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2020-09-19 7:18:17 AM  
Mitch McConnell is filth, and always has been.

History always talk about the Hitlers and Stalin's of the world, the evil dictators who rule with an iron fist, and hold contempt for any rules or restrictions that would restrain them. It rarely remembers the wormtounges of the world, like McConnell, who enabled them, but they are every bit as dangerous and contemptible as their masters.
 
2020-09-19 7:18:33 AM  
Stephen Miller is getting the nomination

Or Ivanka.  Or Jared.

Book it. Done.
 
2020-09-19 7:21:56 AM  

NobleHam: mrwknd: Merrick Garland or no one.

Fark that. Merrick Garland was a sensible moderate, an olive branch to the Republicans saying "we're not going to replace Scalia with a total liberal." They didn't take the olive branch then, they shouldn't get it now. If Ginsburg gets replaced with a boring-ass swing-vote moderate, it will be a disgrace.


If Ginsburg ends up replaced with a boring-ass moderate instead of a fascist conservative it will be a stunning victory
 
2020-09-19 7:22:02 AM  
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2020-09-19 7:22:46 AM  

koder: It remains unclear whether Republicans would have the votes to make a new appointment before Nov. 3.

Oh they'll have the votes. The entire election hinges on prematurely declaring Trump the winner. They'll call all The Families in for every Favor.


They don't want to fill it before the election.
Trump's only hope is everyone who supports him turns out. The best way to turn out evangelicals is to have that open seat in jeopardy.

They can get the best of both worlds by waiting until the election. If they win they can say they were being honorable and letting the people choose. If they lose they can pass a judge through a lame duck session and have avoided a lot of the fallout during the campaign
 
2020-09-19 7:24:28 AM  
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It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.
 
2020-09-19 7:26:23 AM  
I hear this guy isn't doing much of anything at the moment.

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2020-09-19 7:27:10 AM  
Man. I'm upset that the thread where we discussed throwing soup at McConnell didn't go green.
 
2020-09-19 7:29:03 AM  

willwall: They don't want to fill it before the election.


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They are tripping over each other trying to find their seats so they can fill it in record time.  Conservative majority over SCOTUS means they will never need to worry about an election ever again, as they can challenge any result and have the court rule in their favor every time.
 
2020-09-19 7:29:24 AM  

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?


Who are you talking to, exactly? Jill Stein voters?
 
2020-09-19 7:30:29 AM  
Why can't Mitch McConnell just die? That piece of shiat has been screwing up our country for nearly years, enough already.
 
2020-09-19 7:30:31 AM  

MattytheMouse: Man. I'm upset that the thread where we discussed throwing soup at McConnell didn't go green.


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2020-09-19 7:31:03 AM  
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2020-09-19 7:31:24 AM  

koder: It remains unclear whether Republicans would have the votes to make a new appointment before Nov. 3.

Oh they'll have the votes. The entire election hinges on prematurely declaring Trump the winner. They'll call all The Families in for every Favor.


They'll call all of the families in to show them all of the dirt they have on them.
 
2020-09-19 7:31:35 AM  

Hand Banana: Why can't Mitch McConnell just die? That piece of shiat has been screwing up our country for nearly years, enough already.


The miserable live forever
 
2020-09-19 7:31:40 AM  
To: McConnell, Mitch

Message: FARK YOU! Strongly worded letter to follow

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2020-09-19 7:31:46 AM  

MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???


Counterpoint: Manchin
 
2020-09-19 7:32:18 AM  

Morning Horsefarts: Conservative majority over SCOTUS means they will never need to worry about an election ever again, as they can challenge any result and have the court rule in their favor every time.


The exciting part comes after that, when the shooting starts.

/it's gonna be a shiat show!
 
2020-09-19 7:33:26 AM  

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?


Can we stop saying this as if the guy was voted into office, and instead be petty and biatchy over the fact that our electoral system works like a goddamn game of Quidditch?
 
2020-09-19 7:34:16 AM  

Purple_Urkle: MattytheMouse: Man. I'm upset that the thread where we discussed throwing soup at McConnell didn't go green.

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2020-09-19 7:34:49 AM  

MattytheMouse: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Can we stop saying this as if the guy was voted into office, and instead be petty and biatchy over the fact that our electoral system works like a goddamn game of Quidditch?


Were we unaware of the system last time? No? Then we don't get to biatch about the rules now.
 
