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2020-09-19 6:49:10 AM  
To be fair, some of us also use it to see how ugly our exes got.
 
2020-09-19 8:15:12 AM  
America can't blame the mirror for showing us we're ugly.
 
2020-09-19 8:51:00 AM  

aimtastic: America can't blame the mirror for showing us we're ugly.


And thread over. And HOTY Subz.
 
2020-09-19 8:59:16 AM  
I use it to stay in touch with 5 people I haven't seen in 20 years.

Well I used to. Deleted that shiat a few months ago and my mental health is 4x better. And now I call or email those 5 old friends. Win-Win
 
2020-09-19 9:02:06 AM  

aimtastic: America can't blame the mirror for showing us we're ugly.


Can we blame the mirror salesman that unilaterally changed the terms 235 times since we bought the mirror, then implemented the mirror as an eavesdropping device and sold what they learned to any old rando?

/'we' used figuratively
//never got into it
///and no I claim no prescience or special insight into what it was going to become, I just didn't want dipshiats I used to have to deal with getting in touch
////There's a reason I stopped talking to those assholes as soon as I reasonably could, thanks
 
2020-09-19 9:04:59 AM  
Facebook, not even once.

/not going there was one of the wisest choices I ever made
 
2020-09-19 9:06:04 AM  
Facebook should not be shut down, it should be held civilly liable.   For example:  Someone is posting something that is defamatory.  Facebook is notified, and provided evidence, that this person is posting stuff that is defamatory.  Facebook takes no action, allows the post to remain, and allows the person who posted to keep their FB account.   In that case FB should be sued for defamation.
 
2020-09-19 9:09:39 AM  

Fissile: Facebook should not be shut down, it should be held civilly liable.   For example:  Someone is posting something that is defamatory.  Facebook is notified, and provided evidence, that this person is posting stuff that is defamatory.  Facebook takes no action, allows the post to remain, and allows the person who posted to keep their FB account.   In that case FB should be sued for defamation.


Yeah, that approach is working so well with the copyright police.
 
2020-09-19 9:10:10 AM  
I barely used Facebook then dumped it back in 2012 and am happier for it.

And the shiat that's gone down since then is mad. From Cambridge Analytica to the mortal wounding of decent journalism it's really been bad for the world.

Two simple points. If it's a free online service you're being provided, then you're the product (and that's why I don't adblock on Fark). And if you'd told me in 1995 that just 15 years later (and moreso a decade after that) that folks would carry devices in their pockets which could put them in touch with most of the world's knowledge almost instantly, I'd have thought that would be great for democracy because voters would be so informed and have so much access to ideas. Basically, Apple, Facebook and Google have guaranteed the opposite would (and has) be the outcome.
 
2020-09-19 9:11:18 AM  

Fissile: Facebook should not be shut down, it should be held civilly liable.   For example:  Someone is posting something that is defamatory.  Facebook is notified, and provided evidence, that this person is posting stuff that is defamatory.  Facebook takes no action, allows the post to remain, and allows the person who posted to keep their FB account.   In that case FB should be sued for defamation.


Zuckerberg would be ok with that, the fine he'd have to pay would be a pittance compared to what Facebook brings in. Civil penalties don't work for large corporations, it's factored in as the cost of doing business.

Long jail sentences and breaking up the company or nothing.
 
2020-09-19 9:13:24 AM  
Yes, yes we can blame facebook for all the things in TFA, and many more. Anyone that believes FB is any kind of mirror likely believes Magicians are proof of wizards. FB is a tool and tools can always be used for corrupt purposes, likely in n dimensions again as lightly accounted in TFA.  Probably not the best analogy I could offer, but... FB is well on the way to skynet or at least big brother. Managed selfishly and algorithmically Not by any means in the interest of peace love and understanding. Nothing funny about that.
 
2020-09-19 9:14:11 AM  
It's not like Zuck can't afford to hire an army of fact checkers to clean up all the toxic waste on his platform.  So the simplest conclusion is that he has no problem with it being used for evil.
 
2020-09-19 9:20:15 AM  
 I got curious about all the carrying on, so I reactivated my account to take a look. It's a ghost town, at least among my friend group.
 
