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(NBC News)   And here we go: McConnell intends to fill RBG's empty seat before it even has time to get cold   (nbcnews.com) divider line
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2020-09-19 10:14:19 AM  
I'm betting on him using a bought-and-paid-for SCOTUS to contest the election when he looses. IF that happens things are gonna get interesting in a bad way.

/ Trump term 2: Oops! All Facists!
 
2020-09-19 10:16:12 AM  

D_PaulAngel: Can't win a contested election if you don't own the courts.


Oh the delicious irony. Replay of Bush-Gore in 2020. Except now with Associate Justice William Barr.
 
2020-09-19 10:16:41 AM  
Gooch:
Now we get to see more liberal handwringing as we get the partiest bro who ever partied confirmed within 6 weeks, or we get some underqualified young chippie just to throw a bone to feminism sort of like how Old Bush and Biden saluted Civil rights by replacing Marshall with a much inferior (but darker skinned!) Thomas.

No. Even better. It'll be woman under 50, who has the same belief system as a Michelle Bachmann but doesn't come off as bashiat, and the legal acumen of Scalia. She'll be on the bench for 40 years.

The only way out is to vote, and win the presidency and the senate. That's what Republicans did to get to this moment so they win the game. You don't win elections, you don't win the game, you lose.

The proper way to balance this *inevitable* seating of a 3rd Trump appointee, is for a Democratically controlled Senate to cast aside the last remnants of the filibuster, bump the court to 11, seat two Biden appointees, and end colonialism by admitting all remaining colonies as states or free them.
 
2020-09-19 10:18:26 AM  
I mean Trump skated on the bounties against our military, calling soldiers suckers and losers, and praising the Confederacy.  And NOTHING HAPPENED.  There was no outrage.


We're in new territory here and I just don't think the normal approach is going to help or work.  The left has to do something extraordinary or we're toast.
 
2020-09-19 10:19:41 AM  

AirForceVet: Alphax: [Fark user image image 850x443]

Barr cannot be on the SCOTUS if convicted and in prison.

/I think positively most times.


Are you POSITIVE about that? Because I don't know, offhand, of any requirement that a SCOTUS nominee have any qualifications at all.
 
2020-09-19 10:19:52 AM  

buttercat: We're in new territory here and I just don't think the normal approach is going to help or work. The left has to do something extraordinary or we're toast.


We're using the Republicans' words against them.  Shaming them on their hypocrisy always works.
 
2020-09-19 10:20:40 AM  

qorkfiend:

The constitution is a rulebook. It doesn't serve anyone.

weird position. This means you might as well scrap it, and move on, as it is without purpose. Who are these rules to serve then?

Champion of the Sun: Uranus: Champion of the Sun: Anything but take divisive action

the GOP has that covered. I'm sure you mean decisive...

Anyway, what form do you suggest this action takes?

1. Blame Jill Stein Voters
2. Put an overlay pic of RBG's scarf on my Facebook profile
3. Tell anyone who listens that no, we can't do that (regardless of what THAT is)
4. Lose again

This

is what you have? A  list facetious hot air item? No, what I want from you is what youdefine as "decisive action." It is, after all, what you excoriate others for not taking. At very least take the time, and have the courage, to think about and define the terms.

AurizenDarkstar:

Which is why if the Republican party has anything to say about it, it will be one of the first things to go should they hold onto power and expand it.

Fortunately, it has less say than it thinks. This is a very unlikely scenario, unless all of America chooses to abdicate it's personal liberty.
 
2020-09-19 10:20:45 AM  

chrismurphy: Gooch:
Now we get to see more liberal handwringing as we get the partiest bro who ever partied confirmed within 6 weeks, or we get some underqualified young chippie just to throw a bone to feminism sort of like how Old Bush and Biden saluted Civil rights by replacing Marshall with a much inferior (but darker skinned!) Thomas.

No. Even better. It'll be woman under 50, who has the same belief system as a Michelle Bachmann but doesn't come off as bashiat, and the legal acumen of Scalia. She'll be on the bench for 40 years.