2020-09-19 7:34:55 AM  

willwall: They can get the best of both worlds by waiting until the election


But Trump has the patience and attention span of a toddler, plus he's almost certainly going to use the Court to contest the election results.  He wants a person in that seat NOW, so that he 'knows' that person will support him
 
2020-09-19 7:35:36 AM  

danvon: As stupid as this may sound, there is an outside chance that this might be too egregious even for Collins.


She is going to REALLY furrow her brow and say she is beyond concerned, nay disgusted that she is today having to cast her vote to confirm Justice Cruz, and it really must never happen again.
 
2020-09-19 7:35:38 AM  

andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.


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2020-09-19 7:36:46 AM  

qorkfiend: MattytheMouse: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Can we stop saying this as if the guy was voted into office, and instead be petty and biatchy over the fact that our electoral system works like a goddamn game of Quidditch?

Were we unaware of the system last time? No? Then we don't get to biatch about the rules now.


Uh, yeah, we should biatch about the rules. Now more than ever, in fact. 'Cause they're bad rules and I've had two presidents in my lifetime win by losing. This last time, by a pretty significant margin!
 
2020-09-19 7:37:35 AM  

Hand Banana: Why can't Mitch McConnell just die? That piece of shiat has been screwing up our country for nearly

40 years, enough already.
 
2020-09-19 7:38:37 AM  

MattytheMouse: qorkfiend: MattytheMouse: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Can we stop saying this as if the guy was voted into office, and instead be petty and biatchy over the fact that our electoral system works like a goddamn game of Quidditch?

Were we unaware of the system last time? No? Then we don't get to biatch about the rules now.

Uh, yeah, we should biatch about the rules. Now more than ever, in fact. 'Cause they're bad rules and I've had two presidents in my lifetime win by losing. This last time, by a pretty significant margin!


Great. And?

Was that possibility some sort of unknown? No, but the "protest voters" did their thing anyway and now we get to suffer the consequences? Cool.
 
2020-09-19 7:40:47 AM  
I wanna punch this guy right in his turkey neck throat every time I see him
 
2020-09-19 7:41:14 AM  

Morning Horsefarts: willwall: They don't want to fill it before the election.

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They are tripping over each other trying to find their seats so they can fill it in record time.  Conservative majority over SCOTUS means they will never need to worry about an election ever again, as they can challenge any result and have the court rule in their favor every time.


Filling it before the election takes it off the table.

There's the possibility evangelicals decide that they got what they wanted and don't show up in numbers. There's also the possibility that senators in tight races would be hurt by it. Look at Collins she's paying for kavanaugh right now. Another vote for a pro life judge and she's buried. There's several senators that would rather not have a decision and would rather run on filling an open seat. Finally I can't possibly think of a better way to galvanize the Democratic party than a new sc justice a couple weeks before the election. Anger is a powerful force.

Almost all of this is avoided by just waiting for the lame duck session.
 
2020-09-19 7:42:20 AM  
No shiat, subby.
 
2020-09-19 7:43:57 AM  

NobleHam: mrwknd: Merrick Garland or no one.

Fark that. Merrick Garland was a sensible moderate, an olive branch to the Republicans saying "we're not going to replace Scalia with a total liberal." They didn't take the olive branch then, they shouldn't get it now. If Ginsburg gets replaced with a boring-ass swing-vote moderate, it will be a disgrace.


Ginsburg will now be replaced with a barely literate, conspiracy spouting Trump fundraiser instead.
 
2020-09-19 7:44:05 AM  
This is the endgame, just a few more weeks until we find out if this country has finished it's 245 year run. If Trump is allowed to stick another boot-licking conservative on the Supreme Court and then wins another term it's all over. Go vote like your lives depend on it.
 
2020-09-19 7:44:56 AM  

qorkfiend: Were we unaware of the system last time? No? Then we don't get to biatch about the rules now.


But the rules are objectively bad. We should be biatching about them perpetually. They're bad.
 
2020-09-19 7:46:24 AM  

qorkfiend: MattytheMouse: qorkfiend: MattytheMouse: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Can we stop saying this as if the guy was voted into office, and instead be petty and biatchy over the fact that our electoral system works like a goddamn game of Quidditch?

Were we unaware of the system last time? No? Then we don't get to biatch about the rules now.

Uh, yeah, we should biatch about the rules. Now more than ever, in fact. 'Cause they're bad rules and I've had two presidents in my lifetime win by losing. This last time, by a pretty significant margin!

Great. And?

Was that possibility some sort of unknown? No, but the "protest voters" did their thing anyway and now we get to suffer the consequences? Cool.


