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2020-09-19 11:59:50 AM  
Universal Basic Income NOW.
 
2020-09-19 12:02:28 PM  
Might I sugest agin, a skul-gun for my head.
Yesterday in Batery Park, some scum we all know
pushes smack for NSF gets jumpy and draws. I take
2 .22's, 1 in flesh, 1 in augs, befor I can get out
that dam asalt gun.

If I could kil just by thought, it would be beter.
Is it my job to be a human target-practis backstop?

Gunther Hermann
 
2020-09-19 12:06:55 PM  
People who are chipped are going to move ahead in life faster than those not. Once employers realize chipped employees can out work the non-chipped, it will be a requirement for employment.
 
2020-09-19 12:15:27 PM  
I may have contacts, glasses, a heart valve, hearing aid, artificial leg, pacemaker, cochlear implant, and deep brain stimulation, but still think cyborgs are pure science fiction.
 
2020-09-19 12:17:07 PM  
I cannot wait!
 
2020-09-19 12:20:47 PM  
Seriously, cyborgs?  LOL.  No.  Your job will be replaced by someone able to work faster and cheaper than you, either locally or internationally.  If you have a high-skill job with correspondingly high wages, you'll simply be replaced by a computer.

Cyborgs are farking expensive and have the downsides of both humans and computers.  Terrible idea.
 
2020-09-19 12:39:06 PM  
I see no mention of sexbot. Can't have a workforce of androids without sexbots leading the way.
 
2020-09-19 12:40:37 PM  
ya i think paying for full robots is going to be worth not feeding and picking up crap all over the place.
 
2020-09-19 1:09:45 PM  
Robots, not cyborgs. Robots do not require health care or want raises.
 
2020-09-19 1:25:29 PM  

GodComplex: I see no mention of sexbot. Can't have a workforce of androids without sexbots leading the way.


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2020-09-19 1:27:06 PM  
Cognitive non-repetitive.
 
2020-09-19 1:30:48 PM  
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I've trained for this.
 
2020-09-19 1:31:38 PM  
we all think it's crazy and stupid until the guy with the solar powered industrial machine dick takes your wife
 
2020-09-19 1:49:54 PM  
Well, it's this thread again, so someone has to do it:

/Obligatory
 
2020-09-19 1:54:31 PM  

Metaluna Mutant: I may have contacts, glasses, a heart valve, hearing aid, artificial leg, pacemaker, cochlear implant, and deep brain stimulation, but still think cyborgs are pure science fiction.


I always appreciate the "at what point am I no longer human" argument that ignores all these things
 
2020-09-19 2:12:23 PM  

Glitchwerks: Might I sugest agin, a skul-gun for my head.
Yesterday in Batery Park, some scum we all know
pushes smack for NSF gets jumpy and draws. I take
2 .22's, 1 in flesh, 1 in augs, befor I can get out
that dam asalt gun.

If I could kil just by thought, it would be beter.
Is it my job to be a human target-practis backstop?

Gunther Hermann


JC laughs in nano-aug.
 
2020-09-19 2:21:27 PM  
I honestly don't buy into the fear mongering around this. Not because I'm "pro-chip" but how many "life altering technologies" have actually lived up to that in the last 15 to 20 years?

Electric/Hybrid Cars? Nothing but novelties at this point.
Google Glasses? Laughably dated pop-culture history at this point.
AI? Some potential there but still no where near the "Life altering" stage.
Automatic cars? Some progress but nowhere near enough to even be feasible for another 10 years minimum. Facial recognition? Well... COVID kinda threw a wrench into that, plus the various false positive/racist biases that were starting to plague it.
Ability-enhancing armor? I think it still exists but very far from prevalent.

I mean hell, I STILL know people who rely on a fax machine and don't even have an email... I get that they are an extreme exception but a lot of older people struggle with and even refuse to grow with the times. They are the ones still pulling the strings as we've all seen so, no I do not fear microchipping anymore than I do "smart" appliances.
 
2020-09-19 2:39:35 PM  

Mad_Radhu: GodComplex: I see no mention of sexbot. Can't have a workforce of androids without sexbots leading the way.

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That's the future we need.
 
2020-09-19 2:59:16 PM  
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Get back to work!
 
2020-09-19 3:01:44 PM  

Glitchwerks: Might I sugest agin, a skul-gun for my head.
Yesterday in Batery Park, some scum we all know
pushes smack for NSF gets jumpy and draws. I take
2 .22's, 1 in flesh, 1 in augs, befor I can get out
that dam asalt gun.

If I could kil just by thought, it would be beter.
Is it my job to be a human target-practis backstop?

Gunther Hermann


Laputan machine.
 
