at the expense of personality. So I feel like encouraging a little more vanity might be a good thing. YMMV.
 
2020-09-20 7:30:41 PM  
"Okay, I think that's everyone, but before we get started... um... is that... actor Warren Beatty? Yeah, this call is only for the Essbase team. Who invited him?"
 
2020-09-20 8:16:42 PM  
All I wanna do is zoom-zoom-zoom-zoom and a boom boom
 
2020-09-20 10:04:27 PM  

exqqqme: All I wanna do is zoom-zoom-zoom-zoom and a boom boom


JUST SHAKE YOUR RUMP!

/When I was 12, I thought that video was veeeeery interesting...
 
2020-09-20 10:10:50 PM  
I've turned my camera on exactly once since March.  It's not really needed.
 
2020-09-20 10:19:16 PM  
When my co-workers are all like "haha we should turn our cameras on" I'm like "haha you know what fark you." It's bad enough that we had to add our profile pictures in to webex so when someone shares a screen sometimes I'm met with my big fat bald head staring back at me.

/I've worked like 99% of this job wearing shorts
//if they're lucky I might put on a T-shirt
 
2020-09-20 10:47:30 PM  
Our appearance on Zoom - especially when interacting with clients - is monitored by our employers. "Hints" about one's appearance must be taken seriously when the nation is facing record levels of unemployment.
 
2020-09-21 12:06:48 AM  
I've only used zoom with one doctor and we just talk by phone now. I wasn't really worried about looking pretty for her. I bought a camera and mic a couple of years ago and they are still packaged up. I was having issues with my old tower so I never bothered, then I spent nearly a year with only a dinky tablet and hadn't thought about them until this thread. Yep, still packaged up in a drawer of my computer desk.
 
2020-09-21 10:10:29 AM  
It just makes me want to have the coolest background of the call. Enterprise-D conference room is usually good, as some people think I'm in a 90's styled conference room.
 
2020-09-21 1:43:31 PM  
This conference call I'm on is totally not about me. I got borrowed to do one task for their team, but they're doing three days of agile iteration planning right now...zzzzzz....

Chief Superintendent Lookout: People have mentioned (in some calls) that, "Corporate has really been pushing people to use their cameras when in a meeting."  My response is always, "So these people have never conducted a telephone call with multiple parties?  I have no problems conducting business with someone I can't see and who also cannot see me."


I've worked mostly remote for a decade, and partly remote for another decade, and we've done audio conference calls with shared whiteboard or Powerpoint, because that's what gets work done; the video is almost never helpful. There's an upper-corporate push to use video, just like they also pushed us to have open offices for "collaboration", which also makes it hard to get work done. I'm on a remote team, I finally met my boss last year in person after working for him for five years, which was nice but not important for either of us.
 
2020-09-21 6:37:27 PM  
I wouldn't call it vanity, but I did take a shower this week before my meetings.
 
2020-09-22 12:42:29 AM  
We didn't need Zoom to make us vain subby.
 
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