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(NBC News)   And here we go: McConnell intends to fill RBG's empty seat before it even has time to get cold   (nbcnews.com) divider line
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2020-09-19 2:31:59 AM  
81 votes:
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2020-09-19 6:02:03 AM  
54 votes:
They're going to nominate Merrick Garland?
 
2020-09-19 2:02:22 AM  
48 votes:
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2020-09-19 7:06:06 AM  
39 votes:
15 minutes into the confirmation hearing:
Dem Senator: "Ms Pirro, are you drunk right now?"
Pirro: "Thisch ish juscht a partishun attempt to show dishcord in the judsh-judicial prochesh."
 
2020-09-19 7:12:18 AM  
38 votes:

Alphax: danvon: MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???

I saw Murkowsky say that, who was the other one? As far as I know, the VP would be a tie breaker.

Another thread said Mitt Romney.. and a couple others.  Perhaps even Lindsey Graham.. which sounds like a long shot, but he may be desperate enough to keep his 'job'.


As stupid as this may sound, there is an outside chance that this might be too egregious even for Collins.
 
2020-09-19 7:51:04 AM  
25 votes:
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2020-09-19 7:31:03 AM  
21 votes:
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2020-09-19 8:16:30 AM  
19 votes:

Steampunk Gallagher: GrizzlyPouch: Shame on republicans for doing things legally the way it's described in the constitution.

We should do a bunch of illegal things or change all the rules, Like adding a bunch of new justices.  Or murdering all Republicans!

Merrick Garland would like a word.


The guy was nominated, That's all the president gets to do.  It's very simple.

Obama could've easily sat down with Republicans, came up with a list and nominated somebody they'd actually confirm.

He chose to play politics with the pick, Republicans reciprocated, and he lost.
 
2020-09-19 6:58:52 AM  
19 votes:

EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.


You don't understand, Hillary didn't inspire me!
 
2020-09-19 6:57:05 AM  
19 votes:
The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.
 
2020-09-19 7:33:26 AM  
15 votes:

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?


Can we stop saying this as if the guy was voted into office, and instead be petty and biatchy over the fact that our electoral system works like a goddamn game of Quidditch?
 
2020-09-19 7:30:31 AM  
14 votes:

MattytheMouse: Man. I'm upset that the thread where we discussed throwing soup at McConnell didn't go green.


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2020-09-19 8:13:12 AM  
13 votes:
Sigh, no they won't.  It's phenomenally stupid to do it before the election, when the lame duck session is available.  Republicans are evil, NOT stupid.
 
2020-09-19 8:10:06 AM  
13 votes:
Shame on republicans for doing things legally the way it's described in the constitution.

We should do a bunch of illegal things or change all the rules, Like adding a bunch of new justices.  Or murdering all Republicans!
 
2020-09-19 6:57:49 AM  
12 votes:

hubiestubert: "Oh, that thing before? That was an Obama rule. It doesn't count for us."


"See, that was an election year.  This is a 'reelection' year.  Totally different!"
 
2020-09-19 7:26:23 AM  
11 votes:
I hear this guy isn't doing much of anything at the moment.

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2020-09-19 6:09:12 AM  
11 votes:

Alphax: [Fark user image image 850x443]


Barr cannot be on the SCOTUS if convicted and in prison.

/I think positively most times.
 
2020-09-19 8:22:29 AM  
9 votes:
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2020-09-19 8:20:30 AM  
9 votes:

willwall: GrizzlyPouch: Shame on republicans for doing things legally the way it's described in the constitution.

We should do a bunch of illegal things or change all the rules, Like adding a bunch of new justices.  Or murdering all Republicans!

Here's a deal. You can have your sc vote but all the Republicans who were derelict in their constitutional duty for the gorsuch nomination need to step down and leave the Senate. Sound fair?


The only person derelict was Obama.  He nominates, senates decides whether to confirm.  It's been like this going on 300 yrs now.

He could've easily nominated somebody with an actual chance of being confirmed.
 
2020-09-19 8:18:55 AM  
9 votes:
 
2020-09-19 7:27:10 AM  
9 votes:
Man. I'm upset that the thread where we discussed throwing soup at McConnell didn't go green.
 
2020-09-19 9:10:28 AM  
8 votes:
Republicans are so much better at politics than Democrats are.

You can crow about which side is more virtuous than the other, but in the end it doesn't matter. America belongs to the competent, and Republicans are more competent then Democrats.
 
2020-09-19 8:22:08 AM  
8 votes:

Uranus: oh for the unsuffering love of f*ck!

I'm not even American and I valued RBG extremely highly, and admired her approach to justice and gender issues.

To see the Trumpist GOP piss on that legacy makes me want to vomit. There is not a shred of decency to be found there, only hypocrisy and self-interest.


You should have participated in the election like other foreign powers did. You have no one to blame but yourself!
 
2020-09-19 7:21:56 AM  
7 votes:

NobleHam: mrwknd: Merrick Garland or no one.

Fark that. Merrick Garland was a sensible moderate, an olive branch to the Republicans saying "we're not going to replace Scalia with a total liberal." They didn't take the olive branch then, they shouldn't get it now. If Ginsburg gets replaced with a boring-ass swing-vote moderate, it will be a disgrace.


If Ginsburg ends up replaced with a boring-ass moderate instead of a fascist conservative it will be a stunning victory
 
2020-09-18 10:57:23 PM  
7 votes:
You can't use a news flash tag, subby, for something that everyone knew 5 years ago
 
2020-09-18 9:55:11 PM  
7 votes:
So how's that protest vote working out for you?
 
2020-09-19 9:54:14 AM  
6 votes:
'History supports Republicans filling the seat.

Doing so would not be in any way inconsistent with Senate Republicans' holding open the seat vacated by Justice Antonin Scalia in 2016. The reason is simple, and was explained by Mitch McConnell at the time. Historically, throughout American history, when their party controls the Senate, presidents get to fill Supreme Court vacancies at any time - even in a presidential election year, even in a lame-duck session after the election, even after defeat. Historically, when the opposite party controls the Senate, the Senate gets to block Supreme Court nominees sent up in a presidential election year, and hold the seat open for the winner. Both of those precedents are settled by experience as old as the republic.

Republicans should not create a brand-new precedent to deviate from them.'


- Dan McLaughlin, National Review, August 7, 2020
 
2020-09-19 9:44:31 AM  
6 votes:
RBG is solely to blame for this.

She could have left under Obama a decade ago and he could have picked her replacement easily. But she was so sure Clinton would prevail that she hung on despite being at the edge of death because she wanted a successor who was handpicked by the first female Pres. Now control over your gynecological apparati is going to vanish.

I expected Turtle to jump on this opportunity first chance.

Now we get to see more liberal handwringing as we get the partiest bro who ever partied confirmed within 6 weeks, or we get some underqualified young chippie just to throw a bone to feminism sort of like how Old Bush and Biden saluted Civil rights by replacing Marshall with a much inferior (but darker skinned!) Thomas.
 
2020-09-19 9:09:32 AM  
6 votes:
(checks watch)

Huh, less than 24 hours before he went full-on bag of cocks. Impressive.
 
2020-09-19 8:38:02 AM  
6 votes:

Commander Lysdexic: GrizzlyPouch: Maynard G. Muskievote: Just a reminder that only about 750,000 goobers elect this farker. Tyranny of the minority, indeed.

He doesn't get to make decisions by himself.  Man you guys suck at understanding like....everything.


Hurr hurr 750k ppl in Kentucky get to decide who makes all the laws.

You are one dumb motherfarker.


This exactly what's wrong with the Democratic Party nowadays.

You guys say shiat like "you are dumb" and think that means something.  Like it's an actual reasonable retort To a political opponent.  (It's the same thing as screaming RACIST all the time)

Monkeys flinging poop
 
2020-09-19 8:31:57 AM  
6 votes:
MattytheMouse:

So you're saying Obama doesn't get to just nominate anybody he wants?

He has to pick a candidate Republicans don't like and won't vote for?  Which section of the constitution is that in?
 
2020-09-19 8:29:47 AM  
6 votes:

EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.


As the Left is fond of saying, the "adults" will make this decision kids. Have a seat and be quiet.
 
2020-09-19 7:57:59 AM  
6 votes:
just from a pure "business" sense why would you not want to fill the position. if a store manager dies you don't wait months to fill the position, CEO passes away you don't wait months to fill the position, pretty much all jobs you fill the position


Now you don't make a public statement the same day as that persons death but behind the scenes you do start planning. 

that being said, ugh this is going to be ugly
 
2020-09-19 7:34:16 AM  
6 votes:

Purple_Urkle: MattytheMouse: Man. I'm upset that the thread where we discussed throwing soup at McConnell didn't go green.

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2020-09-19 7:18:33 AM  
6 votes:
Stephen Miller is getting the nomination

Or Ivanka.  Or Jared.

Book it. Done.
 
2020-09-19 7:15:05 AM  
6 votes:

Alphax: danvon: MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???

I saw Murkowsky say that, who was the other one? As far as I know, the VP would be a tie breaker.

Another thread said Mitt Romney.. and a couple others.  Perhaps even Lindsey Graham.. which sounds like a long shot, but he may be desperate enough to keep his 'job'.


Gardner and Collins would probably defect out of self-preservation, too.

After the election, though? All bets are off. The Democrats would be wise to kidnap three or four Republican senators, stash them someplace safe and disconnected from the outside world, and then stay in their states until January 3rd.
 
2020-09-19 7:10:36 AM  
6 votes:
Looks like States 51 and 52 are a go, along with +3 to the court.
 
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2020-09-19 3:55:35 AM  
6 votes:

EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.


Expand the size of the SC and pack the court.
 
2020-09-19 11:03:48 AM  
5 votes:

FarkBucket18: All of you could have just moved to Kentucky any time in the last 40 years and voted him out, but nahhhh, that's much too difficult. Better to just biatch and moan online about how unfair he is.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Hunh. So there were 17 FarkBuckets before you. Way to be born on 3rd.
 
2020-09-19 11:01:15 AM  
5 votes:
Pernicious Q. Varmint:

Exactly.  And there was nothing stopping Obama from withdrawing Garland and doing just that.

And this is what I'm getting at.  Republicans use political maneuvering that's within the boundaries of the law.

And then Dems either pout, or they call republicans a bunch of names (ists and phobes and deplorables).  Demonize and dehumanize you're opponent if u can't beat them legally.

And republicans are fascists. (See.  More name calling)
 
2020-09-19 10:50:22 AM  
5 votes:
Don't worry everyone. Check out this poll.

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The seat is safe.
 
2020-09-19 8:45:33 AM  
5 votes:
Vote them out.