2020-09-19 9:27:10 AM  
And, ironically and or obviously perhaps, the same algorithm based approach to popularizing and targeting should reasonably be expected to be inverted to automate protecting the information ecosystem from being manipulated.  It would definitely feel like an arms race, but quite within precedent, like search engine positioning, and all other manner of gaming cheats.  If they're still part of the software the owners benefit from them or they're incompetently managed. Yes, you might get your little serotonin bump satisfaction, but the machine is corrupt. In FB's case, it is manifestly and recursively corrupting human reason. See religion, conspiracy theories, MLM, disinformation, FUD...
 
2020-09-19 9:29:00 AM  

flypusher713: It's not like Zuck can't afford to hire an army of fact checkers to clean up all the toxic waste on his platform.  So the simplest conclusion is that he has no problem with it being used for evil.


You don't understand, though... If he did that, Republicans might whine about bias until he adds Breitbart and six dozen random Freepers to the fact checking team.
 
2020-09-19 9:30:19 AM  

The Reverend Sam Hill: Fissile: Facebook should not be shut down, it should be held civilly liable.   For example:  Someone is posting something that is defamatory.  Facebook is notified, and provided evidence, that this person is posting stuff that is defamatory.  Facebook takes no action, allows the post to remain, and allows the person who posted to keep their FB account.   In that case FB should be sued for defamation.

Yeah, that approach is working so well with the copyright police.


Well its not, because safe harbour provisions keep the visible/tangible hosting elements of copyrighted content standing without repercussion.  Fissile here wants to remove that protection from Facebook, something that I think it needs, but not sure there's a valid enough legal reason to do so other then "Just look at how evil these assholes are and all the damage they've been doing around the world."  But sadly, america's law system is not based on morals, but 'legality'.
 
2020-09-19 9:32:53 AM  
I was on a small handful of private retro computing/electronics groups & private groups for a specific brand of insulin pump.  Over the last few months, I've seen a significant decline in activity & most of the conversations, questions, programs, etc. being moved over to Discord.

Fine with me.

/Discord.  Like IRC, but on steroids
//still use IRC
///still run a BBS
 
2020-09-19 9:35:57 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Can we blame the mirror salesman that unilaterally changed the terms 235 times since we bought the mirror, then implemented the mirror as an eavesdropping device and sold what they learned to any old rando?


Well, we do. Figuratively. But we, figuratively, might want to stop using the farking mirror. Or at least shrieking "How can they" about the salesmen.

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2020-09-19 9:38:01 AM  
Damn. After all of the privacy violations, I stopped using Facebook more than a decade ago. All it was was passive-aggressive posturing, photos of people's shiny new purchases, and bitter arguments. Obviously I never gave Facebook or anyone else my phone number, though I expect that some of my friends may have stupidly clicked "add my contacts" and it got sucked up at that point.

People literally pay companies to try to protect against data mining and identity theft, and then they give all that info to Facebook for free?

Regardless, I haven't ever used it as a source of news, as that would be insane.

// As would be watching The Apprentice, as it starred a mobbed up money laundering racist. I was truly surprised when I realized how many stupid voters were out there.
 
2020-09-19 9:42:26 AM  

BumpInTheNight: The Reverend Sam Hill: Fissile: Facebook should not be shut down, it should be held civilly liable.   For example:  Someone is posting something that is defamatory.  Facebook is notified, and provided evidence, that this person is posting stuff that is defamatory.  Facebook takes no action, allows the post to remain, and allows the person who posted to keep their FB account.   In that case FB should be sued for defamation.

Yeah, that approach is working so well with the copyright police.

Well its not, because safe harbour provisions keep the visible/tangible hosting elements of copyrighted content standing without repercussion.  Fissile here wants to remove that protection from Facebook, something that I think it needs, but not sure there's a valid enough legal reason to do so other then "Just look at how evil these assholes are and all the damage they've been doing around the world."  But sadly, america's law system is not based on morals, but 'legality'.


I don't think this executive order has been tested, but Trump allowed people to sue social media platforms for being meanies:
https://www.npr.org/2020/05/28/863932​7​58/stung-by-twitter-trump-signs-execut​ive-order-to-weaken-social-media-compa​nies
 
2020-09-19 9:53:50 AM  
I only use it for a couple of groups I'm in and to wish people I don't interact with anymore happy birthdays.