The only way out is to vote, and win the presidency and the senate. That's what Republicans did to get to this moment so they win the game. You don't win elections, you don't win the game, you lose.

The proper way to balance this *inevitable* seating of a 3rd Trump appointee, is for a Democratically controlled Senate to cast aside the last remnants of the filibuster, bump the court to 11, seat two Biden appointees, and end colonialism by admitting all remaining colonies as states or free them.


Any Coney Barrett
 
2020-09-19 10:21:36 AM  

qorkfiend: chrismurphy: Gooch:
Now we get to see more liberal handwringing as we get the partiest bro who ever partied confirmed within 6 weeks, or we get some underqualified young chippie just to throw a bone to feminism sort of like how Old Bush and Biden saluted Civil rights by replacing Marshall with a much inferior (but darker skinned!) Thomas.

No. Even better. It'll be woman under 50, who has the same belief system as a Michelle Bachmann but doesn't come off as bashiat, and the legal acumen of Scalia. She'll be on the bench for 40 years.

The only way out is to vote, and win the presidency and the senate. That's what Republicans did to get to this moment so they win the game. You don't win elections, you don't win the game, you lose.

The proper way to balance this *inevitable* seating of a 3rd Trump appointee, is for a Democratically controlled Senate to cast aside the last remnants of the filibuster, bump the court to 11, seat two Biden appointees, and end colonialism by admitting all remaining colonies as states or free them.

Any Coney Barrett


*Amy
 
2020-09-19 10:21:36 AM  
At least one talking point has been released that I'm seeing.  It is perfectly OK to fill this seat under these circumstances because the Democrats would too, if they could.  The trumpublicans cheat and lie, therefore they assume everyone does.
 
2020-09-19 10:22:20 AM  

Uranus: qorkfiend:

The constitution is a rulebook. It doesn't serve anyone.

weird position. This means you might as well scrap it, and move on, as it is without purpose. Who are these rules to serve then?

Champion of the Sun: Uranus: Champion of the Sun: Anything but take divisive action

the GOP has that covered. I'm sure you mean decisive...

Anyway, what form do you suggest this action takes?

1. Blame Jill Stein Voters
2. Put an overlay pic of RBG's scarf on my Facebook profile
3. Tell anyone who listens that no, we can't do that (regardless of what THAT is)
4. Lose again

This is what you have? A  list facetious hot air item? No, what I want from you is what youdefine as "decisive action." It is, after all, what you excoriate others for not taking. At very least take the time, and have the courage, to think about and define the terms.

AurizenDarkstar:

Which is why if the Republican party has anything to say about it, it will be one of the first things to go should they hold onto power and expand it.

Fortunately, it has less say than it thinks. This is a very unlikely scenario, unless all of America chooses to abdicate it's personal liberty.


Ctrl+f "impeachment"  47 results
 
2020-09-19 10:25:29 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: I hope they nominate the biggest anti-abortion/anti-woman/anti-gay/anti​-American asshole they can find.  Another Kavanaugh.  Rip open the national psyche right before the election.


Actually, that's how it may work out.  And listen, the supreme court will matter less if we have the two houses and white house to write and sign progressive laws into place.  We already had the courts shoot down the voting rights act WITH RBG in it.  Now we can rewrite it and apply it to every state and the courts will have to figure out some other reason to shoot it down, but it will take time and in the meantime, it'll make supporession harder.  Smart with gay rights and voting laws, etc.

The game isn't lost.  We lost a valuable piece.  Our queen, if you will.  But other pieces, well placed, can still win the game.
 
2020-09-19 10:25:39 AM  
All of you could have just moved to Kentucky any time in the last 40 years and voted him out, but nahhhh, that's much too difficult. Better to just biatch and moan online about how unfair he is.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
2020-09-19 10:27:51 AM  

freetomato: At least one talking point has been released that I'm seeing.  It is perfectly OK to fill this seat under these circumstances because the Democrats would too, if they could.  The trumpublicans cheat and lie, therefore they assume everyone does.


