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2020-09-20 12:34:53 AM  
Nobody should ever go to Japan.
 
2020-09-20 12:38:58 AM  

sourballs: I couldn't get good weed there, but the hash I bought was strong. I never smoked outside of the house. Also, weirdly, mushrooms were legal then (the 90s), and could be bought openly at a little shop near the train station of my city.


Psilocybin cubensis or amanita muscaria (the red and white ones)? Seems more likely to be the latter since they're not illegal and they use them for cooking but they boil them first and throw out the water to "detoxify" them.
 
2020-09-20 5:18:58 AM  

Skeleton Man: sourballs: I couldn't get good weed there, but the hash I bought was strong. I never smoked outside of the house. Also, weirdly, mushrooms were legal then (the 90s), and could be bought openly at a little shop near the train station of my city.

Psilocybin cubensis or amanita muscaria (the red and white ones)? Seems more likely to be the latter since they're not illegal and they use them for cooking but they boil them first and throw out the water to "detoxify" them.


Psilocybin. They were dried and purplish. They were sold in a paper bag. You could ask for small or large. They were legal then, but not now.
 
2020-09-20 6:32:28 AM  

Likwit: Japanese people still believe in reefer madness. My wife is coming around, but she used to think smoking made you snap and start randomly attacking people.


How silly.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/​m​an-convicted-in-sacramento-after-attac​king-elderly-mother-and-sister-over-po​t-smoke/ar-BB199S12
 
2020-09-20 6:40:22 AM  

tirob: Likwit: Japanese people still believe in reefer madness. My wife is coming around, but she used to think smoking made you snap and start randomly attacking people.

How silly.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/m​an-convicted-in-sacramento-after-attac​king-elderly-mother-and-sister-over-po​t-smoke/ar-BB199S12


Shut the fark up.
 
2020-09-20 6:44:38 AM  

tirob: Likwit: Japanese people still believe in reefer madness. My wife is coming around, but she used to think smoking made you snap and start randomly attacking people.

How silly.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/m​an-convicted-in-sacramento-after-attac​king-elderly-mother-and-sister-over-po​t-smoke/ar-BB199S12


I hope you don't really think that means anything...
 
2020-09-20 6:55:28 AM  

Likwit: tirob: Likwit: Japanese people still believe in reefer madness. My wife is coming around, but she used to think smoking made you snap and start randomly attacking people.

How silly.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/m​an-convicted-in-sacramento-after-attac​king-elderly-mother-and-sister-over-po​t-smoke/ar-BB199S12

I hope you don't really think that means anything...


On the face of it, it would appear to me to mean that Thomas snapped primarily because he was using weed.  Do you have a different interpretation?

Skeleton Man:

Shut the fark up.

I think it's a good bet that Thomas did indeed say that to his mother and his sister just before he attacked them, absolutely.
 
2020-09-20 9:06:41 AM  

tirob: On the face of it, it would appear to me to mean that Thomas snapped primarily because he was using weed.  Do you have a different interpretation?


It's impossible to draw that conclusion. What a silly person you are.
 
2020-09-20 10:11:48 AM  

Likwit: tirob: On the face of it, it would appear to me to mean that Thomas snapped primarily because he was using weed.  Do you have a different interpretation?

It's impossible to draw that conclusion.


On the face of that sad story, it appears that Thomas fired one up, that his relatives told him to knock it off because they couldn't stand the smell, and that he reacted to that directive by slugging and biting them.  If you have any evidence whatsoever as to why my conclusion is erroneous, by all means please post it.
 
2020-09-20 10:52:16 AM  

tirob: Likwit: tirob: On the face of it, it would appear to me to mean that Thomas snapped primarily because he was using weed.  Do you have a different interpretation?

It's impossible to draw that conclusion.

On the face of that sad story, it appears that Thomas fired one up, that his relatives told him to knock it off because they couldn't stand the smell, and that he reacted to that directive by slugging and biting them.  If you have any evidence whatsoever as to why my conclusion is erroneous, by all means please post it.