Romney, Collins, Murkowski, Graham and Grassley are on record saying they won't vote on a SCOTUS opening before the election.  Hold them to that or make them pay for it at the ballot box.
 
2020-09-19 8:20:22 AM  
5 votes:
But surely he wont go back on his word about not nominating people for the SCOTUS because of tradition or something during and election year. Why couldn't it have been Mitch? Is that why the right hate abortion they need all those unwanted babies to feast on to extend their lives?
 
2020-09-19 8:13:34 AM  
5 votes:

Professor Duck: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Ginsburg's seat will be filled by Friday.

Announce pick Monday
Have "hearings" Wednesday
Vote to finish hearings Thursday
Vote to confirm Friday, with all The voting yes because of course they will.


If this all plays out like that, the Senate will easily turn blue. Voters will make the GOP pay for their hypocrisy.

And the court will be expanded. Quickly.
 
2020-09-19 7:36:46 AM  
5 votes:

qorkfiend: MattytheMouse: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Can we stop saying this as if the guy was voted into office, and instead be petty and biatchy over the fact that our electoral system works like a goddamn game of Quidditch?

Were we unaware of the system last time? No? Then we don't get to biatch about the rules now.


Uh, yeah, we should biatch about the rules. Now more than ever, in fact. 'Cause they're bad rules and I've had two presidents in my lifetime win by losing. This last time, by a pretty significant margin!
 
2020-09-19 4:28:23 AM  
5 votes:
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2020-09-19 3:18:10 AM  
5 votes:
They would be smart to wait until after the election. There may be a few R senators that would be hesitant to rubber stamp some Trump lunatic with an election in six weeks.

After the election it won't matter. Either they won and are in for another six years, or they lost and they're out and they'll be happy to burn the place down on the way out.
 
2020-09-19 1:37:49 AM  
5 votes:
No shiat. Motherfarkers need to vote their asses off and remove as many Republicans as possible in November. Make the margins too damn big to fudge.

Then, write and pass a new Judiciary Act to increase the entire Judicial Branch and add justices on every single farking level to neutralize the ratfarking that McConnell has engineered.
 
2020-09-19 12:53:16 PM  
4 votes:

Chevello: "The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president," Schumer tweeted, quoting McConnell, who made the same statement during Barack Obama's presidency after Justice Antonin Scalia died in 2016.

Democrats need to do more of this.


It remains to be seen if democrats have the balls to point out the things McConnell has said and done. But it's as Joe Biden says: desperate times call for desperate compromises.

At least, I think he said that
 
2020-09-19 11:07:38 AM  
4 votes:
Personally I think Obama should be hog tied and forced into the vacant seat.  I have no doubt that he doesn't want it, but at this point I do not think he should be given a choice.
 
2020-09-19 10:52:53 AM  
4 votes:

Murkanen: GrizzlyPouch:

Obama could've easily sat down with Republicans, came up with a list and nominated somebody they'd actually confirm.

He did.

They told him they'd be willing to confirm Merrick Garland because he was still a conservative jurist, if not quite as ignorant and blindly partisan as Scalia, so that's who he nominated.

Then they refused to give Garland a vote.


This was brilliant strategy on the part of McConnell, btw.  They forced Obama to pick a generic center-right white guy with absolutely no dedicated constituency on the left, and then sank the nomination.  If Obama had picked someone who inspired key democratic voters the obstructionism would have been major news, with protests, street theater, social media campaigns, the whole ladida. That in turn would have helped drive turnout for Clinton.  A woman or a member of a minority group (or both) would have been obstructed just as hard, but people would have noticed and some of them would have cared enough to get out and protest, vote, volunteer, donate, etc.  The driving narrative of the 2016 campaign would have been republican obstruction, a far better message than "I'll be like Obama but a bit more centrist."

McConnell may be a festering pustule on the ass of humanity but he knows politics. His handling of the Green New Deal was similarly skillful - he popped the bubble of media interest in under a week.
 
2020-09-19 10:37:35 AM  
4 votes:
buttercat:

And yet if McConnell nominates somebody he hasn't broken any rules.

There are plenty of options here for Dems.  This is what I'd do:

If trump nominates somebody, the Dems should just not show up.  Same thing with the 4 liberal SCOTUS justices.  Just stop showing up for work until November.

The sheer spectacle would be political gold for them.  that's a better option than:

-whine
-stack the court(never happen)
-widespread murder of republicans
-or all out revolution

Which seem to be the front runners. Just don't show up (that's how u protest)

That, or start robbing Walmarts I guess. That'll show em.
 
2020-09-19 10:11:46 AM  
4 votes:

Uranus: Champion of the Sun: Anything but take divisive action

the GOP has that covered. I'm sure you mean decisive...

Anyway, what form do you suggest this action takes?


1. Blame Jill Stein Voters
2. Put an overlay pic of RBG's scarf on my Facebook profile
3. Tell anyone who listens that no, we can't do that (regardless of what THAT is)
4. Lose again
 
2020-09-19 9:49:14 AM  
4 votes:

Mugato: Champion of the Sun: Mugato: Champion of the Sun: Mugato: Champion of the Sun: Impeach trump for literally everything. Bog down the media and the senate.

It's right there you stupid farks. The guy who gets to replace RBG murdered 200,000 americans. Use impeachment as a weapon. Jesus christ we're gonna try to shame Republicans as a tactic again. Jesus christ. Goddamn farking morons.

First of all there isn't enough time for another impeachment. Second, what has changed that you think it's going to work this time? He'd be exonerated again and he'll get to play the victim a second time.

Delaying a confirmation and failing to convict is a win. Jesus christ. How difficult is it for you guys to understand that?

Not giving the gop another seat is the point.

There's nothing that says the president can't still nominate a judge while being impeached.

READ

Linking to farking quora?

Jesus christ. Always an excuse. Always a reason not to act.

Good luck shaming the republicans. Keep on keeping on.

You were wrong. You can admit it.


Your answer was from quora. Random guy on the street. How is baby fromed?

You think the 23 gop senators up for election want to push through another kavanaugh while trumps crimes are laid bare?

But you guys aren't gonna do that. You have your excuse. "Sorry, can't do anything"
 
2020-09-19 8:28:14 AM  
4 votes:

Maynard G. Muskievote: Just a reminder that only about 750,000 goobers elect this farker. Tyranny of the minority, indeed.


He doesn't get to make decisions by himself.  Man you guys suck at understanding like....everything.


Hurr hurr 750k ppl in Kentucky get to decide who makes all the laws.
 
2020-09-19 8:12:12 AM  
4 votes:

Tyrone Slothrop: Biohazard Banana Suit: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Who are you talking to, exactly? Jill Stein voters?

Democrats still can't handle the fact that Hillary ran a terrible campaign, and was generally a terrible choice for President. So they blame anything else they can think of, including the candidate who got less votes than "write in".


Democrats didn't have a choice, Hillary picked herself and the voters were stuck with her or Orange Hitler.

The rest is history.
 
2020-09-19 8:09:18 AM  
4 votes:
The only way McConnell won't get the votes is if Trump nominates Ted Cruz. So, root for that?
 
2020-09-19 7:29:24 AM  
4 votes:

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?


Who are you talking to, exactly? Jill Stein voters?
 
2020-09-19 7:24:28 AM  
4 votes:
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It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.
 
2020-09-19 7:16:23 AM  
4 votes:

mrwknd: Merrick Garland or no one.


You got Trump to agree to nominate him, McConnell to agree to put him on the schedule, and enough Republican votes for confirmation? Impressive
 
2020-09-19 7:13:15 AM  
4 votes:
Merrick Garland or no one.
 
2020-09-19 7:08:26 AM  
4 votes:

danvon: MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???

I saw Murkowsky say that, who was the other one? As far as I know, the VP would be a tie breaker.


Another thread said Mitt Romney.. and a couple others.  Perhaps even Lindsey Graham.. which sounds like a long shot, but he may be desperate enough to keep his 'job'.
 
2020-09-19 6:59:50 AM  
4 votes:

danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.


Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???
 
2020-09-19 6:37:24 AM  
4 votes:
Yesterday was for being upset. Today is  for action and going forward.  Same as it ever was.
 
2020-09-19 3:39:07 AM  
4 votes:
Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.
 
2020-09-19 2:43:21 AM  
4 votes:
Wouldn't holding on to the pick after the election make more sense?  If they fill the spot now, that would energize the left and really do nothing for turning out their own voters.  If they wait, that might even convince some of these Lincoln Project and Never Trumpers to turn out and vote for him.  Worst case scenario for them and the Dems sweep the House, Senate, and White House, they can still ram their pick I'm calling Brett Kavanaugh 2:Rapier Doosh Bro through during the lame duck session.

I don't think they will, though, as Yertle and Fat Turd have the guile and cunning of a wet sponge.
 
2020-09-19 11:43:51 AM  
3 votes:
The Senate can't take up any business as long as an Impeachment from the House is sitting on Mitch's desk.  So Monday morning, the House should rush through an impeachment - lord knows there are any number of reasons for one.  Sure, Mitch would rush through an acquittal, but that would have bought at least a week, and by that time he'd be sitting on another impeachment.  Lather, rinse, repeat.

Totally legal and constitutional and a sure way to piss off everybody, but it would work.  Except Mitch would just ignore the impeachments, illegally, and go about whatever evil he has in mind.
 
2020-09-19 11:27:12 AM  
3 votes:
Let's just hope whoever is nominated likes beer enough to deserve a lifetime appointment to the bench and we'll all be good.
 
2020-09-19 10:25:39 AM  
3 votes:
All of you could have just moved to Kentucky any time in the last 40 years and voted him out, but nahhhh, that's much too difficult. Better to just biatch and moan online about how unfair he is.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
2020-09-19 10:19:52 AM  
3 votes:

buttercat: We're in new territory here and I just don't think the normal approach is going to help or work. The left has to do something extraordinary or we're toast.


We're using the Republicans' words against them.  Shaming them on their hypocrisy always works.
 
2020-09-19 10:09:30 AM  
3 votes:

Mugato: Champion of the Sun: Mugato: Champion of the Sun: Losers cry and excuse

Like making an excuse that you weren't wrong because you didn't like my source that showed you were wrong?

LOL, Mr. Democrat hectoring over the rules (from quora, lol) instead of acting.

Joe Biden can piss his pants on tv. It's legal. But it wouldn't be a good strategy. Just like it wouldn't be a good strategy for the 23 gop senators up for election to have to push through another kavanaugh.

But keep debating the rules. Write a paper. Keep making excuses. Anything but take divisive action

You said that a President can't nominate a judge while being impeached. I showed you were wrong. And you're having a hissy fit. That's all.


Ok, strategically improbable not impossible.