How Trump plays golf is how he treats life, and now how Republicans view political behavior.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-co​l​umnists/donald-trump-the-serial-golf-c​heat-in-the-white-house
 
2020-09-19 10:30:48 AM  
Pro-impeachment artists translated --> Wahhh! We can't do the hard work of winning elections! We need to pass the buck onto our elected officials, who still haven't gotten *children still in cages* released, to try and get fat orange fark face out of office knowing in advance this will fail but at least it runs out the clock, just like a Republican would do! To win, we have to think and act like Republicans! Except, we should still not win elections! Because Republicans win elections and that we should not do! Because then we'd actually have to do something with that power and what we want is a Republican in office so we can cry like babies about it! <--

Like farking seriously, win the presidency. And win the Senate. Court goes to 11. Puerto Rico becomes a state, if they want, and if they don't want then they should be set free. Cut them lose or get married. Stop playing games with impeachment. Stop playing games with Puerto Rico. Get serious.
 
2020-09-19 10:31:32 AM  

koder: It remains unclear whether Republicans would have the votes to make a new appointment before Nov. 3.

Oh they'll have the votes. The entire election hinges on prematurely declaring Trump the winner. They'll call all The Families in for every Favor.


If they cheat and the supreme court helps, I fully expect that some liberal gun owner will seek a second amendment solution.

The ironic thing is, I always thought the stupidity of the whole "guns to fight tyranny" implied that you didn't have faith in our democracy as it exists.  So people buying guns to fight the government basically had no faith in the democratic process our founders created.

Now THOSE people have subverted the process and created an environment where LIBERALS have lost faith in the democratic institutions we used to trust.  That's how this will go down.  You'll see liberals voting and fighting and organizing and if none of it matters, if they somehow steal the presidency anyway and the courts helps them, there will be bloodshed.  Somebody will break out their sniper rifle and go on a hunting spree.

I hope not.  I hope none of that happens.  But if it does, I hope they start with Moscow Mitch.
 
2020-09-19 10:31:35 AM  

qorkfiend: Farkin_Crazy: Klyukva: Farkin_Crazy: Yes. Theresa Greenfield.

I tweeted at her, and so have others, already this morning that if she doesn't hammer Ernst on her fundraising email that went out 10 minutes after RBG's death was announced, I'd re-evaluate my vote for her.

I don't want a Senator who is going to stand by idly and watch this shiat happen without speaking up.

So you're saying you really would endanger the chance of a Democratic majority in the senate, or do you just hope she believes you would?

I'd leave it up to everyone else to figure that out.

If Greenfield doesn't stand up for what's right, why should I vote for her? I wouldn't feel like she could be considered a solid vote for doing the right thing.

Are...are you kidding?


Would you vote for someone who sits by and doesn't call Ernst out for that email?
 
2020-09-19 10:32:02 AM  

kyuzokai: kyuzokai: JimmyTheHutt: vpb: EvilEgg: Yay, a new Justice picked by a President who got a minority of the vote and confirmed by Senators who Represent the minority of the voters to enshrine opinions antithetical to the majority of the country.

Stupid has won. I don't know what we can do about it.

Expand the size of the SC and pack the court.

None of which is possible now.  There is no path that allows that to happen.
Biden can't win the election now, and McConnell will guarantee that.  He will have someone on that bench by next week.

This is my biggest fear. McConnell pulls every favor, makes every empty promise, all hinging on "if you just fall in one last time, with this SC appointment we can steal the election, and then we will be in a position to never lose power again". And it will probably work, and with that the Republic as we know it will be well and truly over.

postscript... we all might wanna start learning Chinese, since they'll be the global power in a few years (months?) if Mitch gets his SC appointment.


Mitch is way ahead of you. Mrs. McConnell was born in Taiwan and lived there until she was 8.

