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2020-09-18 9:55:11 PM  
So how's that protest vote working out for you?
 
2020-09-18 10:05:43 PM  
Yeah, no shiat.
 
2020-09-18 10:12:58 PM  
I hope they nominate the biggest anti-abortion/anti-woman/anti-gay/anti​-American asshole they can find.  Another Kavanaugh.  Rip open the national psyche right before the election.
 
2020-09-18 10:13:02 PM  
'Murica.
 
2020-09-18 10:17:34 PM  
Did anybody actually expect him to not be a hypocrite about this? The dude has the moral fortitude of a wet noodle.
 
2020-09-18 10:57:23 PM  
You can't use a news flash tag, subby, for something that everyone knew 5 years ago
 
2020-09-19 12:52:30 AM  
It remains unclear whether Republicans would have the votes to make a new appointment before Nov. 3.

Oh they'll have the votes. The entire election hinges on prematurely declaring Trump the winner. They'll call all The Families in for every Favor.
 
2020-09-19 1:01:14 AM  

Leishu: Did anybody actually expect him to not be a hypocrite about this? The dude has the moral fortitude of a wet noodle.


It's a reminder, as if we needed one, that everything conservatives do is for their own power and benefit.

And when they try to take a moral stand, they can be told to go fark themselves in no uncertain terms.


And when they biatch and moan and call you uncivil, you laugh at them, and then again tell them to go fark themselves.
 
2020-09-19 1:37:49 AM  
No shiat. Motherfarkers need to vote their asses off and remove as many Republicans as possible in November. Make the margins too damn big to fudge.

Then, write and pass a new Judiciary Act to increase the entire Judicial Branch and add justices on every single farking level to neutralize the ratfarking that McConnell has engineered.
 
2020-09-19 1:50:49 AM  
The day that farking ghoul draws his last breath should become a national holiday.

Fark you, Mitch.
 
2020-09-19 1:54:23 AM  
All they've been doing is rubber stamping Conservative Dupe judges onto benches across the country. Cocaine Mitch no doubt can just upgrade one of those to the nom. Fark him, fark Trump, fark the GOP and fark 2020.

/ shiatty year can't stop shiatting.
 
2020-09-19 2:02:22 AM  
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2020-09-19 2:04:22 AM  
Can't win a contested election if you don't own the courts.
 
2020-09-19 2:25:26 AM  
Obviously. Because nothing a republican ever says is in good faith or rooted to anything.

They simply want power and a trump dictatorship.

F*ck em.
 
2020-09-19 2:31:59 AM  
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2020-09-19 2:43:21 AM  
Wouldn't holding on to the pick after the election make more sense?  If they fill the spot now, that would energize the left and really do nothing for turning out their own voters.  If they wait, that might even convince some of these Lincoln Project and Never Trumpers to turn out and vote for him.  Worst case scenario for them and the Dems sweep the House, Senate, and White House, they can still ram their pick I'm calling Brett Kavanaugh 2:Rapier Doosh Bro through during the lame duck session.

I don't think they will, though, as Yertle and Fat Turd have the guile and cunning of a wet sponge.
 
2020-09-19 3:02:23 AM  
LordBeavis:

as Yertle and Fat Turd have the guile and cunning of a wet sponge.

I despise the son of a biatch, but if Mitch has the guile and cunning of a wet sponge, how can you possibly come up with a comparison point lowly enough for where Democrats rank in that regard?
 
2020-09-19 3:18:10 AM  
They would be smart to wait until after the election. There may be a few R senators that would be hesitant to rubber stamp some Trump lunatic with an election in six weeks.

After the election it won't matter. Either they won and are in for another six years, or they lost and they're out and they'll be happy to burn the place down on the way out.
 
2020-09-19 3:39:07 AM  
Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.
 
vpb
2020-09-19 3:55:35 AM  

EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.


Expand the size of the SC and pack the court.
 
2020-09-19 4:28:23 AM  
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2020-09-19 5:44:42 AM  
"Oh, that thing before? That was an Obama rule. It doesn't count for us."
 
2020-09-19 6:02:03 AM  
They're going to nominate Merrick Garland?
 
2020-09-19 6:09:12 AM  

Alphax: [Fark user image image 850x443]


Barr cannot be on the SCOTUS if convicted and in prison.

/I think positively most times.
 
2020-09-19 6:37:24 AM  
Yesterday was for being upset. Today is  for action and going forward.  Same as it ever was.
 
2020-09-19 6:55:39 AM  
See:  Dems need to pack the Supreme Court thread.

The Presidency is favored for Biden, the Senate could go either way.

Give to Senate battleground states and we could see this:

2 states added (DC and Puerto Rico), so 4 more democratic senate seats.   Plus the GOP having another brutal election there in 2022 when they are defending more than twice as many seats.

And then move the number of SCOTUS justices to match the number of US circuit courts, which is 13.   That rationale has been used a couple of times in the past to change the number of justices.
 
2020-09-19 6:57:05 AM  
The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.
 
2020-09-19 6:57:49 AM  

hubiestubert: "Oh, that thing before? That was an Obama rule. It doesn't count for us."


"See, that was an election year.  This is a 'reelection' year.  Totally different!"
 
2020-09-19 6:58:46 AM  
People keep saying this is the "runup to an election"

The election has already started.  People are voting in some states already.

So McConnell isn't doing this "before an election", he's doing it while votes are being cast
 
2020-09-19 6:58:52 AM  

EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.


You don't understand, Hillary didn't inspire me!
 
2020-09-19 6:59:43 AM  
Is there any person on this Earth who thought, even for an instant, that the Republican party would be intellectually honest?
 
2020-09-19 6:59:50 AM  

danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.


Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???
 
2020-09-19 7:03:21 AM  

MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???


I saw Murkowsky say that, who was the other one? As far as I know, the VP would be a tie breaker.
 
2020-09-19 7:03:46 AM  
Traitorous piece of shiat says what?
 
2020-09-19 7:06:06 AM  
15 minutes into the confirmation hearing:
Dem Senator: "Ms Pirro, are you drunk right now?"
Pirro: "Thisch ish juscht a partishun attempt to show dishcord in the judsh-judicial prochesh."
 
2020-09-19 7:06:28 AM  

danvon: MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???

I saw Murkowsky say that, who was the other one? As far as I know, the VP would be a tie breaker.


Romney.
 
2020-09-19 7:07:03 AM  

LordBeavis: Wouldn't holding on to the pick after the election make more sense?  If they fill the spot now, that would energize the left and really do nothing for turning out their own voters.  If they wait, that might even convince some of these Lincoln Project and Never Trumpers to turn out and vote for him.  Worst case scenario for them and the Dems sweep the House, Senate, and White House, they can still ram their pick I'm calling Brett Kavanaugh 2:Rapier Doosh Bro through during the lame duck session.

I don't think they will, though, as Yertle and Fat Turd have the guile and cunning of a wet sponge.


A presidential election really only has a 4 or 8 year effect. The Supreme Court appointment last an entire generation. Don't think that Mitch McConnell hasn't already done the math on this and decided that Trump is on his way out anyway.

The GOP isn't concerned with good governance , they are and they will always be about enriching themselves at your expense.
 
2020-09-19 7:08:26 AM  

danvon: MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???

I saw Murkowsky say that, who was the other one? As far as I know, the VP would be a tie breaker.


Another thread said Mitt Romney.. and a couple others.  Perhaps even Lindsey Graham.. which sounds like a long shot, but he may be desperate enough to keep his 'job'.
 
2020-09-19 7:10:36 AM  
Looks like States 51 and 52 are a go, along with +3 to the court.
 
2020-09-19 7:11:31 AM  
"Checkmate!" - Deplorables

/2020 sucks
 
2020-09-19 7:12:18 AM  

Alphax: danvon: MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???

I saw Murkowsky say that, who was the other one? As far as I know, the VP would be a tie breaker.

Another thread said Mitt Romney.. and a couple others.  Perhaps even Lindsey Graham.. which sounds like a long shot, but he may be desperate enough to keep his 'job'.


As stupid as this may sound, there is an outside chance that this might be too egregious even for Collins.
 
2020-09-19 7:13:15 AM  
Merrick Garland or no one.
 
2020-09-19 7:13:41 AM  

EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.


Stupid won a long time ago, now it's just showing off.
 
2020-09-19 7:14:50 AM  
There are single issue voters for Trump. He gets another anti abortion vote on the SCOTUS, they may feel that he has nothing more to offer them. They might just stay home.

On the other hand, some might be more energized to vote.

We'll know for sure in six weeks or so.
 
2020-09-19 7:15:05 AM  

Alphax: danvon: MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???

I saw Murkowsky say that, who was the other one? As far as I know, the VP would be a tie breaker.

Another thread said Mitt Romney.. and a couple others.  Perhaps even Lindsey Graham.. which sounds like a long shot, but he may be desperate enough to keep his 'job'.


Gardner and Collins would probably defect out of self-preservation, too.

After the election, though? All bets are off. The Democrats would be wise to kidnap three or four Republican senators, stash them someplace safe and disconnected from the outside world, and then stay in their states until January 3rd.
 
2020-09-19 7:15:42 AM  
They will confirm a total asshole to fill her seat and they will feel no shame about it.
 
2020-09-19 7:16:14 AM  
A Romney aide said that he wouldn't vote on a new SC justice. I hope that's correct.
 
2020-09-19 7:16:23 AM  

mrwknd: Merrick Garland or no one.


You got Trump to agree to nominate him, McConnell to agree to put him on the schedule, and enough Republican votes for confirmation? Impressive
 
2020-09-19 7:17:24 AM  
This is McConnell's dream. He won't even care if he loses control of the Senate if he gets another SC seat.
 
2020-09-19 7:17:38 AM  

mrwknd: Merrick Garland or no one.


Fark that. Merrick Garland was a sensible moderate, an olive branch to the Republicans saying "we're not going to replace Scalia with a total liberal." They didn't take the olive branch then, they shouldn't get it now. If Ginsburg gets replaced with a boring-ass swing-vote moderate, it will be a disgrace.
 
2020-09-19 7:18:17 AM  
Mitch McConnell is filth, and always has been.

History always talk about the Hitlers and Stalin's of the world, the evil dictators who rule with an iron fist, and hold contempt for any rules or restrictions that would restrain them. It rarely remembers the wormtounges of the world, like McConnell, who enabled them, but they are every bit as dangerous and contemptible as their masters.
 
2020-09-19 7:18:33 AM  
Stephen Miller is getting the nomination

Or Ivanka.  Or Jared.

Book it. Done.
 
2020-09-19 7:21:56 AM  

NobleHam: mrwknd: Merrick Garland or no one.

Fark that. Merrick Garland was a sensible moderate, an olive branch to the Republicans saying "we're not going to replace Scalia with a total liberal." They didn't take the olive branch then, they shouldn't get it now. If Ginsburg gets replaced with a boring-ass swing-vote moderate, it will be a disgrace.


If Ginsburg ends up replaced with a boring-ass moderate instead of a fascist conservative it will be a stunning victory
 
2020-09-19 7:22:02 AM  
Rally 'round the [Turtle soup for my] family, with a pocket fulla shells.
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2020-09-19 7:22:46 AM  

koder: It remains unclear whether Republicans would have the votes to make a new appointment before Nov. 3.

Oh they'll have the votes. The entire election hinges on prematurely declaring Trump the winner. They'll call all The Families in for every Favor.


They don't want to fill it before the election.
Trump's only hope is everyone who supports him turns out. The best way to turn out evangelicals is to have that open seat in jeopardy.

They can get the best of both worlds by waiting until the election. If they win they can say they were being honorable and letting the people choose. If they lose they can pass a judge through a lame duck session and have avoided a lot of the fallout during the campaign
 
2020-09-19 7:24:28 AM  
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It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.
 
2020-09-19 7:26:23 AM  
I hear this guy isn't doing much of anything at the moment.

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2020-09-19 7:27:10 AM  
Man. I'm upset that the thread where we discussed throwing soup at McConnell didn't go green.
 
2020-09-19 7:29:03 AM  

willwall: They don't want to fill it before the election.


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They are tripping over each other trying to find their seats so they can fill it in record time.  Conservative majority over SCOTUS means they will never need to worry about an election ever again, as they can challenge any result and have the court rule in their favor every time.
 
2020-09-19 7:29:24 AM  

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?


Who are you talking to, exactly? Jill Stein voters?
 
2020-09-19 7:30:29 AM  
Why can't Mitch McConnell just die? That piece of shiat has been screwing up our country for nearly years, enough already.
 
2020-09-19 7:30:31 AM  

MattytheMouse: Man. I'm upset that the thread where we discussed throwing soup at McConnell didn't go green.


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2020-09-19 7:31:03 AM  
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2020-09-19 7:31:24 AM  

koder: It remains unclear whether Republicans would have the votes to make a new appointment before Nov. 3.

Oh they'll have the votes. The entire election hinges on prematurely declaring Trump the winner. They'll call all The Families in for every Favor.


They'll call all of the families in to show them all of the dirt they have on them.
 
2020-09-19 7:31:35 AM  

Hand Banana: Why can't Mitch McConnell just die? That piece of shiat has been screwing up our country for nearly years, enough already.


The miserable live forever
 
2020-09-19 7:31:40 AM  
To: McConnell, Mitch

Message: FARK YOU! Strongly worded letter to follow

END
 
2020-09-19 7:31:46 AM  

MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???


Counterpoint: Manchin
 
2020-09-19 7:32:18 AM  

Morning Horsefarts: Conservative majority over SCOTUS means they will never need to worry about an election ever again, as they can challenge any result and have the court rule in their favor every time.


The exciting part comes after that, when the shooting starts.

/it's gonna be a shiat show!
 
2020-09-19 7:33:26 AM  

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?


Can we stop saying this as if the guy was voted into office, and instead be petty and biatchy over the fact that our electoral system works like a goddamn game of Quidditch?
 
2020-09-19 7:34:16 AM  

Purple_Urkle: MattytheMouse: Man. I'm upset that the thread where we discussed throwing soup at McConnell didn't go green.

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2020-09-19 7:34:49 AM  

MattytheMouse: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Can we stop saying this as if the guy was voted into office, and instead be petty and biatchy over the fact that our electoral system works like a goddamn game of Quidditch?


Were we unaware of the system last time? No? Then we don't get to biatch about the rules now.
 
2020-09-19 7:34:55 AM  

willwall: They can get the best of both worlds by waiting until the election


But Trump has the patience and attention span of a toddler, plus he's almost certainly going to use the Court to contest the election results.  He wants a person in that seat NOW, so that he 'knows' that person will support him
 
2020-09-19 7:35:36 AM  

danvon: As stupid as this may sound, there is an outside chance that this might be too egregious even for Collins.


She is going to REALLY furrow her brow and say she is beyond concerned, nay disgusted that she is today having to cast her vote to confirm Justice Cruz, and it really must never happen again.
 
2020-09-19 7:35:38 AM  

andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.


Kavanaugh
Nominated: 7/9/18
Confirmed: 10/6/18
 
2020-09-19 7:36:46 AM  

qorkfiend: MattytheMouse: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Can we stop saying this as if the guy was voted into office, and instead be petty and biatchy over the fact that our electoral system works like a goddamn game of Quidditch?

Were we unaware of the system last time? No? Then we don't get to biatch about the rules now.


Uh, yeah, we should biatch about the rules. Now more than ever, in fact. 'Cause they're bad rules and I've had two presidents in my lifetime win by losing. This last time, by a pretty significant margin!
 
2020-09-19 7:37:35 AM  

Hand Banana: Why can't Mitch McConnell just die? That piece of shiat has been screwing up our country for nearly

40 years, enough already.
 
2020-09-19 7:38:37 AM  

MattytheMouse: qorkfiend: MattytheMouse: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Can we stop saying this as if the guy was voted into office, and instead be petty and biatchy over the fact that our electoral system works like a goddamn game of Quidditch?

Were we unaware of the system last time? No? Then we don't get to biatch about the rules now.

Uh, yeah, we should biatch about the rules. Now more than ever, in fact. 'Cause they're bad rules and I've had two presidents in my lifetime win by losing. This last time, by a pretty significant margin!


Great. And?

Was that possibility some sort of unknown? No, but the "protest voters" did their thing anyway and now we get to suffer the consequences? Cool.
 
2020-09-19 7:40:47 AM  
I wanna punch this guy right in his turkey neck throat every time I see him
 
2020-09-19 7:41:14 AM  

Morning Horsefarts: willwall: They don't want to fill it before the election.

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They are tripping over each other trying to find their seats so they can fill it in record time.  Conservative majority over SCOTUS means they will never need to worry about an election ever again, as they can challenge any result and have the court rule in their favor every time.


Filling it before the election takes it off the table.

There's the possibility evangelicals decide that they got what they wanted and don't show up in numbers. There's also the possibility that senators in tight races would be hurt by it. Look at Collins she's paying for kavanaugh right now. Another vote for a pro life judge and she's buried. There's several senators that would rather not have a decision and would rather run on filling an open seat. Finally I can't possibly think of a better way to galvanize the Democratic party than a new sc justice a couple weeks before the election. Anger is a powerful force.

Almost all of this is avoided by just waiting for the lame duck session.
 
2020-09-19 7:42:20 AM  
No shiat, subby.
 
2020-09-19 7:43:57 AM  

NobleHam: mrwknd: Merrick Garland or no one.

Fark that. Merrick Garland was a sensible moderate, an olive branch to the Republicans saying "we're not going to replace Scalia with a total liberal." They didn't take the olive branch then, they shouldn't get it now. If Ginsburg gets replaced with a boring-ass swing-vote moderate, it will be a disgrace.


Ginsburg will now be replaced with a barely literate, conspiracy spouting Trump fundraiser instead.
 
2020-09-19 7:44:05 AM  
This is the endgame, just a few more weeks until we find out if this country has finished it's 245 year run. If Trump is allowed to stick another boot-licking conservative on the Supreme Court and then wins another term it's all over. Go vote like your lives depend on it.
 
2020-09-19 7:44:56 AM  

qorkfiend: Were we unaware of the system last time? No? Then we don't get to biatch about the rules now.


But the rules are objectively bad. We should be biatching about them perpetually. They're bad.
 
2020-09-19 7:46:24 AM  

qorkfiend: MattytheMouse: qorkfiend: MattytheMouse: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Can we stop saying this as if the guy was voted into office, and instead be petty and biatchy over the fact that our electoral system works like a goddamn game of Quidditch?

Were we unaware of the system last time? No? Then we don't get to biatch about the rules now.

Uh, yeah, we should biatch about the rules. Now more than ever, in fact. 'Cause they're bad rules and I've had two presidents in my lifetime win by losing. This last time, by a pretty significant margin!

Great. And?

Was that possibility some sort of unknown? No, but the "protest voters" did their thing anyway and now we get to suffer the consequences? Cool.


Personally, I think it's more constructive to biatch about the system that allows somebody to win by losing by three million votes, than sniping at individuals that apparently didn't vote right, but that's just my opinion, I guess.
 
2020-09-19 7:49:37 AM  

vpb: EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.

Expand the size of the SC and pack the court.


None of which is possible now.  There is no path that allows that to happen.
Biden can't win the election now, and McConnell will guarantee that.  He will have someone on that bench by next week.
 
2020-09-19 7:49:40 AM  
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2020-09-19 7:49:48 AM  

RanHakubi: To: McConnell, Mitch

Message: FARK YOU! Strongly worded letter to follow

END


Part of me, just a small part, hopes that someone out there is thinking "Fark you. Fast moving projectile to follow."  Why does God take the good ones and leave the total assholes?
 
2020-09-19 7:50:16 AM  

t3knomanser: qorkfiend: Were we unaware of the system last time? No? Then we don't get to biatch about the rules now.

But the rules are objectively bad. We should be biatching about them perpetually. They're bad.


Like, yeah. We should be biatching about them, 'cause those rules are the only way this guy got elected in the first places, and it's the only way he faces reelection. It's not that people are voting wrong. It's that this is a big oopsie for democracy.
 
2020-09-19 7:51:04 AM  
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2020-09-19 7:51:40 AM  

LordBeavis: Wouldn't holding on to the pick after the election make more sense?  If they fill the spot now, that would energize the left and really do nothing for turning out their own voters.  If they wait, that might even convince some of these Lincoln Project and Never Trumpers to turn out and vote for him.  Worst case scenario for them and the Dems sweep the House, Senate, and White House, they can still ram their pick I'm calling Brett Kavanaugh 2:Rapier Doosh Bro through during the lame duck session.

I don't think they will, though, as Yertle and Fat Turd have the guile and cunning of a wet sponge.


They want that overwhelming majority on the SCOTUS to make sure that they win. They need them to rubber stamp every underhanded and illegal thing they pull to do so.

They will do everything they can to hold onto power.  Note what I said, power.

They've given up any actual pretense of governing anymore.
 
2020-09-19 7:52:20 AM  

Hand Banana: Why can't Mitch McConnell just die? That piece of shiat has been screwing up our country for nearly years, enough already.


In the immortal words of Mike Patton:  "shiat lives forever."
 
2020-09-19 7:52:24 AM  

willwall: koder: It remains unclear whether Republicans would have the votes to make a new appointment before Nov. 3.

Oh they'll have the votes. The entire election hinges on prematurely declaring Trump the winner. They'll call all The Families in for every Favor.

They don't want to fill it before the election.
Trump's only hope is everyone who supports him turns out. The best way to turn out evangelicals is to have that open seat in jeopardy.