2020-09-19 3:14:40 PM  

Visual Howlaround Title Sequence: Robots, not cyborgs. Robots do not require health care or want raises.


Or vacations... or unions... or maternity leave... or individual training...
 
2020-09-19 3:40:38 PM  
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2020-09-19 3:56:56 PM  

Visual Howlaround Title Sequence: Robots, not cyborgs. Robots do not require health care or want raises.


Right, robots don't require maintenance and I'm sure robot manufacturers will never move to leases.
 
2020-09-19 4:14:54 PM  

Nogrhi: Visual Howlaround Title Sequence: Robots, not cyborgs. Robots do not require health care or want raises.

Or vacations... or unions... or maternity leave... or individual training...


Robot training will be a big future career.
 
2020-09-19 4:25:17 PM  
Automation and technological advances have been part of human civilization ever since the first early man snapped off a tree branch and fashioned it into a spear. And yet, through all that time, we've only added more jobs for more people, and at least through most of post-WWII history, well paying jobs to all people in all countries to do more work than ever before.

So why fight it? The result will be even more work available for humans. We just don't know what to call these new work, and how to classify them.

Here's one example:

1950s: "software programming", done by perhaps hundreds of women, at secretarial pay scale. And the programming is in Assembly language level programming.

2000s: "software programming", done by perhaps tens of millions of people (mostly men, now), at very good, high rates. And programming is in a multitude of languages, from micro-programming to no-code/low-code programming.

So what might happen with cyborgs? Certainly, all automation and technologies kill the jobs they're designed to make obsolete. But then, their existence flourishes a whole industry that grows around them. Maybe there will be cyborg wranglers, cyborg customizers, cyborg sales (for sure), cyborg maintenance, cyborg resellers, cyborg service providers, cyborg VARs (value-added resellers), used cyborg brokers, cyborg transporters, movies made with cyborg in the plot line, porn made with cyborg in the plot line, cyborg sports (c-sports? we already have/had robot wars), it's whatever people can dream up and have it catch on with the market.
 
2020-09-19 4:33:59 PM  
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The AJ^6 Cyborg Construct was a cybernetic implant which, when attached to the back of one's head, could allow the user to improve memory and increase productivity.  The Galactic Empire made these available to their workers forced them on some people to improve their performance, at the cost of their personality.
 
2020-09-19 4:39:17 PM  
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2020-09-19 4:44:36 PM  

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Have been waiting for Ace and his enhancements
 
2020-09-19 4:52:05 PM  
Pfft. Most employers do their damndest to avoid all the benefits they can. You think Amazon's going to pay to augment their workforce to make them more efficient at locating things in their warehouses, or give them robo-legs or exosuits to sidestep joint damage from the workload, even if BCIs weren't still in Elon's moon-land of a mind?

fark no, same as always, automate where doable, and work fully fleshy meatbags into the ground when that's the cheaper option.
 
2020-09-19 5:13:37 PM  

Capt_Clown: I honestly don't buy into the fear mongering around this. Not because I'm "pro-chip" but how many "life altering technologies" have actually lived up to that in the last 15 to 20 years?

Electric/Hybrid Cars? Nothing but novelties at this point.
Google Glasses? Laughably dated pop-culture history at this point.
AI? Some potential there but still no where near the "Life altering" stage.
Automatic cars? Some progress but nowhere near enough to even be feasible for another 10 years minimum. Facial recognition? Well... COVID kinda threw a wrench into that, plus the various false positive/racist biases that were starting to plague it.
Ability-enhancing armor? I think it still exists but very far from prevalent.

I mean hell, I STILL know people who rely on a fax machine and don't even have an email... I get that they are an extreme exception but a lot of older people struggle with and even refuse to grow with the times. They are the ones still pulling the strings as we've all seen so, no I do not fear microchipping anymore than I do "smart" appliances.


I don't think the chips will be implanted in a person's body as much as they will be implanted in their employee badge.

That badge will track biometrics and location and such. Surprised it hasn't been done by Amazon already.

Hmmm....I CALL DIBS!
 
2020-09-19 5:25:25 PM  

Nullav: Pfft. Most employers do their damndest to avoid all the benefits they can. You think Amazon's going to pay to augment their workforce to make them more efficient at locating things in their warehouses, or give them robo-legs or exosuits to sidestep joint damage from the workload, even if BCIs weren't still in Elon's moon-land of a mind?

fark no, same as always, automate where doable, and work fully fleshy meatbags into the ground when that's the cheaper option.


That has always been the case, right? Always use tools and technologies if it's cheaper than raw human handiwork. I used software above as an illustration.