We post evidence to refute you all the time. You never believe a word of it, because you're a moron, and a stubborn asshole.
 
2020-09-20 11:52:57 AM  

Skeleton Man: tirob: Likwit: tirob: On the face of it, it would appear to me to mean that Thomas snapped primarily because he was using weed.  Do you have a different interpretation?

It's impossible to draw that conclusion.

On the face of that sad story, it appears that Thomas fired one up, that his relatives told him to knock it off because they couldn't stand the smell, and that he reacted to that directive by slugging and biting them.  If you have any evidence whatsoever as to why my conclusion is erroneous, by all means please post it.

We post evidence to refute you all the time.


If you're as good as doing that as you say you are, you should certainly be able to post some evidence that refutes this particular conclusion I came to based on the facts recited in the link I put up about Mr. Thomas, amirite?

Oh, and one other thing:  Lame-ass insults aren't "evidence."  You get an E for effort, though.
 
2020-09-20 12:10:04 PM  

tirob: Likwit: tirob: On the face of it, it would appear to me to mean that Thomas snapped primarily because he was using weed.  Do you have a different interpretation?

It's impossible to draw that conclusion.

On the face of that sad story, it appears that Thomas fired one up, that his relatives told him to knock it off because they couldn't stand the smell, and that he reacted to that directive by slugging and biting them.  If you have any evidence whatsoever as to why my conclusion is erroneous, by all means please post it.


There's absolutely zero evidence smoking caused him to do it. You're just throwing up a post hoc ergo propter hoc.
 
2020-09-20 1:06:29 PM  

Likwit: tirob:

On the face of that sad story, it appears that Thomas fired one up, that his relatives told him to knock it off because they couldn't stand the smell, and that he reacted to that directive by slugging and biting them.  If you have any evidence whatsoever as to why my conclusion is erroneous, by all means please post it.

There's absolutely zero evidence smoking caused him to do it. You're just throwing up a post hoc ergo propter hoc.


Sure.  If his mother and his sister had just shut up and let Thomas use, he never would have raised a hand to them, right?

In this case, the post hoc appears to have followed the admonition to Thomas not to use by a few seconds.  I think that propter hoc is a good bet here in the absence of any evidence that any other event spurred Thomas to go after his relatives.
 
2020-09-20 2:21:34 PM  

tirob: Likwit: tirob:

On the face of that sad story, it appears that Thomas fired one up, that his relatives told him to knock it off because they couldn't stand the smell, and that he reacted to that directive by slugging and biting them.  If you have any evidence whatsoever as to why my conclusion is erroneous, by all means please post it.

There's absolutely zero evidence smoking caused him to do it. You're just throwing up a post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Sure.  If his mother and his sister had just shut up and let Thomas use, he never would have raised a hand to them, right?

In this case, the post hoc appears to have followed the admonition to Thomas not to use by a few seconds.  I think that propter hoc is a good bet here in the absence of any evidence that any other event spurred Thomas to go after his relatives.


So if they didn't want him cooking salmon because they hate when the house smells like fish, the salmon would be to blame when he attacked them over it?

This is a simple case of someone being fed up with being told what to do by people he lives with.

I'm sure there are a lot more details in the court documents. I'm not paying to download them, but you're welcome to:

https://services.saccourt.ca.gov/Publ​i​cCaseAccess/
 
2020-09-20 2:52:31 PM  

Skeleton Man: tirob: Likwit: tirob:

On the face of that sad story, it appears that Thomas fired one up, that his relatives told him to knock it off because they couldn't stand the smell, and that he reacted to that directive by slugging and biting them.  If you have any evidence whatsoever as to why my conclusion is erroneous, by all means please post it.

There's absolutely zero evidence smoking caused him to do it. You're just throwing up a post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Sure.  If his mother and his sister had just shut up and let Thomas use, he never would have raised a hand to them, right?

In this case, the post hoc appears to have followed the admonition to Thomas not to use by a few seconds.  I think that propter hoc is a good bet here in the absence of any evidence that any other event spurred Thomas to go after his relatives.