Congrats, you kinda won a pedantic debate, kinda?

Your excuse is solidified.  Good job everyone, we got our excuse.  Our job as democrats is done.
 
2020-09-19 9:53:53 AM  
3 votes:

Farkonaut: Champion of the Sun: You think your guys' never ending excuses and cowardice

"You guys"

..so whats that make you?
Another lost conservative without a party?
Lets talk about who the cowards are in this scenario.

The ones sticking to their principles and ideals and not letting it turn us into 'them' or the idiots who allowed their party to be totally corrupted and now, instead of fixing it, they run away and complain that their alternative isn't authoritarian enough.

LOL you guys are farking pathetic.

This is no ones fault but GoP and the low-iq assholes that hump guns that love them.

fark all of them.


Cool. one 95 year old lady is all that was upholding the republic. But it ain't our fault.

Excuses excuses excuses. Nothing but excuses. Can't act. Can't help. Can't win.

America loves a winner and will not tolerate a loser. You guys centrists, moderates, establishment Democrats, whatever you wanna call yourselves, are complete farking losers.

The gop and their supporters are again getting absolutely everything they ever wanted. Your response? Tears and excuses. America will not tolerate a loser

Losers cry and excuse

Lots of tears and excuses. No plans I see.
 
2020-09-19 9:41:25 AM  
3 votes:

LurkLongAndProsper: DarkSoulNoHope: Farkin_Crazy: Professor Duck: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Ginsburg's seat will be filled by Friday.

Announce pick Monday
Have "hearings" Wednesday
Vote to finish hearings Thursday
Vote to confirm Friday, with all The voting yes because of course they will.

If this all plays out like that, the Senate will easily turn blue. Voters will make the GOP pay for their hypocrisy.

And the court will be expanded. Quickly.

This is why I don't like Conservative/Centrist Democrats like you, because you all are stupid and naive!

You think that because you nominated a woman in 2016, automatically you would have a win, no matter how much Hillary was perceived to be unlikable and ran a weak campaign. Now you're assuming that once the Republicans and Mitch McConnell act on their hypocrisy, which was predicted when they blocked Merrick Garland, you'll automatically have the Senate switched to the Democrats and be able to stack the Federal Courts with Biden appointees (having these thoughts when Biden isn't even elected yet)! Stop living in fantasyland and start actually working to win elections, stop assuming you'll automatically win as the "lesser evil"!

Don't lump everyone together. I think most of us know that you shiatheads are going to stay home again just like you did in 2016 and again in the primaries. There will be no senate flip, trump will win re-election, and his court picks will be cemented well enough they'll be there forever. Since you can't be counted on to vote, packing the courts would be a gigantic error as it's only a matter of time before republicans take over the government again and just fark us over worse. Congratulations, this must be a major win for progressivism.


It is a major win for progressivism, it proves that Centrist/Conservative Democrats running milquetoast candidates whom don't upset their wealthy donors allows fascism to take hold. Of course you blame progressives for "not voting" when twice there has been a conjoined effort to prevent progressives from winning candidates (especially Sanders), as well as Republicans suppressing the vote in historical Democratic areas (mainly cities) of Republican states, and then you use those constructive suppression to "prove" that progressives can't get out the vote. Also, you completely ignore the non-voter as a factor, which you can fix by making election day a state holiday in Democratic states so people can vote who had no ability before due to work schedule or other factors, as well as putting out political candidates who can convince people to vote for them with promoting good government ideas and policies!

Of course proving progressivism should have been pushed for instead of Conservative Democrats' "middle ground ideas, but settle for the Republican plan as a 'compromise' " is only a "I told you so". Still being naive and thinking you're going to win without effort, when the Republicans prove you otherwise each time, is stupid.
 
2020-09-19 8:54:26 AM  
3 votes:
I'd like to see Pelosi initiate impeachment proceedings in the house. Let that be resolved before considering a replacement for Justice Ginsberg.
 
2020-09-19 8:33:04 AM  
3 votes:
im sure glad rbg got to work until she was 87 and not retiring when she was 82

for all the out pouring of affection a cancer survivor gambled she was either gonna live to be 88 or clinton was going to win. her personal reasons for staying on the court have handed it to republican rule for the next 40 year s at least
 
2020-09-19 8:23:00 AM  
3 votes:

Tyrone Slothrop: EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.

Nothing, as long as you think "the law" is more important than defeating fascism.


And do something other than cry online from the safety of an apathy bubble? Who do you think we are?
 
2020-09-19 8:09:23 AM  
3 votes:

Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Kavanaugh
Nominated: 7/9/18
Confirmed: 10/6/18

So does that...

Does that mean you're agreeing with me that since it's 106 days until a new Congress & they delayed the Kavanaugh confirmation ny 90 days, if she had died a couple weeks later, they could have delayed it a similar amount of time?

Or does that mean you think they can delay it longer, like they did for Thomas, at 99 days, & that they'll be able to push that to 106 days?

Or... you're not suggesting that 90 days is less than 45 days, right?

I thought it might be comforting to know that even the most recent guy took almost 3 months to confirm. People keep saying McConnell will have this done within a week, but the process definitely takes way longer than that, unless there's some special legislative power he's hiding up his sleeve.


McConnell is bringing back the filibuster, and it's mutated into something new!
 
2020-09-19 8:04:19 AM  
3 votes:

NobleHam: mrwknd: Merrick Garland or no one.

Fark that. Merrick Garland was a sensible moderate, an olive branch to the Republicans saying "we're not going to replace Scalia with a total liberal." They didn't take the olive branch then, they shouldn't get it now. If Ginsburg gets replaced with a boring-ass swing-vote moderate, it will be a disgrace.


You, good Sir, are entirely correct.
 
2020-09-19 8:03:00 AM  
3 votes:

Naido: LordBeavis:

as Yertle and Fat Turd have the guile and cunning of a wet sponge.

I despise the son of a biatch, but if Mitch has the guile and cunning of a wet sponge, how can you possibly come up with a comparison point lowly enough for where Democrats rank in that regard?


Hillary Clinton!
 
2020-09-19 7:46:24 AM  
3 votes:

qorkfiend: MattytheMouse: qorkfiend: MattytheMouse: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Can we stop saying this as if the guy was voted into office, and instead be petty and biatchy over the fact that our electoral system works like a goddamn game of Quidditch?

Were we unaware of the system last time? No? Then we don't get to biatch about the rules now.

Uh, yeah, we should biatch about the rules. Now more than ever, in fact. 'Cause they're bad rules and I've had two presidents in my lifetime win by losing. This last time, by a pretty significant margin!

Great. And?

Was that possibility some sort of unknown? No, but the "protest voters" did their thing anyway and now we get to suffer the consequences? Cool.


Personally, I think it's more constructive to biatch about the system that allows somebody to win by losing by three million votes, than sniping at individuals that apparently didn't vote right, but that's just my opinion, I guess.
 
2020-09-19 7:35:36 AM  
3 votes:

danvon: As stupid as this may sound, there is an outside chance that this might be too egregious even for Collins.


She is going to REALLY furrow her brow and say she is beyond concerned, nay disgusted that she is today having to cast her vote to confirm Justice Cruz, and it really must never happen again.
 
2020-09-19 7:22:46 AM  
3 votes:

koder: It remains unclear whether Republicans would have the votes to make a new appointment before Nov. 3.

Oh they'll have the votes. The entire election hinges on prematurely declaring Trump the winner. They'll call all The Families in for every Favor.


They don't want to fill it before the election.
Trump's only hope is everyone who supports him turns out. The best way to turn out evangelicals is to have that open seat in jeopardy.

They can get the best of both worlds by waiting until the election. If they win they can say they were being honorable and letting the people choose. If they lose they can pass a judge through a lame duck session and have avoided a lot of the fallout during the campaign
 
2020-09-19 7:17:38 AM  
3 votes:

mrwknd: Merrick Garland or no one.


Fark that. Merrick Garland was a sensible moderate, an olive branch to the Republicans saying "we're not going to replace Scalia with a total liberal." They didn't take the olive branch then, they shouldn't get it now. If Ginsburg gets replaced with a boring-ass swing-vote moderate, it will be a disgrace.
 
2020-09-19 7:16:14 AM  
3 votes:
A Romney aide said that he wouldn't vote on a new SC justice. I hope that's correct.
 
2020-09-19 6:55:39 AM  
3 votes:
See:  Dems need to pack the Supreme Court thread.

The Presidency is favored for Biden, the Senate could go either way.

Give to Senate battleground states and we could see this:

2 states added (DC and Puerto Rico), so 4 more democratic senate seats.   Plus the GOP having another brutal election there in 2022 when they are defending more than twice as many seats.

And then move the number of SCOTUS justices to match the number of US circuit courts, which is 13.   That rationale has been used a couple of times in the past to change the number of justices.
 
2020-09-19 3:02:23 AM  
3 votes:
LordBeavis:

as Yertle and Fat Turd have the guile and cunning of a wet sponge.

I despise the son of a biatch, but if Mitch has the guile and cunning of a wet sponge, how can you possibly come up with a comparison point lowly enough for where Democrats rank in that regard?
 
2020-09-19 2:25:26 AM  
3 votes:
Obviously. Because nothing a republican ever says is in good faith or rooted to anything.

They simply want power and a trump dictatorship.

F*ck em.
 
2020-09-19 1:54:23 AM  
3 votes:
All they've been doing is rubber stamping Conservative Dupe judges onto benches across the country. Cocaine Mitch no doubt can just upgrade one of those to the nom. Fark him, fark Trump, fark the GOP and fark 2020.

/ shiatty year can't stop shiatting.
 
2020-09-19 1:01:14 AM  
3 votes:

Leishu: Did anybody actually expect him to not be a hypocrite about this? The dude has the moral fortitude of a wet noodle.


It's a reminder, as if we needed one, that everything conservatives do is for their own power and benefit.

And when they try to take a moral stand, they can be told to go fark themselves in no uncertain terms.


And when they biatch and moan and call you uncivil, you laugh at them, and then again tell them to go fark themselves.
 
2020-09-19 12:52:30 AM  
3 votes:
It remains unclear whether Republicans would have the votes to make a new appointment before Nov. 3.

Oh they'll have the votes. The entire election hinges on prematurely declaring Trump the winner. They'll call all The Families in for every Favor.
 
2020-09-18 10:13:02 PM  
3 votes:
'Murica.
 
2020-09-19 1:26:01 PM  
2 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: I hope they nominate the biggest anti-abortion/anti-woman/anti-gay/anti​-American asshole they can find.  Another Kavanaugh.  Rip open the national psyche right before the election.


This seems very possible, but they risk the resulting rage flipping the senate bigly no?
 
