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(BBC-US)   The fine line between art and porn. AKA you'll know it when you see it (artsy paintings not safe for work, obviously)   (bbc.com) divider line
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2020-09-19 6:17:45 AM  
Lot of porn looks more like a casino than art these days.
It seems I'm not made for 21st century porn.
 
2020-09-19 6:21:34 AM  
It's OK if there's an urn, or a plinth. Or a cherub.
 
2020-09-19 6:23:43 AM  
Well, I'll be home from work before this goes green.  I'll be back.
 
2020-09-19 7:15:31 AM  
There is no line.

I would post that glorious picture of a naked anthropomorphic vixen flossing herself with the American flag and suggestively licking the pole as Donald Trump's tiny hands poke in from just out of frame, saying "now dats some good patriotism, right der." But I don't wanna get suspended from Fark again.
 
2020-09-19 7:22:22 AM  

MattytheMouse: There is no line.

I would post that glorious picture of a naked anthropomorphic vixen flossing herself with the American flag and suggestively licking the pole as Donald Trump's tiny hands poke in from just out of frame, saying "now dats some good patriotism, right der." But I don't wanna get suspended from Fark again.


Ah, what the heck. I'm going to go ahead and post it anyway.
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There, I censored it in a way that should be acceptable by Fark's ToS.
 
2020-09-19 8:04:52 AM  
I rolled my eyes so much reading the article that I have a headache now.
 
2020-09-19 8:11:44 AM  

swahnhennessy: I rolled my eyes so much reading the article that I have a headache now.


I found article extremely patriotic, It was asking serious questions.
 
2020-09-19 8:13:54 AM  
I read somewhere that a lot of what we call art today was, at one point, someone's wank material.

Makes you wonder if things such as Playboy will get the same treatment.
 
2020-09-19 8:18:01 AM  
"But of course, the male gaze exists in the life-drawing class,"


Yeah and everyone acts really coy and "gazes" while they draw or photograph the model rather than really look at him or her. Rather than try to capture what they really want to capture. What really needs to be captured.
I don't do that. I make my portraits by shooting genitals from an inch away. Sometimes less and sometimes more. But I am never shy. Not even a little bit. Human bodies are what I am documenting. I'm not interested in pretending I'm not.
 
2020-09-19 8:28:52 AM  
In the past, censorship of explicit images was often motivated by conservative and religious values and fears of moral corruption. By contrast, feminists who challenge objectifying sexual imagery want equal rights for women, and they fear the spread of objectifying images is detrimental to that cause.

So ... horseshoe theory; both extremes want to ban any depiction of female nudity - just for different reasons.
 
2020-09-19 8:30:20 AM  
The article sounds kinda prudish..
 
2020-09-19 8:32:34 AM  
When we talk about the fine arts we're also talking about privilege. That larger-than-life canvas covered in finely ground durable pigments, was painted by someone who had the freedom to spend years developing those skills versus common labour. The works were commissioned and purchased by patrons who had the freedom and support to attain excess wealth, and were of images that would please (such a pale word) those patrons.

Art galleries are a historical record that reveals cultural inequalities of the time both by what is present and by what is absent. We can note by their absence the people who were unable to create or purchase art at any significant volume over centuries; a task for the gallery visitor is to consider why.
 
2020-09-19 8:36:36 AM  
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2020-09-19 8:38:43 AM  
Is anyone in the image naked?
Yes?
It's porn.

It's not hard.

/I'd they aren't naked
 
2020-09-19 8:40:33 AM  

Resident Muslim: Is anyone in the image naked?
Yes?
It's porn.

It's not hard.

/I'd they aren't naked


/If.
//darn autocorrect
///autocorrect should really mess with people openly by having a filter for "autocorrect". Or maybe @Drew, you want to do that :D I suggest "these little imps"
 
2020-09-19 8:41:06 AM  

MillionDollarMo: Lot of porn looks more like a casino than art these days.
It seems I'm not made for 21st century porn.