One group is my towns info group which has descended into a mosh pit of cat pictures and nonsensical liberal rankings by the admin who is some google douche who thinks we're all hickseeds because we don't want homeless people living all around us (yes this is in SF)
 
2020-09-19 9:57:31 AM  

Xanlexian: I was on a small handful of private retro computing/electronics groups & private groups for a specific brand of insulin pump.  Over the last few months, I've seen a significant decline in activity & most of the conversations, questions, programs, etc. being moved over to Discord.

Fine with me.

/Discord.  Like IRC, but on steroids
//still use IRC
///still run a BBS


Good thing there are no Nazis on Discord.
 
2020-09-19 9:57:43 AM  
Small organizations, with no expertise and no money for the Brad Parscale types of  web designers, have migrated to Facebook.

NO ONE HAS COME UP WITH A BETTER PLATFORM.

Yet.
 
2020-09-19 10:00:38 AM  
I steered clear of Facef*ck almost religiously, at least until I found something interesting last year.
CSB: A group nefarious individuals registered an account in my name using an email address I use here. What they didn't seem to realize was that by doing so I could log in and change my password and contact info, thus allowing me to take over the account.
Long story short, I now have a mostly blank placeholder account and most of my "friends" are sketchy Nigerian blokes that were added before I did anything.
 
2020-09-19 10:04:09 AM  

gas giant: I steered clear of Facef*ck almost religiously, at least until I found something interesting last year.
CSB: A group nefarious individuals registered an account in my name using an email address I use here. What they didn't seem to realize was that by doing so I could log in and change my password and contact info, thus allowing me to take over the account.
Long story short, I now have a mostly blank placeholder account and most of my "friends" are sketchy Nigerian blokes that were added before I did anything.


Your "friends" are still better people than the Q-nutters.
 
2020-09-19 10:12:11 AM  

flypusher713: Your "friends" are still better people than the Q-nutters.


Some of them probably pose as Q freaks on various chans if someone tosses them sawbuck or two.
 
2020-09-19 10:12:28 AM  

eviljimbo: I use it to stay in touch with 5 people I haven't seen in 20 years.

Well I used to. Deleted that shiat a few months ago and my mental health is 4x better. And now I call or email those 5 old friends. Win-Win


Same here.  Deleted it I think late 2019 or early 2020.  It wasn't really damaging my mental health though.  I blocked anybody that posted dumb shiat.  I have interesting friends that have very different hobbies and careers than mine and I actually liked reading their articles.  And the rest, I completely didn't mind seeing pictures of their kids or their trips or whatever.  But again, I curated that shiat.  I blocked anybody who just whined or posted dumb shiat constantly.

The reason I got out is because I didn't want to be a pawn in anybody's game anymore.

It was surprisingly easy to get used to not having it.  Maybe three or four days.  Now I just try to find an excuse to email people for no reason to stay in touch.
 
2020-09-19 10:13:06 AM  
Deleted my Facebook account last weekend.
I highly recommend it.
 
2020-09-19 10:13:29 AM  

slobberbone: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Can we blame the mirror salesman that unilaterally changed the terms 235 times since we bought the mirror, then implemented the mirror as an eavesdropping device and sold what they learned to any old rando?

Well, we do. Figuratively. But we, figuratively, might want to stop using the farking mirror. Or at least shrieking "How can they" about the salesmen.

[Fark user image 488x190]


And when the salesperson does all they can to conceal the changes, and continuously denies there's any such spying going on?   Why sure, it's all the simps fault, fark 'em?  That's why we have consumer protection laws for most things.
 
2020-09-19 10:15:34 AM  
facebook is only for the weak, the stupid and the insecure.
 
2020-09-19 10:17:04 AM  

mofa: Damn. After all of the privacy violations, I stopped using Facebook more than a decade ago. All it was was passive-aggressive posturing, photos of people's shiny new purchases, and bitter arguments. Obviously I never gave Facebook or anyone else my phone number, though I expect that some of my friends may have stupidly clicked "add my contacts" and it got sucked up at that point.

People literally pay companies to try to protect against data mining and identity theft, and then they give all that info to Facebook for free?

Regardless, I haven't ever used it as a source of news, as that would be insane.

// As would be watching The Apprentice, as it starred a mobbed up money laundering racist. I was truly surprised when I realized how many stupid voters were out there.