They can get the best of both worlds by waiting until the election. If they win they can say they were being honorable and letting the people choose. If they lose they can pass a judge through a lame duck session and have avoided a lot of the fallout during the campaign


They can't guarantee the election win without having someone in that seat.
 
2020-09-19 7:53:49 AM  

JimmyTheHutt: vpb: EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.

Expand the size of the SC and pack the court.

None of which is possible now.  There is no path that allows that to happen.
Biden can't win the election now, and McConnell will guarantee that.  He will have someone on that bench by next week.


This is my biggest fear. McConnell pulls every favor, makes every empty promise, all hinging on "if you just fall in one last time, with this SC appointment we can steal the election, and then we will be in a position to never lose power again". And it will probably work, and with that the Republic as we know it will be well and truly over.
 
2020-09-19 7:55:01 AM  
Republicans are about as pro-life as Satan and Hitler.  Also, serial killers.  Them and serial killers and child rapists.

For some reason, people in this country think if you're a superstitious dimwit, that somehow you're a good person.  Nothing could be further from the truth.
 
2020-09-19 7:55:40 AM  

kyuzokai: JimmyTheHutt: vpb: EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.

Expand the size of the SC and pack the court.

None of which is possible now.  There is no path that allows that to happen.
Biden can't win the election now, and McConnell will guarantee that.  He will have someone on that bench by next week.

This is my biggest fear. McConnell pulls every favor, makes every empty promise, all hinging on "if you just fall in one last time, with this SC appointment we can steal the election, and then we will be in a position to never lose power again". And it will probably work, and with that the Republic as we know it will be well and truly over.


postscript... we all might wanna start learning Chinese, since they'll be the global power in a few years (months?) if Mitch gets his SC appointment.
 
2020-09-19 7:56:48 AM  

Hand Banana: Why can't Mitch McConnell just die? That piece of shiat has been screwing up our country for nearly years, enough already.


This whole thing is just another sad example of how there is no karmic justice or fairness in this world.  We have a damn pandemic of a fatal disease going on, with these chucklefarks flouting the safety rules on top of that.  Many of these guys are super old and in poor health.  Yet not a single major player among these guys has gotten even a bad case of it (Herman Cane doesn't count).  Meanwhile we lose RBG, John Lewis, and a long list of artists and entertainers who where positive contributors to society.
While Trump and his people have had a tremendous political advantage, they've also been lucky at every turn since the 2016 election.  They've gone through scandal after scandal with no real consequence. Surely they would fark up so bad at least one of these times there would be some real repercussions.  Nope.  Endless bad results, no karmic balance.
Anyway.  I just needed to rant a little.  The situation sucks and will continue to get worse for the foreseeable future.  I plan on voting and giving to various charities and democratic campaigns in the meantime. I'm going to continue to try to look for a bright side to this situation, but its been real hard.
 
2020-09-19 7:57:02 AM  

danvon: Alphax: danvon: MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???

I saw Murkowsky say that, who was the other one? As far as I know, the VP would be a tie breaker.

Another thread said Mitt Romney.. and a couple others.  Perhaps even Lindsey Graham.. which sounds like a long shot, but he may be desperate enough to keep his 'job'.

As stupid as this may sound, there is an outside chance that this might be too egregious even for Collins.


Not likely.  She needs every underhanded trick she can find to hold onto her seat.  Seating a new Justice would allow her to question the validity of the election and do just that.
 
2020-09-19 7:57:18 AM  

Chariset: willwall: They can get the best of both worlds by waiting until the election

But Trump has the patience and attention span of a toddler, plus he's almost certainly going to use the Court to contest the election results.  He wants a person in that seat NOW, so that he 'knows' that person will support him


Individual senators have the power here. If 4 senators decide that they won't confirm and stand firm it doesn't matter what McConnell and Trump want. McConnell is throwing up trial balloons. He'll back down if he has to.

My guess is they milk it for all it's worth, Trump spends a bunch of time talking about it on the trail, he floats names for weeks getting news cycles and he appoints someone on the eve of the election to get a big announcement. At risk senators use the election as an excuse but are careful to make it sound it's because of how busy they are and how it needs their full attention. If they lose they can then say that they are able to focus during the lame duck session and vote to confirm.
 
2020-09-19 7:57:35 AM  

twat_waffle: Alphax: danvon: MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???

I saw Murkowsky say that, who was the other one? As far as I know, the VP would be a tie breaker.

Another thread said Mitt Romney.. and a couple others.  Perhaps even Lindsey Graham.. which sounds like a long shot, but he may be desperate enough to keep his 'job'.

Gardner and Collins would probably defect out of self-preservation, too.

After the election, though? All bets are off. The Democrats would be wise to kidnap three or four Republican senators, stash them someplace safe and disconnected from the outside world, and then stay in their states until January 3rd.


If there are defectors, they will come from Romney, Murkowski (she's already said she won't vote for a nominee that is rammed through at this late date), Gardner, and who the fark knows about Collins.

One other nugget to keep in mind. Since Mark Kelly and McSally are a special election, the winner can be sworn in almost immediately. They don't have to wait until January.
 
2020-09-19 7:57:37 AM  

MattytheMouse: qorkfiend: MattytheMouse: qorkfiend: MattytheMouse: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Can we stop saying this as if the guy was voted into office, and instead be petty and biatchy over the fact that our electoral system works like a goddamn game of Quidditch?

Were we unaware of the system last time? No? Then we don't get to biatch about the rules now.

Uh, yeah, we should biatch about the rules. Now more than ever, in fact. 'Cause they're bad rules and I've had two presidents in my lifetime win by losing. This last time, by a pretty significant margin!

Great. And?

Was that possibility some sort of unknown? No, but the "protest voters" did their thing anyway and now we get to suffer the consequences? Cool.

Personally, I think it's more constructive to biatch about the system that allows somebody to win by losing by three million votes, than sniping at individuals that apparently didn't vote right, but that's just my opinion, I guess.


And again, was it an unknown that the system could produce such a result? The rules weren't changed on you. You knew what they were and decided to risk a Trump presidency and all that entailed. Well, here you go.
 
2020-09-19 7:57:59 AM  
just from a pure "business" sense why would you not want to fill the position. if a store manager dies you don't wait months to fill the position, CEO passes away you don't wait months to fill the position, pretty much all jobs you fill the position


Now you don't make a public statement the same day as that persons death but behind the scenes you do start planning. 

that being said, ugh this is going to be ugly
 
2020-09-19 7:58:17 AM  

Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Kavanaugh
Nominated: 7/9/18
Confirmed: 10/6/18


So does that...

Does that mean you're agreeing with me that since it's 106 days until a new Congress & they delayed the Kavanaugh confirmation ny 90 days, if she had died a couple weeks later, they could have delayed it a similar amount of time?

Or does that mean you think they can delay it longer, like they did for Thomas, at 99 days, & that they'll be able to push that to 106 days?

Or... you're not suggesting that 90 days is less than 45 days, right?
 
2020-09-19 7:58:28 AM  

MattytheMouse: qorkfiend: MattytheMouse: qorkfiend: MattytheMouse: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Can we stop saying this as if the guy was voted into office, and instead be petty and biatchy over the fact that our electoral system works like a goddamn game of Quidditch?

Were we unaware of the system last time? No? Then we don't get to biatch about the rules now.

Uh, yeah, we should biatch about the rules. Now more than ever, in fact. 'Cause they're bad rules and I've had two presidents in my lifetime win by losing. This last time, by a pretty significant margin!

Great. And?

Was that possibility some sort of unknown? No, but the "protest voters" did their thing anyway and now we get to suffer the consequences? Cool.

Personally, I think it's more constructive to biatch about the system that allows somebody to win by losing by three million votes, than sniping at individuals that apparently didn't vote right, but that's just my opinion, I guess.


Why not both?

The system is awful and should. It work that way.

Anyone in 2016 who did not process that refusing to support the lesser of two evils means you support the greater if two evils deserves the current environment.
 
2020-09-19 7:58:41 AM  

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?


If women actually cared about their reproductive rights, Republicans would never hold office again.
 
2020-09-19 7:59:26 AM  

MattytheMouse: t3knomanser: qorkfiend: Were we unaware of the system last time? No? Then we don't get to biatch about the rules now.

But the rules are objectively bad. We should be biatching about them perpetually. They're bad.

Like, yeah. We should be biatching about them, 'cause those rules are the only way this guy got elected in the first places, and it's the only way he faces reelection. It's not that people are voting wrong. It's that this is a big oopsie for democracy.


Actually it is that they're voting wrong when they fail to take into consideration the rules that have governed the system for close to two centuries
 
2020-09-19 8:00:21 AM  
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lol I never wanna get shiat for politicizing a death ever again.
 
2020-09-19 8:02:11 AM  

Gubbo: Leishu: Did anybody actually expect him to not be a hypocrite about this? The dude has the moral fortitude of a wet noodle.

It's a reminder, as if we needed one, that everything conservatives do is for their own power and benefit.

And when they try to take a moral stand, they can be told to go fark themselves in no uncertain terms.


And when they biatch and moan and call you uncivil, you laugh at them, and then again tell them to go fark themselves.


B...but Democrats can't tell them to fark themselves, that wouldn't be going high!
The Alt-Right Playbook: You Go High, We Go Low
Youtube MAbab8aP4_A
 
2020-09-19 8:03:00 AM  

Naido: LordBeavis:

as Yertle and Fat Turd have the guile and cunning of a wet sponge.

I despise the son of a biatch, but if Mitch has the guile and cunning of a wet sponge, how can you possibly come up with a comparison point lowly enough for where Democrats rank in that regard?


Hillary Clinton!
 
2020-09-19 8:03:41 AM  

Lexx0001: There are single issue voters for Trump. He gets another anti abortion vote on the SCOTUS, they may feel that he has nothing more to offer them. They might just stay home.

On the other hand, some might be more energized to vote.

We'll know for sure in six weeks or so.


Today, I learned my primary care doctor is a single issue anti-abortion voter who thinks socialized medicine is bad for everyone.
 
2020-09-19 8:04:19 AM  

NobleHam: mrwknd: Merrick Garland or no one.

Fark that. Merrick Garland was a sensible moderate, an olive branch to the Republicans saying "we're not going to replace Scalia with a total liberal." They didn't take the olive branch then, they shouldn't get it now. If Ginsburg gets replaced with a boring-ass swing-vote moderate, it will be a disgrace.


You, good Sir, are entirely correct.
 
2020-09-19 8:04:21 AM  

EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.


Nothing, as long as you think "the law" is more important than defeating fascism.
 
2020-09-19 8:04:34 AM  

NobleHam: mrwknd: Merrick Garland or no one.

Fark that. ... If Ginsburg gets replaced with a boring-ass swing-vote moderate, it will be a disgrace.


The issue, though, is that the Enemy will not try to replace her with a "boring-ass moderate", but with a full on Trumpist, probably someone egregious enough to argue that the 22nd Amendment doesn't apply to Trump.

Of course this is going to be a national disgrace; the Enemy doesn't care. Unless you can literally imprison the entire Republican national caucus, milquetoast is the best option, with open treason far more likely.
 
2020-09-19 8:04:52 AM  
The loss of RBG is huge in a multitude of ways. She'd have been tough to replace in quality even if the libbiest libs controlled every aspect of the government. She was a unique and rare person. Her kind does come along often.

The fact that she'll be replaced by some unqualified gop stooge, a trump stooge no less, really is tough. We've got trump appointees who are literally illegally occupying the position and nothing is done. The jokes about Falwell aren't that funny because they'll probably try to get the same type. We've plenty of evidence they don't even care about finding qualified people to fill roles.

America deserves better than what they're going to give us. Even pigfarking trump voters deserve better even if I don't care if they're eventually farked over by all this too. A group of the most disingenuous, corrupt, unethical pieces of garbage are going to put the same on the bench and then try to run our lives. No sane person should be ok with this.
 
2020-09-19 8:06:15 AM  

JimmyTheHutt: willwall: koder: It remains unclear whether Republicans would have the votes to make a new appointment before Nov. 3.

Oh they'll have the votes. The entire election hinges on prematurely declaring Trump the winner. They'll call all The Families in for every Favor.

They don't want to fill it before the election.
Trump's only hope is everyone who supports him turns out. The best way to turn out evangelicals is to have that open seat in jeopardy.

They can get the best of both worlds by waiting until the election. If they win they can say they were being honorable and letting the people choose. If they lose they can pass a judge through a lame duck session and have avoided a lot of the fallout during the campaign

They can't guarantee the election win without having someone in that seat.


They have a 5-3 majority right now. 2 being Trump appointments, thomas having voted for bush v gore and roberts and alito having been appointed by the guy who won it.

They don't need the extra vote, and their other efforts to disrupt the election are more likely to swing it well before it gets to the SC.
 
2020-09-19 8:06:36 AM  

andrewagill: Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Kavanaugh
Nominated: 7/9/18
Confirmed: 10/6/18

So does that...

Does that mean you're agreeing with me that since it's 106 days until a new Congress & they delayed the Kavanaugh confirmation ny 90 days, if she had died a couple weeks later, they could have delayed it a similar amount of time?

Or does that mean you think they can delay it longer, like they did for Thomas, at 99 days, & that they'll be able to push that to 106 days?

Or... you're not suggesting that 90 days is less than 45 days, right?


I thought it might be comforting to know that even the most recent guy took almost 3 months to confirm. People keep saying McConnell will have this done within a week, but the process definitely takes way longer than that, unless there's some special legislative power he's hiding up his sleeve.
 
2020-09-19 8:09:16 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: twat_waffle: Alphax: danvon: MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???

I saw Murkowsky say that, who was the other one? As far as I know, the VP would be a tie breaker.

Another thread said Mitt Romney.. and a couple others.  Perhaps even Lindsey Graham.. which sounds like a long shot, but he may be desperate enough to keep his 'job'.

Gardner and Collins would probably defect out of self-preservation, too.

After the election, though? All bets are off. The Democrats would be wise to kidnap three or four Republican senators, stash them someplace safe and disconnected from the outside world, and then stay in their states until January 3rd.

If there are defectors, they will come from Romney, Murkowski (she's already said she won't vote for a nominee that is rammed through at this late date), Gardner, and who the fark knows about Collins.

One other nugget to keep in mind. Since Mark Kelly and McSally are a special election, the winner can be sworn in almost immediately. They don't have to wait until January.


Collins said a few weeks ago that she wouldn't support placing a new nominee. But yeah, doesn't mean she won't change her mind.
 
2020-09-19 8:09:18 AM  
The only way McConnell won't get the votes is if Trump nominates Ted Cruz. So, root for that?
 
2020-09-19 8:09:23 AM  

Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Kavanaugh
Nominated: 7/9/18
Confirmed: 10/6/18

So does that...

Does that mean you're agreeing with me that since it's 106 days until a new Congress & they delayed the Kavanaugh confirmation ny 90 days, if she had died a couple weeks later, they could have delayed it a similar amount of time?

Or does that mean you think they can delay it longer, like they did for Thomas, at 99 days, & that they'll be able to push that to 106 days?

Or... you're not suggesting that 90 days is less than 45 days, right?

I thought it might be comforting to know that even the most recent guy took almost 3 months to confirm. People keep saying McConnell will have this done within a week, but the process definitely takes way longer than that, unless there's some special legislative power he's hiding up his sleeve.


McConnell is bringing back the filibuster, and it's mutated into something new!
 
2020-09-19 8:10:06 AM  
Shame on republicans for doing things legally the way it's described in the constitution.

We should do a bunch of illegal things or change all the rules, Like adding a bunch of new justices.  Or murdering all Republicans!
 
2020-09-19 8:10:31 AM  

Biohazard Banana Suit: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Who are you talking to, exactly? Jill Stein voters?


Democrats still can't handle the fact that Hillary ran a terrible campaign, and was generally a terrible choice for President. So they blame anything else they can think of, including the candidate who got less votes than "write in".
 
2020-09-19 8:10:42 AM  

AnEasyTarget: Stephen Miller is getting the nomination

Or Ivanka.  Or Jared.

Book it. Done.


How about Sheriff Joe? Let's go full "burn down the Republic."
 
2020-09-19 8:10:51 AM  

andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.


Ginsburg's seat will be filled by Friday.

Announce pick Monday
Have "hearings" Wednesday
Vote to finish hearings Thursday
Vote to confirm Friday, with all The voting yes because of course they will.
 
2020-09-19 8:11:11 AM  

Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Kavanaugh
Nominated: 7/9/18
Confirmed: 10/6/18

So does that...

Does that mean you're agreeing with me that since it's 106 days until a new Congress & they delayed the Kavanaugh confirmation ny 90 days, if she had died a couple weeks later, they could have delayed it a similar amount of time?

Or does that mean you think they can delay it longer, like they did for Thomas, at 99 days, & that they'll be able to push that to 106 days?

Or... you're not suggesting that 90 days is less than 45 days, right?

I thought it might be comforting to know that even the most recent guy took almost 3 months to confirm. People keep saying McConnell will have this done within a week, but the process definitely takes way longer than that, unless there's some special legislative power he's hiding up his sleeve.


Now is when I miss Harry Reid in the Senate.

If there were an obscure rule buried somewhere that could be used to block this power play, he'd know about it and use it at the most opportune time.
 
2020-09-19 8:11:26 AM  

rhodabear: Lexx0001: There are single issue voters for Trump. He gets another anti abortion vote on the SCOTUS, they may feel that he has nothing more to offer them. They might just stay home.

On the other hand, some might be more energized to vote.

We'll know for sure in six weeks or so.

Today, I learned my primary care doctor is a single issue anti-abortion voter who thinks socialized medicine is bad for everyone.


I'd suggest looking for a new doctor.
 
2020-09-19 8:12:01 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: Shame on republicans for doing things legally the way it's described in the constitution.

We should do a bunch of illegal things or change all the rules, Like adding a bunch of new justices.  Or murdering all Republicans!


Merrick Garland would like a word.
 
2020-09-19 8:12:12 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Biohazard Banana Suit: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Who are you talking to, exactly? Jill Stein voters?

Democrats still can't handle the fact that Hillary ran a terrible campaign, and was generally a terrible choice for President. So they blame anything else they can think of, including the candidate who got less votes than "write in".


Democrats didn't have a choice, Hillary picked herself and the voters were stuck with her or Orange Hitler.

The rest is history.
 
2020-09-19 8:12:32 AM  

Steampunk Gallagher: GrizzlyPouch: Shame on republicans for doing things legally the way it's described in the constitution.

We should do a bunch of illegal things or change all the rules, Like adding a bunch of new justices.  Or murdering all Republicans!

Merrick Garland would like a word.


Please ignore the worst troll Fark has ever had.
 
2020-09-19 8:12:54 AM  

Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Kavanaugh
Nominated: 7/9/18
Confirmed: 10/6/18

So does that...

Does that mean you're agreeing with me that since it's 106 days until a new Congress & they delayed the Kavanaugh confirmation ny 90 days, if she had died a couple weeks later, they could have delayed it a similar amount of time?

Or does that mean you think they can delay it longer, like they did for Thomas, at 99 days, & that they'll be able to push that to 106 days?

Or... you're not suggesting that 90 days is less than 45 days, right?

I thought it might be comforting to know that even the most recent guy took almost 3 months to confirm. People keep saying McConnell will have this done within a week, but the process definitely takes way longer than that, unless there's some special legislative power he's hiding up his sleeve.


Ah.

I'm used to people dropping random facts into a reply without context with an implication that I'm wrong.

You're echoing the exact same point I keep making.
 
2020-09-19 8:13:12 AM  
Sigh, no they won't.  It's phenomenally stupid to do it before the election, when the lame duck session is available.  Republicans are evil, NOT stupid.
 
2020-09-19 8:13:34 AM  

Professor Duck: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Ginsburg's seat will be filled by Friday.

Announce pick Monday
Have "hearings" Wednesday
Vote to finish hearings Thursday
Vote to confirm Friday, with all The voting yes because of course they will.


If this all plays out like that, the Senate will easily turn blue. Voters will make the GOP pay for their hypocrisy.

And the court will be expanded. Quickly.
 
2020-09-19 8:13:37 AM  

Uncle Eazy: They would be smart to wait until after the election. There may be a few R senators that would be hesitant to rubber stamp some Trump lunatic with an election in six weeks.

After the election it won't matter. Either they won and are in for another six years, or they lost and they're out and they'll be happy to burn the place down on the way out.


Which Senators? Is Susan Collins concerned?
 
2020-09-19 8:13:41 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: Shame on republicans for doing things legally the way it's described in the constitution.

We should do a bunch of illegal things or change all the rules, Like adding a bunch of new justices.  Or murdering all Republicans!


Here's a deal. You can have your sc vote but all the Republicans who were derelict in their constitutional duty for the gorsuch nomination need to step down and leave the Senate. Sound fair?
 
2020-09-19 8:14:40 AM  

ChrisDe: Uncle Eazy: They would be smart to wait until after the election. There may be a few R senators that would be hesitant to rubber stamp some Trump lunatic with an election in six weeks.

After the election it won't matter. Either they won and are in for another six years, or they lost and they're out and they'll be happy to burn the place down on the way out.

Which Senators? Is Susan Collins concerned?


Murkowski and Romney at the moment.
 
2020-09-19 8:14:41 AM  

fzumrk: Hand Banana: Why can't Mitch McConnell just die? That piece of shiat has been screwing up our country for nearly years, enough already.

