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(The Daily Beast)   Is Ryan Murphy really worth a $300 million investment? Netflix is still waiting to find out   (thedailybeast.com) divider line
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2020-09-18 1:59:04 PM  
They've had some hits and misses with original programming. While The Witcher isn't Emmy material, it's damned fun to watch.
 
2020-09-18 1:59:38 PM  
Yes.  Unless gay men and white women with a BMI over 30 stopped watching TV altogether.
 
2020-09-18 2:01:21 PM  
Ryan Murphy's shows are usually good for about 3-5 episodes before they just become too much.  Pose is the only one that's really managed to maintain its quality throughout its run.
 
2020-09-18 2:12:18 PM  
I started Ratchet this morning and it is just not good.

I like The People vs. OJ, and American Horror Story had some good seasons, but he runs out of steam fast on most of what he does.
 
2020-09-18 2:16:25 PM  

Snapper Carr: Ryan Murphy's shows are usually good for about 3-5 episodes before they just become too much.  Pose is the only one that's really managed to maintain its quality throughout its run.



Haven't seen Pose yet. It's been on my queue for a while. But I find that his shows suffer from trying to have every season outdo the other one until it goes off the rails. Nip/Tuck did some interesting things and then it totally cheated fans with the conclusion of the serial killer season and after that it became a parody of itself. AHS had a really great first season about a haunted house, second season was bonkers... like mixing haunted asylum, with demons, mutants, aliens and everything else they could throw at the screen. I thought that being that shizo during that season was all about the setting. An artistic choice that reflected the mad house. Nope. They went bonkers mixing every farking trope in season 3. That's just how they roll... 20 horror movie tropes regurgitated onto a screen per season because "more is better". I didn't bother with the show after.

I've placed Ratched on my queue. Not sure if I'll watch it anytime soon. Maybe I'll wait until season 2 is out before committing.

I'm looking forward to Bly House on netflix. It is the follow up to the Haunting on Hill House (highly recommend). They seem to be doing a serious horror anthology. One story at a time. Hopefully in an attempt to top Hill House they don't decide that more is better. Sometimes more is just more.
 
2020-09-18 2:19:40 PM  
When watching Ryan Murphy productions, you quickly learn that he has a type when it comes to gay men.
 
2020-09-18 2:20:44 PM  

kbronsito: I'm looking forward to Bly House on netflix. It is the follow up to the Haunting on Hill House (highly recommend). They seem to be doing a serious horror anthology. One story at a time. Hopefully in an attempt to top Hill House they don't decide that more is better. Sometimes more is just more.


I was really disappointed with the ending to Hill House.  I felt like it betrayed basically everything that led up to it for the sake of an ending that it hadn't earned.  It was great until the last episode (including one of the best jump scares I've ever seen in a horror film) but in the end it just left me feeling annoyed.

Hopefully Flanagan sticks the landing with Bly House because I've liked everything else he's done..
 
2020-09-18 2:22:43 PM  

kbronsito: Snapper Carr: Ryan Murphy's shows are usually good for about 3-5 episodes before they just become too much.  Pose is the only one that's really managed to maintain its quality throughout its run.


Haven't seen Pose yet. It's been on my queue for a while. But I find that his shows suffer from trying to have every season outdo the other one until it goes off the rails. Nip/Tuck did some interesting things and then it totally cheated fans with the conclusion of the serial killer season and after that it became a parody of itself. AHS had a really great first season about a haunted house, second season was bonkers... like mixing haunted asylum, with demons, mutants, aliens and everything else they could throw at the screen. I thought that being that shizo during that season was all about the setting. An artistic choice that reflected the mad house. Nope. They went bonkers mixing every farking trope in season 3. That's just how they roll... 20 horror movie tropes regurgitated onto a screen per season because "more is better". I didn't bother with the show after.

I've placed Ratched on my queue. Not sure if I'll watch it anytime soon. Maybe I'll wait until season 2 is out before committing.

I'm looking forward to Bly House on netflix. It is the follow up to the Haunting on Hill House (highly recommend). They seem to be doing a serious horror anthology. One story at a time. Hopefully in an attempt to top Hill House they don't decide that more is better. Sometimes more is just more.