2020-09-19 12:26:42 PM  
2 votes:

Langdon_777: jso2897: suebhoney: We vote in every election. But beyond that, we are unable to help. 😪

Then you are doing all you can, and have no reason to feel otherwise.
The best revenge is being happy, and not letting the bastards grind you down.
Remember - we always win in the end. Over time, all the victories have ultimately gone to the good guys.
The only personal tragedy is that we don't always live to see justice in our time - so you need to look at the course of human progress and remind yourself that we always win in the end.

Are you sure that isn't just because the winners get to write the history books?


The pendulum will swing back the other way. Eventually. It is inevitable.

Because tyrants, being what they are, will savage the people until the people have had enough and they rise up to overthrow the tyrant. Wearied from their struggle, the people set things right and then rest. Eventually they grow complacent and the tyrant rises again. The cycle continues.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. We sometimes forget this.
 
2020-09-19 11:10:28 AM  
2 votes:

suebhoney: durbnpoisn: I wrote about this very thing in my blog, a few minutes ago.  I had to tone down my anger about this.  Because make no mistake, I am FURIOUS about!

And I am completely terrified that the absolute worst case scenario is about to unfold.

We will lose the court.  Trump will cheat.  They will side with him.
And our Democracy dies, just like that.

I hope to hell I'm wrong.  I really REALLY hope I'm wrong.

I was feeling dread about 6 weeks ago, and it lightened up about 2 weeks ago.

Now that feeling of dread is back and it's 100 fold worse than my initial feeling.

I honestly believe America is done and that sometime within the next 2 years (or less), my SSDI will be taken away, as well as my son's and mine SNAP benefits, and my son's Medicaid. We will be homeless before those 2 years are up & there won't be anyone who will help us, as all social safety nets will be dismantled. 

RBG passing is the absolute worst thing that could have happened right now.

I am scared beyond words.


Sorry about that.  That's horrifying.

Our only hope is that the SCOTUS does the right thing regardless of politics.
 
2020-09-19 11:05:56 AM  
2 votes:

BafflerMeal: FarkBucket18: All of you could have just moved to Kentucky any time in the last 40 years and voted him out, but nahhhh, that's much too difficult. Better to just biatch and moan online about how unfair he is.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hunh. So there were 17 FarkBuckets before you. Way to be born on 3rd.


I wonder if the other 17 were better trolls.
 
2020-09-19 10:57:52 AM  
2 votes:
So it is time for our pool boys to make a sacrifice and go to public toilets near republican offices, remembering to bring a camera.
 
2020-09-19 10:47:52 AM  
2 votes:
I am not just going to piss on McConnell's grave, I am going to take a dump, probably two.
 
2020-09-19 10:34:06 AM  
2 votes:
qorkfiend: chrismurphy:
No. Even better. It'll be woman under 50, who has the same belief system as a Michelle Bachmann but doesn't come off as bashiat, and the legal acumen of Scalia. She'll be on the bench for 40 years.

Any Coney Barrett
*Amy


Actually I was thinking of Ted Cruz.
 
2020-09-19 10:32:05 AM  
2 votes:

chrismurphy: We need to pass the buck onto our elected officials


We need to pass the buck onto our elected officials
 
2020-09-19 10:32:02 AM  
2 votes:

kyuzokai: kyuzokai: JimmyTheHutt: vpb: EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.

Expand the size of the SC and pack the court.

None of which is possible now.  There is no path that allows that to happen.
Biden can't win the election now, and McConnell will guarantee that.  He will have someone on that bench by next week.

This is my biggest fear. McConnell pulls every favor, makes every empty promise, all hinging on "if you just fall in one last time, with this SC appointment we can steal the election, and then we will be in a position to never lose power again". And it will probably work, and with that the Republic as we know it will be well and truly over.

postscript... we all might wanna start learning Chinese, since they'll be the global power in a few years (months?) if Mitch gets his SC appointment.


Mitch is way ahead of you. Mrs. McConnell was born in Taiwan and lived there until she was 8.

Interesting fun facts, Elaine Chao's mother was named "Ruth Mulan". As a child only eight years old, Ruth journeyed alone back to her town in China to reclaim the family's gold that had been hidden away on their land.

How many of you have done that? I'm presuming Ruth knew how to kill a Japanese soldier with a knife concealed in a teddy bear.

So now here we are.


The irony makes me want to kill myself.
 
2020-09-19 9:51:46 AM  
2 votes:

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?


If you had to beg, plead, insult, cajole or threaten people to vote for your candidate, maybe you should accept a few realities.
 
2020-09-19 9:32:24 AM  
2 votes:
Impeach trump for literally everything. Bog down the media and the senate.

It's right there you stupid farks. The guy who gets to replace RBG murdered 200,000 americans. Use impeachment as a weapon. Jesus christ we're gonna try to shame Republicans as a tactic again. Jesus christ. Goddamn farking morons.
 
2020-09-19 9:30:46 AM  
2 votes:
Cool, we got the playbook all sorted out
1. Blame non voters
2. Unsuccessfully try to shame Republicans into acting right

Cool. Can't imagine how this will play out
 
2020-09-19 9:28:42 AM  
2 votes:

Klyukva: RyogaM: Klyukva: RyogaM: Linux_Yes: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Dems need to delay just like the repugs did.

They can't, they are the in the minority.  The Repugs could do it in 2012 because they were the majority.


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Don't worry. There's always the judicial filibuster. Oh wait no there isn't, lol.

Heh, you think the Republicans were going to let the filibuster remain if the Democrats hadn't removed it first?  You're so adorable.

Man look at that projection. "Yeah sure we're the ones who actually triggered the so-called 'nuclear option', but Republicans would have done the same (even though they had the opportunity and didn't)." I'm also sure that right now in 2020 with a real possibility of losing both the senate and the presidency they'd be very eager to undermine their possible position as the minority party.

Well, the important thing here is to accept no blame and learn nothing going forward, like the people in these threads fantasizing about farking the goat further by packing the court.


I already said you are adorable. Do you want me to ruffle your hair, too? Consider it ruffled.
 
2020-09-19 9:24:27 AM  
2 votes:

RyogaM: Klyukva: RyogaM: Linux_Yes: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Dems need to delay just like the repugs did.

They can't, they are the in the minority.  The Repugs could do it in 2012 because they were the majority.


[Fark user image image 850x400]

Don't worry. There's always the judicial filibuster. Oh wait no there isn't, lol.

Heh, you think the Republicans were going to let the filibuster remain if the Democrats hadn't removed it first?  You're so adorable.


Man look at that projection. "Yeah sure we're the ones who actually triggered the so-called 'nuclear option', but Republicans would have done the same (even though they had the opportunity and didn't)." I'm also sure that right now in 2020 with a real possibility of losing both the senate and the presidency they'd be very eager to undermine their possible position as the minority party.

Well, the important thing here is to accept no blame and learn nothing going forward, like the people in these threads fantasizing about farking the goat further by packing the court.
 
2020-09-19 9:10:28 AM  
2 votes:

Farkin_Crazy: Professor Duck: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Ginsburg's seat will be filled by Friday.

Announce pick Monday
Have "hearings" Wednesday
Vote to finish hearings Thursday
Vote to confirm Friday, with all The voting yes because of course they will.

If this all plays out like that, the Senate will easily turn blue. Voters will make the GOP pay for their hypocrisy.

And the court will be expanded. Quickly.


This is why I don't like Conservative/Centrist Democrats like you, because you all are stupid and naive!

You think that because you nominated a woman in 2016, automatically you would have a win, no matter how much Hillary was perceived to be unlikable and ran a weak campaign. Now you're assuming that once the Republicans and Mitch McConnell act on their hypocrisy, which was predicted when they blocked Merrick Garland, you'll automatically have the Senate switched to the Democrats and be able to stack the Federal Courts with Biden appointees (having these thoughts when Biden isn't even elected yet)! Stop living in fantasyland and start actually working to win elections, stop assuming you'll automatically win as the "lesser evil"!
 
2020-09-19 8:43:38 AM  
2 votes:

koder: It remains unclear whether Republicans would have the votes to make a new appointment before Nov. 3.

Oh they'll have the votes. The entire election hinges on prematurely declaring Trump the winner. They'll call all The Families in for every Favor.


8 justices is plenty enough!
 
2020-09-19 8:41:54 AM  
2 votes:

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?


Dems need to delay just like the repugs did.
 
2020-09-19 8:41:12 AM  
2 votes:

Jaicu: Long list of Senators who promised to not act on SCOTUS vacancy until after election:

https://www.motherjones.com/2020-elect​ions/2020/09/a-long-list-of-gop-senato​rs-who-promised-not-to-confirm-a-supre​me-court-nominee-during-an-election-ye​ar/?fbclid=IwAR2OviZrLydFUtoTJh4ih6ZIU​tInJFAs3eumVv8N_yIeWOg00lDmzPoSA0A


Not sure, based on history, if MJ shame is gonna move them. We might wanna vote anyway.
 
2020-09-19 8:39:18 AM  
2 votes:

GrizzlyPouch: Maynard G. Muskievote: Just a reminder that only about 750,000 goobers elect this farker. Tyranny of the minority, indeed.

He doesn't get to make decisions by himself.  Man you guys suck at understanding like....everything.


Hurr hurr 750k ppl in Kentucky get to decide who makes all the laws.


What's the weather like up your own ass?
 
2020-09-19 8:34:21 AM  
2 votes:
...I see a lot of talk and whining in this thread.  I'm sure Republicans are pleased that's all we're capable of.
 
2020-09-19 8:28:35 AM  
2 votes:

GrizzlyPouch: willwall: GrizzlyPouch: Shame on republicans for doing things legally the way it's described in the constitution.

We should do a bunch of illegal things or change all the rules, Like adding a bunch of new justices.  Or murdering all Republicans!

Here's a deal. You can have your sc vote but all the Republicans who were derelict in their constitutional duty for the gorsuch nomination need to step down and leave the Senate. Sound fair?

The only person derelict was Obama.  He nominates, senates decides whether to confirm.  It's been like this going on 300 yrs now.

He could've easily nominated somebody with an actual chance of being confirmed.


I'm just curious: is your sexual fetish that feeling of regret when you sometimes feel late at night when you think back on embarrassing things you've said and done, too?
 
2020-09-19 8:27:37 AM  
2 votes:
Flip the Senate then impeach the motherfarker who was put on the bench.
 
2020-09-19 8:27:27 AM  
2 votes:

Jaicu: Long list of Senators who promised to not act on SCOTUS vacancy until after election:

https://www.motherjones.com/2020-elect​ions/2020/09/a-long-list-of-gop-senato​rs-who-promised-not-to-confirm-a-supre​me-court-nominee-during-an-election-ye​ar/?fbclid=IwAR2OviZrLydFUtoTJh4ih6ZIU​tInJFAs3eumVv8N_yIeWOg00lDmzPoSA0A


Beat those motherfarkers over the head with their own words.