Interesting fun facts, Elaine Chao's mother was named "Ruth Mulan". As a child only eight years old, Ruth journeyed alone back to her town in China to reclaim the family's gold that had been hidden away on their land.

How many of you have done that? I'm presuming Ruth knew how to kill a Japanese soldier with a knife concealed in a teddy bear.

So now here we are.


The irony makes me want to kill myself.
 
2020-09-19 10:32:05 AM  

chrismurphy: We need to pass the buck onto our elected officials


We need to pass the buck onto our elected officials
 
2020-09-19 10:34:06 AM  
qorkfiend: chrismurphy:
No. Even better. It'll be woman under 50, who has the same belief system as a Michelle Bachmann but doesn't come off as bashiat, and the legal acumen of Scalia. She'll be on the bench for 40 years.

Any Coney Barrett
*Amy


Actually I was thinking of Ted Cruz.
 
2020-09-19 10:37:35 AM  
buttercat:

And yet if McConnell nominates somebody he hasn't broken any rules.

There are plenty of options here for Dems.  This is what I'd do:

If trump nominates somebody, the Dems should just not show up.  Same thing with the 4 liberal SCOTUS justices.  Just stop showing up for work until November.

The sheer spectacle would be political gold for them.  that's a better option than:

-whine
-stack the court(never happen)
-widespread murder of republicans
-or all out revolution

Which seem to be the front runners. Just don't show up (that's how u protest)

That, or start robbing Walmarts I guess. That'll show em.
 
2020-09-19 10:40:41 AM  
And we are about to see exactly why Evangelicals support the republican party, McConnell, and especially Trump. Their wish for the death of Roe v Wade was only matched by their wish for the death of Justice Ginsburg.

Motherf'k this timeline. Not even going to ask what else could happen this year, because I really don't want to know.
 
2020-09-19 10:42:44 AM  

Farkin_Crazy: qorkfiend: Farkin_Crazy: Klyukva: Farkin_Crazy: Yes. Theresa Greenfield.

I tweeted at her, and so have others, already this morning that if she doesn't hammer Ernst on her fundraising email that went out 10 minutes after RBG's death was announced, I'd re-evaluate my vote for her.

I don't want a Senator who is going to stand by idly and watch this shiat happen without speaking up.

So you're saying you really would endanger the chance of a Democratic majority in the senate, or do you just hope she believes you would?

I'd leave it up to everyone else to figure that out.

If Greenfield doesn't stand up for what's right, why should I vote for her? I wouldn't feel like she could be considered a solid vote for doing the right thing.

Are...are you kidding?

Would you vote for someone who sits by and doesn't call Ernst out for that email?


Would I stand by in 2020 while a fascist-enabling Republican is elected to the Senate? No, I farking would not, and you're a real piece of shiat if you would.
 
2020-09-19 10:43:30 AM  

GrizzlyPouch: We should do a bunch of illegal things or change all the rules, Like adding a bunch of new justices.  Or murdering all Republicans!


I'm ok with this.
 
2020-09-19 10:44:26 AM  
I fear that if they seat a SCOTUS it s going to make real violence inevitable.

POC, LGBTQ, etc are not going to go quietly

and once they do away with abortion the court will then get down to their corporate agenda and the trumpers will then see that they voted in their own doom
 
2020-09-19 10:45:07 AM  
"Ernst is a fascist, but Greenfield didn't respond to one thing in the way I wanted her to, so I guess I have no choice but to sit this one out."

Jesus farking Christ. What the fark is wrong with you?
 
2020-09-19 10:47:52 AM  
I am not just going to piss on McConnell's grave, I am going to take a dump, probably two.
 
2020-09-19 10:48:03 AM  

Alphax: danvon: MindStalker: danvon: The only way to prevent this is to find four Republican senators who are capable of being shamed.

You can stop laughing now.

Two are on the record as not supporting a nomination this year. Need to find 2 more. Technically 1 more is enough for a 50/50 vote. I assume the VP would be the tie breaker? Wonder if there is a way to stop that???