This whole thing is just another sad example of how there is no karmic justice or fairness in this world.  We have a damn pandemic of a fatal disease going on, with these chucklefarks flouting the safety rules on top of that.  Many of these guys are super old and in poor health.  Yet not a single major player among these guys has gotten even a bad case of it (Herman Cane doesn't count).  Meanwhile we lose RBG, John Lewis, and a long list of artists and entertainers who where positive contributors to society.
While Trump and his people have had a tremendous political advantage, they've also been lucky at every turn since the 2016 election.  They've gone through scandal after scandal with no real consequence. Surely they would fark up so bad at least one of these times there would be some real repercussions.  Nope.  Endless bad results, no karmic balance.
Anyway.  I just needed to rant a little.  The situation sucks and will continue to get worse for the foreseeable future.  I plan on voting and giving to various charities and democratic campaigns in the meantime. I'm going to continue to try to look for a bright side to this situation, but its been real hard.


If you think this has a happy ending you haven't been paying attention.
 
2020-09-19 8:15:48 AM  
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2020-09-19 8:16:30 AM  

Steampunk Gallagher: GrizzlyPouch: Shame on republicans for doing things legally the way it's described in the constitution.

We should do a bunch of illegal things or change all the rules, Like adding a bunch of new justices.  Or murdering all Republicans!

Merrick Garland would like a word.


The guy was nominated, That's all the president gets to do.  It's very simple.

Obama could've easily sat down with Republicans, came up with a list and nominated somebody they'd actually confirm.

He chose to play politics with the pick, Republicans reciprocated, and he lost.
 
2020-09-19 8:18:55 AM  
 
2020-09-19 8:19:25 AM  

andrewagill: Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Kavanaugh
Nominated: 7/9/18
Confirmed: 10/6/18

So does that...

Does that mean you're agreeing with me that since it's 106 days until a new Congress & they delayed the Kavanaugh confirmation ny 90 days, if she had died a couple weeks later, they could have delayed it a similar amount of time?

Or does that mean you think they can delay it longer, like they did for Thomas, at 99 days, & that they'll be able to push that to 106 days?

Or... you're not suggesting that 90 days is less than 45 days, right?

I thought it might be comforting to know that even the most recent guy took almost 3 months to confirm. People keep saying McConnell will have this done within a week, but the process definitely takes way longer than that, unless there's some special legislative power he's hiding up his sleeve.

Ah.

I'm used to people dropping random facts into a reply without context with an implication that I'm wrong.

You're echoing the exact same point I keep making.


I realize that my Weeners should have included a line with "the pattern holds up".
 
2020-09-19 8:19:29 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: If this all plays out like that, the Senate will easily turn blue. Voters will make the GOP pay for their hypocrisy.

And the court will be expanded. Quickly.


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Alright...name the states where the voters will "make them pay" as opposed to cheering this as a win for "Amurcan values".

This is a flyover country senate year. We're farked.
 
2020-09-19 8:19:46 AM  
oh for the unsuffering love of f*ck!

I'm not even American and I valued RBG extremely highly, and admired her approach to justice and gender issues.

To see the Trumpist GOP piss on that legacy makes me want to vomit. There is not a shred of decency to be found there, only hypocrisy and self-interest.
 
2020-09-19 8:19:49 AM  

willwall: JimmyTheHutt: willwall: koder: It remains unclear whether Republicans would have the votes to make a new appointment before Nov. 3.

Oh they'll have the votes. The entire election hinges on prematurely declaring Trump the winner. They'll call all The Families in for every Favor.

They don't want to fill it before the election.
Trump's only hope is everyone who supports him turns out. The best way to turn out evangelicals is to have that open seat in jeopardy.

They can get the best of both worlds by waiting until the election. If they win they can say they were being honorable and letting the people choose. If they lose they can pass a judge through a lame duck session and have avoided a lot of the fallout during the campaign

They can't guarantee the election win without having someone in that seat.

They have a 5-3 majority right now. 2 being Trump appointments, thomas having voted for bush v gore and roberts and alito having been appointed by the guy who won it.

They don't need the extra vote, and their other efforts to disrupt the election are more likely to swing it well before it gets to the SC.


No matter how the election goes, it will end up in front of the Supreme Court and Roberts is unreliable.
 
2020-09-19 8:20:09 AM  

willwall: GrizzlyPouch: Shame on republicans for doing things legally the way it's described in the constitution.

We should do a bunch of illegal things or change all the rules, Like adding a bunch of new justices.  Or murdering all Republicans!

Here's a deal. You can have your sc vote but all the Republicans who were derelict in their constitutional duty for the gorsuch nomination need to step down and leave the Senate. Sound fair?


Merrick Garland*

/Need coffee
 
2020-09-19 8:20:22 AM  
But surely he wont go back on his word about not nominating people for the SCOTUS because of tradition or something during and election year. Why couldn't it have been Mitch? Is that why the right hate abortion they need all those unwanted babies to feast on to extend their lives?
 
2020-09-19 8:20:23 AM  
Prediction: McConnell won't have the votes to confirm a nominee because vulnerable Republicans will reject the idea of hitting the blue voter hornets nest with a stick because they are already swarming enough as it is. That said, on November 4th after it doesn't matter, those votes will magically materialize regardless of the outcome because the senators will have either lost and go into lame duck mode or they will have won and go into "this is the will of the people" mode.
 
2020-09-19 8:20:30 AM  

willwall: GrizzlyPouch: Shame on republicans for doing things legally the way it's described in the constitution.

We should do a bunch of illegal things or change all the rules, Like adding a bunch of new justices.  Or murdering all Republicans!

Here's a deal. You can have your sc vote but all the Republicans who were derelict in their constitutional duty for the gorsuch nomination need to step down and leave the Senate. Sound fair?


The only person derelict was Obama.  He nominates, senates decides whether to confirm.  It's been like this going on 300 yrs now.

He could've easily nominated somebody with an actual chance of being confirmed.
 
2020-09-19 8:21:00 AM  

theinsultabot9000: Anyone in 2016 who did not process that refusing to support the lesser of two evils means you support the greater if two evils deserves the current environment.


But hey, they got to keep their moral purity intact and their hands clean - that's what really matters.

Also they can act all smug when they tell us that both sides are just as bad.
 
2020-09-19 8:21:21 AM  

Leishu: Did anybody actually expect him to not be a hypocrite about this? The dude has the moral fortitude of a wet noodle.


"OMG CAN U BELIEB!!!11" is the biggest participatory sport among the non-MAGA. Yep. I can totally believe they do things they say they are gonna do. And they have been saying they'd do this particular thing for years. It's a large part of why they support him. Meanwhile, the uninspired left is hoping Schoolhouse Rock will explain to them how elections have consequences.

/no, moron, both sides aren't bad
//one side is right and naive, the other side is wrong, cruel, and super on-message
///three
 
2020-09-19 8:21:33 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: Professor Duck: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Ginsburg's seat will be filled by Friday.

Announce pick Monday
Have "hearings" Wednesday
Vote to finish hearings Thursday
Vote to confirm Friday, with all The voting yes because of course they will.

If this all plays out like that, the Senate will easily turn blue. Voters will make the GOP pay for their hypocrisy.

And the court will be expanded. Quickly.


How?  Trump will be President in 2021 no matter what now.
 
2020-09-19 8:22:08 AM  

Uranus: oh for the unsuffering love of f*ck!

I'm not even American and I valued RBG extremely highly, and admired her approach to justice and gender issues.

To see the Trumpist GOP piss on that legacy makes me want to vomit. There is not a shred of decency to be found there, only hypocrisy and self-interest.


You should have participated in the election like other foreign powers did. You have no one to blame but yourself!
 
2020-09-19 8:22:19 AM  
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2020-09-19 8:22:29 AM  
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2020-09-19 8:23:00 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.

Nothing, as long as you think "the law" is more important than defeating fascism.


And do something other than cry online from the safety of an apathy bubble? Who do you think we are?
 
2020-09-19 8:24:54 AM  

JimmyTheHutt: Farkin_Crazy: Professor Duck: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Ginsburg's seat will be filled by Friday.

Announce pick Monday
Have "hearings" Wednesday
Vote to finish hearings Thursday
Vote to confirm Friday, with all The voting yes because of course they will.

If this all plays out like that, the Senate will easily turn blue. Voters will make the GOP pay for their hypocrisy.

And the court will be expanded. Quickly.

How?  Trump will be President in 2021 no matter what now.


Hurrr duuurrrr deeeeeerrrrrrrpppppp
 
2020-09-19 8:25:47 AM  

NobleHam: mrwknd: Merrick Garland or no one.

Fark that. Merrick Garland was a sensible moderate, an olive branch to the Republicans saying "we're not going to replace Scalia with a total liberal." They didn't take the olive branch then, they shouldn't get it now. If Ginsburg gets replaced with a boring-ass swing-vote moderate, it will be a disgrace.


Don't worry, I'm sure trump isn't going to nominate a boring-ass swing-vote moderate. It will however, still be a disgrace.
 
2020-09-19 8:26:09 AM  
Just a reminder that only about 750,000 goobers elect this farker. Tyranny of the minority, indeed.
 
2020-09-19 8:26:20 AM  

Shaggy_C: Farkin_Crazy: If this all plays out like that, the Senate will easily turn blue. Voters will make the GOP pay for their hypocrisy.

And the court will be expanded. Quickly.

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Alright...name the states where the voters will "make them pay" as opposed to cheering this as a win for "Amurcan values".

This is a flyover country senate year. We're farked.


AZ, CO, IA for starters.
 
2020-09-19 8:26:42 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: I hope they nominate the biggest anti-abortion/anti-woman/anti-gay/anti​-American asshole they can find.  Another Kavanaugh.  Rip open the national psyche right before the election.


Tom Cotton or Ted Cruz
 
2020-09-19 8:26:42 AM  
GrizzlyPouch:

The only person derelict was Obama.  He nominates, senates decides whether to confirm.  It's been like this going on 300 yrs now.

He could've easily nominated somebody with an actual chance of being confirmed.


no Mr. Pouch, he could not. Mitch McConnell ensured that when he defined the GOP's strategy to be "always oppose what the Dems do/say/ suggest/propose"

Do not mistake the damage that he has done, and is doing, to American core values, even if you are a Republican.
 
2020-09-19 8:27:12 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: willwall: GrizzlyPouch: Shame on republicans for doing things legally the way it's described in the constitution.

We should do a bunch of illegal things or change all the rules, Like adding a bunch of new justices.  Or murdering all Republicans!

Here's a deal. You can have your sc vote but all the Republicans who were derelict in their constitutional duty for the gorsuch nomination need to step down and leave the Senate. Sound fair?

The only person derelict was Obama.  He nominates, senates decides whether to confirm.  It's been like this going on 300 yrs now.

He could've easily nominated somebody with an actual chance of being confirmed.


Well... at least you're willing to lie about it.  So you've got that going for you, which is nice.
 
2020-09-19 8:27:27 AM  

Jaicu: Long list of Senators who promised to not act on SCOTUS vacancy until after election:

https://www.motherjones.com/2020-elect​ions/2020/09/a-long-list-of-gop-senato​rs-who-promised-not-to-confirm-a-supre​me-court-nominee-during-an-election-ye​ar/?fbclid=IwAR2OviZrLydFUtoTJh4ih6ZIU​tInJFAs3eumVv8N_yIeWOg00lDmzPoSA0A


Beat those motherfarkers over the head with their own words.

Particularly the ones who are up this year.
 
2020-09-19 8:27:37 AM  
Flip the Senate then impeach the motherfarker who was put on the bench.
 
2020-09-19 8:27:45 AM  

Shaggy_C: Uranus: oh for the unsuffering love of f*ck!

I'm not even American and I valued RBG extremely highly, and admired her approach to justice and gender issues.

To see the Trumpist GOP piss on that legacy makes me want to vomit. There is not a shred of decency to be found there, only hypocrisy and self-interest.

You should have participated in the election like other foreign powers did. You have no one to blame but yourself!


+1 there, bugger. well played
 
2020-09-19 8:27:46 AM  

JimmyTheHutt: willwall: JimmyTheHutt: willwall: koder: It remains unclear whether Republicans would have the votes to make a new appointment before Nov. 3.

Oh they'll have the votes. The entire election hinges on prematurely declaring Trump the winner. They'll call all The Families in for every Favor.

They don't want to fill it before the election.
Trump's only hope is everyone who supports him turns out. The best way to turn out evangelicals is to have that open seat in jeopardy.

They can get the best of both worlds by waiting until the election. If they win they can say they were being honorable and letting the people choose. If they lose they can pass a judge through a lame duck session and have avoided a lot of the fallout during the campaign

They can't guarantee the election win without having someone in that seat.

They have a 5-3 majority right now. 2 being Trump appointments, thomas having voted for bush v gore and roberts and alito having been appointed by the guy who won it.

They don't need the extra vote, and their other efforts to disrupt the election are more likely to swing it well before it gets to the SC.

No matter how the election goes, it will end up in front of the Supreme Court and Roberts is unreliable.


Even 4-4 just let's the lower court decision stand. And they've packed those courts.
 
2020-09-19 8:28:14 AM  

Maynard G. Muskievote: Just a reminder that only about 750,000 goobers elect this farker. Tyranny of the minority, indeed.


He doesn't get to make decisions by himself.  Man you guys suck at understanding like....everything.


Hurr hurr 750k ppl in Kentucky get to decide who makes all the laws.
 
2020-09-19 8:28:24 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: AZ, CO, IA for starters.


ME and CO seem like the best bets, which CO not far behind. AZ and IA are tricky. Lots of "common clay" types in each, plus lots of voter suppression.
 
2020-09-19 8:28:35 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: willwall: GrizzlyPouch: Shame on republicans for doing things legally the way it's described in the constitution.

We should do a bunch of illegal things or change all the rules, Like adding a bunch of new justices.  Or murdering all Republicans!

Here's a deal. You can have your sc vote but all the Republicans who were derelict in their constitutional duty for the gorsuch nomination need to step down and leave the Senate. Sound fair?

The only person derelict was Obama.  He nominates, senates decides whether to confirm.  It's been like this going on 300 yrs now.

He could've easily nominated somebody with an actual chance of being confirmed.


I'm just curious: is your sexual fetish that feeling of regret when you sometimes feel late at night when you think back on embarrassing things you've said and done, too?
 
2020-09-19 8:29:05 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: Shaggy_C: Farkin_Crazy: If this all plays out like that, the Senate will easily turn blue. Voters will make the GOP pay for their hypocrisy.

And the court will be expanded. Quickly.

[crystalball.centerforpolitics.org image 850x519]
Alright...name the states where the voters will "make them pay" as opposed to cheering this as a win for "Amurcan values".

This is a flyover country senate year. We're farked.

AZ, CO, IA for starters.


Also ME, NC, MT

Maybe AK, GA, SC
 
2020-09-19 8:29:47 AM  

EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.


As the Left is fond of saying, the "adults" will make this decision kids. Have a seat and be quiet.
 
2020-09-19 8:30:25 AM  

OldRod: hubiestubert: "Oh, that thing before? That was an Obama rule. It doesn't count for us."

"See, that was an election year.  This is a 'reelection' year.  Totally different!"


And the White House and Senate are controlled by a same party.

McConnell already released these talking points about his intentions only a couple of hours after her death.
 
2020-09-19 8:31:42 AM  

Gubbo: Leishu: Did anybody actually expect him to not be a hypocrite about this? The dude has the moral fortitude of a wet noodle.

It's a reminder, as if we needed one, that everything conservatives do is for their own power and benefit.

And when they try to take a moral stand, they can be told to go fark themselves in no uncertain terms.


And when they biatch and moan and call you uncivil, you laugh at them, and then again tell them to go fark themselves.


What you think is moral isn't what they think is moral. Whatever they do in the service or turning this nation into the kingdom of their god is moral.

They have no interest at all in what baby killing communists think is fair. We're not even human beings to them.

If you have rats or ants in your house do you challenge them to a fair fight and then accept the results or do you exterminate them? This is no different.
 
2020-09-19 8:31:55 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: Maynard G. Muskievote: Just a reminder that only about 750,000 goobers elect this farker. Tyranny of the minority, indeed.

He doesn't get to make decisions by himself.  Man you guys suck at understanding like....everything.


Hurr hurr 750k ppl in Kentucky get to decide who makes all the laws.


This is a particularly specious argument. As the majority leader, he defines the way the GOP senate votes on issues. This is high power indeed in the US political system. In some ways far greater than the POTUS
 
2020-09-19 8:31:57 AM  
MattytheMouse:

So you're saying Obama doesn't get to just nominate anybody he wants?

He has to pick a candidate Republicans don't like and won't vote for?  Which section of the constitution is that in?
 
2020-09-19 8:32:29 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: willwall: GrizzlyPouch: Shame on republicans for doing things legally the way it's described in the constitution.

We should do a bunch of illegal things or change all the rules, Like adding a bunch of new justices.  Or murdering all Republicans!

Here's a deal. You can have your sc vote but all the Republicans who were derelict in their constitutional duty for the gorsuch nomination need to step down and leave the Senate. Sound fair?

The only person derelict was Obama.  He nominates, senates decides whether to confirm.  It's been like this going on 300 yrs now.

He could've easily nominated somebody with an actual chance of being confirmed.


https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/16/politi​c​s/merrick-garland-republicans-praise/i​ndex.html

Republicans told Obama they would support Garland, even going so far as to say, "Obama should nominate Garland, but he won't."  No one Obama picked was going to be approved, because the Senate Republicans were refusing to do their duty to advise and consent.  shiat, they could have voted Garland down and at least have a figleaf to cover for their abuse of power, but no, they couldn't do that, because Garland was praised repeatedly by them.
 
2020-09-19 8:33:04 AM  
im sure glad rbg got to work until she was 87 and not retiring when she was 82

for all the out pouring of affection a cancer survivor gambled she was either gonna live to be 88 or clinton was going to win. her personal reasons for staying on the court have handed it to republican rule for the next 40 year s at least
 
2020-09-19 8:33:13 AM  
I wrote about this very thing in my blog, a few minutes ago.  I had to tone down my anger about this.  Because make no mistake, I am FURIOUS about!

And I am completely terrified that the absolute worst case scenario is about to unfold.

We will lose the court.  Trump will cheat.  They will side with him.
And our Democracy dies, just like that.

I hope to hell I'm wrong.  I really REALLY hope I'm wrong.
 
2020-09-19 8:33:15 AM  

fernt: EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.

As the Left is fond of saying, the "adults" will make this decision kids. Have a seat and be quiet.


Adults? In the Herp and Derp collective?
hahahah! Great Joke!
 
2020-09-19 8:34:12 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: MattytheMouse:

So you're saying Obama doesn't get to just nominate anybody he wants?

He has to pick a candidate Republicans don't like and won't vote for?  Which section of the constitution is that in?


I'll take that as a yes to my question.
 
2020-09-19 8:34:21 AM  

Uncle Eazy: They would be smart to wait until after the election. There may be a few R senators that would be hesitant to rubber stamp some Trump lunatic with an election in six weeks.

After the election it won't matter. Either they won and are in for another six years, or they lost and they're out and they'll be happy to burn the place down on the way out.


McConnell knows they've lost the Senate.  His one goal throughout his past 20 years of service has been to pack the court.  At this point he doesn't give a crap about other Senators or Congressional elections, except his own, and he's solid.  All he wants is to pack the Supremes, and now at the 11th hour, he's got his chance.
 
2020-09-19 8:34:21 AM  
...I see a lot of talk and whining in this thread.  I'm sure Republicans are pleased that's all we're capable of.
 
2020-09-19 8:34:39 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: Maynard G. Muskievote: Just a reminder that only about 750,000 goobers elect this farker. Tyranny of the minority, indeed.

He doesn't get to make decisions by himself.  Man you guys suck at understanding like....everything.


Hurr hurr 750k ppl in Kentucky get to decide who makes all the laws.


You are one dumb motherfarker.
 
2020-09-19 8:35:04 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: JimmyTheHutt: Farkin_Crazy: Professor Duck: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Ginsburg's seat will be filled by Friday.

Announce pick Monday
Have "hearings" Wednesday
Vote to finish hearings Thursday
Vote to confirm Friday, with all The voting yes because of course they will.

If this all plays out like that, the Senate will easily turn blue. Voters will make the GOP pay for their hypocrisy.

And the court will be expanded. Quickly.

How?  Trump will be President in 2021 no matter what now.

Hurrr duuurrrr deeeeeerrrrrrrpppppp


1. Trump uses the open seat as a rallying cry. Evangelicals, who already vote in large numbers and are everywhere, vote in even greater numbers.
2. The contested election ends up in front of the Supreme Court, which is now locked by conservatives.  It doesn't matter what the arguments are, they will decide fire Trump.
 
2020-09-19 8:37:32 AM  

holdmybones: ChrisDe: Uncle Eazy: They would be smart to wait until after the election. There may be a few R senators that would be hesitant to rubber stamp some Trump lunatic with an election in six weeks.

After the election it won't matter. Either they won and are in for another six years, or they lost and they're out and they'll be happy to burn the place down on the way out.

Which Senators? Is Susan Collins concerned?

Murkowski and Romney at the moment.


Murkowski will cave, as usual. So one, and the Dems need 4.
 
2020-09-19 8:37:41 AM  

Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Kavanaugh
Nominated: 7/9/18
Confirmed: 10/6/18

So does that...

Does that mean you're agreeing with me that since it's 106 days until a new Congress & they delayed the Kavanaugh confirmation ny 90 days, if she had died a couple weeks later, they could have delayed it a similar amount of time?

Or does that mean you think they can delay it longer, like they did for Thomas, at 99 days, & that they'll be able to push that to 106 days?

Or... you're not suggesting that 90 days is less than 45 days, right?

I thought it might be comforting to know that even the most recent guy took almost 3 months to confirm. People keep saying McConnell will have this done within a week, but the process definitely takes way longer than that, unless there's some special legislative power he's hiding up his sleeve.