Always going to be a problem is you hit on 17.
 
2020-09-19 8:56:53 AM  
I remember hearing somewhere that the line between Art and Porn was drawn when those in power decided the common man couldn't have proper access to fine art any more.
Also consider that people weren't less sophisticated to "understand" nudes, just that there were more important things to be concerned about, that didn't include calling what comes naturally as "Evil." We are always naked, and we don't need people who think they know better telling us we shouldn't be.
 
2020-09-19 9:00:11 AM  

Resident Muslim: Is anyone in the image naked?
Yes?
It's porn.

It's not hard.

/I'd they aren't naked


Is it hard?
No?

It's not porn
 
2020-09-19 9:01:42 AM  
Sensuality. Lust. Sexual pleasure. All these things are part of being human. If you can't find beauty in the human body, that I feel sorry for you.
 
2020-09-19 9:12:55 AM  

RanHakubi: I read somewhere that a lot of what we call art today was, at one point, someone's wank material.

Makes you wonder if things such as Playboy will get the same treatment.


Playboy centerfolds, perhaps.  Hustler's Beaver Hunt, never.
 
2020-09-19 9:17:45 AM  
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2020-09-19 9:17:53 AM  
Someone much wiser than I once said the difference between art and porn is lighting. But porn's lighting has been improving.
 
2020-09-19 9:20:27 AM  

mmojo: "But of course, the male gaze exists in the life-drawing class,"


Yeah and everyone acts really coy and "gazes" while they draw or photograph the model rather than really look at him or her. Rather than try to capture what they really want to capture. What really needs to be captured.
I don't do that. I make my portraits by shooting genitals from an inch away. Sometimes less and sometimes more. But I am never shy. Not even a little bit. Human bodies are what I am documenting. I'm not interested in pretending I'm not.


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2020-09-19 9:26:21 AM  
"Feminist upset that men enjoy looking at nude women. Film at 11."
 
2020-09-19 9:28:54 AM  
It's porn when our social justice dominatrices tell us it's porn, you worm!
 
2020-09-19 9:33:40 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: "Feminist upset that men enjoy looking at nude women. Film at 11."


Feminism is not a villain here. Stupid people are.
 
2020-09-19 9:35:18 AM  
Why is it to post a comment on porn sites you have to click "I Am Not Robot".

Why are so many robots watching porn?

/Farking 2020!
 
2020-09-19 9:35:28 AM  
We can old hope that the world's most sensitive scientists eventually crack the code on time travel, so Woke Squads of elite busy bodies can travel back and fix every real and perceived injustice in human history.
 
2020-09-19 9:38:34 AM  
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Today:  Art

500 BC:  Spank bank material.
 
2020-09-19 9:40:21 AM  

Riotboy: Why is it to post a comment on porn sites you have to click "I Am Not Robot".

Why are so many robots watching porn?

/Farking 2020!


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2020-09-19 9:51:23 AM  
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2020-09-19 10:05:31 AM  

Commander Lysdexic: In the past, censorship of explicit images was often motivated by conservative and religious values and fears of moral corruption. By contrast, feminists who challenge objectifying sexual imagery want equal rights for women, and they fear the spread of objectifying images is detrimental to that cause.

So ... horseshoe theory; both extremes want to ban any depiction of female nudity - just for different reasons.


Someone can be feminist and still be sexually repressed. The two aren't mutually exclusive. How people react to art with nudity, and how they participate in a figure drawing class are good indicators of where someone is.

A good self-check question is: "Would Pat Robertson agree with this?" If yes, you need to seriously think about your position.
 
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2020-09-19 10:09:03 AM  

Mister Buttons: [Fark user image image 461x682]

Today:  Art

500 BC:  Spank bank material.


Buttplug if you're brave enough.
 