I saw Murkowsky say that, who was the other one? As far as I know, the VP would be a tie breaker.

Another thread said Mitt Romney.. and a couple others.  Perhaps even Lindsey Graham.. which sounds like a long shot, but he may be desperate enough to keep his 'job'.


Subtract one for that rat bastard from West Virginia whose name I can't be bothered to look up.
 
2020-09-19 10:48:09 AM  

kindms: real violence inevitable.


wtf has been happening the past 5 months?
 
2020-09-19 10:49:16 AM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: kindms: real violence inevitable.

wtf has been happening the past 5 months?


House party.
 
2020-09-19 10:49:26 AM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: kindms: real violence inevitable.

wtf has been happening the past 5 months?


Property destruction.

Not, uh, maybe the kind of real violence the other poster is referring to.
 
2020-09-19 10:50:18 AM  

qorkfiend: Farkin_Crazy: qorkfiend: Farkin_Crazy: Klyukva: Farkin_Crazy: Yes. Theresa Greenfield.

I tweeted at her, and so have others, already this morning that if she doesn't hammer Ernst on her fundraising email that went out 10 minutes after RBG's death was announced, I'd re-evaluate my vote for her.

I don't want a Senator who is going to stand by idly and watch this shiat happen without speaking up.

So you're saying you really would endanger the chance of a Democratic majority in the senate, or do you just hope she believes you would?

I'd leave it up to everyone else to figure that out.

If Greenfield doesn't stand up for what's right, why should I vote for her? I wouldn't feel like she could be considered a solid vote for doing the right thing.

Are...are you kidding?

Would you vote for someone who sits by and doesn't call Ernst out for that email?

Would I stand by in 2020 while a fascist-enabling Republican is elected to the Senate? No, I farking would not, and you're a real piece of shiat if you would.


Eat shiat.

It's my vote. If TG doesn't stand up for herself, why should I?

And I wouldn't cast a vote for Ernst FYI.
 
2020-09-19 10:50:22 AM  
Don't worry everyone. Check out this poll.

Fark user imageView Full Size


The seat is safe.
 
2020-09-19 10:50:53 AM  
So they push this this thru before nov 3rd? Ted Cruz is confirmed.  The election becomes Florida recount 2000 nightmare on compound V, court declares Trump winner for life, the sky rips open and a giant Robbie Rotten from LazyTown destroys what's left of the planet?
Does that sound possible? Cause I just don't know anymore.
 
2020-09-19 10:51:01 AM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: kindms: real violence inevitable.

wtf has been happening the past 5 months?


kid stuff. people have shown up to be peaceful, they havent been planting bombs and looking to attend softball games. yes there has been some violence but it was an offshoot and not the primary focus for the vast majority of people protesting.
 
2020-09-19 10:51:12 AM  

What_Would_Jimi_Do: kindms: real violence inevitable.

wtf has been happening the past 5 months?


Our president is declaring the election to be invalid if he loses. You know, like dictators do. And now he is stacking the legal body that would stop him with Toadies that may let him just go on being a de facto dictator.
 
2020-09-19 10:51:25 AM  

JerkStore: I'm ok with this.


Pretty sure everyone not highlighted in troll colors on this website is. Let them all get raptured up and leave the planet to the non-idiots, maybe we can fix it in time.
 
2020-09-19 10:52:53 AM  

Murkanen: GrizzlyPouch:

Obama could've easily sat down with Republicans, came up with a list and nominated somebody they'd actually confirm.

He did.

They told him they'd be willing to confirm Merrick Garland because he was still a conservative jurist, if not quite as ignorant and blindly partisan as Scalia, so that's who he nominated.

Then they refused to give Garland a vote.