For love of all that crawls, walks, swims, slithers, or flies, I hope you're right.
 
2020-09-19 8:38:02 AM  

Commander Lysdexic: GrizzlyPouch: Maynard G. Muskievote: Just a reminder that only about 750,000 goobers elect this farker. Tyranny of the minority, indeed.

He doesn't get to make decisions by himself.  Man you guys suck at understanding like....everything.


Hurr hurr 750k ppl in Kentucky get to decide who makes all the laws.

You are one dumb motherfarker.


This exactly what's wrong with the Democratic Party nowadays.

You guys say shiat like "you are dumb" and think that means something.  Like it's an actual reasonable retort To a political opponent.  (It's the same thing as screaming RACIST all the time)

Monkeys flinging poop
 
2020-09-19 8:38:48 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: Steampunk Gallagher: GrizzlyPouch: Shame on republicans for doing things legally the way it's described in the constitution.

We should do a bunch of illegal things or change all the rules, Like adding a bunch of new justices.  Or murdering all Republicans!

Merrick Garland would like a word.

The guy was nominated, That's all the president gets to do.  It's very simple.

Obama could've easily sat down with Republicans, came up with a list and nominated somebody they'd actually confirm.

He chose to play politics with the pick, Republicans reciprocated, and he lost.


Mitch McConnell: Top Priority, Make Obama a One Term President
Youtube W-A09a_gHJc


Yep. It was Obama playing politics, not the McTurtle doing everything he could to stymie everything Obama did.

I understand this is your shtick because no human could naturally be this stupid.
 
2020-09-19 8:39:18 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: Maynard G. Muskievote: Just a reminder that only about 750,000 goobers elect this farker. Tyranny of the minority, indeed.

He doesn't get to make decisions by himself.  Man you guys suck at understanding like....everything.


Hurr hurr 750k ppl in Kentucky get to decide who makes all the laws.


What's the weather like up your own ass?
 
2020-09-19 8:40:08 AM  

kindms: im sure glad rbg got to work until she was 87 and not retiring when she was 82

for all the out pouring of affection a cancer survivor gambled she was either gonna live to be 88 or clinton was going to win. her personal reasons for staying on the court have handed it to republican rule for the next 40 year s at least


Doesn't matter.  The Republicans were never going to confirm anyone nominated by Obama after 2013.  They would have found some reason or other to refuse to consider the nominee, and if that meant having no Justice on the Court for 4 years, they would have done so.  We've been farked since the Republican took the Senate, it was just a matter of time to see how farked.
 
2020-09-19 8:40:54 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: twat_waffle: Alphax: danvon: MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???

I saw Murkowsky say that, who was the other one? As far as I know, the VP would be a tie breaker.

Another thread said Mitt Romney.. and a couple others.  Perhaps even Lindsey Graham.. which sounds like a long shot, but he may be desperate enough to keep his 'job'.

Gardner and Collins would probably defect out of self-preservation, too.

After the election, though? All bets are off. The Democrats would be wise to kidnap three or four Republican senators, stash them someplace safe and disconnected from the outside world, and then stay in their states until January 3rd.

If there are defectors, they will come from Romney, Murkowski (she's already said she won't vote for a nominee that is rammed through at this late date), Gardner, and who the fark knows about Collins.

One other nugget to keep in mind. Since Mark Kelly and McSally are a special election, the winner can be sworn in almost immediately. They don't have to wait until January.


I just threw some money his way this morning for that very reason.
 
2020-09-19 8:41:02 AM  

LordBeavis: If they fill the spot now, that would energize the left


Maybe. Or it could utterly shatter Democrats' spirits and convince them that regardless of how they vote the supreme court is going to hand the presidency to Trump.
 
2020-09-19 8:41:12 AM  

Jaicu: Long list of Senators who promised to not act on SCOTUS vacancy until after election:

https://www.motherjones.com/2020-elect​ions/2020/09/a-long-list-of-gop-senato​rs-who-promised-not-to-confirm-a-supre​me-court-nominee-during-an-election-ye​ar/?fbclid=IwAR2OviZrLydFUtoTJh4ih6ZIU​tInJFAs3eumVv8N_yIeWOg00lDmzPoSA0A


Not sure, based on history, if MJ shame is gonna move them. We might wanna vote anyway.
 
2020-09-19 8:41:15 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: Commander Lysdexic: GrizzlyPouch: Maynard G. Muskievote: Just a reminder that only about 750,000 goobers elect this farker. Tyranny of the minority, indeed.

He doesn't get to make decisions by himself.  Man you guys suck at understanding like....everything.


Hurr hurr 750k ppl in Kentucky get to decide who makes all the laws.

You are one dumb motherfarker.

This exactly what's wrong with the Democratic Party nowadays.

You guys say shiat like "you are dumb" and think that means something.  Like it's an actual reasonable retort To a political opponent.  (It's the same thing as screaming RACIST all the time)

Monkeys flinging poop


It's so weird, because I'm never called dumb or racist as a deflection, even by people that numerous people on Fark that disagree with me!

Maybe it's just you? F'course, as to why people would be calling you a dumb racist... Now that's the mystery!
 
2020-09-19 8:41:33 AM  

Shaggy_C: Farkin_Crazy: AZ, CO, IA for starters.

ME and CO seem like the best bets, which CO not far behind. AZ and IA are tricky. Lots of "common clay" types in each, plus lots of voter suppression.


AZ isn't tricky. Kelly is beating McSally like a dog.

Iowa may be difficult. Trump giving away farm subsidy money this week might complicate things there.
 
2020-09-19 8:41:48 AM  

Uncle Eazy: They would be smart to wait until after the election. There may be a few R senators that would be hesitant to rubber stamp some Trump lunatic with an election in six weeks.

After the election it won't matter. Either they won and are in for another six years, or they lost and they're out and they'll be happy to burn the place down on the way out.


They need the new RWNJ justice in place so the Supreme Court can rule on a contested election and crown Dolt45 as the new American king.

Moscow Mitch is dishonest and dishonorable.

Third party and purity voters this is on you too. This is what happens. You may have voted third party, you may have decided you didn't want to vote, but all you did was help the Republicans. You should absolutely be ashamed of what you helped them accomplish.
 
2020-09-19 8:41:54 AM  

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?


Dems need to delay just like the repugs did.
 
2020-09-19 8:42:20 AM  

keldaria: Prediction: McConnell won't have the votes to confirm a nominee because vulnerable Republicans will reject the idea of hitting the blue voter hornets nest with a stick because they are already swarming enough as it is. That said, on November 4th after it doesn't matter, those votes will magically materialize regardless of the outcome because the senators will have either lost and go into lame duck mode or they will have won and go into "this is the will of the people" mode.


I don't know how this will pan out in the Senate, but I think Trump is definitely going to push for someone to be appointed before the election.  His priorities are to get any 'win' he thinks he can get, and to get another toady on the supreme court.  Look for upcoming editorials from potential nominees sucking up to Trump or advocating for "unitary executive theory".
 
2020-09-19 8:43:38 AM  

koder: It remains unclear whether Republicans would have the votes to make a new appointment before Nov. 3.

Oh they'll have the votes. The entire election hinges on prematurely declaring Trump the winner. They'll call all The Families in for every Favor.


8 justices is plenty enough!
 
2020-09-19 8:44:48 AM  
Turtle is a pickin and a grinnin
 
2020-09-19 8:45:12 AM  

Linux_Yes: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Dems need to delay just like the repugs did.


They can't, they are the in the minority.  The Repugs could do it in 2012 because they were the majority.
 
2020-09-19 8:45:31 AM  

EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.


Institute a purge of every Trump appointee and everyone they have ever hired and then prosecute every crime you can dig up. The Democrats are too farking weak to do it though.
 
2020-09-19 8:45:33 AM  
Vote them out.

Romney, Collins, Murkowski, Graham and Grassley are on record saying they won't vote on a SCOTUS opening before the election.  Hold them to that or make them pay for it at the ballot box.
 
2020-09-19 8:45:50 AM  

Catlenfell: This is McConnell's dream. He won't even care if he loses control of the Senate if he gets another SC seat.


He probably had a few martinis last nite to celebrate.
 
2020-09-19 8:46:25 AM  

MattytheMouse: Maybe it's just you? F'course, as to why people would be calling you a dumb racist... Now that's the mystery!


Same experience with it. I'm almost thinking it's safe to call something who votes with the racists, uses all the racists' talking points, and shrieks -- apropos of nothing -- that it's not racist might be ... well ... racist. Teh horrorz!!!

My advice to it and its fellow talking pointers is don't live a life of fark your feelings then expect your feelings to be considered. Y'know, model the behavior you expect. And all the other stuff your shiatty parents didn't teach you.
 
2020-09-19 8:50:11 AM  

slobberbone: MattytheMouse: Maybe it's just you? F'course, as to why people would be calling you a dumb racist... Now that's the mystery!

Same experience with it. I'm almost thinking it's safe to call something who votes with the racists, uses all the racists' talking points, and shrieks -- apropos of nothing -- that it's not racist might be ... well ... racist. Teh horrorz!!!

My advice to it and its fellow talking pointers is don't live a life of fark your feelings then expect your feelings to be considered. Y'know, model the behavior you expect. And all the other stuff your shiatty parents didn't teach you.


So you're saying, if multiple people keep calling you a dumb racist for all the dumb and racist stuff you post online, then maybe the only commonality is you, and you should reflect upon yourself?

Nah, that can't be it. Could be that people are just trying to shut him up, which is why he's always posting!
 
2020-09-19 8:50:49 AM  

LordBeavis: Wouldn't holding on to the pick after the election make more sense?  If they fill the spot now, that would energize the left and really do nothing for turning out their own voters.  If they wait, that might even convince some of these Lincoln Project and Never Trumpers to turn out and vote for him.  Worst case scenario for them and the Dems sweep the House, Senate, and White House, they can still ram their pick I'm calling Brett Kavanaugh 2:Rapier Doosh Bro through during the lame duck session.

I don't think they will, though, as Yertle and Fat Turd have the guile and cunning of a wet sponge.


Unless they are planning for a Bush/Gore 2000 scenario. And we know GOP appointees rarely recuse themselves and consider relationships transactional.
 
2020-09-19 8:53:19 AM  

hotrod2001: Vote them out.

Romney, Collins, Murkowski, Graham and Grassley are on record saying they won't vote on a SCOTUS opening before the election.  Hold them to that or make them pay for it at the ballot box.


Why not both?
 
2020-09-19 8:53:59 AM  

fzumrk: keldaria: Prediction: McConnell won't have the votes to confirm a nominee because vulnerable Republicans will reject the idea of hitting the blue voter hornets nest with a stick because they are already swarming enough as it is. That said, on November 4th after it doesn't matter, those votes will magically materialize regardless of the outcome because the senators will have either lost and go into lame duck mode or they will have won and go into "this is the will of the people" mode.

I don't know how this will pan out in the Senate, but I think Trump is definitely going to push for someone to be appointed before the election.  His priorities are to get any 'win' he thinks he can get, and to get another toady on the supreme court.  Look for upcoming editorials from potential nominees sucking up to Trump or advocating for "unitary executive theory".


I don't disagree, but I expect no votes until after Nov 3rd. Trump will try to leverage this inaction by painting the picture to conservatives that they can have the court if only they re-elect him. Which sadly may work for many people who had stepped away from Trump.
 
2020-09-19 8:54:20 AM  

smileyphase: and consider relationships transactional.


Much like Donnie and women?
 
2020-09-19 8:54:26 AM  
I'd like to see Pelosi initiate impeachment proceedings in the house. Let that be resolved before considering a replacement for Justice Ginsberg.
 
2020-09-19 8:55:16 AM  
JFC... Did all the trolls deterministically unserious and intentionally obtusely confrontational posters  just clock in for a weekend overtime shift? Seems like they showed up all at the same time.
 
2020-09-19 8:55:54 AM  
Hypocrites gonna hypocrite. I would be astonished if the senate returned a full vote.

Of all the things he has let sit and accumulate cobwebs, this is the one thing that motivates. Such a monumental asshole this guy is.
 
2020-09-19 8:55:57 AM  

danvon: MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???

I saw Murkowsky say that, who was the other one? As far as I know, the VP would be a tie breaker.


I don't trust Murkowski any more than Mksckw Mitch. She has (R) after her name too.
 
2020-09-19 8:57:05 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

If women actually cared about their reproductive rights, Republicans would never hold office again.


A majority of women have favored the Dem candidate since 1996. Trump got 52% of votes cast by men, and 41% of votes cast by women. That's the biggest gender gap in 40 years. He entered office with a 12 point gender gap in approval rating. Just before the conventions this year, Biden had a 16 point lead among registered women voters.
 
2020-09-19 8:57:42 AM  

danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.


I'd settle for blackmailed.
 
2020-09-19 8:57:51 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: Commander Lysdexic: GrizzlyPouch: Maynard G. Muskievote: Just a reminder that only about 750,000 goobers elect this farker. Tyranny of the minority, indeed.

He doesn't get to make decisions by himself.  Man you guys suck at understanding like....everything.


Hurr hurr 750k ppl in Kentucky get to decide who makes all the laws.

You are one dumb motherfarker.

This exactly what's wrong with the Democratic Party nowadays.

You guys say shiat like "you are dumb" and think that means something.  Like it's an actual reasonable retort To a political opponent.  (It's the same thing as screaming RACIST all the time)

Monkeys flinging poop


Farkers prefer to debate nuance with people they fundamentally agree with.

/You get the hose!
 
2020-09-19 8:58:48 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: Shame on republicans for doing things legally the way it's described in the constitution.


You're joking, right?
 
2020-09-19 8:59:13 AM  

RyogaM: Linux_Yes: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Dems need to delay just like the repugs did.

They can't, they are the in the minority.  The Repugs could do it in 2012 because they were the majority.



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Don't worry. There's always the judicial filibuster. Oh wait no there isn't, lol.
 
2020-09-19 8:59:16 AM  
Of course he does, he's a reprehensible pile of sh*t with no ethos. His only real goal in life is power and money, he should do us all a favor and die.
 
2020-09-19 8:59:33 AM  
Look, if I wanted to watch a process so depressing and heart stomping toward its foregone conclusion, I would rather watch something more light-hearted and whimsical.

Like "Grave of the Fireflies".
 
2020-09-19 8:59:51 AM  
They'll wait until the Wednesday after the election- then the lame duck Senate and lame duck president will vote in the most inane, backwards hick you've ever seen. If you think justice keg stand was a tragedy, just wait and see what they put on the bench.

The only hope is some procedural moves by the democrats to stall until Jan 21, assuming Trump loses.
 
2020-09-19 9:00:20 AM  
Why do they keep talking about election day? Even if he loses, Trump is still President until January.
 
2020-09-19 9:00:53 AM  

Biohazard Banana Suit: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Who are you talking to, exactly? Jill Stein voters?


Yes the morons.
 
2020-09-19 9:00:55 AM  

hotrod2001: Vote them out.

Romney, Collins, Murkowski, Graham and Grassley are on record saying they won't vote on a SCOTUS opening before the election.  Hold them to that or make them pay for it at the ballot box.


Yeah, ring. King, the arena is dead silent. Nobody's music is playing.
 
2020-09-19 9:01:31 AM  
Ernst sent out an fundraising email shortly (not exactly just how soon, but it sounds like less than an hour) after it was announced RBG had passed, titled "THE SUPREME COURT IS ON THE LINE".

She may have just cut her throat with voters here.
 
2020-09-19 9:02:20 AM  

Opacity: They'll wait until the Wednesday after the election- then the lame duck Senate and lame duck president will vote in the most inane, backwards hick you've ever seen. If you think justice keg stand was a tragedy, just wait and see what they put on the bench.

The only hope is some procedural moves by the democrats to stall until Jan 21, assuming Trump loses.


January 6th. New Congress.
 
2020-09-19 9:02:58 AM  
It wast 10 minutes after RBG's death was announced that Ernst sent that email.

Ten farking minutes.

Farking vulture.
 
2020-09-19 9:04:35 AM  

Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Kavanaugh
Nominated: 7/9/18
Confirmed: 10/6/18

So does that...

Does that mean you're agreeing with me that since it's 106 days until a new Congress & they delayed the Kavanaugh confirmation ny 90 days, if she had died a couple weeks later, they could have delayed it a similar amount of time?

Or does that mean you think they can delay it longer, like they did for Thomas, at 99 days, & that they'll be able to push that to 106 days?

Or... you're not suggesting that 90 days is less than 45 days, right?

I thought it might be comforting to know that even the most recent guy took almost 3 months to confirm. People keep saying McConnell will have this done within a week, but the process definitely takes way longer than that, unless there's some special legislative power he's hiding up his sleeve.


I think McConnell can change any Senate rule by a simple majority vote. Much of the United States depended on politicians' honor.
 
2020-09-19 9:04:58 AM  

ChrisDe: holdmybones: ChrisDe: Uncle Eazy: They would be smart to wait until after the election. There may be a few R senators that would be hesitant to rubber stamp some Trump lunatic with an election in six weeks.

After the election it won't matter. Either they won and are in for another six years, or they lost and they're out and they'll be happy to burn the place down on the way out.

Which Senators? Is Susan Collins concerned?

Murkowski and Romney at the moment.

Murkowski will cave, as usual. So one, and the Dems need 4.


Hey man, you asked a question and I gave you the two on record.
 
2020-09-19 9:05:45 AM  

Alphax: danvon: MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???

I saw Murkowsky say that, who was the other one? As far as I know, the VP would be a tie breaker.

Another thread said Mitt Romney.. and a couple others.  Perhaps even Lindsey Graham.. which sounds like a long shot, but he may be desperate enough to keep his 'job'.


Graham went on record (more than once) back in 2016 that not confirming Garland was setting a precedent that he intended to uphold.  He even specifically mentioned if a Republican won in 2016 and a vacancy became available in the last year of his 1st term, that he would not fill it - which is the exact situation we have here

Now, he said a lot of things in 2016 that he doesn't honor now, so who knows if that will hold up or not, but there are at least two different videos of him saying that (once on a talk show, once in a Senate hearing)

Romney is a pretty definite 'no'

Grassley, who knows - he said he wouldn't (in the past) but now is anybody's guess

Murkowski and Collins will be against it right up until they vote for it, so don't count on them
 
2020-09-19 9:06:42 AM  

chuckles5: I'd like to see Pelosi initiate impeachment proceedings in the house. Let that be resolved before considering a replacement for Justice Ginsberg.


She'll never do it, but that would be awesome!
 
2020-09-19 9:08:21 AM  

EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.


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2020-09-19 9:09:15 AM  

EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.


Evil is winning.

And that tells you what you can do about it.

Stop pretending they are stupid.
 
2020-09-19 9:09:32 AM  
(checks watch)

Huh, less than 24 hours before he went full-on bag of cocks. Impressive.
 
2020-09-19 9:09:38 AM  

Mugato: Why do they keep talking about election day? Even if he loses, Trump is still President until January.


Confirming a Justice before the election is one thing.  Confirming it after the election, especially if Trump loses, is completely different.  After the election, the people have spoken and said they want Biden to be president.  The people say they want Biden picking SCOTUS Justices

Also, picking one before the election gets that Justice seated before the election challenges all come in, where Trump sues every state that he loses in and ties up the election for months
 
2020-09-19 9:10:28 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: Professor Duck: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Ginsburg's seat will be filled by Friday.

Announce pick Monday
Have "hearings" Wednesday
Vote to finish hearings Thursday
Vote to confirm Friday, with all The voting yes because of course they will.

If this all plays out like that, the Senate will easily turn blue. Voters will make the GOP pay for their hypocrisy.

And the court will be expanded. Quickly.


This is why I don't like Conservative/Centrist Democrats like you, because you all are stupid and naive!

You think that because you nominated a woman in 2016, automatically you would have a win, no matter how much Hillary was perceived to be unlikable and ran a weak campaign. Now you're assuming that once the Republicans and Mitch McConnell act on their hypocrisy, which was predicted when they blocked Merrick Garland, you'll automatically have the Senate switched to the Democrats and be able to stack the Federal Courts with Biden appointees (having these thoughts when Biden isn't even elected yet)! Stop living in fantasyland and start actually working to win elections, stop assuming you'll automatically win as the "lesser evil"!
 
2020-09-19 9:10:28 AM  
Republicans are so much better at politics than Democrats are.

You can crow about which side is more virtuous than the other, but in the end it doesn't matter. America belongs to the competent, and Republicans are more competent then Democrats.
 
2020-09-19 9:12:37 AM  

Mugato: GrizzlyPouch: Shame on republicans for doing things legally the way it's described in the constitution.

You're joking, right?


That person is a rather large troll bitter about having to live under a bridge most of its life.  The last good meal it was hoping to have was mutton.
 
2020-09-19 9:12:57 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: It wast 10 minutes after RBG's death was announced that Ernst sent that email.

Ten farking minutes.

Farking vulture.


I somehow doubt she was the only one.

Although I'm sure many of her fellow Republicans had their sent out in milliseconds after the announcement was made.
 
2020-09-19 9:13:05 AM  

vpb: EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.

Expand the size of the SC and pack the court.


I would imagine any attempt to expand the size of the court would be challenged and eventually end up in front of the Supreme Court.  If Trump has a 3rd pick on there, there won't be an expansion
 
2020-09-19 9:14:03 AM  

Klyukva: RyogaM: Linux_Yes: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Dems need to delay just like the repugs did.

They can't, they are the in the minority.  The Repugs could do it in 2012 because they were the majority.