I can't believe anyone who's read Orwell thinks having a smartphone with apps which leak so much data about where you've been and who you've contacted is a good idea. But obviously millions and millions do, I'm in a tiny minority.
 
2020-09-19 10:17:09 AM  

BitwiseShift: Small organizations, with no expertise and no money for the Brad Parscale types of  web designers, have migrated to Facebook.

NO ONE HAS COME UP WITH A BETTER PLATFORM.

Yet.


What's wrong with WordPress?  You can do anything on it you want and it's frankly easier to use than Facebook
 
2020-09-19 10:24:17 AM  
Not only do I not have a Facebook account, I'm still puzzled as to why anyone would even want one at all.
 
2020-09-19 10:27:00 AM  
Facebook Has Been a Disaster for the World
How much longer are we going to allow its platform to foment hatred and undermine democracy?


That sounds like a drama queen posting on Facebook.  Next, announce that you're leaving Facebook.
 
2020-09-19 10:27:38 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: slobberbone: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Can we blame the mirror salesman that unilaterally changed the terms 235 times since we bought the mirror, then implemented the mirror as an eavesdropping device and sold what they learned to any old rando?

Well, we do. Figuratively. But we, figuratively, might want to stop using the farking mirror. Or at least shrieking "How can they" about the salesmen.

[Fark user image 488x190]

And when the salesperson does all they can to conceal the changes, and continuously denies there's any such spying going on?   Why sure, it's all the simps fault, fark 'em?  That's why we have consumer protection laws for most things.


If you don't understand that if the service is free they are selling you, I don't know what to tell you. But you better magic marker "Look both ways before crossing the street" on both hands.

As a practical matter, we have shiatty consumer protection laws and they are getting shiattier. We have to fend for ourselves until we can remember to vote. And maybe even a week after that. But you keep shaking your internet fist.
 
2020-09-19 10:30:33 AM  

recombobulator: Xanlexian: I was on a small handful of private retro computing/electronics groups & private groups for a specific brand of insulin pump.  Over the last few months, I've seen a significant decline in activity & most of the conversations, questions, programs, etc. being moved over to Discord.

Fine with me.

/Discord.  Like IRC, but on steroids
//still use IRC
///still run a BBS

Good thing there are no Nazis on Discord.


Not in any of the groups I frequent, there're certainly not.
 
2020-09-19 10:35:16 AM  
I just treat every account on FB that I do not know IRL like it's fake. Haven't run into problems yet.
 
2020-09-19 10:40:11 AM  

Glockenspiel Hero: BitwiseShift: Small organizations, with no expertise and no money for the Brad Parscale types of  web designers, have migrated to Facebook.

NO ONE HAS COME UP WITH A BETTER PLATFORM.

Yet.

What's wrong with WordPress?  You can do anything on it you want and it's frankly easier to use than Facebook


Explain that to the Weavers Guild, that little chapel or shul down the road, the local book club, garden club, bridge club, garden club ... their children and grandchildren know facebook and can bridge the gap when the 80-year-old "system administrator" dies until the new spry 64 year-old newcomer can take over with the help of other children and grandchildren.

People have heard of Facebook, but WordPress could be some kind of Qanon/Antifa/Hipster hacker plot or software for bank account raiding pedos.    Really.    Until the base of 20 years olds, who would not join these clubs but would have grandparents who do, comes up with a standard, it will be Facebook.

IBM spent lot of money developing all sorts of storage protocols.  They still use the COBOL file structures.  Same thing with dBase.

So the first standard is always hard to break.  How long did HD take to replace NTSC as the TV standard?  It may even take a CPU GPU design change.

It really makes Facebook very dangerous.
 
2020-09-19 10:54:34 AM  
Got rid of my account in 2017 after the Cambridge analytica scandal and after seeing how much of a cesspool the site has become.

The wife still uses it frequently. Last year she saw a news story about someone being shot on a Indian reserve while doing maintenance on phone lines. Guy worked for the same company as I do so it got home a bit. I was angry and a little upset. When driving to get gas I thought "this came from Facebook, let's double check".

After some googling I found out that yes this did happen, but back in 2010. I'm thinking whoever posted that story as current wanted to inflame racial tensions.

