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(Independent)   Why Goodfellas is still the best gangster film ever made, and if you disagree you can go get your farking shine box   (independent.co.uk) divider line
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2020-09-18 5:28:57 PM  
That movie is how Trump learn how to president.
 
2020-09-18 5:31:21 PM  
I liked it better than the Fodgarther.   Good soundtrack, too.
 
2020-09-18 5:33:12 PM  
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wrong.
 
2020-09-18 5:33:48 PM  
Not even the best gangster film released in the fall of 1990

/Miller's Crossing
 
2020-09-18 5:41:49 PM  

SurfaceTension: Not even the best gangster film released in the fall of 1990

/Miller's Crossing


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2020-09-18 6:10:18 PM  

SurfaceTension: Not even the best gangster film released in the fall of 1990

/Miller's Crossing



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I'm talkin' about ethics.
 
2020-09-18 6:11:39 PM  
At least it doesn't insist upon itself.
 
2020-09-18 6:27:05 PM  
The book it's based on, Wiseguy by Nicholas Pileggi is excellent.  Henry Hill was quite a character.  Probably the most detailed view of the mob from the inside that's been written.
 
2020-09-18 6:31:23 PM  
It's been a heck of a few days and early this afternoon someone asked me how it was going. I replied it seemed as if the universe was telling me to "Go home & get your shine box" kind of day. Funny how two unrelated things can hit the same reference.

/Miller's Corssing was great
//I keep Goodfellas on my phone for watching any time
 
2020-09-18 6:32:08 PM  

Jake Havechek: The book it's based on, Wiseguy by Nicholas Pileggi is excellent.  Henry Hill was quite a character.  Probably the most detailed view of the mob from the inside that's been written.


Ever read "The Valachi Papers"?
 
2020-09-18 6:39:38 PM  

fluffy_pope: Jake Havechek: The book it's based on, Wiseguy by Nicholas Pileggi is excellent.  Henry Hill was quite a character.  Probably the most detailed view of the mob from the inside that's been written.

Ever read "The Valachi Papers"?


Is the movie any good?  It's got BRONSON.
 
2020-09-18 6:45:04 PM  

whidbey: fluffy_pope: Jake Havechek: The book it's based on, Wiseguy by Nicholas Pileggi is excellent.  Henry Hill was quite a character.  Probably the most detailed view of the mob from the inside that's been written.

Ever read "The Valachi Papers"?

Is the movie any good?  It's got BRONSON.


it's well-intentioned but dumb and sloppy (Exxon stations in 1940, that kinda thing).
 
2020-09-18 10:29:20 PM  
It doesn't have a digitally de-aged man kicking someone.
 
2020-09-18 10:31:32 PM  

Lambskincoat: That movie is how Trump learn how to president.


Drink.
 
2020-09-18 10:34:16 PM  

jmr61: Lambskincoat: That movie is how Trump learn how to president.

Drink.


It's how you learn to type, too?  Caught sayof?
 
2020-09-18 10:35:41 PM  
I'm not too into mob movies but I love it. Even my wife enjoyed it when I made her watch it.
 
2020-09-18 10:37:54 PM  
"As far back as I can remember," says Liotta," I always wanted to be a gangster."

The movie is completely entertaining but what I really admire about it is that Scorsese makes a promise with that line, that we are going to see why he always wanted to be a gangster, and he delivers on that promise. It's reminiscent of the line in Apocalypse Now about how he wanted a mission and after this one he'd never want another. Lines like that obligate the filmmaker to make good on the expectations they create and only directors at the top of their game can manage to do it.
 
2020-09-18 10:39:47 PM  

SurfaceTension: Not even the best gangster film released in the fall of 1990

/Miller's Crossing


All of this talk --  Goodfellas, Miller's Crossing . . . seriously, what's the rumpus?
 
2020-09-18 10:41:55 PM  
I don't need to.be told why because I already know how awesome that movie is. Soundtrack isn't bad either.
 
2020-09-18 11:06:05 PM  

Birnone: "As far back as I can remember," says Liotta," I always wanted to be a gangster."

The movie is completely entertaining but what I really admire about it is that Scorsese makes a promise with that line, that we are going to see why he always wanted to be a gangster, and he delivers on that promise. It's reminiscent of the line in Apocalypse Now about how he wanted a mission and after this one he'd never want another. Lines like that obligate the filmmaker to make good on the expectations they create and only directors at the top of their game can manage to do it.


That is an excellent observation
 
2020-09-18 11:09:13 PM  

whidbey: I liked it better than the Fodgarther.   Good soundtrack, too.