Here's another illustration:

Prior to Gutenberg, all written documents were hand written by scribes (monks and others in various religious orders). The Chinese actually invented the press, but because they didn't have an alphabet, it would have required making separate character blocks for each word, and there wasn't a simple way to sort them. The alphabet allowed one to make hundreds of "a's" and "A's" and "b's" and "B's" and so forth, put them in alphabetical order for easy sorting and allowed for a reasonably simple printing process. The result was that the monks were put out of work, but what it did was create thousands, and then millions of actual creators, people who wrote books, stories, music, plays. So get rid of the meat-bags once their utility is no longer recognized. In return, you'll get far more.

The "market value" of human scribes, copying previously written documents is great mainly for the historical value. There were, of course, some scientific and literary value to what those scribes copied. But there were very little, if any, actual creativity in what they wrote. Their creative value was as good as an Epson copier/printer. That is to say, zero.

But, once unshackled from the binds to being just a printer, they became writers and brought for their experiences and history and creativity and gave the world enormous value. Mark Twain was a printer as a kid. He took those "a's" and "b's" and slapped them into a rack and used them to print books and news. Once freed from that drudgery job (although, he claimed he learned a lot about writing from having to essentially copy other writers' writing style when placing the letter blocks in the racks), he became a literary icon.

Free to create gave us people like JK Rowling whose imaginations brought her billions in real tangible value. Of course, for every JK Rowling or every Mark Twain, there are thousands upon thousands of writers whose literary output is unintelligible or unreadable. But yet, they still contribute to the world's creative output (if only as a standard for how low one could go), and that creative output has huge market value.
 
2020-09-19 5:32:43 PM  

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Damn it, now I'm going to have that theme music in my head the rest of the night.
/ Seen all too much Six Million Dollar Man lately
// Lapped that, Bionic Woman, Charlie's Angels and Emergency! at least twice on TV while working at home with the Mrs.
/// Still better than Friends
 
2020-09-19 5:35:09 PM  

GodComplex: Mad_Radhu: GodComplex: I see no mention of sexbot. Can't have a workforce of androids without sexbots leading the way.
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That's the future we need.

"My name is Kara."
 
2020-09-19 5:36:02 PM  
It's not if, but when automation is coming for certain jobs. My goal is to retire before it comes for my job.
 
2020-09-19 5:43:02 PM  

Capt_Clown: I honestly don't buy into the fear mongering around this. Not because I'm "pro-chip" but how many "life altering technologies" have actually lived up to that in the last 15 to 20 years?

Electric/Hybrid Cars? Nothing but novelties at this point.
Google Glasses? Laughably dated pop-culture history at this point.
AI? Some potential there but still no where near the "Life altering" stage.
Automatic cars? Some progress but nowhere near enough to even be feasible for another 10 years minimum. Facial recognition? Well... COVID kinda threw a wrench into that, plus the various false positive/racist biases that were starting to plague it.
Ability-enhancing armor? I think it still exists but very far from prevalent.

I mean hell, I STILL know people who rely on a fax machine and don't even have an email... I get that they are an extreme exception but a lot of older people struggle with and even refuse to grow with the times. They are the ones still pulling the strings as we've all seen so, no I do not fear microchipping anymore than I do "smart" appliances.


Your car was was made by several dozen robots and less than 10 people. It used to take several dozen people.
Steel planets that once took 400 people to operate now take 4.
You've driven by trucks on the highway with no one in the driver's seat. You didn't even realize it, because their driving doesn't look any different, other than never swerving around from exhaustion. In 10 years, that will be nearly all of them.
When's the last time you opened a physical encyclopedia?
You do the work of 20 secretaries from the 60s every time you open your office software.The failures get pointed at and laughed at. The successes become so routine that they're simply part of life. Implants and augments on the level of what we would consider a true cyborg may be a long way off, but automation absolutely is going to eliminate about half of the world's jobs, and it's going to do it it less than 30 years. Society needs to be planning for this NOW.
 
2020-09-19 5:47:47 PM  
Imagine how people must have felt when we started using animals to farm!

"These animals are stealing our jobs!!!"

This was back when we had like five jobs.
 
2020-09-19 6:19:57 PM  

Kuta: Universal Basic Income NOW.


The last three months of burning cities shows why that will never happen again.
Even the democrats stopped voting for stimulus. Too many idle hands doing the devils work.

/you'll get ten times as many private prisons and work camps instead.
 
2020-09-19 6:51:48 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: Imagine how people must have felt when we started using animals to farm!

"These animals are stealing our jobs!!!"

This was back when we had like five jobs.


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2020-09-19 7:45:25 PM  
The ruling class wants robots, not free labor. We used to call them slaves, but someone got touchy about that.
 