Thanks to that we have a new house rule: anything that comes from Facebook is assumed to be fake and a lie. The story must be fact checked and confirmed by legit news sites. Even if she does the validation I still check for myself. It's worked to keep misinformation or if our household. I really wish she would just get rid of her account though.
 
2020-09-19 11:08:07 AM  

BitwiseShift: It really makes Facebook very dangerous.


And iPhone. And Zoom. And Coke. And Kleenex.
 
2020-09-19 11:22:30 AM  

DarwiOdrade: I just treat every account on FB that I do not know IRL like it's fake. Haven't run into problems yet.


Same for all accounts on the internet, DarwiObot.
 
2020-09-19 11:33:30 AM  

Fissile: Facebook should not be shut down, it should be held civilly liable.   For example:  Someone is posting something that is defamatory.  Facebook is notified, and provided evidence, that this person is posting stuff that is defamatory.  Facebook takes no action, allows the post to remain, and allows the person who posted to keep their FB account.   In that case FB should be sued for defamation.


This should have been done years ago.  If they tried it now, the conservatives would think they were being censored and silenced.

Just flagging posts as "possibly being fake" has caused that.

Conservative do NOT want to be fact checked.  And when shiat like this has been allowed to go on for so long, many of them don't know what is true any more.  So any amount of fact checking is met with fierce resistance.

They should have put a stop to thing before it got this far out of control.  It is the very definition of closing the barn doors after the horses all ran away.
 
2020-09-19 11:44:55 AM  

slobberbone: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: slobberbone: Some Junkie Cosmonaut: Can we blame the mirror salesman that unilaterally changed the terms 235 times since we bought the mirror, then implemented the mirror as an eavesdropping device and sold what they learned to any old rando?

Well, we do. Figuratively. But we, figuratively, might want to stop using the farking mirror. Or at least shrieking "How can they" about the salesmen.

[Fark user image 488x190]

And when the salesperson does all they can to conceal the changes, and continuously denies there's any such spying going on?   Why sure, it's all the simps fault, fark 'em?  That's why we have consumer protection laws for most things.

If you don't understand that if the service is free they are selling you, I don't know what to tell you. But you better magic marker "Look both ways before crossing the street" on both hands.

As a practical matter, we have shiatty consumer protection laws and they are getting shiattier. We have to fend for ourselves until we can remember to vote. And maybe even a week after that. But you keep shaking your internet fist.


I see you just want to wank about how much smarter you are than the rest of the idiots - I'll leave ya to get on with that.
 
2020-09-19 11:57:21 AM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: I see you just want to wank about how much smarter you are than the rest of the idiots - I'll leave ya to get on with that.


Nope. If I was I'd join the "I don't even have a TV before I deleted my account crowd." I have both.

But I refuse to let people believe they are powerless if they are not. They may not be as all-powerful as they believe others are (the others aren't), but they aren't powerless either.

Cracker sucks, btw
 
2020-09-19 12:14:28 PM  

durbnpoisn: Fissile: Facebook should not be shut down, it should be held civilly liable.   For example:  Someone is posting something that is defamatory.  Facebook is notified, and provided evidence, that this person is posting stuff that is defamatory.  Facebook takes no action, allows the post to remain, and allows the person who posted to keep their FB account.   In that case FB should be sued for defamation.

This should have been done years ago.  If they tried it now, the conservatives would think they were being censored and silenced.

Just flagging posts as "possibly being fake" has caused that.

Conservative do NOT want to be fact checked.  And when shiat like this has been allowed to go on for so long, many of them don't know what is true any more.  So any amount of fact checking is met with fierce resistance.

They should have put a stop to thing before it got this far out of control.  It is the very definition of closing the barn doors after the horses all ran away.


My brother brought up Breonna Taylor the other day and said she would still be alive if her boyfriend hadn't shot at the police with an illegally possessed gun. He had a full blown meltdown when I told him that her boyfriend was licensed to own the gun and all charges against him were dropped. Went as far as challenging me to a fight.
 
2020-09-19 12:19:05 PM  
It's a disaster because there is no user accountability.
Ergo, fake or anonymous accounts can say things that properly identifiiable people would never say .

Enforce a backend ID verification for "Verified" Facebook accounts that get special status.
Accounts that don't have verified status get very limited features, virtually no message forwarding allowed, low number of friends allowed.

A verified person can only have one personal account, but be connected to other business or club accounts that show the owner username. User name doesn't have to show their real name.