Scorsese has always been a master at picking the music for his films. Sh*t, just the piano portion of Layla while panning over a Cadillac with two murdered bodies in it remains one of the most powerful movie scenes of all time. That part of the song is so beautiful and Marty somehow weaves it into a series of executions. It's brilliant.
 
2020-09-18 11:09:51 PM  
2 movies that if I see it on tv, I stop and watch no matter where it's at. Goodfellas and Saving Private Ryan
 
2020-09-18 11:11:27 PM  
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2020-09-18 11:12:55 PM  
I'd somehow managed to go through life without seeing it, until just a couple nights ago on a crappy cable channel in a hotel room. Even with missing a bit of the beginning, and all the farks dubbed out, and interrupted by the stupidest commercials for stupid pop culture stuff, it was a damn fine movie.

I wish I'd seen it in the theater, but 1990 was a time when viewing things my ex-wife didn't also want to see was more trouble than it was worth.
 
2020-09-18 11:13:55 PM  
I dunno...that other gangster movie was pretty good too.
 
2020-09-18 11:18:49 PM  
A friend of mine has Batts as her last name, and when I asked if she had seen Goodfellas, she said no.

Which is a bummer..because she can't appreciate things like this:

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2020-09-18 11:19:17 PM  

emonk: I dunno...that other gangster movie was pretty good too.


Casino, and yes it is.
 
2020-09-18 11:21:26 PM  

phaseolus: I'd somehow managed to go through life without seeing it, until just a couple nights ago on a crappy cable channel in a hotel room. Even with missing a bit of the beginning, and all the farks dubbed out, and interrupted by the stupidest commercials for stupid pop culture stuff, it was a damn fine movie.

I wish I'd seen it in the theater, but 1990 was a time when viewing things my ex-wife didn't also want to see was more trouble than it was worth.


My recommendation:

Cook some pasta at home, and watch it while also enjoying a bottle of wine.

It's one of my little traditions:  If I am cooking Italian food at home, Goodfellas or Casino has to be playing on my TV.
 
2020-09-18 11:22:29 PM  

dickfreckle: whidbey: I liked it better than the Fodgarther.   Good soundtrack, too.

Scorsese has always been a master at picking the music for his films. Sh*t, just the piano portion of Layla while panning over a Cadillac with two murdered bodies in it remains one of the most powerful movie scenes of all time. That part of the song is so beautiful and Marty somehow weaves it into a series of executions. It's brilliant.


Not to mention Carbone in the freezer truck.
 
2020-09-18 11:24:23 PM  

The_Sponge: emonk: I dunno...that other gangster movie was pretty good too.

Casino, and yes it is.


Yeah.  The reason I never got married.
 
2020-09-18 11:29:33 PM  
I thought it told a funny story.
 
2020-09-18 11:31:06 PM  
Henry Hill used to live in the Lake Wenatchee area back in the early 2000s.  I pass by it every time I make the 3 1/2 hour drive to visit my parents.  (I also went to a summer camp out there when I was 14.)

By that time, anyone who wanted him dead had already passed away, but it's a fantastic place if you want to hide from the mafia.

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2020-09-18 11:31:25 PM  

sirrerun: I thought it told a funny story.


Funny how?
 
2020-09-18 11:33:20 PM  
Careful Subby, unless you want to end up taking a dirt nap in upstate New York.
 
2020-09-18 11:34:14 PM  

Birnone: "As far back as I can remember," says Liotta," I always wanted to be a gangster."

The movie is completely entertaining but what I really admire about it is that Scorsese makes a promise with that line, that we are going to see why he always wanted to be a gangster, and he delivers on that promise. It's reminiscent of the line in Apocalypse Now about how he wanted a mission and after this one he'd never want another. Lines like that obligate the filmmaker to make good on the expectations they create and only directors at the top of their game can manage to do it.


Yeah, but Liotta didn't say that.  Henry Hill said that.
 
2020-09-18 11:35:26 PM  

SurfaceTension: Not even the best gangster film released in the fall of 1990

/Miller's Crossing


Great movie, but I will respectfully disagree.

And while Albert Finney was fantastic, the movie would have been even better with Trey Wilson as Leo.
 
2020-09-18 11:42:08 PM  
The Goodfellas (Intro) As far as I can remember I always wanted to be a gangster
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2020-09-18 11:43:21 PM  

The_Sponge: sirrerun: I thought it told a funny story.

Funny how?


Like it amused you?
 
2020-09-18 11:43:53 PM  

Mukster: The_Sponge: sirrerun: I thought it told a funny story.