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Don't worry. There's always the judicial filibuster. Oh wait no there isn't, lol.


Heh, you think the Republicans were going to let the filibuster remain if the Democrats hadn't removed it first?  You're so adorable.
 
2020-09-19 9:14:03 AM  

mofa: Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: Steampunk Gallagher: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Kavanaugh
Nominated: 7/9/18
Confirmed: 10/6/18

So does that...

Does that mean you're agreeing with me that since it's 106 days until a new Congress & they delayed the Kavanaugh confirmation ny 90 days, if she had died a couple weeks later, they could have delayed it a similar amount of time?

Or does that mean you think they can delay it longer, like they did for Thomas, at 99 days, & that they'll be able to push that to 106 days?

Or... you're not suggesting that 90 days is less than 45 days, right?

I thought it might be comforting to know that even the most recent guy took almost 3 months to confirm. People keep saying McConnell will have this done within a week, but the process definitely takes way longer than that, unless there's some special legislative power he's hiding up his sleeve.

I think McConnell can change any Senate rule by a simple majority vote. Much of the United States depended on politicians' honor.


Welcome to Representative democracy
 
2020-09-19 9:14:44 AM  

OldRod: chuckles5: I'd like to see Pelosi initiate impeachment proceedings in the house. Let that be resolved before considering a replacement for Justice Ginsberg.

She'll never do it, but that would be awesome!


She'd never do it because it wouldn't accomplish shiat. Good lord people. This is a Nancy Pelosi free conflict. If you need to use a bogeyman Democrat to signal to everyone that the do-nothing democrats are the real problem here, at least use Chuck Schumer. What in the world makes you think McConnell would even acknowledge anything going on in the house?
 
2020-09-19 9:15:06 AM  

AurizenDarkstar: Farkin_Crazy: It wast 10 minutes after RBG's death was announced that Ernst sent that email.

Ten farking minutes.

Farking vulture.

I somehow doubt she was the only one.

Although I'm sure many of her fellow Republicans had their sent out in milliseconds after the announcement was made.


Yeah, but she is in a tight race right now.

I don't think, once that email becomes common knowledge, Iowans, as a whole, are going to be happy with her.
 
2020-09-19 9:16:10 AM  

LurkLongAndProsper: OldRod: chuckles5: I'd like to see Pelosi initiate impeachment proceedings in the house. Let that be resolved before considering a replacement for Justice Ginsberg.

She'll never do it, but that would be awesome!

She'd never do it because it wouldn't accomplish shiat. Good lord people. This is a Nancy Pelosi free conflict. If you need to use a bogeyman Democrat to signal to everyone that the do-nothing democrats are the real problem here, at least use Chuck Schumer. What in the world makes you think McConnell would even acknowledge anything going on in the house?


Actually that sort of parliamentary trickery could work. The objective wouldn't be to actually get someone removed, it would be to force the Senate to waste time on it.
 
2020-09-19 9:16:34 AM  

harleyquinnical: Mugato: GrizzlyPouch: Shame on republicans for doing things legally the way it's described in the constitution.

You're joking, right?

That person is a rather large troll bitter about having to live under a bridge most of its life.  The last good meal it was hoping to have was mutton.


I'm not good at spotting trolls, never was. I don't have the energy.
 
2020-09-19 9:17:26 AM  
I am usually very wordy.

All I have to say is as of last night I have lost all hope.
 
2020-09-19 9:17:50 AM  
Back when RBG experienced health problems during President Obama's second term, I was wishing she would retire as she was throwing fate to the wind.  Once Trump was elected to the presidency, I hoped she could cling to January 2021.

All that being said, I knew McConnell would be a hypocrite.  Assuming he pulls his stunt, then I hope the Republicans take such a drubbing at the ballot box that they are in the Senate minority for the next 50 years.  It has happened before.
 
2020-09-19 9:19:17 AM  

DarkSoulNoHope: Farkin_Crazy: Professor Duck: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Ginsburg's seat will be filled by Friday.

Announce pick Monday
Have "hearings" Wednesday
Vote to finish hearings Thursday
Vote to confirm Friday, with all The voting yes because of course they will.

If this all plays out like that, the Senate will easily turn blue. Voters will make the GOP pay for their hypocrisy.

And the court will be expanded. Quickly.

This is why I don't like Conservative/Centrist Democrats like you, because you all are stupid and naive!

You think that because you nominated a woman in 2016, automatically you would have a win, no matter how much Hillary was perceived to be unlikable and ran a weak campaign. Now you're assuming that once the Republicans and Mitch McConnell act on their hypocrisy, which was predicted when they blocked Merrick Garland, you'll automatically have the Senate switched to the Democrats and be able to stack the Federal Courts with Biden appointees (having these thoughts when Biden isn't even elected yet)! Stop living in fantasyland and start actually working to win elections, stop assuming you'll automatically win as the "lesser evil"!


Don't lump everyone together. I think most of us know that you shiatheads are going to stay home again just like you did in 2016 and again in the primaries. There will be no senate flip, trump will win re-election, and his court picks will be cemented well enough they'll be there forever. Since you can't be counted on to vote, packing the courts would be a gigantic error as it's only a matter of time before republicans take over the government again and just fark us over worse. Congratulations, this must be a major win for progressivism.
 
2020-09-19 9:19:44 AM  

sniderman: (checks watch)

Huh, less than 24 hours before he went full-on bag of cocks. Impressive.


It was less than three hours.
 
2020-09-19 9:20:58 AM  

OldRod: Graham went on record (more than once) back in 2016 that not confirming Garland was setting a precedent that he intended to uphold.  He even specifically mentioned if a Republican won in 2016 and a vacancy became available in the last year of his 1st term, that he would not fill it - which is the exact situation we have here


This is one of those things that he says because the political climate dictates that he says it.  It's completely empty words.  Or, as I read in a fortune cookie once, "Actions are louder than talks"

We all hope that he sticks to his word.  But his actions show that he never EVER sticks to his word.  So we cannot count on this.
 
2020-09-19 9:22:36 AM  

qorkfiend: LurkLongAndProsper: OldRod: chuckles5: I'd like to see Pelosi initiate impeachment proceedings in the house. Let that be resolved before considering a replacement for Justice Ginsberg.

She'll never do it, but that would be awesome!

She'd never do it because it wouldn't accomplish shiat. Good lord people. This is a Nancy Pelosi free conflict. If you need to use a bogeyman Democrat to signal to everyone that the do-nothing democrats are the real problem here, at least use Chuck Schumer. What in the world makes you think McConnell would even acknowledge anything going on in the house?

Actually that sort of parliamentary trickery could work. The objective wouldn't be to actually get someone removed, it would be to force the Senate to waste time on it.


There may be another option too - doesn't the government run out of funding at the end of the month?  What happens if Pelosi refuses to work on a funding bill?  Would that slow things down?
 
2020-09-19 9:23:06 AM  

EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.


Time to put out the moron traps,
 
2020-09-19 9:23:06 AM  

qorkfiend: LurkLongAndProsper: OldRod: chuckles5: I'd like to see Pelosi initiate impeachment proceedings in the house. Let that be resolved before considering a replacement for Justice Ginsberg.

She'll never do it, but that would be awesome!

She'd never do it because it wouldn't accomplish shiat. Good lord people. This is a Nancy Pelosi free conflict. If you need to use a bogeyman Democrat to signal to everyone that the do-nothing democrats are the real problem here, at least use Chuck Schumer. What in the world makes you think McConnell would even acknowledge anything going on in the house?

Actually that sort of parliamentary trickery could work. The objective wouldn't be to actually get someone removed, it would be to force the Senate to waste time on it.


Did the first impeachment proceedings stop the senate from seating judges? I was under the impression that nothing really has this whole time excepting the brief holds individual republicans have put on the process. Is there an actual rule or law that halts traffic through the senate while an impeachment is happening?
 
2020-09-19 9:23:09 AM  
This is how it could play out

Courts are packed with indebted Trump appointees

Election is compromised and contested

Courts rule in favor of Trump

Country has Trump for another 4 years at least

So what are we going to do about it?
 
2020-09-19 9:23:15 AM  

OldRod: vpb: EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.

Expand the size of the SC and pack the court.

I would imagine any attempt to expand the size of the court would be challenged and eventually end up in front of the Supreme Court.  If Trump has a 3rd pick on there, there won't be an expansion


The size of the court has already changed through history. It just takes an act of Congress. There's no judicable controversy if Congress passes something and the President signs it.
 
2020-09-19 9:23:52 AM  

Utter Genius: Republicans are so much better at politics than Democrats are.

You can crow about which side is more virtuous than the other, but in the end it doesn't matter. America belongs to the competent, and Republicans are more competent then Democrats.


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2020-09-19 9:24:27 AM  

RyogaM: Klyukva: RyogaM: Linux_Yes: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Dems need to delay just like the repugs did.

They can't, they are the in the minority.  The Repugs could do it in 2012 because they were the majority.


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Don't worry. There's always the judicial filibuster. Oh wait no there isn't, lol.

Heh, you think the Republicans were going to let the filibuster remain if the Democrats hadn't removed it first?  You're so adorable.


Man look at that projection. "Yeah sure we're the ones who actually triggered the so-called 'nuclear option', but Republicans would have done the same (even though they had the opportunity and didn't)." I'm also sure that right now in 2020 with a real possibility of losing both the senate and the presidency they'd be very eager to undermine their possible position as the minority party.

Well, the important thing here is to accept no blame and learn nothing going forward, like the people in these threads fantasizing about farking the goat further by packing the court.
 
2020-09-19 9:25:19 AM  
Elections have consequences, and he said he was gonna.
Oh, right.............she had Emails.
Hope you're happy, lazy irresponsible idiots.
 
2020-09-19 9:26:03 AM  

OldRod: qorkfiend: LurkLongAndProsper: OldRod: chuckles5: I'd like to see Pelosi initiate impeachment proceedings in the house. Let that be resolved before considering a replacement for Justice Ginsberg.

She'll never do it, but that would be awesome!

She'd never do it because it wouldn't accomplish shiat. Good lord people. This is a Nancy Pelosi free conflict. If you need to use a bogeyman Democrat to signal to everyone that the do-nothing democrats are the real problem here, at least use Chuck Schumer. What in the world makes you think McConnell would even acknowledge anything going on in the house?

Actually that sort of parliamentary trickery could work. The objective wouldn't be to actually get someone removed, it would be to force the Senate to waste time on it.

There may be another option too - doesn't the government run out of funding at the end of the month?  What happens if Pelosi refuses to work on a funding bill?  Would that slow things down?


I forgot about the government shutdown. I have no idea how that would work. I'm fine with the idea of closing it all down until after the Election if that would stop it. Pandemic be damned, nothing useful is being done to address that anyway.
 
2020-09-19 9:27:23 AM  
GrizzlyPouch:

Obama could've easily sat down with Republicans, came up with a list and nominated somebody they'd actually confirm.

He did.

They told him they'd be willing to confirm Merrick Garland because he was still a conservative jurist, if not quite as ignorant and blindly partisan as Scalia, so that's who he nominated.

Then they refused to give Garland a vote.
 
2020-09-19 9:28:42 AM  

Klyukva: RyogaM: Klyukva: RyogaM: Linux_Yes: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Dems need to delay just like the repugs did.

They can't, they are the in the minority.  The Repugs could do it in 2012 because they were the majority.


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Don't worry. There's always the judicial filibuster. Oh wait no there isn't, lol.

Heh, you think the Republicans were going to let the filibuster remain if the Democrats hadn't removed it first?  You're so adorable.

Man look at that projection. "Yeah sure we're the ones who actually triggered the so-called 'nuclear option', but Republicans would have done the same (even though they had the opportunity and didn't)." I'm also sure that right now in 2020 with a real possibility of losing both the senate and the presidency they'd be very eager to undermine their possible position as the minority party.

Well, the important thing here is to accept no blame and learn nothing going forward, like the people in these threads fantasizing about farking the goat further by packing the court.


I already said you are adorable. Do you want me to ruffle your hair, too? Consider it ruffled.
 
2020-09-19 9:28:49 AM  

EvilEgg: Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.


Just use your superior intelligence.

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2020-09-19 9:29:29 AM  
It is gonna be so hard to learn the names of all thirteen Supreme Court Justices next summer.

Seriously that is what needs to happen.  They push in their guy fine.  We get the Senate we need to point out the hypocrisy of what they did after Garlan, then expand the court to thirteen judges and then double the number of Federal judgeships and fill all of those.

The last needs to happen regardless because the  case load.
 
2020-09-19 9:30:05 AM  

Murkanen: GrizzlyPouch:

Obama could've easily sat down with Republicans, came up with a list and nominated somebody they'd actually confirm.

He did.

They told him they'd be willing to confirm Merrick Garland because he was still a conservative jurist, if not quite as ignorant and blindly partisan as Scalia, so that's who he nominated.

Then they refused to give Garland a vote.


You have to understand how the "conservative" mind works. Because the present refuses to conform to their distorted imaginings of some halcyon distant past we should be returning to, they mentally rewrite the past to conform to their convoluted and twisted narrative.
Facts such as you just stated, they simply edit out.
 
2020-09-19 9:30:26 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: Maynard G. Muskievote: Just a reminder that only about 750,000 goobers elect this farker. Tyranny of the minority, indeed.

He doesn't get to make decisions by himself.  Man you guys suck at understanding like....everything.


Hurr hurr 750k ppl in Kentucky get to decide who makes all the laws.


For someone trying to lecture others about how the government works you're awfully ignorant about the role that the Senate majority leader plays in the legislative process.
 
2020-09-19 9:30:46 AM  
Cool, we got the playbook all sorted out
1. Blame non voters
2. Unsuccessfully try to shame Republicans into acting right

Cool. Can't imagine how this will play out
 
2020-09-19 9:30:50 AM  
Something very very, VERY bad needs to happen to this lipless chinless son of a mother farker. Like yesterday.
 
2020-09-19 9:31:24 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: AurizenDarkstar: Farkin_Crazy: It wast 10 minutes after RBG's death was announced that Ernst sent that email.

Ten farking minutes.

Farking vulture.

I somehow doubt she was the only one.

Although I'm sure many of her fellow Republicans had their sent out in milliseconds after the announcement was made.

Yeah, but she is in a tight race right now.

I don't think, once that email becomes common knowledge, Iowans, as a whole, are going to be happy with her.


I'm not an Iowan, and I didn't even know who her opponent was, but I just sent a few bucks her way. Theresa Greenfield, that is.
 
2020-09-19 9:32:14 AM  
Get everyone out to vote as much as possible. If you've got early voting do it. Then take a little trip to DC and surround it. This is the time to tell that motherfarker exactly what the PEOPLE want. And  be sure to let them know we're willing to forget the knife in this gun fight.
 
2020-09-19 9:32:24 AM  
Impeach trump for literally everything. Bog down the media and the senate.

It's right there you stupid farks. The guy who gets to replace RBG murdered 200,000 americans. Use impeachment as a weapon. Jesus christ we're gonna try to shame Republicans as a tactic again. Jesus christ. Goddamn farking morons.
 
2020-09-19 9:32:33 AM  

Tyrone Slothrop: Biohazard Banana Suit: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Who are you talking to, exactly? Jill Stein voters?

Democrats still can't handle the fact that Hillary ran a terrible campaign, and was generally a terrible choice for President. So they blame anything else they can think of, including the candidate who got less votes than "write in".


Look, when your choice is cake or death it's not a difficult choice. You don't stop to ask what kind of cake it is first.
 
2020-09-19 9:32:47 AM  

LurkLongAndProsper: qorkfiend: LurkLongAndProsper: OldRod: chuckles5: I'd like to see Pelosi initiate impeachment proceedings in the house. Let that be resolved before considering a replacement for Justice Ginsberg.

She'll never do it, but that would be awesome!

She'd never do it because it wouldn't accomplish shiat. Good lord people. This is a Nancy Pelosi free conflict. If you need to use a bogeyman Democrat to signal to everyone that the do-nothing democrats are the real problem here, at least use Chuck Schumer. What in the world makes you think McConnell would even acknowledge anything going on in the house?

Actually that sort of parliamentary trickery could work. The objective wouldn't be to actually get someone removed, it would be to force the Senate to waste time on it.

Did the first impeachment proceedings stop the senate from seating judges? I was under the impression that nothing really has this whole time excepting the brief holds individual republicans have put on the process. Is there an actual rule or law that halts traffic through the senate while an impeachment is happening?


No.

The US government works through a series of "gentlemens' agreements." If people decide to do other things, in many instances there are not actual laws to stop them. And even if there were, when the Justice Dept is ruled by someone like Trump, they can simply decide to not prosecute.
 
2020-09-19 9:33:09 AM  

Klyukva: EvilEgg: Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.

Just use your superior intelligence.

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So - let America die of Trumpism, like Nazi Germany died of Nazism or the Soviet Union died of communism - and sweep up the ashes and rebuild?
Isn't that what the right wing morons want to do about Covid-19, too?
Seems like an unnecessarily costly solution.
 
2020-09-19 9:34:29 AM  

Champion of the Sun: Cool, we got the playbook all sorted out
1. Blame non voters
2. Unsuccessfully try to shame Republicans into acting right

Cool. Can't imagine how this will play out


Yeah, but then you say

Champion of the Sun: Impeach trump for literally everything. Bog down the media and the senate.

It's right there you stupid farks. The guy who gets to replace RBG murdered 200,000 americans. Use impeachment as a weapon. Jesus christ we're gonna try to shame Republicans as a tactic again. Jesus christ. Goddamn farking morons.


and impeaching Trump again will accomplish nothing.
 
2020-09-19 9:34:30 AM  

durbnpoisn: I wrote about this very thing in my blog, a few minutes ago.  I had to tone down my anger about this.  Because make no mistake, I am FURIOUS about!

And I am completely terrified that the absolute worst case scenario is about to unfold.

We will lose the court.  Trump will cheat.  They will side with him.
And our Democracy dies, just like that.

I hope to hell I'm wrong.  I really REALLY hope I'm wrong.


I was feeling dread about 6 weeks ago, and it lightened up about 2 weeks ago.

Now that feeling of dread is back and it's 100 fold worse than my initial feeling.

I honestly believe America is done and that sometime within the next 2 years (or less), my SSDI will be taken away, as well as my son's and mine SNAP benefits, and my son's Medicaid. We will be homeless before those 2 years are up & there won't be anyone who will help us, as all social safety nets will be dismantled. 

RBG passing is the absolute worst thing that could have happened right now.

I am scared beyond words.
 
2020-09-19 9:34:44 AM  

someonelse: Farkin_Crazy: AurizenDarkstar: Farkin_Crazy: It wast 10 minutes after RBG's death was announced that Ernst sent that email.

Ten farking minutes.

Farking vulture.

I somehow doubt she was the only one.

Although I'm sure many of her fellow Republicans had their sent out in milliseconds after the announcement was made.

Yeah, but she is in a tight race right now.

I don't think, once that email becomes common knowledge, Iowans, as a whole, are going to be happy with her.

I'm not an Iowan, and I didn't even know who her opponent was, but I just sent a few bucks her way. Theresa Greenfield, that is.


Yes. Theresa Greenfield.

I tweeted at her, and so have others, already this morning that if she doesn't hammer Ernst on her fundraising email that went out 10 minutes after RBG's death was announced, I'd re-evaluate my vote for her.

I don't want a Senator who is going to stand by idly and watch this shiat happen without speaking up.
 
2020-09-19 9:35:35 AM  

Klyukva: Champion of the Sun: Cool, we got the playbook all sorted out
1. Blame non voters
2. Unsuccessfully try to shame Republicans into acting right

Cool. Can't imagine how this will play out

Yeah, but then you say

Champion of the Sun: Impeach trump for literally everything. Bog down the media and the senate.

It's right there you stupid farks. The guy who gets to replace RBG murdered 200,000 americans. Use impeachment as a weapon. Jesus christ we're gonna try to shame Republicans as a tactic again. Jesus christ. Goddamn farking morons.

and impeaching Trump again will accomplish nothing.


We don't even have to imagine how that would play out. We've seen it.
 
2020-09-19 9:36:41 AM  

Klyukva: Champion of the Sun: Cool, we got the playbook all sorted out
1. Blame non voters
2. Unsuccessfully try to shame Republicans into acting right

Cool. Can't imagine how this will play out

Yeah, but then you say

Champion of the Sun: Impeach trump for literally everything. Bog down the media and the senate.

It's right there you stupid farks. The guy who gets to replace RBG murdered 200,000 americans. Use impeachment as a weapon. Jesus christ we're gonna try to shame Republicans as a tactic again. Jesus christ. Goddamn farking morons.

and impeaching Trump again will accomplish nothing.


The senate has to take up articles of impeachment. Can't confirm a justice while in the middle of an impeachment trial

You think your guys' never ending excuses and cowardice has contributed to the situation at all? Cause theres always an excuse. A farking excuse is all you can offer

Sorry. Can't do nothing cause reasons.
 
2020-09-19 9:37:06 AM  
"In the last midterm election before Justice Scalia's death in 2016, Americans elected a Republican Senate majority because we pledged to check and balance the last days of a lame-duck president's second term. We kept our promise. Since the 1880s, no Senate has confirmed an opposite-party president's Supreme Court nominee in a presidential election year," he said.

Go fark yourself you farking coward.
After Trump, you're next.

farking traitors.
 
2020-09-19 9:37:42 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: Yes. Theresa Greenfield.

I tweeted at her, and so have others, already this morning that if she doesn't hammer Ernst on her fundraising email that went out 10 minutes after RBG's death was announced, I'd re-evaluate my vote for her.