So if they didn't want him cooking salmon because they hate when the house smells like fish, the salmon would be to blame when he attacked them over it?


Rather than making sh*t up, how's about you stick to the facts of what Thomas actually did?  And while you're at it, how's about you refrain from linking to paywalls in the course of attempting to back up your BS assertions?

Skeleton Man: This is a simple case of someone being fed up with being told what to do by people he lives with.


Quite right.  And specifically, a case of someone's being told not to smoke weed, and reacting to that by causing injuries to two people that were serious enough to send both of them to the hospital.
 
2020-09-20 3:51:44 PM  

tirob: Skeleton Man: tirob: Likwit: tirob:

On the face of that sad story, it appears that Thomas fired one up, that his relatives told him to knock it off because they couldn't stand the smell, and that he reacted to that directive by slugging and biting them.  If you have any evidence whatsoever as to why my conclusion is erroneous, by all means please post it.

There's absolutely zero evidence smoking caused him to do it. You're just throwing up a post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Sure.  If his mother and his sister had just shut up and let Thomas use, he never would have raised a hand to them, right?

In this case, the post hoc appears to have followed the admonition to Thomas not to use by a few seconds.  I think that propter hoc is a good bet here in the absence of any evidence that any other event spurred Thomas to go after his relatives.

So if they didn't want him cooking salmon because they hate when the house smells like fish, the salmon would be to blame when he attacked them over it?

Rather than making sh*t up, how's about you stick to the facts of what Thomas actually did?  And while you're at it, how's about you refrain from linking to paywalls in the course of attempting to back up your BS assertions?

Skeleton Man: This is a simple case of someone being fed up with being told what to do by people he lives with.

Quite right.  And specifically, a case of someone's being told not to smoke weed, and reacting to that by causing injuries to two people that were serious enough to send both of them to the hospital.


You're impossible. Welcome to my ignore list.
 
2020-09-20 6:51:45 PM  

tirob: Skeleton Man: tirob: Likwit: tirob:

On the face of that sad story, it appears that Thomas fired one up, that his relatives told him to knock it off because they couldn't stand the smell, and that he reacted to that directive by slugging and biting them.  If you have any evidence whatsoever as to why my conclusion is erroneous, by all means please post it.

There's absolutely zero evidence smoking caused him to do it. You're just throwing up a post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Sure.  If his mother and his sister had just shut up and let Thomas use, he never would have raised a hand to them, right?

In this case, the post hoc appears to have followed the admonition to Thomas not to use by a few seconds.  I think that propter hoc is a good bet here in the absence of any evidence that any other event spurred Thomas to go after his relatives.

So if they didn't want him cooking salmon because they hate when the house smells like fish, the salmon would be to blame when he attacked them over it?

Rather than making sh*t up, how's about you stick to the facts of what Thomas actually did?  And while you're at it, how's about you refrain from linking to paywalls in the course of attempting to back up your BS assertions?

Skeleton Man: This is a simple case of someone being fed up with being told what to do by people he lives with.

Quite right.  And specifically, a case of someone's being told not to smoke weed, and reacting to that by causing injuries to two people that were serious enough to send both of them to the hospital.


Are you OK? You really don't understand cause and effect. I assume you are an adult...?
 
2020-09-20 7:06:57 PM  
Likwit:

Are you OK? You really don't understand cause and effect. I assume you are an adult...?

1.  Yes.  2.  Re cause and effect, I asked you a question before:    If his mother and his sister had just shut up and let Thomas use, he never would have raised a hand to them, right?  Do you have any insight on this point?   3.  I am.
 
2020-09-20 7:10:48 PM  

tirob: Likwit:

Are you OK? You really don't understand cause and effect. I assume you are an adult...?

1.  Yes.  2.  Re cause and effect, I asked you a question before:    If his mother and his sister had just shut up and let Thomas use, he never would have raised a hand to them, right?  Do you have any insight on this point?   3.  I am.