This was brilliant strategy on the part of McConnell, btw.  They forced Obama to pick a generic center-right white guy with absolutely no dedicated constituency on the left, and then sank the nomination.  If Obama had picked someone who inspired key democratic voters the obstructionism would have been major news, with protests, street theater, social media campaigns, the whole ladida. That in turn would have helped drive turnout for Clinton.  A woman or a member of a minority group (or both) would have been obstructed just as hard, but people would have noticed and some of them would have cared enough to get out and protest, vote, volunteer, donate, etc.  The driving narrative of the 2016 campaign would have been republican obstruction, a far better message than "I'll be like Obama but a bit more centrist."

McConnell may be a festering pustule on the ass of humanity but he knows politics. His handling of the Green New Deal was similarly skillful - he popped the bubble of media interest in under a week.
 
2020-09-19 10:54:09 AM  
Dems, if you win, don't hold back.

Pack the courts. Undo the gerrymandering. Punish the criminals.
 
2020-09-19 10:55:39 AM  

Champion of the Sun: buttercat: We're in new territory here and I just don't think the normal approach is going to help or work. The left has to do something extraordinary or we're toast.

We're using the Republicans' words against them.  Shaming them on their hypocrisy always works.


They don't have shame.
 
2020-09-19 10:57:52 AM  
So it is time for our pool boys to make a sacrifice and go to public toilets near republican offices, remembering to bring a camera.
 
2020-09-19 10:58:42 AM  
Just convince the crazy people that everyone he puts in there are russian plants, and they will be gunned down in sequence
 
2020-09-19 10:59:28 AM  

Klyukva: RyogaM: Linux_Yes: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: So how's that protest vote working out for you?

Dems need to delay just like the repugs did.

They can't, they are the in the minority.  The Repugs could do it in 2012 because they were the majority.


[Fark user image 850x400]

Don't worry. There's always the judicial filibuster. Oh wait no there isn't, lol.


bullshiat, he was going to ram through a SCOTUS nominee no matter what.
 
2020-09-19 11:00:20 AM  

NewportBarGuy: They're going to nominate Merrick Garland?


Merrick Garland was the conservative nominee the Senate Republicans publicly announced they wanted before Obama actually nominated him.
 
2020-09-19 11:00:24 AM  

Klyukva: Don't worry everyone. Check out this poll.

[Fark user image image 750x873]

The seat is safe.


i.ytimg.comView Full Size
 
2020-09-19 11:01:04 AM  

chrismurphy: qorkfiend: chrismurphy:
No. Even better. It'll be woman under 50, who has the same belief system as a Michelle Bachmann but doesn't come off as bashiat, and the legal acumen of Scalia. She'll be on the bench for 40 years.

Any Coney Barrett
*Amy

Actually I was thinking of Ted Cruz.


A sitting senator won't be nominated. That would take away one of their votes. With Romney already against it that's a bridge McConnell would never allow Trump to cross.
 
2020-09-19 11:01:15 AM  
Pernicious Q. Varmint:

Exactly.  And there was nothing stopping Obama from withdrawing Garland and doing just that.

And this is what I'm getting at.  Republicans use political maneuvering that's within the boundaries of the law.

And then Dems either pout, or they call republicans a bunch of names (ists and phobes and deplorables).  Demonize and dehumanize you're opponent if u can't beat them legally.

And republicans are fascists. (See.  More name calling)
 
2020-09-19 11:01:35 AM  

Masakyst: Dems, if you win, don't hold back.

Pack the courts. Undo the gerrymandering. Punish the criminals.


they have to do all of this or the party will shatter. if they won't protect us, no one will. If they are going to hang us out to dry after all this, then there truly is no hope.
 
2020-09-19 11:02:34 AM  

tekmo: NewportBarGuy: They're going to nominate Merrick Garland?

Merrick Garland was the conservative nominee the Senate Republicans publicly announced they wanted before Obama actually nominated him.


Prepare for Roy Moore.
 
2020-09-19 11:02:52 AM  

Klyukva: Don't worry everyone. Check out this poll.

[Fark user image image 750x873]

The seat is safe.


Like the Turtle would ever care about that poll.
 
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