I don't want a Senator who is going to stand by idly and watch this shiat happen without speaking up.


So you're saying you really would endanger the chance of a Democratic majority in the senate, or do you just hope she believes you would?
 
2020-09-19 9:38:43 AM  

someonelse: Klyukva: Champion of the Sun: Cool, we got the playbook all sorted out
1. Blame non voters
2. Unsuccessfully try to shame Republicans into acting right

Cool. Can't imagine how this will play out

Yeah, but then you say

Champion of the Sun: Impeach trump for literally everything. Bog down the media and the senate.

It's right there you stupid farks. The guy who gets to replace RBG murdered 200,000 americans. Use impeachment as a weapon. Jesus christ we're gonna try to shame Republicans as a tactic again. Jesus christ. Goddamn farking morons.

and impeaching Trump again will accomplish nothing.

We don't even have to imagine how that would play out. We've seen it.


He was impeached for a crime so serious it wasn't even brought up at the democratic convention.

Jesus christ. Weak bullshiat.

Clown faced baby dick has murdered 200,000 americans plus all the other atrocities

But we can't do anything but wail.
 
2020-09-19 9:38:58 AM  

Champion of the Sun: Impeach trump for literally everything. Bog down the media and the senate.

It's right there you stupid farks. The guy who gets to replace RBG murdered 200,000 americans. Use impeachment as a weapon. Jesus christ we're gonna try to shame Republicans as a tactic again. Jesus christ. Goddamn farking morons.


First of all there isn't enough time for another impeachment. Second, what has changed that you think it's going to work this time? He'd be exonerated again and he'll get to play the victim a second time.
 
2020-09-19 9:39:40 AM  
suebhoney:

I was feeling dread about 6 weeks ago, and it lightened up about 2 weeks ago.

Now that feeling of dread is back and it's 100 fold worse than my initial feeling.

I honestly believe America is done and that sometime within the next 2 years (or less), my SSDI will be taken away, as well as my son's and mine SNAP benefits, and my son's Medicaid. We will be homeless before those 2 years are up & there won't be anyone who will help us, as all social safety nets will be dismantled. 

RBG passing is the absolute worst thing that could have happened right now.

I am scared beyond words.


America is never done...sometimes drunk, sometimes grumpy and hungover, but always ready to go another round. Just vote, encourage others to vote, and trust that the level heads will prevail.
 
2020-09-19 9:40:20 AM  

suebhoney: I am scared beyond words.


Don't be. Your first priority is to live your own life, take care of yourself, and thus maintain your potential capacity to help others. Make the right moral choices on a daily basis, participate in your society, send money, vote.
It may be that America made a mistake back in 2016 that it won't recover from without a hefty and painful price to be paid.
Life is like that sometimes - you f**k up, and it costs you, and all you can do is pay.
Hopefully, America will learn something.
Be be brave, be of good cheer, and purchase lots of guns and ammo.
Gardy loo!!
 
2020-09-19 9:40:27 AM  

Mugato: Champion of the Sun: Impeach trump for literally everything. Bog down the media and the senate.

It's right there you stupid farks. The guy who gets to replace RBG murdered 200,000 americans. Use impeachment as a weapon. Jesus christ we're gonna try to shame Republicans as a tactic again. Jesus christ. Goddamn farking morons.

First of all there isn't enough time for another impeachment. Second, what has changed that you think it's going to work this time? He'd be exonerated again and he'll get to play the victim a second time.


Delaying a confirmation and failing to convict is a win. Jesus christ. How difficult is it for you guys to understand that?

Not giving the gop another seat is the point.
 
2020-09-19 9:40:35 AM  
The biggest problem is going to come a LOT sooner than some future decision on abortion rights. Even if they can't ram a nomination through the Senate in 40-odd days (and the previous record was 50 days), the lopsided conservative balance of the present Court will hear all the inevitable suits that will surround the attempted GOP theft of the election. And I don't doubt for a minute that they will hand the election to Trump even if he loses both the popular vote AND the electoral vote.

The identity of the next president is gong to come down to the Joint Chiefs and whether they take their oaths to defend the Constitution more seriously than Trump and McConnell and their lackeys. It's either going to be that or eight months from now we'll be in a genuine civil war. And I'm too old now, and too arthritic, to do my part shooting Republicans.
 
2020-09-19 9:41:25 AM  

LurkLongAndProsper: DarkSoulNoHope: Farkin_Crazy: Professor Duck: andrewagill: [Fark user image image 425x444]

It's 106 days until a new Congress.

They won't be able to delay it that long but they will be able to delay it past the election in 45 days.

If she had died a couple weeks later I'd have said it was too late.

Ginsburg's seat will be filled by Friday.

Announce pick Monday
Have "hearings" Wednesday
Vote to finish hearings Thursday
Vote to confirm Friday, with all The voting yes because of course they will.

If this all plays out like that, the Senate will easily turn blue. Voters will make the GOP pay for their hypocrisy.

And the court will be expanded. Quickly.

This is why I don't like Conservative/Centrist Democrats like you, because you all are stupid and naive!

You think that because you nominated a woman in 2016, automatically you would have a win, no matter how much Hillary was perceived to be unlikable and ran a weak campaign. Now you're assuming that once the Republicans and Mitch McConnell act on their hypocrisy, which was predicted when they blocked Merrick Garland, you'll automatically have the Senate switched to the Democrats and be able to stack the Federal Courts with Biden appointees (having these thoughts when Biden isn't even elected yet)! Stop living in fantasyland and start actually working to win elections, stop assuming you'll automatically win as the "lesser evil"!

Don't lump everyone together. I think most of us know that you shiatheads are going to stay home again just like you did in 2016 and again in the primaries. There will be no senate flip, trump will win re-election, and his court picks will be cemented well enough they'll be there forever. Since you can't be counted on to vote, packing the courts would be a gigantic error as it's only a matter of time before republicans take over the government again and just fark us over worse. Congratulations, this must be a major win for progressivism.


It is a major win for progressivism, it proves that Centrist/Conservative Democrats running milquetoast candidates whom don't upset their wealthy donors allows fascism to take hold. Of course you blame progressives for "not voting" when twice there has been a conjoined effort to prevent progressives from winning candidates (especially Sanders), as well as Republicans suppressing the vote in historical Democratic areas (mainly cities) of Republican states, and then you use those constructive suppression to "prove" that progressives can't get out the vote. Also, you completely ignore the non-voter as a factor, which you can fix by making election day a state holiday in Democratic states so people can vote who had no ability before due to work schedule or other factors, as well as putting out political candidates who can convince people to vote for them with promoting good government ideas and policies!

Of course proving progressivism should have been pushed for instead of Conservative Democrats' "middle ground ideas, but settle for the Republican plan as a 'compromise' " is only a "I told you so". Still being naive and thinking you're going to win without effort, when the Republicans prove you otherwise each time, is stupid.
 
2020-09-19 9:41:35 AM  

Champion of the Sun: But we can't do anything but wail.


you can, but it requires effort.
 
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2020-09-19 9:43:55 AM  

Champion of the Sun: Mugato: Champion of the Sun: Impeach trump for literally everything. Bog down the media and the senate.

It's right there you stupid farks. The guy who gets to replace RBG murdered 200,000 americans. Use impeachment as a weapon. Jesus christ we're gonna try to shame Republicans as a tactic again. Jesus christ. Goddamn farking morons.

First of all there isn't enough time for another impeachment. Second, what has changed that you think it's going to work this time? He'd be exonerated again and he'll get to play the victim a second time.

Delaying a confirmation and failing to convict is a win. Jesus christ. How difficult is it for you guys to understand that?

Not giving the gop another seat is the point.


There's nothing that says the president can't still nominate a judge while being impeached.

READ
 
2020-09-19 9:44:27 AM  
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2020-09-19 9:44:31 AM  
RBG is solely to blame for this.

She could have left under Obama a decade ago and he could have picked her replacement easily. But she was so sure Clinton would prevail that she hung on despite being at the edge of death because she wanted a successor who was handpicked by the first female Pres. Now control over your gynecological apparati is going to vanish.

I expected Turtle to jump on this opportunity first chance.

Now we get to see more liberal handwringing as we get the partiest bro who ever partied confirmed within 6 weeks, or we get some underqualified young chippie just to throw a bone to feminism sort of like how Old Bush and Biden saluted Civil rights by replacing Marshall with a much inferior (but darker skinned!) Thomas.
 
2020-09-19 9:44:54 AM  
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2020-09-19 9:45:44 AM  

Mugato: Champion of the Sun: Mugato: Champion of the Sun: Impeach trump for literally everything. Bog down the media and the senate.

It's right there you stupid farks. The guy who gets to replace RBG murdered 200,000 americans. Use impeachment as a weapon. Jesus christ we're gonna try to shame Republicans as a tactic again. Jesus christ. Goddamn farking morons.

First of all there isn't enough time for another impeachment. Second, what has changed that you think it's going to work this time? He'd be exonerated again and he'll get to play the victim a second time.

Delaying a confirmation and failing to convict is a win. Jesus christ. How difficult is it for you guys to understand that?

Not giving the gop another seat is the point.

There's nothing that says the president can't still nominate a judge while being impeached.

READ


Linking to farking quora?

Jesus christ. Always an excuse. Always a reason not to act.

Good luck shaming the republicans. Keep on keeping on.
 
2020-09-19 9:46:26 AM  

Alphax: danvon: MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???

I saw Murkowsky say that, who was the other one? As far as I know, the VP would be a tie breaker.

Another thread said Mitt Romney.. and a couple others.  Perhaps even Lindsey Graham.. which sounds like a long shot, but he may be desperate enough to keep his 'job'.


Lindsey Graham has been compromised ever since he went golfing with Trump. He went from somewhat moderate R for some issues to raging sycophant in a day.
 
2020-09-19 9:47:01 AM  

Champion of the Sun: Mugato: Champion of the Sun: Mugato: Champion of the Sun: Impeach trump for literally everything. Bog down the media and the senate.

It's right there you stupid farks. The guy who gets to replace RBG murdered 200,000 americans. Use impeachment as a weapon. Jesus christ we're gonna try to shame Republicans as a tactic again. Jesus christ. Goddamn farking morons.

First of all there isn't enough time for another impeachment. Second, what has changed that you think it's going to work this time? He'd be exonerated again and he'll get to play the victim a second time.

Delaying a confirmation and failing to convict is a win. Jesus christ. How difficult is it for you guys to understand that?

Not giving the gop another seat is the point.

There's nothing that says the president can't still nominate a judge while being impeached.

READ

Linking to farking quora?

Jesus christ. Always an excuse. Always a reason not to act.

Good luck shaming the republicans. Keep on keeping on.


You were wrong. You can admit it.
 
2020-09-19 9:47:20 AM  

Opacity: They'll wait until the Wednesday after the election- then the lame duck Senate and lame duck president will vote in the most inane, backwards hick you've ever seen. If you think justice keg stand was a tragedy, just wait and see what they put on the bench.

The only hope is some procedural moves by the democrats to stall until Jan 21, assuming Trump loses.


There are no procedural moves that will prevail.

Remember how everyone here was saying Obama should have just made a recess appointment?

If it looks like this isn't going to sail through Mitch will simply call for a recess, Trump will make a recess appointment, declare it permanent, Democrats will say you can't do that, it'll go to SCOTUS, and his pet court will uphold it.

The Democrats in the Senate should put up a fight because it's the last thing they'll ever do that even looks like it'll matter, but they've already lost.
 
2020-09-19 9:47:41 AM  
Jeebus Christ what a shiathole of a human turtle.

Good luck America, you farking need it.
 
2020-09-19 9:49:14 AM  

Mugato: Champion of the Sun: Mugato: Champion of the Sun: Mugato: Champion of the Sun: Impeach trump for literally everything. Bog down the media and the senate.

It's right there you stupid farks. The guy who gets to replace RBG murdered 200,000 americans. Use impeachment as a weapon. Jesus christ we're gonna try to shame Republicans as a tactic again. Jesus christ. Goddamn farking morons.

First of all there isn't enough time for another impeachment. Second, what has changed that you think it's going to work this time? He'd be exonerated again and he'll get to play the victim a second time.

Delaying a confirmation and failing to convict is a win. Jesus christ. How difficult is it for you guys to understand that?

Not giving the gop another seat is the point.

There's nothing that says the president can't still nominate a judge while being impeached.

READ

Linking to farking quora?

Jesus christ. Always an excuse. Always a reason not to act.

Good luck shaming the republicans. Keep on keeping on.

You were wrong. You can admit it.


Your answer was from quora. Random guy on the street. How is baby fromed?

You think the 23 gop senators up for election want to push through another kavanaugh while trumps crimes are laid bare?

But you guys aren't gonna do that. You have your excuse. "Sorry, can't do anything"
 
2020-09-19 9:49:39 AM  

Champion of the Sun: You think your guys' never ending excuses and cowardice


"You guys"

..so whats that make you?
Another lost conservative without a party?
Lets talk about who the cowards are in this scenario.

The ones sticking to their principles and ideals and not letting it turn us into 'them' or the idiots who allowed their party to be totally corrupted and now, instead of fixing it, they run away and complain that their alternative isn't authoritarian enough.

LOL you guys are farking pathetic.

This is no ones fault but GoP and the low-iq assholes that hump guns that love them.

fark all of them.
 
2020-09-19 9:50:00 AM  

kindms: im sure glad rbg got to work until she was 87 and not retiring when she was 82

for all the out pouring of affection a cancer survivor gambled she was either gonna live to be 88 or clinton was going to win. her personal reasons for staying on the court have handed it to republican rule for the next 40 year s at least


She (probably correctly) judged that nobody could do what she did as well as she could.

I'm not going to call that arrogant, but it did reflect a level of self-focus that ends with everything she did going into the ash heap of history because she wouldn't pass the torch.
 
2020-09-19 9:50:13 AM  
Hey there 2016 non-voters and third-party voters. How are you doing? Listen, remember when we all told you that it matters who was President because that's who picks the judges? Remember that? Remember when we told you that yes, there is a difference between the two parties due to the judges who are chosen, and that the choice of judges will have an impact for decades to come?

Remember that? Remember how that wasn't enough for you to not make that stupid decision you made to vote third party or sit out the election? Remember how your actions in those swing states meant Trump was elected and got to pick those judges?

Yeah, we are all now reaping what you morans have sewn. You could have stopped this madness but you chose not to. You had one job and failed so spectacularly that this nation may not survive. (You and idiots like you got the ball rolling on that when you failed to vote in 2014 and 2010, but that's another rant.)

So good job. If you hate what's going on and are one of the people who had a chance to stop it but chose not to, this is on you. Feel free to blame yourself and feel bad for the rest of your life. This is as much your legacy as anyone else's.

So if you were hoping that maybe your failure wasn't as bad as we all you you it was, you can stop thinking that. It was. You failed and you failed hard. Hopefully we can start to fix this mess soon, but if it becomes a lot more difficult, look in the mirror to see who to blame.

/"But what about the Trump voters?" you ask.
//They wouldn't have been a factor if you had done your jobs.
///You can start to make up for it this time because now we need to vote because our lives actually depend on it. Thanks to you.
 
2020-09-19 9:50:22 AM  

Champion of the Sun: Your answer was from quora. Random guy on the street. How is baby fromed?


Ok, cite a source that says Trump can't nominate a judge while being impeached.
 
2020-09-19 9:51:46 AM  

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?


If you had to beg, plead, insult, cajole or threaten people to vote for your candidate, maybe you should accept a few realities.
 
2020-09-19 9:53:13 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: willwall: GrizzlyPouch: Shame on republicans for doing things legally the way it's described in the constitution.

We should do a bunch of illegal things or change all the rules, Like adding a bunch of new justices.  Or murdering all Republicans!

Here's a deal. You can have your sc vote but all the Republicans who were derelict in their constitutional duty for the gorsuch nomination need to step down and leave the Senate. Sound fair?

The only person derelict was Obama.  He nominates, senates decides whether to confirm.  It's been like this going on 300 yrs now.

He could've easily nominated somebody with an actual chance of being confirmed.


What was wrong with Garland, you putz?
 
2020-09-19 9:53:53 AM  

Farkonaut: Champion of the Sun: You think your guys' never ending excuses and cowardice

"You guys"

..so whats that make you?
Another lost conservative without a party?
Lets talk about who the cowards are in this scenario.

The ones sticking to their principles and ideals and not letting it turn us into 'them' or the idiots who allowed their party to be totally corrupted and now, instead of fixing it, they run away and complain that their alternative isn't authoritarian enough.

LOL you guys are farking pathetic.

This is no ones fault but GoP and the low-iq assholes that hump guns that love them.

fark all of them.


Cool. one 95 year old lady is all that was upholding the republic. But it ain't our fault.

Excuses excuses excuses. Nothing but excuses. Can't act. Can't help. Can't win.

America loves a winner and will not tolerate a loser. You guys centrists, moderates, establishment Democrats, whatever you wanna call yourselves, are complete farking losers.

The gop and their supporters are again getting absolutely everything they ever wanted. Your response? Tears and excuses. America will not tolerate a loser

Losers cry and excuse

Lots of tears and excuses. No plans I see.
 
2020-09-19 9:54:14 AM  
'History supports Republicans filling the seat.

Doing so would not be in any way inconsistent with Senate Republicans' holding open the seat vacated by Justice Antonin Scalia in 2016. The reason is simple, and was explained by Mitch McConnell at the time. Historically, throughout American history, when their party controls the Senate, presidents get to fill Supreme Court vacancies at any time - even in a presidential election year, even in a lame-duck session after the election, even after defeat. Historically, when the opposite party controls the Senate, the Senate gets to block Supreme Court nominees sent up in a presidential election year, and hold the seat open for the winner. Both of those precedents are settled by experience as old as the republic.

Republicans should not create a brand-new precedent to deviate from them.'


- Dan McLaughlin, National Review, August 7, 2020
 
2020-09-19 9:54:15 AM  

Champion of the Sun: But we can't do anything but wail.


But here you are on FARK with the rest of us.

No pitch fork.
No torch.

Just the spastic takka-takka of your grease caked keyboard pounding out your meaningless words.

So brave.
So tough.
 
2020-09-19 9:54:49 AM  

Uncle Eazy: They would be smart to wait until after the election. There may be a few R senators that would be hesitant to rubber stamp some Trump lunatic with an election in six weeks.

After the election it won't matter. Either they won and are in for another six years, or they lost and they're out and they'll be happy to burn the place down on the way out.


They need the fix in NOW, ahead of Trump's declaration of winning the election for the natural escalation to the Supreme court if contested.
 
2020-09-19 9:54:54 AM  

whosits_112: GrizzlyPouch: willwall: GrizzlyPouch: Shame on republicans for doing things legally the way it's described in the constitution.

We should do a bunch of illegal things or change all the rules, Like adding a bunch of new justices.  Or murdering all Republicans!

Here's a deal. You can have your sc vote but all the Republicans who were derelict in their constitutional duty for the gorsuch nomination need to step down and leave the Senate. Sound fair?

The only person derelict was Obama.  He nominates, senates decides whether to confirm.  It's been like this going on 300 yrs now.

He could've easily nominated somebody with an actual chance of being confirmed.

What was wrong with Garland, you putz?


Nothing that McConnell said. All he said was that he wouldn't let Obama confirm anyone because he was a "lame duck" President. So it doesn't matter who Obama nominated.
 
2020-09-19 9:55:05 AM  

Klyukva: Farkin_Crazy: Yes. Theresa Greenfield.

I tweeted at her, and so have others, already this morning that if she doesn't hammer Ernst on her fundraising email that went out 10 minutes after RBG's death was announced, I'd re-evaluate my vote for her.

I don't want a Senator who is going to stand by idly and watch this shiat happen without speaking up.

So you're saying you really would endanger the chance of a Democratic majority in the senate, or do you just hope she believes you would?


I'd leave it up to everyone else to figure that out.

If Greenfield doesn't stand up for what's right, why should I vote for her? I wouldn't feel like she could be considered a solid vote for doing the right thing.
 
2020-09-19 9:55:06 AM  

Biohazard Banana Suit: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Who are you talking to, exactly? Jill Stein voters?


The people in his head.
 
2020-09-19 9:55:23 AM  

Champion of the Sun: Farkonaut: Champion of the Sun: You think your guys' never ending excuses and cowardice

"You guys"

..so whats that make you?
Another lost conservative without a party?
Lets talk about who the cowards are in this scenario.

The ones sticking to their principles and ideals and not letting it turn us into 'them' or the idiots who allowed their party to be totally corrupted and now, instead of fixing it, they run away and complain that their alternative isn't authoritarian enough.

LOL you guys are farking pathetic.

This is no ones fault but GoP and the low-iq assholes that hump guns that love them.

fark all of them.

Cool. one 95 year old lady is all that was upholding the republic. But it ain't our fault.

Excuses excuses excuses. Nothing but excuses. Can't act. Can't help. Can't win.

America loves a winner and will not tolerate a loser. You guys centrists, moderates, establishment Democrats, whatever you wanna call yourselves, are complete farking losers.

The gop and their supporters are again getting absolutely everything they ever wanted. Your response? Tears and excuses. America will not tolerate a loser

Losers cry and excuse

Lots of tears and excuses. No plans I see.



Go change your own party.
 
2020-09-19 9:55:35 AM  
Barring some ground swell, I don't see anything stopping the Republicans from confirming whomever they choose.  And the ground doesn't look swollen at all.

The election comes next.  And who knows how that will go.  Waiting is going to be tough.
 