2020-09-19 8:53:42 PM  

Metaluna Mutant: I may have contacts, glasses, a heart valve, hearing aid, artificial leg, pacemaker, cochlear implant, and deep brain stimulation, but still think cyborgs are pure science fiction.


I was going to point that out. We already have cyborgs, but up to this point it has been focused on repair not enhancement. My body is beginning to fall apart due to decades of abuse. Give me the full street ninja. I'm ready.
 
2020-09-19 9:03:40 PM  

Nullav: Pfft. Most employers do their damndest to avoid all the benefits they can. You think Amazon's going to pay to augment their workforce to make them more efficient at locating things in their warehouses, or give them robo-legs or exosuits to sidestep joint damage from the workload, even if BCIs weren't still in Elon's moon-land of a mind?


Oh hell no.  They'll offer prime spots to people who paid for their own augmentation.  Maybe even require it for some positions.  Like the Imperial Lobot (omy) above.  You want to be controller for this company, you need to have the augments.  You have them, you get recruited.  You don't, you get encouraged to save up and buy them if you want that promotion or to work in that position.
 
2020-09-19 9:12:12 PM  

Capt_Clown: I honestly don't buy into the fear mongering around this. Not because I'm "pro-chip" but how many "life altering technologies" have actually lived up to that in the last 15 to 20 years?

Electric/Hybrid Cars? Nothing but novelties at this point.
Google Glasses? Laughably dated pop-culture history at this point.
AI? Some potential there but still no where near the "Life altering" stage.
Automatic cars? Some progress but nowhere near enough to even be feasible for another 10 years minimum. Facial recognition? Well... COVID kinda threw a wrench into that, plus the various false positive/racist biases that were starting to plague it.
Ability-enhancing armor? I think it still exists but very far from prevalent.

I mean hell, I STILL know people who rely on a fax machine and don't even have an email... I get that they are an extreme exception but a lot of older people struggle with and even refuse to grow with the times. They are the ones still pulling the strings as we've all seen so, no I do not fear microchipping anymore than I do "smart" appliances.


Actually, ability enhancing armor is completely ready to go. DARPA has several demonstration videos. Who knows what they are keeping out of the public eye. Unfortunately, they all have the same problem. They all require a giant power line connected to a grid. Basically, they need portable reactors, like a Space Marine backpack.

As far as I can tell, the three biggest bottlenecks for sci-fi tech are: 1: power. 2: the assumption that everyone has access to amazing internet access at all times. 3: the insistence of form over function. Why are phones so damn skinny with inadequate battery life? Form. Make them 1/16" thicker, use all space for battery. Ta da. Everyone puts their phone in a case, so size is apparently not critical to most users.
 
2020-09-19 9:18:26 PM  

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I've trained for this.


So did I:
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2020-09-19 9:35:30 PM  

Satampra Zeiros: RTOGUY: [Fark user image image 220x301]

I've trained for this.

So did I:
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Damn. It's been a while. Base wars? (Robot baseball)
 
2020-09-19 10:04:15 PM  

baron von doodle: Damn. It's been a while. Base wars? (Robot baseball)


Syndicate.
Megacorps running covert* ops for world domination.

....how remarkably prescient of them.

*because nothing says clandestine like a bunch of cyborgs running around with flamethrowers hijacking hovercars and blastin' stuff
 
2020-09-19 10:49:23 PM  
Which is why I didn't going into physical labor
And even now doing data science, which requires some intuitive sense and interpretation.

Computers will come to rule the redundant
And the powers that be, won't care if people don't get paid.

Do something a computer can't do...well.
Even art...
 
2020-09-20 12:26:25 AM  

Glitchwerks: Might I sugest agin, a skul-gun for my head.
Yesterday in Batery Park, some scum we all know
pushes smack for NSF gets jumpy and draws. I take
2 .22's, 1 in flesh, 1 in augs, befor I can get out
that dam asalt gun.

If I could kil just by thought, it would be beter.
Is it my job to be a human target-practis backstop?

Gunther Hermann


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2020-09-20 12:55:11 AM  
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2020-09-20 10:00:46 AM  

baron von doodle: Why are phones so damn skinny with inadequate battery life? Form. Make them 1/16" thicker, use all space for battery. Ta da. Everyone puts their phone in a case, so size is apparently not critical to most users.


This has an answer, and it is a stupid one.

What people want in use is not what they want on the buying line.

When someone is sitting $ in hand in the store, the 1mm thinner phone gets bought to two standard deviations out.

/Ditto for glossy screens
//Ditto for that stupid no button trackpad
///Ditto for the perception (not the reality) of bigger screen by thinner bezel
 
2020-09-20 10:23:18 AM  
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