Funny how?

Like it amused you?


Like a clown. 🤡
 
2020-09-18 11:57:36 PM  

The_Sponge: phaseolus: I'd somehow managed to go through life without seeing it, until just a couple nights ago on a crappy cable channel in a hotel room. Even with missing a bit of the beginning, and all the farks dubbed out, and interrupted by the stupidest commercials for stupid pop culture stuff, it was a damn fine movie.

I wish I'd seen it in the theater, but 1990 was a time when viewing things my ex-wife didn't also want to see was more trouble than it was worth.

My recommendation:

Cook some pasta at home, and watch it while also enjoying a bottle of wine.

It's one of my little traditions:  If I am cooking Italian food at home, Goodfellas or Casino has to be playing on my TV.


Just be sure to use a razor to slice the garlic extra thin. They'll liquefy in the pan with just a little oil.

I bought a cheap edition of the movie on DVD, and they split the movie halfway through! It stops after Spider's shot, and picks up with Karen outside the apartment screaming at Henry's lover over the intercom. It completely ruins the flow of the movie! It's kind of long, but not so long that it needs a disc flip! Hell, I saw 2001 squeezed on to one side of a DVD, no problem! I'll need to buy a BluRay at some point, because that cheap-o is unwatchable like that.
 
2020-09-19 12:01:03 AM  
Honestly, I hate 'modern' gangster films. I like the ones that take place in the 20's, 30's and 40's where the soundtrack is jazz, and the men wear hats so cool that if you wore them today you would be a poseur. At minimum, if there isnt a tommy gun with a disc cartridge somewhere in the film, I dont wanna know.

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2020-09-19 12:06:57 AM  

Jake Havechek: The book it's based on, Wiseguy by Nicholas Pileggi is excellent.  Henry Hill was quite a character.  Probably the most detailed view of the mob from the inside that's been written.


I never read that one, but I read a book by Henry Hill's kids, a son and a daughter. They said that he was a real nutcase, and drunk, and abusive, and bragged about being a gangster so much, he was eventually thrown out of the Witness Protection Program.

Which I guess is what I'd expect of a real gangster.
 
2020-09-19 12:09:53 AM  

Fabric_Man: The_Sponge: phaseolus: I'd somehow managed to go through life without seeing it, until just a couple nights ago on a crappy cable channel in a hotel room. Even with missing a bit of the beginning, and all the farks dubbed out, and interrupted by the stupidest commercials for stupid pop culture stuff, it was a damn fine movie.

I wish I'd seen it in the theater, but 1990 was a time when viewing things my ex-wife didn't also want to see was more trouble than it was worth.

My recommendation:

Cook some pasta at home, and watch it while also enjoying a bottle of wine.

It's one of my little traditions:  If I am cooking Italian food at home, Goodfellas or Casino has to be playing on my TV.

Just be sure to use a razor to slice the garlic extra thin. They'll liquefy in the pan with just a little oil.

I bought a cheap edition of the movie on DVD, and they split the movie halfway through! It stops after Spider's shot, and picks up with Karen outside the apartment screaming at Henry's lover over the intercom. It completely ruins the flow of the movie! It's kind of long, but not so long that it needs a disc flip! Hell, I saw 2001 squeezed on to one side of a DVD, no problem! I'll need to buy a BluRay at some point, because that cheap-o is unwatchable like that.


Damn that sucks.

And to be honest, I still haven't prepped the garlic like that, but I want to try it out.

Side note:

A local grocery store used to sell packages of ground meat that were meant for meatloaf....beef, veal, and pork in the same package.  It was ridiculously good when I used it for pasta sauce.
 
2020-09-19 12:16:41 AM  

soupafi: 2 movies that if I see it on tv, I stop and watch no matter where it's at. Goodfellas and Saving Private Ryan


Six years ago, I had to go to a wedding rehearsal, and was a half hour late. My excuse: That damn helicopter.
 
2020-09-19 12:25:54 AM  

The_Sponge: Fabric_Man: The_Sponge: phaseolus: I'd somehow managed to go through life without seeing it, until just a couple nights ago on a crappy cable channel in a hotel room. Even with missing a bit of the beginning, and all the farks dubbed out, and interrupted by the stupidest commercials for stupid pop culture stuff, it was a damn fine movie.

I wish I'd seen it in the theater, but 1990 was a time when viewing things my ex-wife didn't also want to see was more trouble than it was worth.

My recommendation:

Cook some pasta at home, and watch it while also enjoying a bottle of wine.