2020-09-19 9:55:49 AM  

soporific: Hey there 2016 non-voters and third-party voters. How are you doing? Listen, remember when we all told you that it matters who was President because that's who picks the judges? Remember that? Remember when we told you that yes, there is a difference between the two parties due to the judges who are chosen, and that the choice of judges will have an impact for decades to come?


Remember when you told them you didn't need them to win? Remember when instead of throwing them a bone you showed them your middle finger because it felt good to throw your weight around?

Yeah that wasn't a good idea. One of many unforced errors of the 2016 election, avoiding any of which would have changed the result.
 
2020-09-19 9:56:02 AM  

Farkonaut: Champion of the Sun: But we can't do anything but wail.

But here you are on FARK with the rest of us.

No pitch fork.
No torch.

Just the spastic takka-takka of your grease caked keyboard pounding out your meaningless words.

So brave.
So tough.


Call your representative and demand impeachment. Start a hashtag.

I'm not wrong cause I can't convince you cowards to do anything but whine and excuse the failures. You guys are wrong for sucking so much.

Are you masochists? Is that why you guys like losing so much?
 
2020-09-19 9:56:17 AM  

Champion of the Sun: Losers cry and excuse


Like making an excuse that you weren't wrong because you didn't like my source that showed you were wrong?
 
2020-09-19 9:56:18 AM  

LurkLongAndProsper: qorkfiend: LurkLongAndProsper: OldRod: chuckles5: I'd like to see Pelosi initiate impeachment proceedings in the house. Let that be resolved before considering a replacement for Justice Ginsberg.

She'll never do it, but that would be awesome!

She'd never do it because it wouldn't accomplish shiat. Good lord people. This is a Nancy Pelosi free conflict. If you need to use a bogeyman Democrat to signal to everyone that the do-nothing democrats are the real problem here, at least use Chuck Schumer. What in the world makes you think McConnell would even acknowledge anything going on in the house?

Actually that sort of parliamentary trickery could work. The objective wouldn't be to actually get someone removed, it would be to force the Senate to waste time on it.

Did the first impeachment proceedings stop the senate from seating judges? I was under the impression that nothing really has this whole time excepting the brief holds individual republicans have put on the process. Is there an actual rule or law that halts traffic through the senate while an impeachment is happening?


Permanently? No, and no one said it did. For a small amount of time? Indeed yes.
 
2020-09-19 9:57:19 AM  

Jaicu: Long list of Senators who promised to not act on SCOTUS vacancy until after election:

https://www.motherjones.com/2020-elect​ions/2020/09/a-long-list-of-gop-senato​rs-who-promised-not-to-confirm-a-supre​me-court-nominee-during-an-election-ye​ar/?fbclid=IwAR2OviZrLydFUtoTJh4ih6ZIU​tInJFAs3eumVv8N_yIeWOg00lDmzPoSA0A


If you take a Republican at their word, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you...
 
2020-09-19 9:58:47 AM  

jso2897: suebhoney: I am scared beyond words.

Don't be. Your first priority is to live your own life, take care of yourself, and thus maintain your potential capacity to help others. Make the right moral choices on a daily basis, participate in your society, send money, vote.
It may be that America made a mistake back in 2016 that it won't recover from without a hefty and painful price to be paid.
Life is like that sometimes - you f**k up, and it costs you, and all you can do is pay.
Hopefully, America will learn something.
Be be brave, be of good cheer, and purchase lots of guns and ammo.
Gardy loo!!


I'm permanently disabled. My son is an adult with autism and unable to work full time. Even if he could, he's just been put on a "No work leave" status because of covid19 (he works for a school district).

All we can do is vote. I tried volunteer work when I first became disabled, as well as going back to school, as things to fill my time and learn even more about helping my son (I was going for a degree as a direct support professional) and sadly soon found out that my disability renders me unreliable because it's completely unpredictable. I can be ok today and wake up tomorrow unable to walk. I can become bedridden for weeks at a time if I twist in a poor way from taking a shower.

I'm useless except in keeping up with paperwork for my son and I. I am great at providing emotional support for others, but that's usually all I can do.

We vote in every election. But beyond that, we are unable to help. 😪
 
2020-09-19 9:59:09 AM  

Mugato: Champion of the Sun: Losers cry and excuse

Like making an excuse that you weren't wrong because you didn't like my source that showed you were wrong?


LOL, Mr. Democrat hectoring over the rules (from quora, lol) instead of acting.

Joe Biden can piss his pants on tv. It's legal. But it wouldn't be a good strategy. Just like it wouldn't be a good strategy for the 23 gop senators up for election to have to push through another kavanaugh.

But keep debating the rules. Write a paper. Keep making excuses. Anything but take divisive action
 
2020-09-19 9:59:15 AM  
I was so worried that the country was farked that I retired early on Jan 20, 2017. A big part of that was that I didn't want to have security clearances at the same time as Trump. I thought there would be purges, fascism, violence in the streets, and blatant criminality protected by McConnell.

People were surprised, because I was entering the cruising altitude part of my career: big salary, but useful for wisdom and mentoring as opposed to twelve hour days in the labs. I tried to remind them that my well-known super power at work was spotting big problems far in advance of others and trying to mitigate them, but they were confused about why I was leaving so much money on the table.

I sure hope some of them eventually got it, as this has been a very pleasant 3.5 years (except for the doom scrolling).
 
2020-09-19 9:59:27 AM  
We always knew this is what Mitch was going to do. He's not the hypocrite though. It's the American media, including significant time by CNN talking heads, selling it to Americans so they would just accept it as normal and reasonable.

Are they going to admit they were duped? Or that they knew this all along and just spaced out telling the full story? The hypocrisy comes from mainstream media. Long ago we should have stopped trusting them to properly explore serious, contentious issues of importance.

Media sells the agenda of the power brokers. They sold McConnell's argument in 2016 as plausible, and Schumer rolling over for it as normal and reasonable.

And of course more than 1/2 the content is selling ads that brainwash people into being good little serfs / consumers.
 
2020-09-19 9:59:35 AM  

Bill the unknowing: Get everyone out to vote as much as possible. If you've got early voting do it. Then take a little trip to DC and surround it. This is the time to tell that motherfarker exactly what the PEOPLE want. And  be sure to let them know we're willing to forget the knife in this gun fight.


Early in-person voting has already begun in Pennsylvania, Minnesota, South Dakota, Virginia, Wyoming, Michigan, New Jersey, and Vermont, and will begin in Illinois next week
 
2020-09-19 10:00:25 AM  

Klyukva: Well, the important thing here is to accept no blame and learn nothing going forward, like the people in these threads fantasizing about farking the goat further by packing the court.


You say "packing the court."  We say "correcting republican cheating and extra constitutional behavior."

Because the one certain way to stop them from continuing to do this stuff is to shrug and roll over.  There is not an eye-roll big enough in the world.  They will never be satisfied while there are still democrats breathing air in this country.
 
2020-09-19 10:00:33 AM  
The worst part is people want him to do it.  They're cheering him on to ruin America for decades to come.
 
2020-09-19 10:01:52 AM  

keldaria: Prediction: McConnell won't have the votes to confirm a nominee because vulnerable Republicans will reject the idea of hitting the blue voter hornets nest with a stick because they are already swarming enough as it is. That said, on November 4th after it doesn't matter, those votes will magically materialize regardless of the outcome because the senators will have either lost and go into lame duck mode or they will have won and go into "this is the will of the people" mode.


Same prediction I'm making.
 
2020-09-19 10:02:05 AM  
So... I wonder how possible it is for Trump to dangle the nominee and hearing processes as bait to secure a vote for him, lining it up as close to November 3rd as possible. Ideally having the process start  on November 4th no matter what.

This way he gets the bait vote and then also installs the Justice in time to vote on a contested election as it escalates to the highest court.
 
2020-09-19 10:02:06 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: Klyukva: Farkin_Crazy: Yes. Theresa Greenfield.

I tweeted at her, and so have others, already this morning that if she doesn't hammer Ernst on her fundraising email that went out 10 minutes after RBG's death was announced, I'd re-evaluate my vote for her.

I don't want a Senator who is going to stand by idly and watch this shiat happen without speaking up.

So you're saying you really would endanger the chance of a Democratic majority in the senate, or do you just hope she believes you would?

I'd leave it up to everyone else to figure that out.

If Greenfield doesn't stand up for what's right, why should I vote for her? I wouldn't feel like she could be considered a solid vote for doing the right thing.


Are...are you kidding?
 
2020-09-19 10:03:05 AM  
I believe it's the prerogative of the POTUS to nominate a judge, but Trump does NOT belong in the White House. Period.
 
2020-09-19 10:03:50 AM  

Champion of the Sun: Mugato: Champion of the Sun: Losers cry and excuse

Like making an excuse that you weren't wrong because you didn't like my source that showed you were wrong?

LOL, Mr. Democrat hectoring over the rules (from quora, lol) instead of acting.

Joe Biden can piss his pants on tv. It's legal. But it wouldn't be a good strategy. Just like it wouldn't be a good strategy for the 23 gop senators up for election to have to push through another kavanaugh.

But keep debating the rules. Write a paper. Keep making excuses. Anything but take divisive action


You said that a President can't nominate a judge while being impeached. I showed you were wrong. And you're having a hissy fit. That's all.
 
2020-09-19 10:04:58 AM  
so a third of the Supreme Court will be installed by a guy who couldn't even get more votes in any single election.... and they are there for life? It's time for a new constitution, not just a new president.
 
2020-09-19 10:05:33 AM  

Champion of the Sun: Anything but take divisive action


the GOP has that covered. I'm sure you mean decisive...

Anyway, what form do you suggest this action takes?
 
2020-09-19 10:06:10 AM  

firefly212: so a third of the Supreme Court will be installed by a guy who couldn't even get more votes in any single election.... and they are there for life? It's time for a new constitution, not just a new president.


He gets another term and he could have five
 
2020-09-19 10:06:36 AM  
By the way, election day started last week, with in-person early voting in a couple of states. There is literally nothing in the constitution preventing a president from doing anything during the traditionally defined "lame duck" period.
 
2020-09-19 10:07:18 AM  
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2020-09-19 10:08:03 AM  
Lol this country is so farked. 5/7 of the justices will have been appointed by people who secured their presidencies with less votes and the Democrats won't have the balls to pack the court. What a farking mess.
 
2020-09-19 10:08:26 AM  

firefly212: so a third of the Supreme Court will be installed by a guy who couldn't even get more votes in any single election.... and they are there for life? It's time for a new constitution, not just a new president.


this is the purpose of amendments.
overall the document isn't too bad, just ill-defined in some areas. The amendments, too.

It is worth remembering that a constitution serves the people, not the other way around.
 
2020-09-19 10:09:30 AM  

Mugato: Champion of the Sun: Mugato: Champion of the Sun: Losers cry and excuse

Like making an excuse that you weren't wrong because you didn't like my source that showed you were wrong?

LOL, Mr. Democrat hectoring over the rules (from quora, lol) instead of acting.

Joe Biden can piss his pants on tv. It's legal. But it wouldn't be a good strategy. Just like it wouldn't be a good strategy for the 23 gop senators up for election to have to push through another kavanaugh.

But keep debating the rules. Write a paper. Keep making excuses. Anything but take divisive action

You said that a President can't nominate a judge while being impeached. I showed you were wrong. And you're having a hissy fit. That's all.


Ok, strategically improbable not impossible.

Congrats, you kinda won a pedantic debate, kinda?

Your excuse is solidified.  Good job everyone, we got our excuse.  Our job as democrats is done.
 
2020-09-19 10:09:38 AM  

Uranus: firefly212: so a third of the Supreme Court will be installed by a guy who couldn't even get more votes in any single election.... and they are there for life? It's time for a new constitution, not just a new president.

this is the purpose of amendments.
overall the document isn't too bad, just ill-defined in some areas. The amendments, too.

It is worth remembering that a constitution serves the people, not the other way around.


Which is why if the Republican party has anything to say about it, it will be one of the first things to go should they hold onto power and expand it.
 
2020-09-19 10:09:48 AM  

Blathering Idjut: Klyukva: Well, the important thing here is to accept no blame and learn nothing going forward, like the people in these threads fantasizing about farking the goat further by packing the court.

You say "packing the court."  We say "correcting republican cheating and extra constitutional behavior."

Because the one certain way to stop them from continuing to do this stuff is to shrug and roll over.  There is not an eye-roll big enough in the world.  They will never be satisfied while there are still democrats breathing air in this country.


Yeah I know right.. as if a court that legalizes health care, and equality among sexes and races, and creates a fair and just society for people is exactly the same as some authoritarian propaganda backed puppet president is trying to stack the courts to under the last 100 years of progress in the USA.

totes exactly the same, and both requires totes the same response.
 
2020-09-19 10:09:56 AM  

Uranus: firefly212: so a third of the Supreme Court will be installed by a guy who couldn't even get more votes in any single election.... and they are there for life? It's time for a new constitution, not just a new president.

this is the purpose of amendments.
overall the document isn't too bad, just ill-defined in some areas. The amendments, too.

It is worth remembering that a constitution serves the people, not the other way around.


The constitution is a rulebook. It doesn't serve anyone.
 
2020-09-19 10:09:57 AM  

AurizenDarkstar: Uranus: firefly212: so a third of the Supreme Court will be installed by a guy who couldn't even get more votes in any single election.... and they are there for life? It's time for a new constitution, not just a new president.

this is the purpose of amendments.
overall the document isn't too bad, just ill-defined in some areas. The amendments, too.

It is worth remembering that a constitution serves the people, not the other way around.

Which is why if the Republican party has anything to say about it, it will be one of the first things to go should they hold onto power and expand it.


Expand their power, not the Constitution.
 
2020-09-19 10:10:20 AM  
This isn't the Watergate era.  The guys breaking the rules won't just take their licks when busted.

The left does seem to be playing by the old rules and hoping something will happen.  People aren't outraged by what the right is doing.  They're ok with it.  It's working and winning in their eyes.

I'm not sure what the next move should be.   And I hate the thought of the kind of change the Dems will have to demonstrate to prevail, but the old ways aren't cutting it any more.   It's adapt or die time, or at least adapt or let the right take us back to pre 1970 USA time.
 
2020-09-19 10:11:20 AM  

qorkfiend: firefly212: so a third of the Supreme Court will be installed by a guy who couldn't even get more votes in any single election.... and they are there for life? It's time for a new constitution, not just a new president.

He gets another term and he could have five


My wildcard prediction, IF Trump loses in November, Thomas will immediately retire, letting Trump add another Justice to remain on the court for 40 years.
 
2020-09-19 10:11:46 AM  

Uranus: Champion of the Sun: Anything but take divisive action

the GOP has that covered. I'm sure you mean decisive...

Anyway, what form do you suggest this action takes?


1. Blame Jill Stein Voters
2. Put an overlay pic of RBG's scarf on my Facebook profile
3. Tell anyone who listens that no, we can't do that (regardless of what THAT is)
4. Lose again
 
2020-09-19 10:12:14 AM  
"authoritarianism as a response to social justice"  is going to sting really really bad when it's the explainer on your grand-kids social studies video on 2020 and the fall of the USA.
 
2020-09-19 10:13:03 AM  

Uranus: smileyphase: and consider relationships transactional.

Much like Donnie and women?


Much like Donnie and everything. Transactional and zero sum. I've got mine, Fark you. Benefits for me and not for thee.
 
2020-09-19 10:13:44 AM  

Champion of the Sun: Mugato: Champion of the Sun: Mugato: Champion of the Sun: Losers cry and excuse

Like making an excuse that you weren't wrong because you didn't like my source that showed you were wrong?

LOL, Mr. Democrat hectoring over the rules (from quora, lol) instead of acting.

Joe Biden can piss his pants on tv. It's legal. But it wouldn't be a good strategy. Just like it wouldn't be a good strategy for the 23 gop senators up for election to have to push through another kavanaugh.

But keep debating the rules. Write a paper. Keep making excuses. Anything but take divisive action

You said that a President can't nominate a judge while being impeached. I showed you were wrong. And you're having a hissy fit. That's all.

Ok, strategically improbable not impossible.

Congrats, you kinda won a pedantic debate, kinda?

Your excuse is solidified.  Good job everyone, we got our excuse.  Our job as democrats is done.


Look, we're basically on the same side here. I just don't think another impeachment would do anything and might actually get Trump more votes because he'll play this as being constantly persecuted but constantly prevailing.
 
2020-09-19 10:14:19 AM  
I'm betting on him using a bought-and-paid-for SCOTUS to contest the election when he looses. IF that happens things are gonna get interesting in a bad way.

/ Trump term 2: Oops! All Facists!
 
2020-09-19 10:16:12 AM  

D_PaulAngel: Can't win a contested election if you don't own the courts.


Oh the delicious irony. Replay of Bush-Gore in 2020. Except now with Associate Justice William Barr.
 
2020-09-19 10:16:41 AM  
Gooch:
Now we get to see more liberal handwringing as we get the partiest bro who ever partied confirmed within 6 weeks, or we get some underqualified young chippie just to throw a bone to feminism sort of like how Old Bush and Biden saluted Civil rights by replacing Marshall with a much inferior (but darker skinned!) Thomas.

No. Even better. It'll be woman under 50, who has the same belief system as a Michelle Bachmann but doesn't come off as bashiat, and the legal acumen of Scalia. She'll be on the bench for 40 years.

The only way out is to vote, and win the presidency and the senate. That's what Republicans did to get to this moment so they win the game. You don't win elections, you don't win the game, you lose.

The proper way to balance this *inevitable* seating of a 3rd Trump appointee, is for a Democratically controlled Senate to cast aside the last remnants of the filibuster, bump the court to 11, seat two Biden appointees, and end colonialism by admitting all remaining colonies as states or free them.
 
2020-09-19 10:18:26 AM  
I mean Trump skated on the bounties against our military, calling soldiers suckers and losers, and praising the Confederacy.  And NOTHING HAPPENED.  There was no outrage.


We're in new territory here and I just don't think the normal approach is going to help or work.  The left has to do something extraordinary or we're toast.
 
2020-09-19 10:19:41 AM  

AirForceVet: Alphax: [Fark user image image 850x443]

Barr cannot be on the SCOTUS if convicted and in prison.

/I think positively most times.


Are you POSITIVE about that? Because I don't know, offhand, of any requirement that a SCOTUS nominee have any qualifications at all.
 
2020-09-19 10:19:52 AM  

buttercat: We're in new territory here and I just don't think the normal approach is going to help or work. The left has to do something extraordinary or we're toast.


We're using the Republicans' words against them.  Shaming them on their hypocrisy always works.
 
2020-09-19 10:20:40 AM  

qorkfiend:

The constitution is a rulebook. It doesn't serve anyone.

weird position. This means you might as well scrap it, and move on, as it is without purpose. Who are these rules to serve then?

Champion of the Sun: Uranus: Champion of the Sun: Anything but take divisive action

the GOP has that covered. I'm sure you mean decisive...

Anyway, what form do you suggest this action takes?

1. Blame Jill Stein Voters
2. Put an overlay pic of RBG's scarf on my Facebook profile
3. Tell anyone who listens that no, we can't do that (regardless of what THAT is)
4. Lose again

This

is what you have? A  list facetious hot air item? No, what I want from you is what youdefine as "decisive action." It is, after all, what you excoriate others for not taking. At very least take the time, and have the courage, to think about and define the terms.

AurizenDarkstar:

Which is why if the Republican party has anything to say about it, it will be one of the first things to go should they hold onto power and expand it.

Fortunately, it has less say than it thinks. This is a very unlikely scenario, unless all of America chooses to abdicate it's personal liberty.
 
2020-09-19 10:20:45 AM  

chrismurphy: Gooch:
Now we get to see more liberal handwringing as we get the partiest bro who ever partied confirmed within 6 weeks, or we get some underqualified young chippie just to throw a bone to feminism sort of like how Old Bush and Biden saluted Civil rights by replacing Marshall with a much inferior (but darker skinned!) Thomas.

No. Even better. It'll be woman under 50, who has the same belief system as a Michelle Bachmann but doesn't come off as bashiat, and the legal acumen of Scalia. She'll be on the bench for 40 years.

The only way out is to vote, and win the presidency and the senate. That's what Republicans did to get to this moment so they win the game. You don't win elections, you don't win the game, you lose.

The proper way to balance this *inevitable* seating of a 3rd Trump appointee, is for a Democratically controlled Senate to cast aside the last remnants of the filibuster, bump the court to 11, seat two Biden appointees, and end colonialism by admitting all remaining colonies as states or free them.


Any Coney Barrett
 
2020-09-19 10:21:36 AM  

qorkfiend: chrismurphy: Gooch:
Now we get to see more liberal handwringing as we get the partiest bro who ever partied confirmed within 6 weeks, or we get some underqualified young chippie just to throw a bone to feminism sort of like how Old Bush and Biden saluted Civil rights by replacing Marshall with a much inferior (but darker skinned!) Thomas.

No. Even better. It'll be woman under 50, who has the same belief system as a Michelle Bachmann but doesn't come off as bashiat, and the legal acumen of Scalia. She'll be on the bench for 40 years.

The only way out is to vote, and win the presidency and the senate. That's what Republicans did to get to this moment so they win the game. You don't win elections, you don't win the game, you lose.

The proper way to balance this *inevitable* seating of a 3rd Trump appointee, is for a Democratically controlled Senate to cast aside the last remnants of the filibuster, bump the court to 11, seat two Biden appointees, and end colonialism by admitting all remaining colonies as states or free them.