Yeah, but what does that have to do with marijuana? There is less than zero evidence that the chemical substances in marijuana had anything to do with him snapping.
 
2020-09-20 8:23:39 PM  

Likwit: tirob: Likwit:

Are you OK? You really don't understand cause and effect. I assume you are an adult...?

1.  Yes.  2.  Re cause and effect, I asked you a question before:    If his mother and his sister had just shut up and let Thomas use, he never would have raised a hand to them, right?  Do you have any insight on this point?   3.  I am.

Yeah, but what does that have to do with marijuana? There is less than zero evidence that the chemical substances in marijuana had anything to do with him snapping.


I take it that you agree with me that Thomas lashed out because he perceived that his mother and his sister stood between him and his weed.

What does that have to do with weed?  Everything, because the lesson here is that there are cases where, if weed users perceive that you intend to stand between them and their drug, you run the risk of being physically assaulted.

You wrote this:   My wife is coming around, but she used to think smoking made you snap and start randomly attacking people.

Maybe the weed doesn't do that, but a weed *habit* can.
 
2020-09-20 8:43:54 PM  
I used to live in Japan. Every time a foreigner in Japan got caught with drugs, me and my foreign coworkers were always reminded by all of our superiors at work that "drugs are illegal in Japan, neh."

Also, I was driving on the road in Hokkaido one time near the Northern coast. I had seen some cool road signs in that area (one sign with curse words toward Russia for still possessing the Sakhalin Islands) and I was working on my reading of kanji. I see this one sign I had never seen before and slowed down and stopped to see if I could read it. As I was sitting there a few cars passed me and gave me weird looks. It took some time, but I slowly realized the sign said something like "Warning! Wild marijuana grows in this area. Please do not stop. If you see a vehicle stopped, please contact the local police." I drove away very quickly after that.
 
2020-09-20 8:58:57 PM  

tirob: Likwit: tirob: Likwit:

Are you OK? You really don't understand cause and effect. I assume you are an adult...?

1.  Yes.  2.  Re cause and effect, I asked you a question before:    If his mother and his sister had just shut up and let Thomas use, he never would have raised a hand to them, right?  Do you have any insight on this point?   3.  I am.

Yeah, but what does that have to do with marijuana? There is less than zero evidence that the chemical substances in marijuana had anything to do with him snapping.

I take it that you agree with me that Thomas lashed out because he perceived that his mother and his sister stood between him and his weed.

What does that have to do with weed?  Everything, because the lesson here is that there are cases where, if weed users perceive that you intend to stand between them and their drug, you run the risk of being physically assaulted.

You wrote this:   My wife is coming around, but she used to think smoking made you snap and start randomly attacking people.

Maybe the weed doesn't do that, but a weed *habit* can.


That's quite a leap in logic.
 
2020-09-21 5:35:51 AM  

Likwit: tirob: Likwit: tirob: Likwit:

Are you OK? You really don't understand cause and effect. I assume you are an adult...?

1.  Yes.  2.  Re cause and effect, I asked you a question before:    If his mother and his sister had just shut up and let Thomas use, he never would have raised a hand to them, right?  Do you have any insight on this point?   3.  I am.

Yeah, but what does that have to do with marijuana? There is less than zero evidence that the chemical substances in marijuana had anything to do with him snapping.

I take it that you agree with me that Thomas lashed out because he perceived that his mother and his sister stood between him and his weed.

What does that have to do with weed?  Everything, because the lesson here is that there are cases where, if weed users perceive that you intend to stand between them and their drug, you run the risk of being physically assaulted.

You wrote this:   My wife is coming around, but she used to think smoking made you snap and start randomly attacking people.

Maybe the weed doesn't do that, but a weed *habit* can.

That's quite a leap in logic.


For the purposes of determining whether smoking [weed can make] you snap , the distinction between whether the chemicals in weed do it or whether a habit of using weed can cause someone to do it is one without the slightest difference.  Comparable, say, to the distinction between a bar patron getting drunk and beating up a bartender, and a bar patron beating up a bartender because the latter refused to serve him alcohol.
 
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