It's one of my little traditions:  If I am cooking Italian food at home, Goodfellas or Casino has to be playing on my TV.

Just be sure to use a razor to slice the garlic extra thin. They'll liquefy in the pan with just a little oil.

I bought a cheap edition of the movie on DVD, and they split the movie halfway through! It stops after Spider's shot, and picks up with Karen outside the apartment screaming at Henry's lover over the intercom. It completely ruins the flow of the movie! It's kind of long, but not so long that it needs a disc flip! Hell, I saw 2001 squeezed on to one side of a DVD, no problem! I'll need to buy a BluRay at some point, because that cheap-o is unwatchable like that.

Damn that sucks.

And to be honest, I still haven't prepped the garlic like that, but I want to try it out.

Side note:

A local grocery store used to sell packages of ground meat that were meant for meatloaf....beef, veal, and pork in the same package.  It was ridiculously good when I used it for pasta sauce.


You gotta have the pork. That's the flavor.
 
2020-09-19 12:26:33 AM  

cryinoutloud: Jake Havechek: The book it's based on, Wiseguy by Nicholas Pileggi is excellent.  Henry Hill was quite a character.  Probably the most detailed view of the mob from the inside that's been written.

I never read that one, but I read a book by Henry Hill's kids, a son and a daughter. They said that he was a real nutcase, and drunk, and abusive, and bragged about being a gangster so much, he was eventually thrown out of the Witness Protection Program.

Which I guess is what I'd expect of a real gangster.


Just an FYI- not a criticism of any posts in this thread at all- this movie is about Henry Hill.
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A lot of people dont know that. Just letting them know.
 
2020-09-19 12:31:19 AM  

Fabric_Man: The_Sponge: phaseolus: I'd somehow managed to go through life without seeing it, until just a couple nights ago on a crappy cable channel in a hotel room. Even with missing a bit of the beginning, and all the farks dubbed out, and interrupted by the stupidest commercials for stupid pop culture stuff, it was a damn fine movie.

I wish I'd seen it in the theater, but 1990 was a time when viewing things my ex-wife didn't also want to see was more trouble than it was worth.

My recommendation:

Cook some pasta at home, and watch it while also enjoying a bottle of wine.

It's one of my little traditions:  If I am cooking Italian food at home, Goodfellas or Casino has to be playing on my TV.

Just be sure to use a razor to slice the garlic extra thin. They'll liquefy in the pan with just a little oil.

I bought a cheap edition of the movie on DVD, and they split the movie halfway through! It stops after Spider's shot, and picks up with Karen outside the apartment screaming at Henry's lover over the intercom. It completely ruins the flow of the movie! It's kind of long, but not so long that it needs a disc flip! Hell, I saw 2001 squeezed on to one side of a DVD, no problem! I'll need to buy a BluRay at some point, because that cheap-o is unwatchable like that.


I bought a laserdisc player during my senior year of high school and used to throw movie parties. Goodfellas was well attended - and required a halfway disc flip as well.
 
2020-09-19 1:01:16 AM  

The_Sponge: phaseolus: I'd somehow managed to go through life without seeing it, until just a couple nights ago on a crappy cable channel in a hotel room. Even with missing a bit of the beginning, and all the farks dubbed out, and interrupted by the stupidest commercials for stupid pop culture stuff, it was a damn fine movie.

I wish I'd seen it in the theater, but 1990 was a time when viewing things my ex-wife didn't also want to see was more trouble than it was worth.

My recommendation:

Cook some pasta at home, and watch it while also enjoying a bottle of wine.

It's one of my little traditions:  If I am cooking Italian food at home, Goodfellas or Casino has to be playing on my TV.


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2020-09-19 2:28:02 AM  
 Hmm, I thought I had a copy of Goodfellas on one of my hard drives in the closet. I stream everything now so I guess I lost track of it. It's a weekend (during COVID every day is a weekend for me, ugh) so I might just rent it from Google Play or wherever. I've seen it at least 50 times, start to finish, starting as a teen but while maturing noticing so many details. Can put it on mute and recite the script from memory, even the unmemorable lines. It annoyed my ex GF, but she put up with it in the same way I put up with her quirks.
 
2020-09-19 2:42:25 AM  

Bukharin: Honestly, I hate 'modern' gangster films. I like the ones that take place in the 20's, 30's and 40's where the soundtrack is jazz, and the men wear hats so cool that if you wore them today you would be a poseur. At minimum, if there isnt a tommy gun with a disc cartridge somewhere in the film, I dont wanna know.

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Good thing that guy in the photo wasn't in any of the modern ones. ;-)
 
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