PS. Looking forward to "Winned" though. The back story on how Kai Winn because such a farking biatch and her involvement with the Bajoran Birther Movement, which refused to acknowledge that The Sisko was of Bajor.
 
2020-09-18 2:27:24 PM  
I got like four episodes into American Horror Story season 2, the one with the mental asylum. I was extremely interested at first, but with each episode, they just kept injecting weirder, different horror elements seemingly at random, to such a ridiculous extent that I gave up. By the time I quit watching, there was the creepy asylum, a former Nazi mad doctor locking people up unnecessarily and experimenting on them, a masked slasher movie type villain, multiple timelines, ghosts, demonic possession/exorcism, space aliens abducting people, nanobots (?)...they just kept throwing weirder and weirder stuff at you without actually exploring any of ideas they had already brought up. Apparently people think that was the best season, too. Yikes.
 
2020-09-18 2:34:43 PM  
okay I just want netflix to do their own version of 'the boys' with 'Irredeemable'.  At least in that one you just have one horrible super hero the rest are still kind of heroes.
 
2020-09-18 2:51:59 PM  

kryptoknightmare: I got like four episodes into American Horror Story season 2, the one with the mental asylum. I was extremely interested at first, but with each episode, they just kept injecting weirder, different horror elements seemingly at random, to such a ridiculous extent that I gave up. By the time I quit watching, there was the creepy asylum, a former Nazi mad doctor locking people up unnecessarily and experimenting on them, a masked slasher movie type villain, multiple timelines, ghosts, demonic possession/exorcism, space aliens abducting people, nanobots (?)...they just kept throwing weirder and weirder stuff at you without actually exploring any of ideas they had already brought up. Apparently people think that was the best season, too. Yikes.


I mentioned this above. But I let it slide because I gave the writers credit that the randomness was an artistic decision to reflect the bedlam setting. Was I alone in this?

But if you watch season 3, they do the same thing and there's no mad house. So it was just shiat writing.
 
2020-09-18 3:12:54 PM  
I absolutely cannot stand Ryan Murphy shows. Every character is a plasticine script line delivery device. Zero resemblance to anything resembling an actual human being.
 
2020-09-18 4:00:06 PM  
Don't know this guy, but i heard of the show Glee, obviously.

The Cuckoo's nest thing looked lame because Nurse Ratchet was never 'evil' in the source material.   That was the entire point of both the book and the movie.... Just by virtue of her doing the job she thought she was supposed to do, it led to evil results, but its not like she was twisted or vindictive.
 
2020-09-18 4:02:53 PM  
I'm happy to see more of what he does. The most recent season of AHS was amazing, and Politician  is damn fine, if not meaty, watching.
 
2020-09-18 4:12:58 PM  
Dreamland was fun, but the whole "everything would have been fine if we had just confronted racism, sexism, and homophobia all at once in the 50s" was a bit off base.
 
2020-09-18 4:20:18 PM  

CarnySaur: When watching Ryan Murphy productions, you quickly learn that he has a type when it comes to gay men.


And Hitchcock had a thing for petite blonde women. What's your point?
 
2020-09-18 4:25:53 PM  
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They backed the wrong Murphy.

/$300 million would have been a lot of MST3K
//I know he's on RiffTrax now, leave me alone
 
2020-09-18 4:44:47 PM  
Only Ryan Murphy show I liked was Nip/Tuck. And I loved that show, So much that I watched Glee for a few episodes because he produced it, then realized I just did not like it. Watched first season of American Horror Story, but none since. Bring back Nip/Tuck, all will be good.
 
2020-09-18 4:49:31 PM  

T.rex: its not like she was twisted or vindictive.


WTF?
 
2020-09-18 4:54:03 PM  

T.rex: Don't know this guy, but i heard of the show Glee, obviously.