Particularly the ones who are up this year.
 
2020-09-19 8:27:12 AM  
2 votes:

GrizzlyPouch: willwall: GrizzlyPouch: Shame on republicans for doing things legally the way it's described in the constitution.

We should do a bunch of illegal things or change all the rules, Like adding a bunch of new justices.  Or murdering all Republicans!

Here's a deal. You can have your sc vote but all the Republicans who were derelict in their constitutional duty for the gorsuch nomination need to step down and leave the Senate. Sound fair?

The only person derelict was Obama.  He nominates, senates decides whether to confirm.  It's been like this going on 300 yrs now.

He could've easily nominated somebody with an actual chance of being confirmed.


Well... at least you're willing to lie about it.  So you've got that going for you, which is nice.
 
2020-09-19 8:19:29 AM  
2 votes:

Farkin_Crazy: If this all plays out like that, the Senate will easily turn blue. Voters will make the GOP pay for their hypocrisy.

And the court will be expanded. Quickly.


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Alright...name the states where the voters will "make them pay" as opposed to cheering this as a win for "Amurcan values".

This is a flyover country senate year. We're farked.
 
2020-09-19 8:10:31 AM  
2 votes:

Biohazard Banana Suit: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Who are you talking to, exactly? Jill Stein voters?


Democrats still can't handle the fact that Hillary ran a terrible campaign, and was generally a terrible choice for President. So they blame anything else they can think of, including the candidate who got less votes than "write in".
 
2020-09-19 8:03:41 AM  
2 votes:

Lexx0001: There are single issue voters for Trump. He gets another anti abortion vote on the SCOTUS, they may feel that he has nothing more to offer them. They might just stay home.

On the other hand, some might be more energized to vote.

We'll know for sure in six weeks or so.


Today, I learned my primary care doctor is a single issue anti-abortion voter who thinks socialized medicine is bad for everyone.
 
2020-09-19 8:02:11 AM  
2 votes:

Gubbo: Leishu: Did anybody actually expect him to not be a hypocrite about this? The dude has the moral fortitude of a wet noodle.

It's a reminder, as if we needed one, that everything conservatives do is for their own power and benefit.

And when they try to take a moral stand, they can be told to go fark themselves in no uncertain terms.


And when they biatch and moan and call you uncivil, you laugh at them, and then again tell them to go fark themselves.


B...but Democrats can't tell them to fark themselves, that wouldn't be going high!
The Alt-Right Playbook: You Go High, We Go Low
Youtube MAbab8aP4_A
 
2020-09-19 7:49:37 AM  
2 votes:

vpb: EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.

Expand the size of the SC and pack the court.


None of which is possible now.  There is no path that allows that to happen.
Biden can't win the election now, and McConnell will guarantee that.  He will have someone on that bench by next week.
 
2020-09-19 7:43:57 AM  
2 votes:

NobleHam: mrwknd: Merrick Garland or no one.

Fark that. Merrick Garland was a sensible moderate, an olive branch to the Republicans saying "we're not going to replace Scalia with a total liberal." They didn't take the olive branch then, they shouldn't get it now. If Ginsburg gets replaced with a boring-ass swing-vote moderate, it will be a disgrace.


Ginsburg will now be replaced with a barely literate, conspiracy spouting Trump fundraiser instead.
 
2020-09-19 7:41:14 AM  
2 votes:

Morning Horsefarts: willwall: They don't want to fill it before the election.

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They are tripping over each other trying to find their seats so they can fill it in record time.  Conservative majority over SCOTUS means they will never need to worry about an election ever again, as they can challenge any result and have the court rule in their favor every time.


Filling it before the election takes it off the table.

There's the possibility evangelicals decide that they got what they wanted and don't show up in numbers. There's also the possibility that senators in tight races would be hurt by it. Look at Collins she's paying for kavanaugh right now. Another vote for a pro life judge and she's buried. There's several senators that would rather not have a decision and would rather run on filling an open seat. Finally I can't possibly think of a better way to galvanize the Democratic party than a new sc justice a couple weeks before the election. Anger is a powerful force.

Almost all of this is avoided by just waiting for the lame duck session.
 
2020-09-19 7:34:49 AM  
2 votes:

MattytheMouse: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Can we stop saying this as if the guy was voted into office, and instead be petty and biatchy over the fact that our electoral system works like a goddamn game of Quidditch?


Were we unaware of the system last time? No? Then we don't get to biatch about the rules now.
 
2020-09-19 7:29:03 AM  
2 votes:

willwall: They don't want to fill it before the election.


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They are tripping over each other trying to find their seats so they can fill it in record time.  Conservative majority over SCOTUS means they will never need to worry about an election ever again, as they can challenge any result and have the court rule in their favor every time.
 
2020-09-19 7:17:24 AM  
2 votes:
This is McConnell's dream. He won't even care if he loses control of the Senate if he gets another SC seat.
 
2020-09-19 7:14:50 AM  
2 votes:
There are single issue voters for Trump. He gets another anti abortion vote on the SCOTUS, they may feel that he has nothing more to offer them. They might just stay home.

On the other hand, some might be more energized to vote.

We'll know for sure in six weeks or so.
 
2020-09-19 7:13:41 AM  
2 votes:

EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.


Stupid won a long time ago, now it's just showing off.
 
2020-09-19 7:03:46 AM  
2 votes:
Traitorous piece of shiat says what?
 
2020-09-19 5:44:42 AM  
2 votes:
"Oh, that thing before? That was an Obama rule. It doesn't count for us."
 
2020-09-19 2:04:22 AM  
2 votes:
Can't win a contested election if you don't own the courts.
 
2020-09-19 1:50:49 AM  
2 votes:
The day that farking ghoul draws his last breath should become a national holiday.

Fark you, Mitch.
 
2020-09-19 5:52:15 PM  
1 vote:
Hey Mitch:

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You hypocritical piece of dogshiat.
 
2020-09-19 2:23:41 PM  
1 vote:
I can't wait for the Hughes Amendment to be thrown out!  Wooooo!
 
hk5
2020-09-19 1:47:16 PM  
1 vote:
My message for the farking turtle:
From the Heart (I Hate You) - PSYCHOSTICK
Youtube oww5UWEeAO4
 
2020-09-19 12:48:38 PM  
1 vote:
"The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president," Schumer tweeted, quoting McConnell, who made the same statement during Barack Obama's presidency after Justice Antonin Scalia died in 2016.

Democrats need to do more of this.
 
2020-09-19 12:16:54 PM  
1 vote:

FarkBucket18: Aquapope: The Senate can't take up any business as long as an Impeachment from the House is sitting on Mitch's desk.  So Monday morning, the House should rush through an impeachment - lord knows there are any number of reasons for one.  Sure, Mitch would rush through an acquittal, but that would have bought at least a week, and by that time he'd be sitting on another impeachment.  Lather, rinse, repeat.

Totally legal and constitutional and a sure way to piss off everybody, but it would work.  Except Mitch would just ignore the impeachments, illegally, and go about whatever evil he has in mind.

Which is exactly why the Democrats won't do it: because they are spineless weasels.


if they won't do it now, they are complicit
 
2020-09-19 12:14:29 PM  
1 vote:
So can we please make the 2020 election about the Republican Party being corrupt lying bastards from top to bottom?
 
2020-09-19 12:04:57 PM  
1 vote:
The Republican party will not destroy America.  America will destroy the Republican party.
 
2020-09-19 11:32:08 AM  
1 vote:

suebhoney: We vote in every election. But beyond that, we are unable to help. 😪


Then you are doing all you can, and have no reason to feel otherwise.
The best revenge is being happy, and not letting the bastards grind you down.
Remember - we always win in the end. Over time, all the victories have ultimately gone to the good guys.
The only personal tragedy is that we don't always live to see justice in our time - so you need to look at the course of human progress and remind yourself that we always win in the end.
 
2020-09-19 11:30:15 AM  
1 vote:

mofa: Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Kavanaugh
Nominated: 7/9/18
Confirmed: 10/6/18

So does that...

Does that mean you're agreeing with me that since it's 106 days until a new Congress & they delayed the Kavanaugh confirmation ny 90 days, if she had died a couple weeks later, they could have delayed it a similar amount of time?

Or does that mean you think they can delay it longer, like they did for Thomas, at 99 days, & that they'll be able to push that to 106 days?

Or... you're not suggesting that 90 days is less than 45 days, right?

I thought it might be comforting to know that even the most recent guy took almost 3 months to confirm. People keep saying McConnell will have this done within a week, but the process definitely takes way longer than that, unless there's some special legislative power he's hiding up his sleeve.

I think McConnell can change any Senate rule by a simple majority vote. Much of the United States depended on politicians' honor.


And take a look at this contemptible, and since deleted, tweet from Chris Coons' republican challenger in DE...

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2020-09-19 11:19:13 AM  
1 vote:

Klyukva: Don't worry everyone. Check out this poll.

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The seat is safe.


Pull the other one, its got bells on
 
2020-09-19 11:16:54 AM  
1 vote:
And our founding fathers in their infinite wisdom have given us the Second Amendment solution
 
2020-09-19 11:06:40 AM  
1 vote:
All I know is that if Biden wins, Breyer needs to resign in a year or so, so he can be replaced with a Biden nominee before he starts getting sick.
 
2020-09-19 11:00:24 AM  
1 vote:

Klyukva: Don't worry everyone. Check out this poll.

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The seat is safe.


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2020-09-19 10:50:53 AM  
1 vote:
So they push this this thru before nov 3rd? Ted Cruz is confirmed.  The election becomes Florida recount 2000 nightmare on compound V, court declares Trump winner for life, the sky rips open and a giant Robbie Rotten from LazyTown destroys what's left of the planet?
Does that sound possible? Cause I just don't know anymore.
 
2020-09-19 10:50:18 AM  
1 vote:

qorkfiend: Farkin_Crazy: qorkfiend: Farkin_Crazy: Klyukva: Farkin_Crazy: Yes. Theresa Greenfield.

I tweeted at her, and so have others, already this morning that if she doesn't hammer Ernst on her fundraising email that went out 10 minutes after RBG's death was announced, I'd re-evaluate my vote for her.

I don't want a Senator who is going to stand by idly and watch this shiat happen without speaking up.

So you're saying you really would endanger the chance of a Democratic majority in the senate, or do you just hope she believes you would?

I'd leave it up to everyone else to figure that out.

If Greenfield doesn't stand up for what's right, why should I vote for her? I wouldn't feel like she could be considered a solid vote for doing the right thing.