Personally, I think it's more constructive to biatch about the system that allows somebody to win by losing by three million votes, than sniping at individuals that apparently didn't vote right, but that's just my opinion, I guess.
 
2020-09-19 7:49:37 AM  

vpb: EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.

Expand the size of the SC and pack the court.


None of which is possible now.  There is no path that allows that to happen.
Biden can't win the election now, and McConnell will guarantee that.  He will have someone on that bench by next week.
 
2020-09-19 7:49:40 AM  
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2020-09-19 7:49:48 AM  

RanHakubi: To: McConnell, Mitch

Message: FARK YOU! Strongly worded letter to follow

END


Part of me, just a small part, hopes that someone out there is thinking "Fark you. Fast moving projectile to follow."  Why does God take the good ones and leave the total assholes?
 
2020-09-19 7:50:16 AM  

t3knomanser: qorkfiend: Were we unaware of the system last time? No? Then we don't get to biatch about the rules now.

But the rules are objectively bad. We should be biatching about them perpetually. They're bad.


Like, yeah. We should be biatching about them, 'cause those rules are the only way this guy got elected in the first places, and it's the only way he faces reelection. It's not that people are voting wrong. It's that this is a big oopsie for democracy.
 
2020-09-19 7:51:04 AM  
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2020-09-19 7:51:40 AM  

LordBeavis: Wouldn't holding on to the pick after the election make more sense?  If they fill the spot now, that would energize the left and really do nothing for turning out their own voters.  If they wait, that might even convince some of these Lincoln Project and Never Trumpers to turn out and vote for him.  Worst case scenario for them and the Dems sweep the House, Senate, and White House, they can still ram their pick I'm calling Brett Kavanaugh 2:Rapier Doosh Bro through during the lame duck session.

I don't think they will, though, as Yertle and Fat Turd have the guile and cunning of a wet sponge.


They want that overwhelming majority on the SCOTUS to make sure that they win. They need them to rubber stamp every underhanded and illegal thing they pull to do so.

They will do everything they can to hold onto power.  Note what I said, power.

They've given up any actual pretense of governing anymore.
 
2020-09-19 7:52:20 AM  

Hand Banana: Why can't Mitch McConnell just die? That piece of shiat has been screwing up our country for nearly years, enough already.


In the immortal words of Mike Patton:  "shiat lives forever."
 
2020-09-19 7:52:24 AM  

willwall: koder: It remains unclear whether Republicans would have the votes to make a new appointment before Nov. 3.

Oh they'll have the votes. The entire election hinges on prematurely declaring Trump the winner. They'll call all The Families in for every Favor.

They don't want to fill it before the election.
Trump's only hope is everyone who supports him turns out. The best way to turn out evangelicals is to have that open seat in jeopardy.

They can get the best of both worlds by waiting until the election. If they win they can say they were being honorable and letting the people choose. If they lose they can pass a judge through a lame duck session and have avoided a lot of the fallout during the campaign


They can't guarantee the election win without having someone in that seat.
 
2020-09-19 7:53:49 AM  

JimmyTheHutt: vpb: EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.

Expand the size of the SC and pack the court.

None of which is possible now.  There is no path that allows that to happen.
Biden can't win the election now, and McConnell will guarantee that.  He will have someone on that bench by next week.


This is my biggest fear. McConnell pulls every favor, makes every empty promise, all hinging on "if you just fall in one last time, with this SC appointment we can steal the election, and then we will be in a position to never lose power again". And it will probably work, and with that the Republic as we know it will be well and truly over.
 
2020-09-19 7:55:01 AM  
Republicans are about as pro-life as Satan and Hitler.  Also, serial killers.  Them and serial killers and child rapists.

For some reason, people in this country think if you're a superstitious dimwit, that somehow you're a good person.  Nothing could be further from the truth.
 
2020-09-19 7:55:40 AM  

kyuzokai: JimmyTheHutt: vpb: EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.

Expand the size of the SC and pack the court.

None of which is possible now.  There is no path that allows that to happen.
Biden can't win the election now, and McConnell will guarantee that.  He will have someone on that bench by next week.

This is my biggest fear. McConnell pulls every favor, makes every empty promise, all hinging on "if you just fall in one last time, with this SC appointment we can steal the election, and then we will be in a position to never lose power again". And it will probably work, and with that the Republic as we know it will be well and truly over.


postscript... we all might wanna start learning Chinese, since they'll be the global power in a few years (months?) if Mitch gets his SC appointment.
 