2020-09-19 10:10:51 AM  

Fano: [Fark user image image 225x224]


I've been there. While it isn't right out in the middle of things, it does have a noticeable spot in the museum. You definitely don't tend to miss it on a walk-through
 
2020-09-19 10:15:12 AM  

Commander Lysdexic: In the past, censorship of explicit images was often motivated by conservative and religious values and fears of moral corruption. By contrast, feminists who challenge objectifying sexual imagery want equal rights for women, and they fear the spread of objectifying images is detrimental to that cause.

So ... horseshoe theory; both extremes want to ban any depiction of female nudity - just for different reasons.


Are you familiar with H.L. Mencken's definition of "puritanism"?
 
2020-09-19 10:15:22 AM  
I figured it was somewhere between "It's easier to draw nudes than people with clothes on", "As an artist I like banging the models and I'm not gay", "people will pay more money for nudes than clothed art".

I'm not sure why only 4% of featured artists in that museum are female.  The museums I've gone to in Savannah fed by SCAD seemed to be a decent mix, though I wasn't counting.  On the political spectrum, art seems to be pretty left leaning.
 
2020-09-19 10:19:39 AM  
Madtv - Inkblots
Youtube eNFNTVyZCgY
 
2020-09-19 10:20:01 AM  

Fano: [Fark user image 225x224]


Not his style. Two years ago Bert and Ernie put six B+W Herb Ritz photos on the walls of their apartment. (photos of muppets instead of humans) I cannot believe nobody has noticed yet.
 
2020-09-19 10:22:21 AM  

TheGreatGazoo: "It's easier to draw nudes than people with clothes on"


No.

"As an artist I like banging the models and I'm not gay"

Yes
 
2020-09-19 10:23:47 AM  
FROINLAVEN, FOR 10 MINUTES
Youtube wQnFGQXMDsg
 
2020-09-19 10:28:10 AM  
I don't know much about art but I know what I like.
 
2020-09-19 10:28:28 AM  

mmojo: TheGreatGazoo: "It's easier to draw nudes than people with clothes on"

No.

"As an artist I like banging the models and I'm not gay"

Yes


Really? I figured the folds and shadows would be tricky.  But then my "artistry" involves acrylic and wine.
 
2020-09-19 10:32:10 AM  
... there isn't a line for anything prior to one that someone arbitrarily drew in the mid-1900s to cater to regressive morons and their idiotic politics.  And even after that, said line isn't so much an actual line as a set of goal-posts strapped to the top of a farking supersonic jet piloted by those reactionary morons that's constantly flying in completely arbitrary directions.

// Pretty much every set of sexual mores set up by regressive assholes works like this, but it should be noted that all of the different versions are actually mutually incompatible.  Like, what someone from the regressive movement in Victorian times would describe using their equally arbitrary whimsical definition of pornography and what a modern bible-thumper would use the word to mean would have them both accusing each other of heresy within like thirty seconds, they use the word to describe completely functionally divergent things.  So the inevitable "but the word 'pornography' is older than 1950" derpy-ass response someone is already typing to this post can be shoved into the appropriate orifice, thanks.
 
2020-09-19 10:40:12 AM  
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...a government grant!
 
2020-09-19 10:40:28 AM  
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2020-09-19 10:46:30 AM  
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I dunno, it just seemed right for this thread.
 
2020-09-19 10:47:58 AM  
It's only an issue if one of  them is named Stanley or Georgia
 
2020-09-19 10:51:30 AM  
Art is when the lens is smeared with vaseline. Well, a sheet of glass placed in front of the lens. There is no point ruining a good lens, even for Art's sake. For Paul, I'd do some seriously shady stuff though.
 
2020-09-19 11:13:11 AM  
It is intensely difficult to Define yet very easy for a reasonably intelligent person to tell the difference between pornography and artistic depiction.

One is meant to convey higher emotions and elicit a soothing response. The other is for wanking.
 
2020-09-19 11:13:52 AM  
We get it, you're ugly.
Author also missed what paintings were for
 
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