Until something like this happens, there will always be paid or voluntary troublemakers either trying to sow lies, or just being idiots because they can't be outed.
 
2020-09-19 12:24:16 PM  

Harry Wagstaff: durbnpoisn: Fissile: Facebook should not be shut down, it should be held civilly liable.   For example:  Someone is posting something that is defamatory.  Facebook is notified, and provided evidence, that this person is posting stuff that is defamatory.  Facebook takes no action, allows the post to remain, and allows the person who posted to keep their FB account.   In that case FB should be sued for defamation.

This should have been done years ago.  If they tried it now, the conservatives would think they were being censored and silenced.

Just flagging posts as "possibly being fake" has caused that.

Conservative do NOT want to be fact checked.  And when shiat like this has been allowed to go on for so long, many of them don't know what is true any more.  So any amount of fact checking is met with fierce resistance.

They should have put a stop to thing before it got this far out of control.  It is the very definition of closing the barn doors after the horses all ran away.

My brother brought up Breonna Taylor the other day and said she would still be alive if her boyfriend hadn't shot at the police with an illegally possessed gun. He had a full blown meltdown when I told him that her boyfriend was licensed to own the gun and all charges against him were dropped. Went as far as challenging me to a fight.


Reminds me of the Central Park 5.  Even after it was shown conclusively that they were innocent, Trump and his minions maintained that they need to remain locked up and possibly executed.
 
2020-09-19 12:35:31 PM  

Harry Wagstaff: durbnpoisn: Fissile: Facebook should not be shut down, it should be held civilly liable.   For example:  Someone is posting something that is defamatory.  Facebook is notified, and provided evidence, that this person is posting stuff that is defamatory.  Facebook takes no action, allows the post to remain, and allows the person who posted to keep their FB account.   In that case FB should be sued for defamation.

This should have been done years ago.  If they tried it now, the conservatives would think they were being censored and silenced.

Just flagging posts as "possibly being fake" has caused that.

Conservative do NOT want to be fact checked.  And when shiat like this has been allowed to go on for so long, many of them don't know what is true any more.  So any amount of fact checking is met with fierce resistance.

They should have put a stop to thing before it got this far out of control.  It is the very definition of closing the barn doors after the horses all ran away.

My brother brought up Breonna Taylor the other day and said she would still be alive if her boyfriend hadn't shot at the police with an illegally possessed gun. He had a full blown meltdown when I told him that her boyfriend was licensed to own the gun and all charges against him were dropped. Went as far as challenging me to a fight.


Yeah, but he was Black, right?  No way he could legally own a gun.  Notice that the NRA is speaking up for his rights just as much as they spoke up for Phillando Castile's.
 
2020-09-19 12:36:35 PM  

Some Junkie Cosmonaut: aimtastic: America can't blame the mirror for showing us we're ugly.
Can we blame the mirror salesman that unilaterally changed the terms 235 times since we bought the mirror, then implemented the mirror as an eavesdropping device and sold what they learned to any old rando?
/'we' used figuratively
//never got into it
///and no I claim no prescience or special insight into what it was going to become, I just didn't want dipshiats I used to have to deal with getting in touch
////There's a reason I stopped talking to those assholes as soon as I reasonably could, thanks


Yes. I knew about Facebook years ago. I"ve never had an account. We can also blame the laziness of the general populace for buying it hook, line, and sinker, and then deciding that they couldn't live without it, no matter what they hear about it. We can also blame the intellectual laziness of a world of people who will buy into any old thing that somebody says they're "giving" them, because their egos are so inflated from living in a consumer heaven that they never even look at the price tag. But it was FREE! I want it! I want all the things!!

Yeah, you idiots, it was all free. Just like all those natural resources that we puked all over and threw away. Just like our piles of cheap plastic crap that we bought for a dollar, then threw them away too. Just like our "emancipation" into all of us being working drones, and our children should become influencers too, theres just so much out there to take advantage of, and nothing to distract us from it, except more shopping. Weve reached peak consumer, and nothing else exists. So much freedom. So much stuff. And it was all free. You all believed it.

Idiots.
 
2020-09-19 1:05:26 PM  
If you're not using carrier pigeon to keep in touch with people you enjoy interacting with, you're a sucker.
 
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