2020-09-19 7:56:48 AM  

Hand Banana: Why can't Mitch McConnell just die? That piece of shiat has been screwing up our country for nearly years, enough already.


This whole thing is just another sad example of how there is no karmic justice or fairness in this world.  We have a damn pandemic of a fatal disease going on, with these chucklefarks flouting the safety rules on top of that.  Many of these guys are super old and in poor health.  Yet not a single major player among these guys has gotten even a bad case of it (Herman Cane doesn't count).  Meanwhile we lose RBG, John Lewis, and a long list of artists and entertainers who where positive contributors to society.
While Trump and his people have had a tremendous political advantage, they've also been lucky at every turn since the 2016 election.  They've gone through scandal after scandal with no real consequence. Surely they would fark up so bad at least one of these times there would be some real repercussions.  Nope.  Endless bad results, no karmic balance.
Anyway.  I just needed to rant a little.  The situation sucks and will continue to get worse for the foreseeable future.  I plan on voting and giving to various charities and democratic campaigns in the meantime. I'm going to continue to try to look for a bright side to this situation, but its been real hard.
 
2020-09-19 7:57:02 AM  

danvon: Alphax: danvon: MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???

I saw Murkowsky say that, who was the other one? As far as I know, the VP would be a tie breaker.

Another thread said Mitt Romney.. and a couple others.  Perhaps even Lindsey Graham.. which sounds like a long shot, but he may be desperate enough to keep his 'job'.

As stupid as this may sound, there is an outside chance that this might be too egregious even for Collins.


Not likely.  She needs every underhanded trick she can find to hold onto her seat.  Seating a new Justice would allow her to question the validity of the election and do just that.
 
2020-09-19 7:57:18 AM  

Chariset: willwall: They can get the best of both worlds by waiting until the election

But Trump has the patience and attention span of a toddler, plus he's almost certainly going to use the Court to contest the election results.  He wants a person in that seat NOW, so that he 'knows' that person will support him


Individual senators have the power here. If 4 senators decide that they won't confirm and stand firm it doesn't matter what McConnell and Trump want. McConnell is throwing up trial balloons. He'll back down if he has to.

My guess is they milk it for all it's worth, Trump spends a bunch of time talking about it on the trail, he floats names for weeks getting news cycles and he appoints someone on the eve of the election to get a big announcement. At risk senators use the election as an excuse but are careful to make it sound it's because of how busy they are and how it needs their full attention. If they lose they can then say that they are able to focus during the lame duck session and vote to confirm.
 
2020-09-19 7:57:35 AM  

twat_waffle: Alphax: danvon: MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???

I saw Murkowsky say that, who was the other one? As far as I know, the VP would be a tie breaker.

Another thread said Mitt Romney.. and a couple others.  Perhaps even Lindsey Graham.. which sounds like a long shot, but he may be desperate enough to keep his 'job'.

Gardner and Collins would probably defect out of self-preservation, too.

After the election, though? All bets are off. The Democrats would be wise to kidnap three or four Republican senators, stash them someplace safe and disconnected from the outside world, and then stay in their states until January 3rd.


If there are defectors, they will come from Romney, Murkowski (she's already said she won't vote for a nominee that is rammed through at this late date), Gardner, and who the fark knows about Collins.

One other nugget to keep in mind. Since Mark Kelly and McSally are a special election, the winner can be sworn in almost immediately. They don't have to wait until January.
 
2020-09-19 7:57:37 AM  

MattytheMouse: qorkfiend: MattytheMouse: qorkfiend: MattytheMouse: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Can we stop saying this as if the guy was voted into office, and instead be petty and biatchy over the fact that our electoral system works like a goddamn game of Quidditch?

Were we unaware of the system last time? No? Then we don't get to biatch about the rules now.

Uh, yeah, we should biatch about the rules. Now more than ever, in fact. 'Cause they're bad rules and I've had two presidents in my lifetime win by losing. This last time, by a pretty significant margin!

Great. And?

Was that possibility some sort of unknown? No, but the "protest voters" did their thing anyway and now we get to suffer the consequences? Cool.

Personally, I think it's more constructive to biatch about the system that allows somebody to win by losing by three million votes, than sniping at individuals that apparently didn't vote right, but that's just my opinion, I guess.


And again, was it an unknown that the system could produce such a result? The rules weren't changed on you. You knew what they were and decided to risk a Trump presidency and all that entailed. Well, here you go.
 
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