Are...are you kidding?

Would you vote for someone who sits by and doesn't call Ernst out for that email?

Would I stand by in 2020 while a fascist-enabling Republican is elected to the Senate? No, I farking would not, and you're a real piece of shiat if you would.


Eat shiat.

It's my vote. If TG doesn't stand up for herself, why should I?

And I wouldn't cast a vote for Ernst FYI.
 
2020-09-19 10:48:03 AM  
1 vote:

Alphax: danvon: MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???

I saw Murkowsky say that, who was the other one? As far as I know, the VP would be a tie breaker.

Another thread said Mitt Romney.. and a couple others.  Perhaps even Lindsey Graham.. which sounds like a long shot, but he may be desperate enough to keep his 'job'.


Subtract one for that rat bastard from West Virginia whose name I can't be bothered to look up.
 
2020-09-19 10:44:26 AM  
1 vote:
I fear that if they seat a SCOTUS it s going to make real violence inevitable.

POC, LGBTQ, etc are not going to go quietly

and once they do away with abortion the court will then get down to their corporate agenda and the trumpers will then see that they voted in their own doom
 
2020-09-19 10:31:32 AM  
1 vote:

koder: It remains unclear whether Republicans would have the votes to make a new appointment before Nov. 3.

Oh they'll have the votes. The entire election hinges on prematurely declaring Trump the winner. They'll call all The Families in for every Favor.


If they cheat and the supreme court helps, I fully expect that some liberal gun owner will seek a second amendment solution.

The ironic thing is, I always thought the stupidity of the whole "guns to fight tyranny" implied that you didn't have faith in our democracy as it exists.  So people buying guns to fight the government basically had no faith in the democratic process our founders created.

Now THOSE people have subverted the process and created an environment where LIBERALS have lost faith in the democratic institutions we used to trust.  That's how this will go down.  You'll see liberals voting and fighting and organizing and if none of it matters, if they somehow steal the presidency anyway and the courts helps them, there will be bloodshed.  Somebody will break out their sniper rifle and go on a hunting spree.

I hope not.  I hope none of that happens.  But if it does, I hope they start with Moscow Mitch.
 
2020-09-19 10:30:48 AM  
1 vote:
Pro-impeachment artists translated --> Wahhh! We can't do the hard work of winning elections! We need to pass the buck onto our elected officials, who still haven't gotten *children still in cages* released, to try and get fat orange fark face out of office knowing in advance this will fail but at least it runs out the clock, just like a Republican would do! To win, we have to think and act like Republicans! Except, we should still not win elections! Because Republicans win elections and that we should not do! Because then we'd actually have to do something with that power and what we want is a Republican in office so we can cry like babies about it! <--

Like farking seriously, win the presidency. And win the Senate. Court goes to 11. Puerto Rico becomes a state, if they want, and if they don't want then they should be set free. Cut them lose or get married. Stop playing games with impeachment. Stop playing games with Puerto Rico. Get serious.
 
2020-09-19 10:25:29 AM  
1 vote:

Marcus Aurelius: I hope they nominate the biggest anti-abortion/anti-woman/anti-gay/anti​-American asshole they can find.  Another Kavanaugh.  Rip open the national psyche right before the election.


Actually, that's how it may work out.  And listen, the supreme court will matter less if we have the two houses and white house to write and sign progressive laws into place.  We already had the courts shoot down the voting rights act WITH RBG in it.  Now we can rewrite it and apply it to every state and the courts will have to figure out some other reason to shoot it down, but it will take time and in the meantime, it'll make supporession harder.  Smart with gay rights and voting laws, etc.

The game isn't lost.  We lost a valuable piece.  Our queen, if you will.  But other pieces, well placed, can still win the game.
 
2020-09-19 10:13:44 AM  
1 vote:

Champion of the Sun: Mugato: Champion of the Sun: Mugato: Champion of the Sun: Losers cry and excuse

Like making an excuse that you weren't wrong because you didn't like my source that showed you were wrong?

LOL, Mr. Democrat hectoring over the rules (from quora, lol) instead of acting.

Joe Biden can piss his pants on tv. It's legal. But it wouldn't be a good strategy. Just like it wouldn't be a good strategy for the 23 gop senators up for election to have to push through another kavanaugh.

But keep debating the rules. Write a paper. Keep making excuses. Anything but take divisive action

You said that a President can't nominate a judge while being impeached. I showed you were wrong. And you're having a hissy fit. That's all.

Ok, strategically improbable not impossible.

Congrats, you kinda won a pedantic debate, kinda?

Your excuse is solidified.  Good job everyone, we got our excuse.  Our job as democrats is done.


Look, we're basically on the same side here. I just don't think another impeachment would do anything and might actually get Trump more votes because he'll play this as being constantly persecuted but constantly prevailing.
 
2020-09-19 10:07:18 AM  
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2020-09-19 9:59:09 AM  
1 vote:

Mugato: Champion of the Sun: Losers cry and excuse

Like making an excuse that you weren't wrong because you didn't like my source that showed you were wrong?


LOL, Mr. Democrat hectoring over the rules (from quora, lol) instead of acting.

Joe Biden can piss his pants on tv. It's legal. But it wouldn't be a good strategy. Just like it wouldn't be a good strategy for the 23 gop senators up for election to have to push through another kavanaugh.

But keep debating the rules. Write a paper. Keep making excuses. Anything but take divisive action
 
2020-09-19 9:55:06 AM  
1 vote:

Biohazard Banana Suit: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Who are you talking to, exactly? Jill Stein voters?


The people in his head.
 
2020-09-19 9:50:13 AM  
1 vote:
Hey there 2016 non-voters and third-party voters. How are you doing? Listen, remember when we all told you that it matters who was President because that's who picks the judges? Remember that? Remember when we told you that yes, there is a difference between the two parties due to the judges who are chosen, and that the choice of judges will have an impact for decades to come?

Remember that? Remember how that wasn't enough for you to not make that stupid decision you made to vote third party or sit out the election? Remember how your actions in those swing states meant Trump was elected and got to pick those judges?

Yeah, we are all now reaping what you morans have sewn. You could have stopped this madness but you chose not to. You had one job and failed so spectacularly that this nation may not survive. (You and idiots like you got the ball rolling on that when you failed to vote in 2014 and 2010, but that's another rant.)

So good job. If you hate what's going on and are one of the people who had a chance to stop it but chose not to, this is on you. Feel free to blame yourself and feel bad for the rest of your life. This is as much your legacy as anyone else's.

So if you were hoping that maybe your failure wasn't as bad as we all you you it was, you can stop thinking that. It was. You failed and you failed hard. Hopefully we can start to fix this mess soon, but if it becomes a lot more difficult, look in the mirror to see who to blame.

/"But what about the Trump voters?" you ask.
//They wouldn't have been a factor if you had done your jobs.
///You can start to make up for it this time because now we need to vote because our lives actually depend on it. Thanks to you.
 
2020-09-19 9:43:55 AM  
1 vote:
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2020-09-19 9:43:20 AM  
1 vote:
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2020-09-19 9:41:35 AM  
1 vote:

Champion of the Sun: But we can't do anything but wail.


you can, but it requires effort.
 
2020-09-19 9:40:20 AM  
1 vote:

suebhoney: I am scared beyond words.


Don't be. Your first priority is to live your own life, take care of yourself, and thus maintain your potential capacity to help others. Make the right moral choices on a daily basis, participate in your society, send money, vote.
It may be that America made a mistake back in 2016 that it won't recover from without a hefty and painful price to be paid.
Life is like that sometimes - you f**k up, and it costs you, and all you can do is pay.
Hopefully, America will learn something.
Be be brave, be of good cheer, and purchase lots of guns and ammo.
Gardy loo!!
 
2020-09-19 9:39:40 AM  
1 vote:
suebhoney:

I was feeling dread about 6 weeks ago, and it lightened up about 2 weeks ago.

Now that feeling of dread is back and it's 100 fold worse than my initial feeling.

I honestly believe America is done and that sometime within the next 2 years (or less), my SSDI will be taken away, as well as my son's and mine SNAP benefits, and my son's Medicaid. We will be homeless before those 2 years are up & there won't be anyone who will help us, as all social safety nets will be dismantled. 

RBG passing is the absolute worst thing that could have happened right now.

I am scared beyond words.


America is never done...sometimes drunk, sometimes grumpy and hungover, but always ready to go another round. Just vote, encourage others to vote, and trust that the level heads will prevail.
 
2020-09-19 9:37:06 AM  
1 vote:
"In the last midterm election before Justice Scalia's death in 2016, Americans elected a Republican Senate majority because we pledged to check and balance the last days of a lame-duck president's second term. We kept our promise. Since the 1880s, no Senate has confirmed an opposite-party president's Supreme Court nominee in a presidential election year," he said.

Go fark yourself you farking coward.
After Trump, you're next.

farking traitors.
 
2020-09-19 9:33:09 AM  
1 vote:

Klyukva: EvilEgg: Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.

Just use your superior intelligence.

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So - let America die of Trumpism, like Nazi Germany died of Nazism or the Soviet Union died of communism - and sweep up the ashes and rebuild?
Isn't that what the right wing morons want to do about Covid-19, too?
Seems like an unnecessarily costly solution.
 
2020-09-19 9:29:29 AM  
1 vote:
It is gonna be so hard to learn the names of all thirteen Supreme Court Justices next summer.

Seriously that is what needs to happen.  They push in their guy fine.  We get the Senate we need to point out the hypocrisy of what they did after Garlan, then expand the court to thirteen judges and then double the number of Federal judgeships and fill all of those.

The last needs to happen regardless because the  case load.
 
2020-09-19 9:28:49 AM  
1 vote:

EvilEgg: Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.


Just use your superior intelligence.

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2020-09-19 9:26:03 AM  
1 vote:

OldRod: qorkfiend: LurkLongAndProsper: OldRod: chuckles5: I'd like to see Pelosi initiate impeachment proceedings in the house. Let that be resolved before considering a replacement for Justice Ginsberg.

She'll never do it, but that would be awesome!

She'd never do it because it wouldn't accomplish shiat. Good lord people. This is a Nancy Pelosi free conflict. If you need to use a bogeyman Democrat to signal to everyone that the do-nothing democrats are the real problem here, at least use Chuck Schumer. What in the world makes you think McConnell would even acknowledge anything going on in the house?

Actually that sort of parliamentary trickery could work. The objective wouldn't be to actually get someone removed, it would be to force the Senate to waste time on it.

There may be another option too - doesn't the government run out of funding at the end of the month?  What happens if Pelosi refuses to work on a funding bill?  Would that slow things down?