Any Coney Barrett


*Amy
 
2020-09-19 10:21:36 AM  
At least one talking point has been released that I'm seeing.  It is perfectly OK to fill this seat under these circumstances because the Democrats would too, if they could.  The trumpublicans cheat and lie, therefore they assume everyone does.
 
2020-09-19 10:22:20 AM  

Uranus: qorkfiend:

The constitution is a rulebook. It doesn't serve anyone.

weird position. This means you might as well scrap it, and move on, as it is without purpose. Who are these rules to serve then?

Champion of the Sun: Uranus: Champion of the Sun: Anything but take divisive action

the GOP has that covered. I'm sure you mean decisive...

Anyway, what form do you suggest this action takes?

1. Blame Jill Stein Voters
2. Put an overlay pic of RBG's scarf on my Facebook profile
3. Tell anyone who listens that no, we can't do that (regardless of what THAT is)
4. Lose again

This is what you have? A  list facetious hot air item? No, what I want from you is what youdefine as "decisive action." It is, after all, what you excoriate others for not taking. At very least take the time, and have the courage, to think about and define the terms.

AurizenDarkstar:

Which is why if the Republican party has anything to say about it, it will be one of the first things to go should they hold onto power and expand it.

Fortunately, it has less say than it thinks. This is a very unlikely scenario, unless all of America chooses to abdicate it's personal liberty.


Ctrl+f "impeachment"  47 results
 
2020-09-19 10:25:29 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: I hope they nominate the biggest anti-abortion/anti-woman/anti-gay/anti​-American asshole they can find.  Another Kavanaugh.  Rip open the national psyche right before the election.


Actually, that's how it may work out.  And listen, the supreme court will matter less if we have the two houses and white house to write and sign progressive laws into place.  We already had the courts shoot down the voting rights act WITH RBG in it.  Now we can rewrite it and apply it to every state and the courts will have to figure out some other reason to shoot it down, but it will take time and in the meantime, it'll make supporession harder.  Smart with gay rights and voting laws, etc.

The game isn't lost.  We lost a valuable piece.  Our queen, if you will.  But other pieces, well placed, can still win the game.
 
2020-09-19 10:25:39 AM  
All of you could have just moved to Kentucky any time in the last 40 years and voted him out, but nahhhh, that's much too difficult. Better to just biatch and moan online about how unfair he is.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
2020-09-19 10:27:51 AM  

freetomato: At least one talking point has been released that I'm seeing.  It is perfectly OK to fill this seat under these circumstances because the Democrats would too, if they could.  The trumpublicans cheat and lie, therefore they assume everyone does.


How Trump plays golf is how he treats life, and now how Republicans view political behavior.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-co​l​umnists/donald-trump-the-serial-golf-c​heat-in-the-white-house
 
2020-09-19 10:30:48 AM  
Pro-impeachment artists translated --> Wahhh! We can't do the hard work of winning elections! We need to pass the buck onto our elected officials, who still haven't gotten *children still in cages* released, to try and get fat orange fark face out of office knowing in advance this will fail but at least it runs out the clock, just like a Republican would do! To win, we have to think and act like Republicans! Except, we should still not win elections! Because Republicans win elections and that we should not do! Because then we'd actually have to do something with that power and what we want is a Republican in office so we can cry like babies about it! <--

Like farking seriously, win the presidency. And win the Senate. Court goes to 11. Puerto Rico becomes a state, if they want, and if they don't want then they should be set free. Cut them lose or get married. Stop playing games with impeachment. Stop playing games with Puerto Rico. Get serious.
 
2020-09-19 10:31:32 AM  

koder: It remains unclear whether Republicans would have the votes to make a new appointment before Nov. 3.

Oh they'll have the votes. The entire election hinges on prematurely declaring Trump the winner. They'll call all The Families in for every Favor.


If they cheat and the supreme court helps, I fully expect that some liberal gun owner will seek a second amendment solution.

The ironic thing is, I always thought the stupidity of the whole "guns to fight tyranny" implied that you didn't have faith in our democracy as it exists.  So people buying guns to fight the government basically had no faith in the democratic process our founders created.

Now THOSE people have subverted the process and created an environment where LIBERALS have lost faith in the democratic institutions we used to trust.  That's how this will go down.  You'll see liberals voting and fighting and organizing and if none of it matters, if they somehow steal the presidency anyway and the courts helps them, there will be bloodshed.  Somebody will break out their sniper rifle and go on a hunting spree.

I hope not.  I hope none of that happens.  But if it does, I hope they start with Moscow Mitch.
 
2020-09-19 10:31:35 AM  

qorkfiend: Farkin_Crazy: Klyukva: Farkin_Crazy: Yes. Theresa Greenfield.

I tweeted at her, and so have others, already this morning that if she doesn't hammer Ernst on her fundraising email that went out 10 minutes after RBG's death was announced, I'd re-evaluate my vote for her.

I don't want a Senator who is going to stand by idly and watch this shiat happen without speaking up.

So you're saying you really would endanger the chance of a Democratic majority in the senate, or do you just hope she believes you would?

I'd leave it up to everyone else to figure that out.

If Greenfield doesn't stand up for what's right, why should I vote for her? I wouldn't feel like she could be considered a solid vote for doing the right thing.

Are...are you kidding?


Would you vote for someone who sits by and doesn't call Ernst out for that email?
 
2020-09-19 10:32:02 AM  

kyuzokai: kyuzokai: JimmyTheHutt: vpb: EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.

Expand the size of the SC and pack the court.

None of which is possible now.  There is no path that allows that to happen.
Biden can't win the election now, and McConnell will guarantee that.  He will have someone on that bench by next week.

This is my biggest fear. McConnell pulls every favor, makes every empty promise, all hinging on "if you just fall in one last time, with this SC appointment we can steal the election, and then we will be in a position to never lose power again". And it will probably work, and with that the Republic as we know it will be well and truly over.

postscript... we all might wanna start learning Chinese, since they'll be the global power in a few years (months?) if Mitch gets his SC appointment.


Mitch is way ahead of you. Mrs. McConnell was born in Taiwan and lived there until she was 8.

Interesting fun facts, Elaine Chao's mother was named "Ruth Mulan". As a child only eight years old, Ruth journeyed alone back to her town in China to reclaim the family's gold that had been hidden away on their land.

How many of you have done that? I'm presuming Ruth knew how to kill a Japanese soldier with a knife concealed in a teddy bear.

So now here we are.


The irony makes me want to kill myself.
 
2020-09-19 10:32:05 AM  

chrismurphy: We need to pass the buck onto our elected officials


We need to pass the buck onto our elected officials
 
2020-09-19 10:34:06 AM  
qorkfiend: chrismurphy:
No. Even better. It'll be woman under 50, who has the same belief system as a Michelle Bachmann but doesn't come off as bashiat, and the legal acumen of Scalia. She'll be on the bench for 40 years.

Any Coney Barrett
*Amy


Actually I was thinking of Ted Cruz.
 
2020-09-19 10:37:35 AM  
buttercat:

And yet if McConnell nominates somebody he hasn't broken any rules.

There are plenty of options here for Dems.  This is what I'd do:

If trump nominates somebody, the Dems should just not show up.  Same thing with the 4 liberal SCOTUS justices.  Just stop showing up for work until November.

The sheer spectacle would be political gold for them.  that's a better option than:

-whine
-stack the court(never happen)
-widespread murder of republicans
-or all out revolution

Which seem to be the front runners. Just don't show up (that's how u protest)

That, or start robbing Walmarts I guess. That'll show em.
 
2020-09-19 10:40:41 AM  
And we are about to see exactly why Evangelicals support the republican party, McConnell, and especially Trump. Their wish for the death of Roe v Wade was only matched by their wish for the death of Justice Ginsburg.

Motherf'k this timeline. Not even going to ask what else could happen this year, because I really don't want to know.
 
2020-09-19 10:42:44 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: qorkfiend: Farkin_Crazy: Klyukva: Farkin_Crazy: Yes. Theresa Greenfield.

I tweeted at her, and so have others, already this morning that if she doesn't hammer Ernst on her fundraising email that went out 10 minutes after RBG's death was announced, I'd re-evaluate my vote for her.

I don't want a Senator who is going to stand by idly and watch this shiat happen without speaking up.

So you're saying you really would endanger the chance of a Democratic majority in the senate, or do you just hope she believes you would?

I'd leave it up to everyone else to figure that out.

If Greenfield doesn't stand up for what's right, why should I vote for her? I wouldn't feel like she could be considered a solid vote for doing the right thing.

Are...are you kidding?

Would you vote for someone who sits by and doesn't call Ernst out for that email?


Would I stand by in 2020 while a fascist-enabling Republican is elected to the Senate? No, I farking would not, and you're a real piece of shiat if you would.
 
2020-09-19 10:43:30 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: We should do a bunch of illegal things or change all the rules, Like adding a bunch of new justices.  Or murdering all Republicans!


I'm ok with this.
 
2020-09-19 10:44:26 AM  
I fear that if they seat a SCOTUS it s going to make real violence inevitable.

POC, LGBTQ, etc are not going to go quietly

and once they do away with abortion the court will then get down to their corporate agenda and the trumpers will then see that they voted in their own doom
 
2020-09-19 10:45:07 AM  
"Ernst is a fascist, but Greenfield didn't respond to one thing in the way I wanted her to, so I guess I have no choice but to sit this one out."

Jesus farking Christ. What the fark is wrong with you?
 
2020-09-19 10:47:52 AM  
I am not just going to piss on McConnell's grave, I am going to take a dump, probably two.
 
2020-09-19 10:48:03 AM  

Alphax: danvon: MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???

I saw Murkowsky say that, who was the other one? As far as I know, the VP would be a tie breaker.

Another thread said Mitt Romney.. and a couple others.  Perhaps even Lindsey Graham.. which sounds like a long shot, but he may be desperate enough to keep his 'job'.


Subtract one for that rat bastard from West Virginia whose name I can't be bothered to look up.
 
2020-09-19 10:48:09 AM  

kindms: real violence inevitable.


wtf has been happening the past 5 months?
 
2020-09-19 10:49:16 AM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: kindms: real violence inevitable.

wtf has been happening the past 5 months?


House party.
 
2020-09-19 10:49:26 AM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: kindms: real violence inevitable.

wtf has been happening the past 5 months?


Property destruction.

Not, uh, maybe the kind of real violence the other poster is referring to.
 
2020-09-19 10:50:18 AM  

qorkfiend: Farkin_Crazy: qorkfiend: Farkin_Crazy: Klyukva: Farkin_Crazy: Yes. Theresa Greenfield.

I tweeted at her, and so have others, already this morning that if she doesn't hammer Ernst on her fundraising email that went out 10 minutes after RBG's death was announced, I'd re-evaluate my vote for her.

I don't want a Senator who is going to stand by idly and watch this shiat happen without speaking up.

So you're saying you really would endanger the chance of a Democratic majority in the senate, or do you just hope she believes you would?

I'd leave it up to everyone else to figure that out.

If Greenfield doesn't stand up for what's right, why should I vote for her? I wouldn't feel like she could be considered a solid vote for doing the right thing.

Are...are you kidding?

Would you vote for someone who sits by and doesn't call Ernst out for that email?

Would I stand by in 2020 while a fascist-enabling Republican is elected to the Senate? No, I farking would not, and you're a real piece of shiat if you would.


Eat shiat.

It's my vote. If TG doesn't stand up for herself, why should I?

And I wouldn't cast a vote for Ernst FYI.
 
2020-09-19 10:50:22 AM  
Don't worry everyone. Check out this poll.

Fark user imageView Full Size


The seat is safe.
 
2020-09-19 10:50:53 AM  
So they push this this thru before nov 3rd? Ted Cruz is confirmed.  The election becomes Florida recount 2000 nightmare on compound V, court declares Trump winner for life, the sky rips open and a giant Robbie Rotten from LazyTown destroys what's left of the planet?
Does that sound possible? Cause I just don't know anymore.
 
2020-09-19 10:51:01 AM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: kindms: real violence inevitable.

wtf has been happening the past 5 months?


kid stuff. people have shown up to be peaceful, they havent been planting bombs and looking to attend softball games. yes there has been some violence but it was an offshoot and not the primary focus for the vast majority of people protesting.
 
2020-09-19 10:51:12 AM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: kindms: real violence inevitable.

wtf has been happening the past 5 months?


Our president is declaring the election to be invalid if he loses. You know, like dictators do. And now he is stacking the legal body that would stop him with Toadies that may let him just go on being a de facto dictator.
 
2020-09-19 10:51:25 AM  

JerkStore: I'm ok with this.


Pretty sure everyone not highlighted in troll colors on this website is. Let them all get raptured up and leave the planet to the non-idiots, maybe we can fix it in time.
 
2020-09-19 10:52:53 AM  

Murkanen: GrizzlyPouch:

Obama could've easily sat down with Republicans, came up with a list and nominated somebody they'd actually confirm.

He did.

They told him they'd be willing to confirm Merrick Garland because he was still a conservative jurist, if not quite as ignorant and blindly partisan as Scalia, so that's who he nominated.

Then they refused to give Garland a vote.


This was brilliant strategy on the part of McConnell, btw.  They forced Obama to pick a generic center-right white guy with absolutely no dedicated constituency on the left, and then sank the nomination.  If Obama had picked someone who inspired key democratic voters the obstructionism would have been major news, with protests, street theater, social media campaigns, the whole ladida. That in turn would have helped drive turnout for Clinton.  A woman or a member of a minority group (or both) would have been obstructed just as hard, but people would have noticed and some of them would have cared enough to get out and protest, vote, volunteer, donate, etc.  The driving narrative of the 2016 campaign would have been republican obstruction, a far better message than "I'll be like Obama but a bit more centrist."

McConnell may be a festering pustule on the ass of humanity but he knows politics. His handling of the Green New Deal was similarly skillful - he popped the bubble of media interest in under a week.
 
2020-09-19 10:54:09 AM  
Dems, if you win, don't hold back.

Pack the courts. Undo the gerrymandering. Punish the criminals.
 
2020-09-19 10:55:39 AM  

Champion of the Sun: buttercat: We're in new territory here and I just don't think the normal approach is going to help or work. The left has to do something extraordinary or we're toast.

We're using the Republicans' words against them.  Shaming them on their hypocrisy always works.


They don't have shame.
 
2020-09-19 10:57:52 AM  
So it is time for our pool boys to make a sacrifice and go to public toilets near republican offices, remembering to bring a camera.
 
2020-09-19 10:58:42 AM  
Just convince the crazy people that everyone he puts in there are russian plants, and they will be gunned down in sequence
 
2020-09-19 10:59:28 AM  

Klyukva: RyogaM: Linux_Yes: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Dems need to delay just like the repugs did.

They can't, they are the in the minority.  The Repugs could do it in 2012 because they were the majority.


[Fark user image 850x400]

Don't worry. There's always the judicial filibuster. Oh wait no there isn't, lol.


bullshiat, he was going to ram through a SCOTUS nominee no matter what.
 
2020-09-19 11:00:20 AM  

NewportBarGuy: They're going to nominate Merrick Garland?


Merrick Garland was the conservative nominee the Senate Republicans publicly announced they wanted before Obama actually nominated him.
 
2020-09-19 11:00:24 AM  

Klyukva: Don't worry everyone. Check out this poll.

[Fark user image image 750x873]

The seat is safe.


i.ytimg.comView Full Size
 
2020-09-19 11:01:04 AM  

chrismurphy: qorkfiend: chrismurphy:
No. Even better. It'll be woman under 50, who has the same belief system as a Michelle Bachmann but doesn't come off as bashiat, and the legal acumen of Scalia. She'll be on the bench for 40 years.

Any Coney Barrett
*Amy

Actually I was thinking of Ted Cruz.


A sitting senator won't be nominated. That would take away one of their votes. With Romney already against it that's a bridge McConnell would never allow Trump to cross.
 
2020-09-19 11:01:15 AM  
Pernicious Q. Varmint:

Exactly.  And there was nothing stopping Obama from withdrawing Garland and doing just that.

And this is what I'm getting at.  Republicans use political maneuvering that's within the boundaries of the law.

And then Dems either pout, or they call republicans a bunch of names (ists and phobes and deplorables).  Demonize and dehumanize you're opponent if u can't beat them legally.

And republicans are fascists. (See.  More name calling)
 
2020-09-19 11:01:35 AM  

Masakyst: Dems, if you win, don't hold back.

Pack the courts. Undo the gerrymandering. Punish the criminals.


they have to do all of this or the party will shatter. if they won't protect us, no one will. If they are going to hang us out to dry after all this, then there truly is no hope.
 
2020-09-19 11:02:34 AM  

tekmo: NewportBarGuy: They're going to nominate Merrick Garland?

Merrick Garland was the conservative nominee the Senate Republicans publicly announced they wanted before Obama actually nominated him.


Prepare for Roy Moore.
 
2020-09-19 11:02:52 AM  

Klyukva: Don't worry everyone. Check out this poll.

[Fark user image image 750x873]

The seat is safe.


Like the Turtle would ever care about that poll.
 
2020-09-19 11:03:48 AM  

FarkBucket18: All of you could have just moved to Kentucky any time in the last 40 years and voted him out, but nahhhh, that's much too difficult. Better to just biatch and moan online about how unfair he is.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Hunh. So there were 17 FarkBuckets before you. Way to be born on 3rd.
 
2020-09-19 11:04:40 AM  
Lame duck appointment. No consequences with goldfish memory voters.
 
2020-09-19 11:05:56 AM  

BafflerMeal: FarkBucket18: All of you could have just moved to Kentucky any time in the last 40 years and voted him out, but nahhhh, that's much too difficult. Better to just biatch and moan online about how unfair he is.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hunh. So there were 17 FarkBuckets before you. Way to be born on 3rd.


I wonder if the other 17 were better trolls.
 
2020-09-19 11:06:40 AM  
All I know is that if Biden wins, Breyer needs to resign in a year or so, so he can be replaced with a Biden nominee before he starts getting sick.
 
2020-09-19 11:07:38 AM  
Personally I think Obama should be hog tied and forced into the vacant seat.  I have no doubt that he doesn't want it, but at this point I do not think he should be given a choice.
 
2020-09-19 11:08:12 AM  

Uranus: Champion of the Sun: But we can't do anything but wail.

you can, but it requires effort.


lol, this guy only puts effort into dissuading people from voting for Dems. Blatant, hostile shtick that gets plenty of bites. Best to call it out and move on.
 
2020-09-19 11:08:25 AM  

kbronsito: EvilEgg: You don't understand, Hillary didn't inspire me!


She was a terrible candidate who ran a shiatty campaign and still won the popular election, overwhelmingly.

The problem is that OUR VOTES DON'T COUNT.
 
2020-09-19 11:08:29 AM  

Klyukva: Don't worry everyone. Check out this poll.

[Fark user image 750x873]

The seat is safe.


the entire Republican agenda polls at something like -20. why do you think they want the courts so badly? They know they can't push the agenda thru congress so they are packing courts to undo all progressive legislation for the past 80 years. The whole plan is "rule from the bench" with no political accountability whatsoever. The only one not on board for the plan is Roberts and he's now irrelevant.

They will push it through before the election. Doing so equals total victory. They will not miss the chance.
 
2020-09-19 11:10:20 AM  
Defeating Trump really needs to be secondary to getting McConnell defeated and his whore wife out of the boardroom as well.
 
2020-09-19 11:10:28 AM  

suebhoney: durbnpoisn: I wrote about this very thing in my blog, a few minutes ago.  I had to tone down my anger about this.  Because make no mistake, I am FURIOUS about!

And I am completely terrified that the absolute worst case scenario is about to unfold.

We will lose the court.  Trump will cheat.  They will side with him.
And our Democracy dies, just like that.

I hope to hell I'm wrong.  I really REALLY hope I'm wrong.

I was feeling dread about 6 weeks ago, and it lightened up about 2 weeks ago.

Now that feeling of dread is back and it's 100 fold worse than my initial feeling.

I honestly believe America is done and that sometime within the next 2 years (or less), my SSDI will be taken away, as well as my son's and mine SNAP benefits, and my son's Medicaid. We will be homeless before those 2 years are up & there won't be anyone who will help us, as all social safety nets will be dismantled. 

RBG passing is the absolute worst thing that could have happened right now.

I am scared beyond words.


Sorry about that.  That's horrifying.

Our only hope is that the SCOTUS does the right thing regardless of politics.
 
2020-09-19 11:11:25 AM  

Klyukva: Don't worry everyone. Check out this poll.

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The seat is safe.


Safe. Ha! As if McConnell would be dissuaded by something as inconvenient as the will of the voters.
 
2020-09-19 11:11:59 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: Pernicious Q. Varmint:

Exactly.  And there was nothing stopping Obama from withdrawing Garland and doing just that.

And this is what I'm getting at.  Republicans use political maneuvering that's within the boundaries of the law.

And then Dems either pout, or they call republicans a bunch of names (ists and phobes and deplorables).  Demonize and dehumanize you're opponent if u can't beat them legally.

And republicans are fascists. (See.  More name calling)


Remind me again: is soliciting foreign interference live on TV, and denying a president their constitutionally delegated authority "within the rules"? Does it even friggin matter anymore when the referees are parts of the teams on the field?
 
2020-09-19 11:14:47 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: Pernicious Q. Varmint:

Exactly.  And there was nothing stopping Obama from withdrawing Garland and doing just that.

And this is what I'm getting at.  Republicans use political maneuvering that's within the boundaries of the law.

And then Dems either pout, or they call republicans a bunch of names (ists and phobes and deplorables).  Demonize and dehumanize you're opponent if u can't beat them legally.

And republicans are fascists. (See.