The Cuckoo's nest thing looked lame because Nurse Ratchet was never 'evil' in the source material.   That was the entire point of both the book and the movie.... Just by virtue of her doing the job she thought she was supposed to do, it led to evil results, but its not like she was twisted or vindictive.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nurse_R​a​tched

Legacy
Fletcher won the Academy Award for Best Actress for her portrayal of Ratched in the film. Ratched was named the fifth-greatest villain in film history (and second-greatest villainess, behind only the Wicked Witch of the West of The Wizard of Oz) by the American Film Institute in their series 100 Years... 100 Heroes & Villains.
 
2020-09-18 5:04:39 PM  

kryptoknightmare: I got like four episodes into American Horror Story season 2, the one with the mental asylum. I was extremely interested at first, but with each episode, they just kept injecting weirder, different horror elements seemingly at random, to such a ridiculous extent that I gave up. By the time I quit watching, there was the creepy asylum, a former Nazi mad doctor locking people up unnecessarily and experimenting on them, a masked slasher movie type villain, multiple timelines, ghosts, demonic possession/exorcism, space aliens abducting people, nanobots (?)...they just kept throwing weirder and weirder stuff at you without actually exploring any of ideas they had already brought up. Apparently people think that was the best season, too. Yikes.


The "Coven" season went the same way....it started off very interesting then just went off the rails. The girls powers went from highly specialized to just....whatever. Sometimes they were gods, other times they were helpless.

Super long winded subplots....it's like you had to guess what the point of the show was going to be (I thought the whole point was finding a new supreme but we haven't mentioned it in several episodes... Maybe this Evan Peters supply will become important?)

So much potential but very disappointing
 
2020-09-18 5:06:08 PM  

Snapper Carr: Ryan Murphy's shows are usually good for about 3-5 episodes before they just become too much.  Pose is the only one that's really managed to maintain its quality throughout its run.


I'd argue that both seasons of American Crime Story also manage to maintain their quality.  But otherwise, you're correct.
 
2020-09-18 5:10:26 PM  
Oh, and "Hollywood" is a fun escape. It's not going to take home any awards, but with the hellscape that is our current timeline, it's nice to have a warm and fuzzy story that plays with how history could have been better.  We enjoyed it.
 
2020-09-18 5:14:55 PM  

stoli n coke: CarnySaur: When watching Ryan Murphy productions, you quickly learn that he has a type when it comes to gay men.

And Hitchcock had a thing for petite blonde women. What's your point?


Well it wasn't to start an argument over nothing.
 
2020-09-18 6:02:00 PM  
So, hit or miss is now worth 300 million? I should be worth at least a few million
 
2020-09-18 8:49:49 PM  

MizzouGuy: Only Ryan Murphy show I liked was Nip/Tuck. And I loved that show, So much that I watched Glee for a few episodes because he produced it, then realized I just did not like it. Watched first season of American Horror Story, but none since. Bring back Nip/Tuck, all will be good.


In hindsight, Nip/Tuck should have been cancelled after season 3.

3 wasn't a great season, but 4 and 5 were farking goofy.
 
2020-09-18 10:37:20 PM  
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Didn't even know he was still alive.

 
2020-09-19 1:22:54 PM  

JohnBigBootay: T.rex: Don't know this guy, but i heard of the show Glee, obviously.

The Cuckoo's nest thing looked lame because Nurse Ratchet was never 'evil' in the source material.   That was the entire point of both the book and the movie.... Just by virtue of her doing the job she thought she was supposed to do, it led to evil results, but its not like she was twisted or vindictive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nurse_Ra​tched

Legacy
Fletcher won the Academy Award for Best Actress for her portrayal of Ratched in the film. Ratched was named the fifth-greatest villain in film history (and second-greatest villainess, behind only the Wicked Witch of the West of The Wizard of Oz) by the American Film Institute in their series 100 Years... 100 Heroes & Villains.


She was the antagonist of the story, and could be considered the villain in that sense, but again... none of her actions against McMurphy stemmed from anything other than professional duty.
 
2020-09-19 10:15:29 PM  
Ryan Murphy isn't worth tree-fiddy. He's the end result you get when you give someone with a hellaciously addictive personality access to all the cocaine and gay porn they want. He's incapable of writing compellent content because he doesn't remember what it's like to be human.
 
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