I forgot about the government shutdown. I have no idea how that would work. I'm fine with the idea of closing it all down until after the Election if that would stop it. Pandemic be damned, nothing useful is being done to address that anyway.
 
2020-09-19 9:25:19 AM  
1 vote:
Elections have consequences, and he said he was gonna.
Oh, right.............she had Emails.
Hope you're happy, lazy irresponsible idiots.
 
2020-09-19 9:22:36 AM  
1 vote:

qorkfiend: LurkLongAndProsper: OldRod: chuckles5: I'd like to see Pelosi initiate impeachment proceedings in the house. Let that be resolved before considering a replacement for Justice Ginsberg.

She'll never do it, but that would be awesome!

She'd never do it because it wouldn't accomplish shiat. Good lord people. This is a Nancy Pelosi free conflict. If you need to use a bogeyman Democrat to signal to everyone that the do-nothing democrats are the real problem here, at least use Chuck Schumer. What in the world makes you think McConnell would even acknowledge anything going on in the house?

Actually that sort of parliamentary trickery could work. The objective wouldn't be to actually get someone removed, it would be to force the Senate to waste time on it.


There may be another option too - doesn't the government run out of funding at the end of the month?  What happens if Pelosi refuses to work on a funding bill?  Would that slow things down?
 
2020-09-19 9:19:17 AM  
1 vote:

DarkSoulNoHope: Farkin_Crazy: Professor Duck: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Ginsburg's seat will be filled by Friday.

Announce pick Monday
Have "hearings" Wednesday
Vote to finish hearings Thursday
Vote to confirm Friday, with all The voting yes because of course they will.

If this all plays out like that, the Senate will easily turn blue. Voters will make the GOP pay for their hypocrisy.

And the court will be expanded. Quickly.

This is why I don't like Conservative/Centrist Democrats like you, because you all are stupid and naive!

You think that because you nominated a woman in 2016, automatically you would have a win, no matter how much Hillary was perceived to be unlikable and ran a weak campaign. Now you're assuming that once the Republicans and Mitch McConnell act on their hypocrisy, which was predicted when they blocked Merrick Garland, you'll automatically have the Senate switched to the Democrats and be able to stack the Federal Courts with Biden appointees (having these thoughts when Biden isn't even elected yet)! Stop living in fantasyland and start actually working to win elections, stop assuming you'll automatically win as the "lesser evil"!


Don't lump everyone together. I think most of us know that you shiatheads are going to stay home again just like you did in 2016 and again in the primaries. There will be no senate flip, trump will win re-election, and his court picks will be cemented well enough they'll be there forever. Since you can't be counted on to vote, packing the courts would be a gigantic error as it's only a matter of time before republicans take over the government again and just fark us over worse. Congratulations, this must be a major win for progressivism.
 
2020-09-19 9:14:03 AM  
1 vote:

mofa: Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Kavanaugh
Nominated: 7/9/18
Confirmed: 10/6/18

So does that...

Does that mean you're agreeing with me that since it's 106 days until a new Congress & they delayed the Kavanaugh confirmation ny 90 days, if she had died a couple weeks later, they could have delayed it a similar amount of time?

Or does that mean you think they can delay it longer, like they did for Thomas, at 99 days, & that they'll be able to push that to 106 days?

Or... you're not suggesting that 90 days is less than 45 days, right?

I thought it might be comforting to know that even the most recent guy took almost 3 months to confirm. People keep saying McConnell will have this done within a week, but the process definitely takes way longer than that, unless there's some special legislative power he's hiding up his sleeve.

I think McConnell can change any Senate rule by a simple majority vote. Much of the United States depended on politicians' honor.


Welcome to Representative democracy
 
2020-09-19 9:09:38 AM  
1 vote:

Mugato: Why do they keep talking about election day? Even if he loses, Trump is still President until January.


Confirming a Justice before the election is one thing.  Confirming it after the election, especially if Trump loses, is completely different.  After the election, the people have spoken and said they want Biden to be president.  The people say they want Biden picking SCOTUS Justices

Also, picking one before the election gets that Justice seated before the election challenges all come in, where Trump sues every state that he loses in and ties up the election for months
 
2020-09-19 9:01:31 AM  
1 vote:
Ernst sent out an fundraising email shortly (not exactly just how soon, but it sounds like less than an hour) after it was announced RBG had passed, titled "THE SUPREME COURT IS ON THE LINE".

She may have just cut her throat with voters here.
 
2020-09-19 8:57:42 AM  
1 vote:

danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.


I'd settle for blackmailed.
 
2020-09-19 8:40:08 AM  
1 vote:

kindms: im sure glad rbg got to work until she was 87 and not retiring when she was 82

for all the out pouring of affection a cancer survivor gambled she was either gonna live to be 88 or clinton was going to win. her personal reasons for staying on the court have handed it to republican rule for the next 40 year s at least


Doesn't matter.  The Republicans were never going to confirm anyone nominated by Obama after 2013.  They would have found some reason or other to refuse to consider the nominee, and if that meant having no Justice on the Court for 4 years, they would have done so.  We've been farked since the Republican took the Senate, it was just a matter of time to see how farked.
 
2020-09-19 8:37:41 AM  
1 vote:

Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Kavanaugh
Nominated: 7/9/18
Confirmed: 10/6/18

So does that...

Does that mean you're agreeing with me that since it's 106 days until a new Congress & they delayed the Kavanaugh confirmation ny 90 days, if she had died a couple weeks later, they could have delayed it a similar amount of time?

Or does that mean you think they can delay it longer, like they did for Thomas, at 99 days, & that they'll be able to push that to 106 days?

Or... you're not suggesting that 90 days is less than 45 days, right?

I thought it might be comforting to know that even the most recent guy took almost 3 months to confirm. People keep saying McConnell will have this done within a week, but the process definitely takes way longer than that, unless there's some special legislative power he's hiding up his sleeve.


For love of all that crawls, walks, swims, slithers, or flies, I hope you're right.
 
2020-09-19 8:35:04 AM  
1 vote:

Farkin_Crazy: JimmyTheHutt: Farkin_Crazy: Professor Duck: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Ginsburg's seat will be filled by Friday.

Announce pick Monday
Have "hearings" Wednesday
Vote to finish hearings Thursday
Vote to confirm Friday, with all The voting yes because of course they will.

If this all plays out like that, the Senate will easily turn blue. Voters will make the GOP pay for their hypocrisy.

And the court will be expanded. Quickly.

How?  Trump will be President in 2021 no matter what now.

Hurrr duuurrrr deeeeeerrrrrrrpppppp


1. Trump uses the open seat as a rallying cry. Evangelicals, who already vote in large numbers and are everywhere, vote in even greater numbers.
2. The contested election ends up in front of the Supreme Court, which is now locked by conservatives.  It doesn't matter what the arguments are, they will decide fire Trump.
 
2020-09-19 8:34:39 AM  
1 vote:

GrizzlyPouch: Maynard G. Muskievote: Just a reminder that only about 750,000 goobers elect this farker. Tyranny of the minority, indeed.

He doesn't get to make decisions by himself.  Man you guys suck at understanding like....everything.


Hurr hurr 750k ppl in Kentucky get to decide who makes all the laws.


You are one dumb motherfarker.
 
2020-09-19 8:28:24 AM  
1 vote:

Farkin_Crazy: AZ, CO, IA for starters.


ME and CO seem like the best bets, which CO not far behind. AZ and IA are tricky. Lots of "common clay" types in each, plus lots of voter suppression.
 
2020-09-19 8:24:54 AM  
1 vote:

JimmyTheHutt: Farkin_Crazy: Professor Duck: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Ginsburg's seat will be filled by Friday.

Announce pick Monday
Have "hearings" Wednesday
Vote to finish hearings Thursday
Vote to confirm Friday, with all The voting yes because of course they will.

If this all plays out like that, the Senate will easily turn blue. Voters will make the GOP pay for their hypocrisy.

And the court will be expanded. Quickly.

How?  Trump will be President in 2021 no matter what now.


Hurrr duuurrrr deeeeeerrrrrrrpppppp
 
2020-09-19 8:22:19 AM  
1 vote:
This is McConnell's:

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2020-09-19 8:21:33 AM  
1 vote:

Farkin_Crazy: Professor Duck: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Ginsburg's seat will be filled by Friday.

Announce pick Monday
Have "hearings" Wednesday
Vote to finish hearings Thursday
Vote to confirm Friday, with all The voting yes because of course they will.

If this all plays out like that, the Senate will easily turn blue. Voters will make the GOP pay for their hypocrisy.

And the court will be expanded. Quickly.


How?  Trump will be President in 2021 no matter what now.
 
2020-09-19 8:21:00 AM  
1 vote:

theinsultabot9000: Anyone in 2016 who did not process that refusing to support the lesser of two evils means you support the greater if two evils deserves the current environment.


But hey, they got to keep their moral purity intact and their hands clean - that's what really matters.

Also they can act all smug when they tell us that both sides are just as bad.
 
2020-09-19 8:20:23 AM  
1 vote:
Prediction: McConnell won't have the votes to confirm a nominee because vulnerable Republicans will reject the idea of hitting the blue voter hornets nest with a stick because they are already swarming enough as it is. That said, on November 4th after it doesn't matter, those votes will magically materialize regardless of the outcome because the senators will have either lost and go into lame duck mode or they will have won and go into "this is the will of the people" mode.
 
2020-09-19 8:19:25 AM  
1 vote:

andrewagill: Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Kavanaugh
Nominated: 7/9/18
Confirmed: 10/6/18

So does that...

Does that mean you're agreeing with me that since it's 106 days until a new Congress & they delayed the Kavanaugh confirmation ny 90 days, if she had died a couple weeks later, they could have delayed it a similar amount of time?

Or does that mean you think they can delay it longer, like they did for Thomas, at 99 days, & that they'll be able to push that to 106 days?

Or... you're not suggesting that 90 days is less than 45 days, right?

I thought it might be comforting to know that even the most recent guy took almost 3 months to confirm. People keep saying McConnell will have this done within a week, but the process definitely takes way longer than that, unless there's some special legislative power he's hiding up his sleeve.

Ah.

I'm used to people dropping random facts into a reply without context with an implication that I'm wrong.

You're echoing the exact same point I keep making.


I realize that my Weeners should have included a line with "the pattern holds up".
 
2020-09-19 8:13:37 AM  
1 vote:

Uncle Eazy: They would be smart to wait until after the election. There may be a few R senators that would be hesitant to rubber stamp some Trump lunatic with an election in six weeks.

After the election it won't matter. Either they won and are in for another six years, or they lost and they're out and they'll be happy to burn the place down on the way out.


Which Senators? Is Susan Collins concerned?
 
2020-09-19 8:12:32 AM  
1 vote:

Steampunk Gallagher: GrizzlyPouch: Shame on republicans for doing things legally the way it's described in the constitution.

We should do a bunch of illegal things or change all the rules, Like adding a bunch of new justices.  Or murdering all Republicans!

Merrick Garland would like a word.


Please ignore the worst troll Fark has ever had.
 
2020-09-19 8:12:01 AM  
1 vote:

GrizzlyPouch: Shame on republicans for doing things legally the way it's described in the constitution.

We should do a bunch of illegal things or change all the rules, Like adding a bunch of new justices.  Or murdering all Republicans!


Merrick Garland would like a word.
 
2020-09-19 8:10:51 AM  
1 vote:

andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.


Ginsburg's seat will be filled by Friday.

Announce pick Monday
Have "hearings" Wednesday
Vote to finish hearings Thursday
Vote to confirm Friday, with all The voting yes because of course they will.
 
2020-09-19 8:09:16 AM  
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Farkin_Crazy: twat_waffle: Alphax: danvon: MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???

I saw Murkowsky say that, who was the other one? As far as I know, the VP would be a tie breaker.

Another thread said Mitt Romney.. and a couple others.  Perhaps even Lindsey Graham.. which sounds like a long shot, but he may be desperate enough to keep his 'job'.

Gardner and Collins would probably defect out of self-preservation, too.

After the election, though? All bets are off. The Democrats would be wise to kidnap three or four Republican senators, stash them someplace safe and disconnected from the outside world, and then stay in their states until January 3rd.

If there are defectors, they will come from Romney, Murkowski (she's already said she won't vote for a nominee that is rammed through at this late date), Gardner, and who the fark knows about Collins.

One other nugget to keep in mind. Since Mark Kelly and McSally are a special election, the winner can be sworn in almost immediately. They don't have to wait until January.


Collins said a few weeks ago that she wouldn't support placing a new nominee. But yeah, doesn't mean she won't change her mind.
 
2020-09-19 7:59:26 AM  
1 vote:

MattytheMouse: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: Were we unaware of the system last time? No? Then we don't get to biatch about the rules now.

But the rules are objectively bad. We should be biatching about them perpetually. They're bad.

Like, yeah. We should be biatching about them, 'cause those rules are the only way this guy got elected in the first places, and it's the only way he faces reelection. It's not that people are voting wrong. It's that this is a big oopsie for democracy.


Actually it is that they're voting wrong when they fail to take into consideration the rules that have governed the system for close to two centuries
 
2020-09-19 7:58:28 AM  
1 vote:

MattytheMouse: qorkfiend: MattytheMouse: qorkfiend: MattytheMouse: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Can we stop saying this as if the guy was voted into office, and instead be petty and biatchy over the fact that our electoral system works like a goddamn game of Quidditch?

Were we unaware of the system last time? No? Then we don't get to biatch about the rules now.

Uh, yeah, we should biatch about the rules. Now more than ever, in fact. 'Cause they're bad rules and I've had two presidents in my lifetime win by losing. This last time, by a pretty significant margin!

Great. And?

Was that possibility some sort of unknown? No, but the "protest voters" did their thing anyway and now we get to suffer the consequences? Cool.

Personally, I think it's more constructive to biatch about the system that allows somebody to win by losing by three million votes, than sniping at individuals that apparently didn't vote right, but that's just my opinion, I guess.


Why not both?

The system is awful and should. It work that way.

Anyone in 2016 who did not process that refusing to support the lesser of two evils means you support the greater if two evils deserves the current environment.
 
2020-09-19 7:57:37 AM  
1 vote:

MattytheMouse: qorkfiend: MattytheMouse: qorkfiend: MattytheMouse: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Can we stop saying this as if the guy was voted into office, and instead be petty and biatchy over the fact that our electoral system works like a goddamn game of Quidditch?

Were we unaware of the system last time? No? Then we don't get to biatch about the rules now.

Uh, yeah, we should biatch about the rules. Now more than ever, in fact. 'Cause they're bad rules and I've had two presidents in my lifetime win by losing. This last time, by a pretty significant margin!

Great. And?

Was that possibility some sort of unknown? No, but the "protest voters" did their thing anyway and now we get to suffer the consequences? Cool.

Personally, I think it's more constructive to biatch about the system that allows somebody to win by losing by three million votes, than sniping at individuals that apparently didn't vote right, but that's just my opinion, I guess.


And again, was it an unknown that the system could produce such a result? The rules weren't changed on you. You knew what they were and decided to risk a Trump presidency and all that entailed. Well, here you go.
 
2020-09-19 7:57:18 AM  
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Chariset: willwall: They can get the best of both worlds by waiting until the election

But Trump has the patience and attention span of a toddler, plus he's almost certainly going to use the Court to contest the election results.  He wants a person in that seat NOW, so that he 'knows' that person will support him


Individual senators have the power here. If 4 senators decide that they won't confirm and stand firm it doesn't matter what McConnell and Trump want. McConnell is throwing up trial balloons. He'll back down if he has to.

My guess is they milk it for all it's worth, Trump spends a bunch of time talking about it on the trail, he floats names for weeks getting news cycles and he appoints someone on the eve of the election to get a big announcement. At risk senators use the election as an excuse but are careful to make it sound it's because of how busy they are and how it needs their full attention. If they lose they can then say that they are able to focus during the lame duck session and vote to confirm.
 
2020-09-19 7:53:49 AM  
1 vote:

JimmyTheHutt: vpb: EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.

Expand the size of the SC and pack the court.

None of which is possible now.  There is no path that allows that to happen.
Biden can't win the election now, and McConnell will guarantee that.  He will have someone on that bench by next week.


This is my biggest fear. McConnell pulls every favor, makes every empty promise, all hinging on "if you just fall in one last time, with this SC appointment we can steal the election, and then we will be in a position to never lose power again". And it will probably work, and with that the Republic as we know it will be well and truly over.
 
2020-09-19 7:50:16 AM  
1 vote:

t3knomanser: qorkfiend: Were we unaware of the system last time? No? Then we don't get to biatch about the rules now.

But the rules are objectively bad. We should be biatching about them perpetually. They're bad.


Like, yeah. We should be biatching about them, 'cause those rules are the only way this guy got elected in the first places, and it's the only way he faces reelection. It's not that people are voting wrong. It's that this is a big oopsie for democracy.
 
2020-09-19 7:49:40 AM  
1 vote:
Hey McConnell....
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2020-09-19 7:44:05 AM  
1 vote:
This is the endgame, just a few more weeks until we find out if this country has finished it's 245 year run. If Trump is allowed to stick another boot-licking conservative on the Supreme Court and then wins another term it's all over. Go vote like your lives depend on it.
 
2020-09-19 7:40:47 AM  
1 vote:
I wanna punch this guy right in his turkey neck throat every time I see him
 
2020-09-19 7:38:37 AM  
1 vote:

MattytheMouse: qorkfiend: MattytheMouse: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Can we stop saying this as if the guy was voted into office, and instead be petty and biatchy over the fact that our electoral system works like a goddamn game of Quidditch?

Were we unaware of the system last time? No? Then we don't get to biatch about the rules now.

Uh, yeah, we should biatch about the rules. Now more than ever, in fact. 'Cause they're bad rules and I've had two presidents in my lifetime win by losing. This last time, by a pretty significant margin!


Great. And?

Was that possibility some sort of unknown? No, but the "protest voters" did their thing anyway and now we get to suffer the consequences? Cool.
 
2020-09-19 7:37:35 AM  
1 vote:

Hand Banana: Why can't Mitch McConnell just die? That piece of shiat has been screwing up our country for nearly

40 years, enough already.
 
2020-09-19 7:34:55 AM  
1 vote:

willwall: They can get the best of both worlds by waiting until the election


But Trump has the patience and attention span of a toddler, plus he's almost certainly going to use the Court to contest the election results.  He wants a person in that seat NOW, so that he 'knows' that person will support him
 
2020-09-19 7:31:46 AM  
1 vote:

MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???


Counterpoint: Manchin
 
2020-09-19 7:31:40 AM  
1 vote:
To: McConnell, Mitch

Message: FARK YOU! Strongly worded letter to follow

END
 
2020-09-19 7:31:35 AM  
1 vote:

Hand Banana: Why can't Mitch McConnell just die? That piece of shiat has been screwing up our country for nearly years, enough already.


The miserable live forever
 
2020-09-19 7:30:29 AM  
1 vote:
Why can't Mitch McConnell just die? That piece of shiat has been screwing up our country for nearly years, enough already.
 
2020-09-19 7:18:17 AM  
1 vote:
Mitch McConnell is filth, and always has been.

History always talk about the Hitlers and Stalin's of the world, the evil dictators who rule with an iron fist, and hold contempt for any rules or restrictions that would restrain them. It rarely remembers the wormtounges of the world, like McConnell, who enabled them, but they are every bit as dangerous and contemptible as their masters.
 
2020-09-19 7:15:42 AM  
1 vote:
They will confirm a total asshole to fill her seat and they will feel no shame about it.
 
2020-09-19 7:11:31 AM  
1 vote:
"Checkmate!" - Deplorables

/2020 sucks
 
2020-09-19 7:07:03 AM  
1 vote:

LordBeavis: Wouldn't holding on to the pick after the election make more sense?  If they fill the spot now, that would energize the left and really do nothing for turning out their own voters.  If they wait, that might even convince some of these Lincoln Project and Never Trumpers to turn out and vote for him.  Worst case scenario for them and the Dems sweep the House, Senate, and White House, they can still ram their pick I'm calling Brett Kavanaugh 2:Rapier Doosh Bro through during the lame duck session.

I don't think they will, though, as Yertle and Fat Turd have the guile and cunning of a wet sponge.


A presidential election really only has a 4 or 8 year effect. The Supreme Court appointment last an entire generation. Don't think that Mitch McConnell hasn't already done the math on this and decided that Trump is on his way out anyway.

The GOP isn't concerned with good governance , they are and they will always be about enriching themselves at your expense.
 
2020-09-19 7:03:21 AM  
1 vote:

MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???


I saw Murkowsky say that, who was the other one? As far as I know, the VP would be a tie breaker.
 
2020-09-19 6:59:43 AM  
1 vote:
Is there any person on this Earth who thought, even for an instant, that the Republican party would be intellectually honest?
 
2020-09-19 6:58:46 AM  
1 vote:
People keep saying this is the "runup to an election"

The election has already started.  People are voting in some states already.

So McConnell isn't doing this "before an election", he's doing it while votes are being cast
 
2020-09-18 10:17:34 PM  
1 vote:
Did anybody actually expect him to not be a hypocrite about this? The dude has the moral fortitude of a wet noodle.
 
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